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the first round. Wright 13-0. A bit of a rest for the ponies as well as

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for me. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the the papers will be With me are Vikki Orvice,

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Sports Writer at the Sun, and Katie Martin from the Financial

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Times. At least the first editions. The

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Times says British officials believe Russia is waging cyber attacks and

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unconventional warfare against the UK. The Daily Mail leads with the

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chaos facing people planning to travel abroad this Christmas after

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trade unions announced strikes over the festive period. The Independent

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describes a prison system in crisis after prisoners staged a riot at

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Birmingham prison which is still going on tonight. The Telegraph has

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a story of two former soldiers prosecuted for the murder of an IRA

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commander in Belfast 44 years ago. The Express says the Home Office has

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been accused of trying to cover-up the number of illegal migrants

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attempting to get into Britain. The Guardian leads with an accusation by

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Clinton and flood amid Putin -- by Hillary Clinton that President Putin

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was involved in the US election. The Daily Mirror leads on the story that

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Camelot has been fined ?3 million for paying out on an potentially

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bogus ticket. Let's begin with The Times. Russia threat to Britain, so

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it's not just the United States that has something to fear. That's the

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fascinating thing. We've been getting used to the idea that Russia

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has been involved in some way directly or indirectly with the US

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elections. I don't think it's occurred to that many people this

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could spread further and they could be involved in politics on our

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shores. Yes, The Times is saying there is propaganda and

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unconventional warfare, fake news has become a huge topic in the

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states. I know that organisations with a "alt-right" bent are trying

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to get themselves established in Europe and it's something the UK

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needs to look closely at. Theresa May is going to chair a national

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security session to discuss potential Russian interference.

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Clearly this has been taken to the highest level. Interesting nobody is

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yet suggesting some how he might have tried to influence the outcome

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of the European referendum result. What do you make of this? A lot of

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this is speculative, may be partly because it's the kind of subject we

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don't necessarily know who is pulling what strings. It is

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fascinating in terms of a new Cold War except it is computers and

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cyberspace rather than checkpoint Charlie! There is a lovely quote

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from President Obama speaking yesterday, telling Russia don't do

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this stuff because we can do this to you. Of course, it's complicated by

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the fact we've got Donald Trump as President-elect who claims to be

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Putin's new best friend! Maybe it will all stop. Maybe. One of the

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things that struck me, as he was saying that that quote from Obama,

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the rhetoric around international relations has become incredibly

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petty. This isn't a playground argument, this is national security.

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You will remember that photograph a lot of papers ran back in September

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of the two men standing staring at each other on smiling at the G20.

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President Obama said tonight on the news conference we ran that he had

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basically said at that meeting to Vladimir Putin, cut it out or there

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will be consequences. He says he appears to have done. Maybe Theresa

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May needs to try something similar next time she bumps into Vladimir

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Putin! I'd like to be a fly on the wall! Staying with President Putin

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and The Guardian also with a photo of Michelle Obama who is apparently

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going to tell an Oprah about life in the White House and what she brings

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about her husband 's achievements, Hillary Clinton has accused Vladimir

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Putin of this because she doesn't like him very much. It is apparently

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"Personal beef" against because of criticism levelled against him over

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national elections in Russia. This is what she was saying to donors in

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Manhattan, apparently. It resonates with the idea that international

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relations appeared to have become incredibly petty. Clearly, she feels

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she has been singled out and victimised here. Certainly, the way

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that all of this, the e-mail leaks from the Democratic party and over

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the course of the election... The media had all the tools at their

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disposal to run the same stories about the Republicans but they

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didn't. There is all kinds of analysis that needs to go into how

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this all happened. Certainly Hillary Clinton, she's a pretty serious

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person, she's making direct allegations has. Is there a risk of

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her in doing this? That she looks like a sore loser? She does. At the

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bottom of this story it says Obama is waiting for a final report into

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Russian hacking attacks. He says they will publish it at a time and

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place of their own choosing. You would assume he will publish it in

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the next month. Unless he does something really clever and

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publishes it on Vladimir Putin's Facebook page which proves he can do

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to them what they did to him! The point is serious. Actually, he's on

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the way out and in a sense this could be the blustering of the

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school yard again. But actually, I can call you out but I can't do very

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much. Yes, but by the CIA and FBI are on the same page now. A few days

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ago there was some disagreement. The FBI wouldn't endorse what the CIA

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said about Russia being responsible. Exactly. Now they say they agree. To

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the extent they might feel they will get sidelined under Trump, he seems

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to like to do national security and briefings his own way... I guess

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it's in their interests to work on this through Christmas and get this

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done before The Donald is in the hot seat. Order with the day before.

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Let's move on to the Financial Times weekend. You've got a story on the

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front here. Let's start with the one at the bottom which is fantastic

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quirky story about this drone that the US Navy was using but the

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Chinese seem to have scooped up and run away with. Which again,

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diplomatic relations at the moment when you've got Trump ringing

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Taiwan... It's utterly bizarre because the indication is it was

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doing some kind of Marine biology, not military at all. But obviously

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America is saying we want it back! Not even clear who's got it.

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Unidentified Chinese fisher man? Bully we want our ball back! It

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probably is a ball. Again, it plays into this idea, and obviously this

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isn't Russia but he's being prodded before the new guy arrives. The new

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guy hasn't got off to the best fitting with China. We just

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mentioned the phone call he took from Taiwan. You can brush it off

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and say it was a ten minute chat, the President just wanted to be nice

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and say congratulations, where is the harm. There's a lot of harm

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here! China takes its one China policy pretty seriously. Either this

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is a blunder from Trump or a sign of how relations are going to be from

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now on, but, things like this, China snaffling drones from the sea, these

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things don't happen by accident. It is likely this was a well

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choreographed decision from the top. This is China we are talking about.

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The early flushes of the relationship between China and

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Donald Trump do not look fantastic. Interesting that Obama was saying at

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his news conference that China does the same stuff he accuses Russia

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forgiving but he says they do it for business. They try to manipulate

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cyber data for business benefits rather than political ones. Some

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interesting questions will be asked of the new administration. Let's

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move onto your story, this is interesting in the light of the

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threat that UK banks could lose the right trade in your raise once we

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are out of the European Union. This is a different take on the future of

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the city. A lot of people were saying foreign banks have a huge

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presence in the UK and in the event of leaving the European Union, a lot

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of them might feel to be in the EU. A lot of this was dismissed as

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Project fear. In real life, these banks, in this case Japanese banks,

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they really need these practical things to be in place. There was a

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meeting at the Treasury between lots of officials from Japanese banks

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with some Treasury officials and it was a frank exchange of views.

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LAUGHTER I love that phrase! What were they saying to the Treasury

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officials? It's all going to be great, don't worry about it.

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Obviously they weren't being that glib. What the Japanese banks were

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saying is we need to know we can get passporting. Basically we can have

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the right to trade on behalf of our clients, do business on behalf of

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our clients in the European Union and the UK. We are kind of in London

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because it's part of the European Union. They need to get some solid

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guidance on what is going to happen to these passporting writes,

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otherwise they are going to start planning to leave by mid-2017 which

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is pretty soon. It's very soon, are you worried? Or do you feel this is

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part of the lobbying... If you are trying to plan and you are a

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business, you tend to want to know how it is going to work you. And is

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it better to relocate to Frankfurt or or wherever. Some government

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ministers think some of these worries are exaggerated. Yes, for

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example a good number of thousand of people who were employed by Japanese

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banks in London, it's difficult for me to imagine they will all

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disappear overnight. It's not just about Japan, this is almost a test

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case. If the rules aren't good enough Japanese banks, are they good

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enough German, Italian banks? Say what you like about bankers, but

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ranks provide a lot of money into this country. There comes a point at

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which your cutting your nose off to spite your face. Talking about where

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people might be going, are either of you planning to travel away over

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Christmas? Plans to go and lie on a beach? I've just been away. When you

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see the front of The Daily Mail? We've spoken about the Cold War and

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Russia. It's like papers from 30 years ago! I do like the quite "The

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grinches who stole Christmas" is a furious MPs. It's not just the cabin

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crew, BA cabin crew. At least BA look as if they've tried to pick

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Christmas Day and Boxing Day. The big problem looks like it'll be the

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baggage handlers who are going to start on the 23rd on the 24th. If

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you remember those scenes a few years ago of huge queues. A lot of

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people even at regional airports, a lot of people now check in online,

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even if they don't check in when they arrive, so the interaction is

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not as much as it once was. My colleague here, the business

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correspondence was saying he heard that at Stansted Ryanair had said if

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the baggage handlers aren't there and people aren't that then they

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will simply make it hand luggage only. There is a nice quote here,

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one industry source has advised passengers to pack Christmas

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presents, valuables and a change of clothes in their hand luggage. If

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you remember a few years ago there was a guy who tested out a coat to

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go on one of the budget airlines. He had pockets everywhere. So he didn't

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have to pay his ?45 extra. It could catch on! We've got time for a

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couple more quick little stories. The Daily Telegraph, could there be

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a threat to your Christmas bird this year? If the turkey is still running

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around on the farm somewhere before it faces its fate. It's in its final

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days. Turkeys can't catch a break at this time of year. In addition to

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the poor turkeys that are going to be gracing our Christmas tables,

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there has been an outbreak of bird flu on a Lincolnshire farm which has

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tested positive for a strain of the disease. The poor turkeys, if they

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aren't about to end up on dinner tables then they've got the lurgy.

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Experts will say you can't get it as a human but there is always that

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fear it will put people off buying it in the first place. It's

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Christmas Day, if you're going to get a turkey you're going to get a

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turkey in one way or another. Interesting, it was on the continent

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and there was a warning affecting a lot of French farmers and inevitably

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it still spread as these things have a chance to do. And finally as they

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used to say on the news. You spotted this story so you should tell us

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about it. The government has launched a nationwide competition to

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host the 2023 European capital of culture, even though Britain is

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leaving the EU. The Culture Secretary has made the argument that

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the United Kingdom is leaving the EU but we aren't leaving Europe.

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Apparently it's the UK's turn to play host alongside Hungary because

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it's Hull next year. We have the Hull City of Culture bus down here

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outside Broadcasting House and an enthusiastic team of supporters

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talking about the great things that will be happening in Hull next year.

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It's a bit unfortunate timing, this! Britain's eligibility to participate

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in the scheme will be decided as part of the Brexit negotiations.

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This is part of our trade-off. Do you think Theresa should give up

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culture to keep British residents able to give in the EU or is the

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City of Culture more important? Somewhere someone has got a

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whiteboard with banking, your revision, capital of culture on the

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other! You've got to get your bargaining chips where you can!

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Check the whole City of Culture website, a lot will be happening

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there. And who knows, possibly a British City of Culture in 2023.

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Thank you both so much. Don't forget all the front pages

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are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review

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of the papers. It's all there for you, seven days

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a week at bbc.co.uk/papers, and you can see us there too,

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with each night's edition of The Papers being posted

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on the page shortly Thank you Vikki Orvice

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and Katie Martin.

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