05/10/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

With me are Paul Johnson, Deputy editor of the Guardian

and Tim Collins, the former Conservative MP and current

managing director of Bell Pottinger Public Affairs.

Tomorrow's front pages starting with...

The Telegraph looks at Theresa May's speech at the Conservative Party

conference, which the paper says was largely aimed at winning

over wavering Labour supporters, particularly

The Daily Express says she invoked Margaret Thatcher as she promised to

reunite a country where everybody had a chance to succeed.

The Times says the speech was strongly interventionist and put

some of the UK's biggest businesses and notice to expect aggressive

actions against some of their practices.

The Guardian says she will use the Brexit vote as a mandate to break

decisively with David Cameron's brand of conservatism.

The Daily Mail says the speech was one of the most radical delivered by

a Conservative leader in a decade. And it talks about some of those

companies that she will be going after.

The Daily Mirror ignores the whole speech, sticking with a story about

bullying and the tragic death of a young man.

Let's go straight in. The Daily Telegraph. By far the most striking

line in her speech, it's time to remember the good government can do.

Not a phrase one can see others using. It went down well with the

Conservative faithful. She was distancing herself from a lot of

things which have been conservative totems of faith. They were lapping

her to the rafters. Used to write her to the rafters. Used to write

speeches at one point further previous leaders. -- you used to.

She would not have liked it if I had put that in. She may have struck it

out, even thrown it on the fire. What is interesting about all of

this, I think I know which book she took with her and her walk. Because

one of the themes that comes through all of the report in the papers

tomorrow is this theme of citizenship and this idea

repatriating some. This idea of something being more important than

individualism and selfishness. About bringing the whole country together.

That theme of citizenship is the central theme of the biography of

Clement Attlee which was published this year, which is all about this

man who was incredibly patriotic. He got Britain a deterrent. But he was

someone who built the NHS and brought people together. Normally

you would think Clement Attlee would be a hero for the Labour Party,

somebody the Tory party would not like. He is one of the people they

often quote. What has happened with Jeremy Corbyn is that the Labour

Party have vacated that ground patridge 's, which is the core of

the values of many of the traditional Labour voters, and that

she can move on and say I get that patriotism bit, and I get the

holding business to account bit, so she could clean up electorally. It

is all over for the left? He has come straight from Birmingham, his

pulse is still racing. CHUCKLES

He is so excited. The heady aroma of politics and power. This is a speech

of two halves. It could have been written in a combination of Ed

Miliband and the Daily Mail lead writer. On the one hand you have the

extraordinary thing about advocation of workers' rights over, sort of, we

will pursue the tax avoidance. And if you look at the Daily Mail, we

are coming after you. Looking at dysfunctional markets. A

house-building bill. All of that was straight up the root of Ed Miliband.

But there was this hard Brexit, grammar schools, human rights

lawyers bit, well, you are on our list. Foreign workers, you and Amber

Rudd's list. Foreign students, you are probably on the list, as well.

-- you are on. Camerons and Blairite and maybe Guardian writers don't get

it. That category of policies Paul has set out is absolutely what a

whole chunk of people, several millions of people who in the past

voted Leaves, who are up for grabs, voted Leaves, who are up for grabs,

they believed both parts of that. They believe I'm being tough on

immigration, tough and Brexit, but they believe in the NHS and workers'

rights. -- voted Leave. She voted on behalf of the people who will decide

what happens in the future. So she isn't talking to liberals. She is

talking to small seed conservatives who are in Ukip, or who have

traditionally been in labour. Because Clement Attlee was quite a

conservative person. Many people who haven't voted Conservative before,

and wouldn't have dreamt of it Margaret Thatcher or David Cameron

is fascinating about to May is that is fascinating about to May is that

at the moment she is at the peak of her political potency. --

fascinating thing about Theresa May. She is popular. That won't last.

What she do with that power? Not what Margaret Thatcher did, I'm

going to tell you why you have got to be nice, she says, on the

contrary, I will tell business what you have got to do your country,

which is more. We don't have to go back to Clement Attlee. John Major

had the age of consent policies. Cameron had his common ground. Now

we have the new centre ground. No politician declares themselves and

I'm an extremist, this is where I am coming from, do they? Have you heard

of Jeremy Corbyn? CHUCKLES

You are being defensive now. I'm not defensive about Jeremy Corbyn. Let's

go to the front of your paper. Is it your kind of paper's line tomorrow

morning, OK, we will take her at her word, but we will look at this in

six months and say, did she mean what she said, or is it rhetoric? I

think it is that. There are some things that were attractive in the

speech. She must have been struck by the lily livered and the Sudbury

made accusations. It was noticeable in the speech, she thanked Cameron.

Two sentences later she said we see all around us division and

unfairness. That was a bit of an atomic missile. A little unfair. The

sentences in between were pretty important. Nobody claims that David

Cameron had managed to solve all of the nation's problems. She

congratulated him on changing the party. He had done some important

things for the party. But she said circumstances have changed again.

One of the sub themes at the conference was, what is her mandate?

She wasn't elected. Cameron won the election. She will take the Brexit

referendum as mandate for change. It is paradox given she was against.

That seems to be the way she is going. This is somebody speaking as

if she has won the swathes of the public. She was on the right side of

the referendum. Anyway... Do you break by this idea that seems to be

at the heart of this speech, this kind of... This year zero.

Everything that went before in politics no longer applies because

of the referendum result? In other words you can get rid of the things

the current government did over the last six years you don't want to be

associated with thinking the public were not impressed with that. You

can say all of the elites were out of touch. We are coming in, it is a

fresh political situation as a result of that one vote. That is

certainly what she is going to try. certainly what she is going to try.

I think it'll be a challenge. She is right to be able to point out that

more people voted in the referendum than at any other general election

in our history after 1992. There was a bigger mandate for Leave. I was on

the side that won the referendum, she was on the losing side. But she,

like others, has accepted that the public have spoken and she is

determined to deliver Brexit. But how much of this domestic agenda can

she possibly deliver given Brexit will be so all-consuming? We have to

be careful. There were not many camera

-- there were not many Cameron and Osborne supporters at the

conference. This must entreat you, what the consequences of the

downfall of the fate Sheikh might be. He has been working for 30

years. He's had a similar process. He goes in with a disguise. He who

is people into situations whereby they are either culpable in a sense

which isn't criminal but culpable in the way that the campus of Essex was

lured into this. -- he lures people. There have been suggestions that it

went too far and that it was entrapment. This was a very

extraordinary case with Tulisa. He posed as an agent. He talked about

drugs. She said she was tricked into getting a supplier. There have been

other cases of Victoria Beckham, an alleged kidnapping, where the trial

fell apart. A dirty terror bomb, the trial fell apart. This is

potentially very serious. Does it reopen some of the questions which

were raised during the Leveson Inquiry, which seems a long time

ago? He used to work for the News of the World and it no longer exists.

It might. One of the things that never and slightly obscured was that

that was predominantly about phone tapping. -- that Leveson obscured.

The perception was that was all, all of the sin was in the News of the

World, no other tabloid was doing it, and it turned out Mirror group

were right up to their necks with it and probably did more of it. We

don't know that. But I take your point. And this one I think it is

important again to note that what we have to have is an independent

assessment of what is going on. One thing which is interesting is to

what extent were the Met actually working with the so-called fake

Sheikh. Was he a useful source? It's possible that they might have cut

him some slack, maybe turned a blind eye because he was useful to them on

certain investigations. Mark Lewis, who did many of the hacking cases,

is acting on the half of 19 people who are aggrieved by this and think

they have a good case for reopening. As more than that, very substantial

damages. We may not have heard the last of the fake Sheikh. Let's look

at some other stories. Teenage girls more likely to get drunk than boys.

Thought we knew this. It was the ladette culture, but the OECD says

it so it must be true. They are saying it is almost uniquely a UK

problem. It is more of a problem amongst young girls than young boys.

However it is important to put it into perspective. They are saying

the figures have arrived even though drinking is going down nationally. I

think the number in that age category is dropping. That's good.

Some of the messages are getting through. Better than they are with

the adults. Yes. Amongst those drinking too much among young girls,

it is more likely to be British women who are better educated than

those who are not. That's interesting. It belies problem

drinking with more than 14 units per week. It is difficult or identify

that. Do you think you drink more less 14 units per week? Less, sadly,

but probably because I am here too often. At the very end of the

Telegraph. Perhaps my favourite story of the night. It is about

toads. Apparently they are in trouble. They've been dropping by

nearly 70% over the last 30 years. Apparently it is due to the loss of

ponds as well as pesticides. Not sure what the answer is. But we must

do something to help. I used to have a toad called Gloria outside my flat

until a friend of mine tried on her. Rather tragic. The common toad no

more. What ever happened to pond life? Pleasure as always. Thank you

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