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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Paul Johnson, deputy editor of the Guardian,


and Tim Collins, the former Tory MP and managing director


The Guardian, which pictures a laughing Prime Minister


and her husband, Philip, on the steps of Number Ten.


The paper says her speech was focused on the "middle ground".


The i uses a phrase from that speech, with the Prime Minister


saying, "Let's build a fairer Britain."


A photo from the other side of the famous Downing Street door


dominates the Telegraph's front page.


The headline is "May brings in the Brexiteers."


The Times calls tonight's government appointments,


"May's clean break," after the Prime Minister sacked


Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson features in Express alongside


Brexit Secretary David Davis, calling the pair, "May's team


The Mirror pictures Boris stuck on that infamous zipwire,


with the simple headline, "Dear world...sorry."


The FT looks at the possible impact of Philip Hammond taking over


at the Treasury, describing him as, "Low-key".


The departing Cameron family feature on the Metro,


alongside details of new government appointments to what it calls,


Let's start with you, Paul Dahmer because we have the front of the


Guardian here. Very nice photo of Theresa May with Philip. In the


corner it says, a speech to make Ed Miliband choke on his teeth. To come


back to the photograph, it is terrific, it captures the moment she


told her husband Boris Johnson would be Foreign Secretary! LAUGHTER.


They laughed in Paris and Brussels and New York et cetera. To come back


to the speech, it was interesting, powerful, direct, talked about


disadvantage and discrimination. She said, when we make the calls we


won't think of the powerful bite of you. When we pass laws we won't


think of the mighty bite you -- but. When it comes to taxes we will


prioritise not the wealthy but you -- but. Powerful speech. Slight


echoes, some commentators say it could have been delivered by Ed


Miliband, but there are some echoes, Tim would be expert of this than the


-- more the expert of this than me, but when Margaret Thatcher is quoted


St Francis of Assisi. When there is discord, may we bring harmony. With


the chaos in Labour at the moment, alarm bells will be ringing. I think


they will perpetually be ringing in Labour for about 12 months. I think


we need to come back to the ring. What you do and what you say are


different things. Actions speak stronger than words. Just above the


main story, Cabinet takes a tilt to the right. You feel the Guardian has


got it wrong. I fear the Guardian aren't the right people to


understand what goes on in the Tory party and I wouldn't read the Daily


Telegraph to understand what is going on in the Labour Party. After


20 years in politics, ten years analysing it, this is by eight


country mile the cleverest, most successful reshuffle I have seen any


Prime Minister make in a 30 year period. She has created a complete


free hand to do what she said she wanted to do on the steps of Downing


Street. She said she wanted to deliver Grexit. She has put in


charge people who will do that -- Brexit. And in doing that, she has


given herself a complete FreeHand. The right-wing of the Tory party,


the Leave side, they will fall give her anything. Their view is she will


deliver Brexit and that will allow her to do the other things on


tackling social injustice, rebalancing the economy, because the


other part of the reshuffle was the first dismissal of a chancellor


since Harold Macmillan in the 1950s, the night of the Long knives, to


fire your chancellor, indicating she is serious when she says she wants a


fundamentally different, interventionist, redistributionist


economic strategy -- long knives. Was it important to have such an


execution? I think it was made clear when she talked in her launch speech


earlier this week, and on Downing Street today, about wanting to be


not on the side of the privileged but working people, when she talks


about intervening to protect British businesses from being overtaken by


overseas businesses, she means it. It is fundamentally different from


George Osborne's approach. The way she has taken charge of this


government. She has put in Philip Hammond. He wants to be the


chancellor, not Prime Minister. He won challenge Theresa May on major


economic questions. There is one slight flaw but I bow to your


knowledge of the intricacies of the Tory party -- won't. There is a


history of chancellors wanting to become Prime Minister. Philip


Hammond and his rather low... His rather low-key approach. Who knows


if he is a threat? Andrea Leadsom... I know him very well. He will be a


great chancellor and he is not a threat at all. The Daily Express


front page and you have to Mac Brexiteers, Boris Johnson and David


Davis. Who will lead negotiations? Some rumours will be Boris Johnson


won't be allowed to go to Brussels. You can't have a department in


charge of Brexit without making it very clear the Foreign Office is not


in charge of that. David Davis, he has given a great deal of thought to


it, it binds Boris Johnson, after leading a campaign that got 70.5


million votes, but he will go out and she rocked the world, he will go


to America, China and India, David Davis will do the job of the Brexit.


According to the Foreign Secretary, this is a politician who has


insulted Barack Obama, Clinton, the Turks, the Germans, Africans, the


Kurds and Liverpool. He has had to make apologies about all of these


things. It is a curious piece of diplomacy. You could read it in a


different way, the new drink of the Foreign Office. Negotiations will be


carried out by David Davis in terms of that and so forth -- neutering.


And secondly, with Liam Fox, another one brought back from the wilderness


to lead the trade deals that people like him say we will sign with China


and America. We are rather ratty back of the queue with America. With


a lot of things from the Remain came before June 23 that had been


retracted... What is significant is, don't underestimate just how bright


Boris Johnson is. He is the first Foreign Secretary who is fluent in


multiple languages. He was mayor of London. Very successfully went round


and did trade deals for London in various parts of the world. I think


he will surprise people how good he will be. He is also in charge of


MI6. Yes, absolutely. The point is, as the Mayor of London he was in


charge of the Met Police. You are saying he won't be in charge of


Brussels. There is a European foreign council meeting, so he will


be in Brussels. It will be clear what the agenda is. If it will cover


Brexit it will make sense for David Davis to be there. (CROSSTALK). It


isn't clear. It depends on the agenda. If it is primarily on Brexit


it will be David Davis. If it is Ukraine or the Middle East, it will


be Boris. Look at the initial reactions, people are completely


aghast. Consistency from Boris Johnson... Ten days ago he set


Andrea Leadsom was the only person with the determination to become the


next Prime Minister. What Paul can't cope with is that the Labour Party


is tearing itself to shreds and cannot even unite over the rules of


the contest. The Tory party is clearly coming together very


powerfully and I think Theresa May has had a very good reshuffle


because the Tory party is more united than it has been in half a


century. Let me look at the second page in The Express. It has the big


appointments. There is only one woman. There is the Prime Minister!


A LAUGHTER. This is very... (CROSSTALK). This is


very, very curious, because the briefings last night leading to


front-page headlines this morning was she would rebalance... Tony


Blair had eight women in his cabinet. David Cameron had seven at


one time. We have had six announcements today and one person,


Amber Rudd. We do have tomorrow. There will be a lot of


announcements. The top jobs... One of the top jobs. I know that we have


all been through the Blair era, the Brown era, the camera nearer, this


year is a Prime Minister who so far has kept her word on everything --


Cameron era. She said she would have a team to deliver Brexit, she has


kept her word on appointing a chancellor who can dramatically


change economic policy, she has restructured the business department


in a way that will make it much easier to have an intervention


strategy, if she says she will have more women, by the time she has


finished composing her cabinet she will have many more women.


Where are these women going to go? There's health, education,


transport, important departments were several will be led by women I


suspect. The front of the Mirror, fairly self-explanatory. Echoes what


Paul has been saying. You are the Daily Mirror guy, now, Paul. It is


this idea of Boris Johnson being it wired around the world. It was the


Olympics, a huge success. -- zip wired. But he is a good salesman,


isn't he? He did very well at selling the London Olympics. If he


has to sell Brexit Britain, is he a good man to do that? Let's see how


the other nations, the EU nations, the Americans and Chinese react. So


far his diplomatic tours have ended slightly disastrously. Think about


how he had to cut short his trip to Palestine and scuttle out to


Kurdistan over some trouble about an unpaid bar bill. Let's hope this


doesn't happen. He will have to show some character in this role, more


serious. Exactly. People said he couldn't be London mayor but he was


extremely successful for eight years and one thing that was decided in


the referendum was we needed to organise our politics around what is


best for us not what other countries think is best. He might bring a bit


of fun to the Cabinet table because they are all quite serious people,


Teresa made. Philip Hammond is not a rip tickler, it has to be said,


Boris will bring some fun. Theresa May has already proved she has a


wonderful sense of humour by doing this Cabinet! The FT, it's quite


interesting, it does call them Philip Hammond, Tim's friend, a


fiscal hawk, which is quite interesting. She also talks about...


They come back to this David Miliband point, saying her speech in


Downing Street contained things that bore an uncanny resemblance to those


championed by Ed Miliband. The difference between George Osborne


and Philip Hammond are really marked. That was humiliating for


Osborne, longtime bookies favourite and others favour to be the next


Prime Minister. He had to come in by the backdoor and he left by the


backdoor. There's a really plaintive tweet tonight saying I will leave it


to others to judge whether I left the economy in a better shape than I


inherited it, and extraordinary exit from somebody so prominent for so


long. I hope was ticked up on Twitter tonight. Lots of people


talking about that. Talking about Hammond, the fiscal hawk, how does


that square with Theresa May's plan for austerity? The important thing


about Philip is he is a loyalist, he will do what he is told, he won't be


like Gordon Brown or George Osborne, trying to be a Deputy Prime


Minister. The Treasury will have a lot less power, that's important,


it's a different style of government, the Treasury will be


back in its box and the kind of Treasury we had 30 or 40 years ago.


He will be good on the detail and the numbers. And is a very


successful shadow chief secretary he was responsible for lots of economic


thinking prior to the election in 2010 for the Tory party. Teresa May


has committed to abandoning the deficit target from George Osborne


by 2020, Philip will deliver. He won't be in charge of these new


international trade deals? That will be Liam Fox. Extraordinary power to


Liam Fox. And extraordinary opportunity because it's important


to recognise there are countries around the world that have expressed


interest in bilateral trade agreements with the UK, China,


India, Australia, the US, the UAE, many interested in doing that.


Bilateral trade agreements can be done within a year or two, South


Korea, Iceland and Norway have done that. We could be in a position in a


few years where we have free trade agreements with 2.5 billion people,


which puts into context the question of our relationship with the EU.


You're saying we will negotiate with the EU but back load the


negotiations so when we get to the final sign of we can say you're not


as important as you thought. One of the problems with being in the EU is


you can't negotiate your own trade deals, we don't get that back until


we exit but we can put the negotiations in place so that when


we exit we can do the deals with the other countries and turnaround to


the EU, if they want to be difficult, which I hope and believe


they won't be, turn around and say unlike the rest of you we do most of


our trade already with the rest of the world, not with the rest of


Europe, and we have done these deals, don't assume all the


negotiating power is with you. Tim can see the way to the sunny


uplands, pie in the sky perhaps, but the Bank of England, the IMF, the


World Bank, the IMF, most economists, let's see what happens.


It's a very rosy picture. The key thing for Liam Fox and the Brexit


team is they won't talk to us until article he is activated. Exactly.


That seems to have been missed --. Is there still disagreement on


whether Article 50 needs to be activated? -- Article 50. Tim has


gone through the gears very quickly, he thinks we can do exit in about


6.5 seconds. We can't do that, Philip Hammond send yesterday we


could take six years. -- said. He was talking about ratification of


other EU member states on the final terms of Brexit. That's precisely


the point. Every free trade agreement we want to do with every


country outside the EU, as long as we are inside it, need the agreement


from 27 other countries. That's why out of our ten largest export


markets outside the EU only inside the EU do we have access to two free


trade agreements, we can get through the other a very quickly once we are


have been saying, this is a very have been saying, this is a very


different direction for the government domesticly at least.


Absolutely. She is somebody who is very clearly not intending just to


be a legacy Prime Minister or a caretaker Prime Minister or someone


who is just there to carry on on autopilot what she inherited from


David Cameron, she is serious about changing the direction of policy on


a whole range of issues and that's why the reshuffle is so exciting


because she is creating the space within her party and beyond her


party to do that. Some of the new departments she will set up tomorrow


and the appointments will indicate she is serious, this isn't just


rhetoric what she talked about on the doorstep, she will do some very


radically different things. The Times comes to something we haven't


talked about before, there's one third of the day we haven't talked


about, David Cameron's Commons exit, he was hugely amusing, he set out


his list of achievements, cutting the deficit, more jobs, better


schools, protecting the NHS, but he didn't tackle one thing. We've left


the EU by mistake as far as he's concerned and this is a mess. I will


come to Brexit because the Metro has it on the front but to finish on


Theresa May, a vicar's daughter, a former banker, not a PR spin like


David Cameron and the others, she's a serious thinker. -- spinner. You


can be reassured the old Bullingdon ways are out of the door? That was


one target for her, when she kept on about the wealthy and privileged,


when she turns it on her head and talked about the discriminated and


disadvantaged, it's a clear sign and that's a breakup. Then enter Boris


Johnson and we will see what happens with the others tomorrow. We talk


about... Paul mentioned what Mrs Thatcher said when she first became


Prime Minister, I don't think Tony Blair or David Cameron or Gordon


Brown did what she did today, talk about the experience of a black or


working class person, somebody who is from one of the most deprived


areas in the country. That's a really different approach and if she


is serious, and I think she is, about tackling those issues, that


could mean different policies from what we have ever seen. You could


say tough on the causes of Brexit. Let's move on to the Metro, the


family picture, it's all about legacy for David Cameron today. I


will give you the first shot at this, Paul, what will the legacy be?


What will the legacy be? He came in with the "Big Society" vision, we


haven't heard much from "Big Society". He came in with an agenda


which was encompassing and quite green, then they transferred through


the journey from a green consciousness into green rubbish as


it were. There was a journey here. We saw that other side of him in the


Commons today where he was generous. He was witty and amusing. Clearly a


plastic lid lucrative time for him on the after-dinner speaking circuit


should he want -- fantastically. The things that he saw as his legacy,


and he outlined seven or eight of them, we talked about stronger


defence and schools and NHS and so forth, seemed to me to be dwarfed


by... We're in a mess now. George Osborne hasn't left a note for


Philip Hammond saying the money is all spent but he may have is well


have. The Telegraph picks up on that quote, I was the future once, once


said of Tony Blair. How will people look back on David Cameron? It's


very poignant because when he said that to Tony Blair, that was the end


of 2005 and its remarkable his entire political career from the


moment he became Leader of the Opposition to exiting as Prime


Minister is in ten years. Careers in politics in Britain these days are


much faster. On the "Big Society", he was very proud with what he did


on national citizenship. On the greens staff, the amount of energy


generated by renewables has tripled, not insignificant achievement is. He


inherited a fundamentally broken economy -- achievements. The


challenge is a lot of people felt left behind and to end on a note


that I agree with my friend, that was a big factor in the Leave vote


that so many people felt they needed to kick the elite because the elite


didn't listen to them. I want to go to the cartoon here. That's not the


pound, says this character looking at the graph. That is Boris


Johnson's career. Plunged downwards. It has soared tonight. Very amusing


but one paragraph on the front of the Telegraph which is hugely


significant, economy slows as the Leave effect takes hold. And so


begins. Underneath some of the positive notes we have heard from


the FTSE and the pound recovering... Quantitative easing could start


tomorrow, a cut in interest rates. All your viewers do what I have done


since June the 24th, get up, scan the sky and see whether the


Luftwaffe have started bombing, I don't think it has yet. All this


alarmism. We will be much better off. How could you have anyone in


government trying to sell the strength of the UK around the world


who had said it would be a calamity? The reality is it won't be, we will


get through and be stronger as a result. We will leave it there. More


to come tomorrow, more appointments and we will talk about it then. Jim


and Paul, thank you for your company. That's it for the Papers.


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