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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Benedicte Paviot from France 24 and the editor

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Tomorrow's front pages starting with...

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The Times says followers of the radical preacher

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Anjem Choudary are spreading hatred and Islamist doctrines freely

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across the internet despite his conviction.

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Nick Skelton is pictured on the Telegraph

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Its main story focuses on the Help To Buy ISA.

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It says the government's top up cannot be used for

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The Mail says Theresa May has ordered a victory

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parade 'fit for heroes' to welcome home Britain's Olympic team.

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The FT reports that Royal Bank of Scotland will charge

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some large corporate customers for holding their cash.

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The Express reports on moves in the City of London

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to prepare for Britain's exit from the EU.

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And the Guardian looks at the effect on women seeking

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abortions after services run by Marie Stopes were suddenly halted

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Let's begin with the story of the heroes coming home to a heroes'

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welcome on the front page of the Mail. Interesting to see that the

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new boss of the UK, Theresa May, is interrupting her Swiss walking

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holiday and apparently according to the Daily Mail, they seem to know

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that she ordered a victory parade fit for heroes to welcome home

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Britain's Olympic team. They certainly are extraordinary. What

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we've been witnessing I gather on BBC One and BBC Two, the ice fog

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women's final. I feel like I need a manual now -- ice hockey. What are

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the British team on? Belief is extraordinary. To watch that

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sacrifice over four years we haven't seen and then to watch these

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results. They are all egging each other on but if you haven't done the

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training then it won't happen. I have to say before I moved to Kevin,

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with your French heritage, what do the French make of it trailing in

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the wake? Trailing in the wake definitely, nine golds, seventh or

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eighth I think. Extraordinary. The French cycling team, we know what

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they think, they think the British team to disappear for a cycle they

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say. What is interesting is the lottery funding. Clearly the British

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teams know that they must do well at the Olympics so they focus on the

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Olympics. But we know from London 2012, ancient history now, that the

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French were very disappointed, they were world champions and they were

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astonished, they accused the British of using special warmers for their

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muscles and all kinds of things. We are not giving away any secrets

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here! I am British and French so I can give some of them. Talking about

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the parade, I as a northerner and pleased it is in Manchester I have

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to say. I thought Dame Tessa Jau got it spot on. I don't want to

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politicise it but was the government slow on this? It seems incredible

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there was any doubt there would be some kind of a parade, I would think

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there is a matter of course with this, given how successful Team GB

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has been, that there wouldn't be an opportunity for the country to come

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together and for ordinary members of the public to come out and see them

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parading through the streets. Obviously it happened in London,

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after the 2008 Beijing Olympics as well, I would have thought this has

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been organised well in advance but it looks like it has been an

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afterthought and they would have to step up to the plate at the last

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minute. It is a nice touch it isn't in London. You think it is right and

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proper to be outside London? It is very easy for these things to become

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London centric and people assume it has to be the UK capital so it is

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good to take it further north and that allows people from elsewhere in

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the country to share in it. There will also be an event in London so

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it is a good idea. Manchester isn't quite before midnight confirmed but

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it is what the Daily Mail are saying. And other news channel is

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confirming that. We will come back to Rio. Let's have a look at the

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other headlines before we do that. Starting with this story in the

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Times, is it any great surprise with Anjem Choudary out of the way there

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are still acolytes putting videos on the web? The fact of the matter is

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the one that has been charged and convicted is Anjem Choudary. What

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this article in the Times talks about is the fact that the Internet

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is failing to take down his acolytes, the people that he has

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convinced. I think the fact of the matter is what this underlines is

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the fact YouTube really is a fantastic, as we know, platform, and

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that this really needs policing, that's the word that is appropriate.

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Because the Internet has just become this extraordinary platform for all

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kinds of things. But it does mean that there needs to be a real

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policy, whether it's from the UK government, the French government,

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there needs to be a consistent policy and therefore discussions

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with YouTube and Twitter and social media, but we know that when things

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are taken down they often reappear. This is very important because what

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we have seen and what the intelligence services in France and

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Britain and Germany and Switzerland and elsewhere are telling us clearly

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is that it is no longer in mosques that people are being radicalised,

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it's in their bedrooms via the Internet that contracts are being

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made. We think the Nice attack... Another person died today so the

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death toll in Nice is now 86 dead among the many hundreds of

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injured... Is that the two people we think who were responsible for the

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murder of the catholic priest up near Rouen were two people that met

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via social media, who had never met before. This really needs to be

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addressed or else it makes a mockery of other security measures that we

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are taking. There's a lot of frustration about Twitter in

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particular not pulling down things that quite clearly are inflammatory.

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Exactly. There's an argument when you could say that technology is

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moving so quickly that as quickly as YouTube take these things down,

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others can put them back up again and how do they keep on top of it?

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It's quite a resource to pay for that kind of thing. You mentioned

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Twitter, there was a thing this week about people saying any footage of

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the Olympics that wasn't authorised was being pulled down by Twitter

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instantly. It can be done. Because of corporate violations and there

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was money to be made. They are saying things like Twitter trials

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and abuse. Death threats, rape threats. They are much slower to

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act. This is another example of the Internet, a great resource and

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platform, but how it can be used and abused by people with evil intent.

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Yet it needs a crackdown but how do you police it? I don't know, you can

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try but it is almost like trying to hold back the tide, you know?

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Talking about difficulty in policing, this takes us rather

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neatly to a decision in Germany to ban the Muslim veil. A partial ban.

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This is pretty divisive because lots of people are saying, hang on, you

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are ordering people to bear their flesh when maybe they don't want to,

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but there are other considerations, especially in fly France. One has to

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be careful because people tend, for example I have seen on Twitter in

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the UK to have... And they I'm titled to have very British

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reactions to a British context. That they are entitled to. But then they

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apply it to France and Germany -- they I'm titled to. In France there

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is a law against the veil and it's a different context -- they are

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entitled to. In Germany I understand, unlike France, it is a

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secular state, very much for bidding wearing of the kneecap, the burqa,

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in public spaces. -- for bidding the kneecap. In Germany it is freedom of

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religion and trickier to implement. Apparently this isn't overly

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divorced from the fact there are big elections in Germany next year.

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What's interesting is the interior minister, who is half French and

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half German, the Maiziere, who has talked about this and is proposing

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this, it is about a partial ban on the face veil in schools and

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universities. It is clear on the back of the attacks in Germany there

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is a certain backlash in Germany towards Muslim refugees coming from

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Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria. What the German government of Angela

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Merkel are being accused of is pandering to those fears instead of

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saying, as Angola Merkel said the other day, this isn't related to the

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influx of refugees. You mention Angela Merkel coming under lots of

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political pressure, her poll ratings are on the slide, she was very

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popular, obviously there is an anxiety in Germany now, there's more

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of these random, lone wolf attacks. She has been partially blamed or

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wholly blamed by many people on the right in particular in Germany for

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opening the doors to refugees from Syria. This I think should be seen

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in that context. It is a way of saying we get it, we are not

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completely pandering to them. This is a way of being tough on Islamism.

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It is a gesture and it is not something we would ever see

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introduced in this country. I don't think it would be implemented but it

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is just talked about. It must be underlined that Germany is home to 4

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million Muslims, as the paper points out, 5% of its population. France

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the highest, around 6 million Muslims. Let's move on to the

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Telegraph. Kevin, what about this story about the betrayal of help to

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buy scheme savers. This is a terrible story and this is a

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Telegraph Mac exclusive. George Osborne in what turned out to be his

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last budget unveiled the help to buy ISA, which was the way the

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government would top up people's savings to get a deposit for a new

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home, and which, as we know in London, first-time buyers are

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finding it impossible to come up with the money for a deposit. It was

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widely mel, welcomed. It was a decent return, for every ?200 saved

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the government would add 50, it's lots of money up to ?15,000. In the

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small print it turns out it can't be used for a deposit. The money is

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only released once the sale is completed. The thinking is that you

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can use it for the first few months' mortgage payments or something like

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that. What is the point? The argument is, what is the point? If

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you can't get a deposit in the first place you will never complete on a

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sale so you can't access the money. The point is you would need the 25%

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on top of your savings to afford the deposit. Unless you are fortunate

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enough to have rich parents, the bank of mum and dad to help you out.

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This certainly wasn't how it was sold at the time by George Osborne,

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who conveniently has left the stage now and it seems he has left a mess

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behind him. This is embarrassing for Theresa May because one of the first

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things she said when she arrived in number ten, a quality. Opportunity.

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That is why the word betrayal is used by the Telegraph -- equality.

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More than half a million people have taken on this Help To Buy Scheme

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ISA, given the chance of getting on the ladder but now it has been taken

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from under them. Moving on. The bottom of the Guardian, a story

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about the children in Aleppo, we don't need reminding after the

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pictures this week of the five-year-old boy who was dragged

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out of a building that had been bombed. Apparently he didn't cry, I

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was reading today, he has been reunited with his parents, which

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hasn't been published everywhere. It seems it's only when the children

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are on the front pages of the newspapers that we take any notice.

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It does seem that way, but it seems when the Guardian does an excellent

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article like this on the front page, that is also what real journalism is

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about. Emma Graham Harrison writes a really compelling story. It is

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continued on page 15. It describes this orphanage that is actually two

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floors below in a basement. It is an extraordinary couple who are called

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Azamar and his wife, his name isn't there a lass. But there are 50

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children who are being looked after in this orphanage, which apparently

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means outstanding guys. It talks about the subterranean Haven. It is

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a haven for those children. Emma Graham Harrison talks about how if

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we think Omran had it bad, the little child we saw bloodied and so

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shocked that he couldn't even and didn't even cry, these are orphans

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who have either lost both of their parents and they range in age from

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two to 14, all one of their parents, their mother or father has died, and

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the other has had a nervous breakdown or can't cope or has been

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separated from them. These orphans are being educated. They play. They

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used to be taken outside but it is now too dangerous with the Russian

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airstrikes and the Syrian government bombings. Let's finish on a happier

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note and look at the picture on the Daily Express. Nick Skelton, so many

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good stories, you can't do them all justice, but at 58, with replacement

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hip. A broken neck. Extraordinary. We've got a meeting at 16, the

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youngest member of the team taking bronze, now the oldest member taking

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gold. The oldest or over 100 years apparently. Since 1908 -- for over.

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You want to know the oldest? He was called John Copley and he won a

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silver medal in art. Art? Art was an Olympic discipline up until 1948 and

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Jo his engraving was called Polo Players. The oldest Olympian was a

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Swiss man who won gold that year for watercolours. What I love is this

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hero... He was 73. I love the fact that Nick Skelton... Sorry, but he

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had a broken neck, he's got an artificial hip and he was riding a

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horse that was predestined to win this called Big Star. I love the

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humility of the man who says he is almost speechless, which seems to be

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rare for him, and he says then that he did really well. He's just

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talking about his horse, Big Star. He doesn't even talk about his

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experience or wisdom and boy did it pay off. Bravo. We are out of time.

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That's it for the Papers tonight before you go these front pages have

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