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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
With me are barrister and broadcaster Sophia Cannon | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
and political commentator, Lance Price. | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
The FT leads with Donald Trump's first press conference | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
as President-elect in which he criticised the intelligence | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
agencies and the media for spreading what he called fake news. | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
The President-elect also features on the cover of the Metro | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
after he denied claims Russia has compromising information on him. | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
The Times leads with the accusations by Donald Trump that spy chiefs | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
acted like Nazis by leaking reports about him. | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
The Daily Express cites new research claiming arthritis pain can be | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
relieved by 45 minutes of exercise a week. | :00:56. | :01:04. | |
The Telegraph leads with a clash between the head of the NHS | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
and Number ten over hospital funding as the number of A patients | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
The Sun follows the latest trial of Rolf Harris as he faces accusations | :01:10. | :01:20. | |
of sexual assault from seven new victims. Where else can we start but | :01:21. | :01:32. | |
with the tramp? -- the Trump. He gave his first press conference for | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
six months, the first since he won the election and a lot of it focused | :01:36. | :01:42. | |
on allegations that he is in bed with the Russians. Literally. I | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
didn't think I would be spending my time reviewing the depth and the | :01:48. | :01:57. | |
discussed of the scatological references of a president elect of | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
the United States. This is, dare I use the word, unprecedented. His | :02:04. | :02:10. | |
first election he is in the mire, he is in the dirt and yet again I | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
cannot discuss with my children what is happening. We don't need to go | :02:14. | :02:21. | |
too deeply into the allegations. Essentially, a lot of information | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
has come out concerning possible ties between Donald Trump and Russia | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
and the suggestion is that the Russians have stuff on Mr Trump that | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
colours his view of Moscow, perhaps suggesting for explaining his | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
favourable view, some might say, of Vladimir Putin. It is even worse | :02:46. | :02:52. | |
than that. The central allegation is that the Russians have stopped on | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
him that could make an subject to blackmail and therefore subject to | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
the influence, even though he is president of the United States and | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
that is an extraordinary allegation. That he could be under the thumb of | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
the Russians because of activities he is alleged to have participated | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
in. He says all of that is untrue. It really was the most extraordinary | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
press conference. We have got used to saying we cannot believe he said | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
that, we cannot believe he did this, we can't believe that has happened. | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
We will have an awful lot of this over the next four years, but that | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
was so much in the press conference, lashing at the media and that is a | :03:33. | :03:40. | |
spy agencies. That is the sort of thing we have come to expect from | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
Donald Trump, but to accuse the FBI and the CIA of Nazi style tactics, | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
which is effectively what he said at this press conference, he has got to | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
work with these guys. That is the front page of the Times. You are | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
acting like Nazis, Trump tells spy chiefs. He expresses anger at lurid | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
document click. It is an ex-MI6 agent who drew up certain claims in | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
this dossier. We have got to be clear for our viewers that this was | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
not put together by the FBI or CIA, this is allegations and information | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
that would lead by a private detective, effectively, in the pay | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
of the Democratic party, or a big Democratic party donor and this | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
detective agency is run by an ex-MI6 agent and he has got all this | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
information concerning allegations relating to Mr Trump and Moscow. In | :04:36. | :04:43. | |
the case of nominative determinism, it is Christopher Steen have to | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
thank for this. He was deep undercover and had worked with the | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
assassination of Alexander Litvinenko and he had an idea that | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
there was something going on, a relationship between Trump and Putin | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
way before we had any idea that he was even thinking of standing for | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
the presidency. What he did, it seems to be that he did a | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
reconnaissance of this situation at the time and has put this together. | :05:15. | :05:23. | |
In one memo dated June 2016 it claims that the Kremlin has been | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
cultivating Trump for at least five years. It is something of a | :05:27. | :05:35. | |
dystopian spy novel. When we hear about spies of old and Kim Sotheby, | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
sorry, Kim Philby, these stories, they must be literally true. Donald | :05:42. | :05:49. | |
Trump completely denies them all. Having said that, it is not just | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
some sort of story, not just some freelance guy put this together, it | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
was presented to the intelligence agencies and they looked at it and | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
they examined it and they had to make an assessment and determine | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
whether to go forward with it. They saw enough in it that was credible | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
that they believe was consistent with other information they had and | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
the BBC is reporting there is more than one source, to put it on the | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
desk of President Obama and to put it to Donald Trump himself. They | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
have looked at it and they think there is nothing there. It is not | :06:24. | :06:32. | |
sufficient with that to ensure that the outgoing president should be | :06:33. | :06:34. | |
aware that under the incoming president should be told of the | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
allegations. One seems now that the FBI and CIA have got to look into | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
all of this. This man will be the commander-in-chief, privy to | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
intelligence briefings every couple of days or so. His finger on the | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
bottom of the nuclear arsenal. We have to see this for what it is, if | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
he has been cultivated for five years and the level of fear that | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
must be rippling now through the Republican party itself, but they | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
have been outplayed by Putin in the game of chess that they always | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
thought they had won to this level, that he has actually got his own man | :07:19. | :07:25. | |
in the White House. It will be there for four years. The other important | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
point is this has an impact on American public opinion. Their | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
willingness to rely on what the CIA and FBI say in future because you | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
already have a lot of Democrats who think the FBI handed the election to | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
trump the bringing of the e-mail stuff in the last couple of weeks. | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
You now have the guy he won turning on the FBI and CIA turning on them. | :07:48. | :07:56. | |
You can say it is just the FBI and CIA, the court did last time round. | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
The way in which he is undermining all the institutions of American | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
democracy that he approve of, is a very dangerous precedent. The fear | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
is, from my point of view, for the first time in history we have got | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
the cyber world, the world of espionage contrasted so easily with | :08:17. | :08:24. | |
this open source journalism, social media, all happening at the same | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
time. We cannot even checked our facts. How can we do this? What | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
really annoyed him in the press conference, we can go to the front | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
page of the Telegraph actually, trump defined as MI6 officer fears | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
Moscow retribution, what really annoyed him was CNN. CNN put | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
together their own report on this dossier and the report, I | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
understand, was partly put together by Carl Bernstein no less, of | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
Watergate fame, but does feed put the whole unredacted thing out there | :08:59. | :09:10. | |
on the internet and when Trump was asked a question by CNN, Trump went | :09:11. | :09:17. | |
completely berserk. He conflated CNN carefully, judiciously going through | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
this dossier and taking out what it felt would the right elements and | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
getting elements from its own sources as well, as I say partly | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
written by Carl Bernstein, so old, legitimate media some might argue | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
and conflating that with Buzz feed chucking absolutely everything out | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
there with no filter whatsoever. Donald Trump talking about the good | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
news, he made it clear that he believed that CNN was a fake news | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
organisation because it got involved in this, yet he has profited from | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
the news over the last year through the whole campaign. As a former | :09:57. | :10:03. | |
communications director at yourself, how would you have varied, the you | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
think, in this completely new, incredibly difficult media world? I | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
look at it and I think back to the days when I worked for Tony Blair | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
and Alistair Campbell in Downing Street and we had our own war | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
against the media, even though the media was more benign toward Tony | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
Blair than it is toward Donald Trump in America and it occurred to me, we | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
would have loved to undermine the media in the wake Donald Trump has | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
succeeded in undermining it. Our objective was to turn and when it | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
was a bad story and said that was just the media, you can trust them. | :10:42. | :10:51. | |
That is what he is trying to do. Before I worked there and was a | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
journalist and I was very conscious of the distinction between the two | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
and it was a very important job that the media had fully power to | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
account. It is one of the checks and balances in every democracy. You and | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
your colleagues understood, even Alistair Campbell, understood the | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
importance of the media in a democracy. Of course, but we were | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
doing a different job. We were promoting the interests of the | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
person in power and so you take off your journalist had and put on a | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
different hat. We were undermining an institution which I hold very | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
dear. You would have loved to have twitter. Whether we would have had | :11:29. | :11:37. | |
that... Whether we would have used it in the wake Donald Trump does, | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
they don't think so. What is interesting is that the whole debate | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
about Russia and antics in bedrooms and whatever has completely | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
deflected from the substance, the real substance that many people say | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
should have been discussed and that is his interests, his own business | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
interests and conflict of interest that might exist as a result of him | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
being the CEO of a great multinational company and being | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
president of the United States. All these pictures of Trump today, it is | :12:11. | :12:17. | |
the right... It is the biggest distraction to what is really going | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
on. It is the fact that a president, he is not quickly have the normal | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
checks and balances of his team, he has not released his business | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
interests, so we can fact check what the conflict are, we can only guess. | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
These issues are side issues to what we really need to do, which is find | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
out who this man is, what is he doing and what will he do in the | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
future? If, even before he has started, he is kicking the legs out, | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
burning down what we have fought so hard for... It occurred to me in one | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
of my worst moments, there be Donald Trump wanted all this stuff out | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
there because it gives them an opportunity to talk about something | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
else. The public, frankly, when it comes to sexual peccadilloes, they | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
have heard it all and signal from Mr Trump and factored it in. They voted | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
for him anyway. A possible conflict of interest could be more | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
problematic for him. Let's move on. We have a couple of minutes left. | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
Simon Stevens, head of the NHS in England, front page of the | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
Telegraph, he is in a bit of a battle with number ten. He is in a | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
real battle. He is a very well respected civil servant. I worked | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
with them when I was in at number ten, he was working for the Health | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
Secretary, Alan Milburn, but the Tories loved him as well. People | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
live as -- listened to Simon Stephens because he is a serious guy | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
and he has gone out on a limb in effectively saying that Theresa May | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
has not been honest in terms of the work of money going into the NHS and | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
that she is stretching the truth, in effect, to claim that the NHS has | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
been given money more than they asked for. It is clear we have a | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
serious crisis in the NHS. Even given the fact that we have had a | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
very mild winter so far. What would it be like if we had a harsh winter? | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
There is colder weather on the way. We went through a period when a lot | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
of money was going into the NHS, it really was a lot of money going into | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
the NHS and we didn't have this winter crisis but they are back. I | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
can see Theresa May shelving who will rid me of this troublesome man? | :14:45. | :14:51. | |
Like Thomas Becket saying if we have problems with our major services, | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
they beat somebody else is in the way. It is not our fault. It is the | :14:57. | :14:59. | |
way it is managed, but the funding. It is the same austerity issues that | :15:00. | :15:07. | |
have been rising since 2010. Theresa May is suggesting some hospitals are | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
not being managed well enough. That is partly why A departments are in | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
crisis. One of the reasons Simon Stephens reacted the way he did was | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
at number ten was briefing as if they were getting ready to blame him | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
rather than the lack of funding. Rather than deal with the issue, | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
rather than deal with the issue you blame someone else. That is | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
definitely not something he would have done. Our style at all. Press | :15:32. | :15:45. | |
regulation. Page two of the times. Here we go. 140,000 views have been | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
given and press recognition. The suggestion is newspaper groups | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
should be heavily fined and pay the legal costs of any court action if | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
they did not sign up to an accredited, what the press | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
regulation -- regulator that has been put forward. Section 40 is a | :16:04. | :16:10. | |
new way to ensure that there is access to justice for the smaller | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
guy, the little man who has his name or her name brought out into the | :16:14. | :16:21. | |
press in a way they can never seek redress. They don't have the hundred | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
and ?40,000 and this is the whole idea, that we must see it for what | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
it is. It is not telling the press what to do, it is holding their feet | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
to the flame. Newspapers have fought an effective campaign against it. We | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
don't know what these 140,000 people think, but the implication is a lot | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
of them disagree with that. On the face of it, we don't know what the | :16:46. | :16:53. | |
views are of the majority of these people, but one suspects that, given | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
the fact that if you will take the Daily Mail with the times to court | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
you need deep pockets, then the idea that they will have to pay the legal | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
fees suggests that he may be able to get some redress. When The Papers, | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
the simple view is we have to pay the costs win or lose, that a of | :17:13. | :17:19. | |
people's sense of natural justice. I understand the argument, but given | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
The Papers and easy way to attack the proposals. Many thanks. That's | :17:25. | :17:32. | |
it for The Papers tonight. You can see the front pages of all of them | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
online on the BBC News website. It is therefore you seven days a week. | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
If you missed the programme on an evening you can watch it later on I | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
player. Thanks to Sofia and lands a game and to you for watching. | :17:49. | :18:00. |