21/03/2017 The Papers


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enjoys great success plenty more here on hello and welcome you to


look ahead at what the papers will bring us. Welcome to both of you. A


look at those front pages first of all. Starting with the match which


leads on the decision to ban electronic devices on flights to the


UK from some Middle Eastern countries. The i talks about Martin


McGuinness as the killer who turn to peace. The Daily Telegraph talks


about fears of a new terror plot. In the times, a flight ban on laptops


after new bomb fears. In the Daily Express, there is a story about a


breakthrough on Alzheimer's. Let's begin with the i. Let's talk about


the killer who turned to peace. Absolutely. I do not think there has


been some quite so divisive as Martin McGuinness. You can see


clearly on the front page can at one point or he is described as an IRA


commander. Then the architect of the Good Friday Agreement. It is someone


who has had to phases of his life. Juxtaposed there we have how the


victims families have reacted to it today with a line here is saying,


with his death, the truth is buried. I think we can see he is a hugely


divisive character. I am sure there will be a huge mixture of opinions


going on for the next few days. It has been a complicate its story to


tell. I liked what your correspondent summed up earlier


today. A legacy of contradictions was the expression. You know, it is


understandable, given on the one hand the background as a provisional


IRA terrorist, and the reaction of the families. If you have lost a


family member or more than one family member, would you ever


forgive Martin McGuinness and the IRA? I very much doubt it. On the


other hand, some people have. You know, we have also seen today Colin


Parry, who lost his 12-year-old son tragically in Warrington. He met


Martin McGuinness. Several times. Then, of course, you hear from the


politicians, who while pointing out this black past on Martin


McGuinness, some who were involved very closely, who I know were


involved in the famous agreement, the Easter agreement, say without


Martin McGuinness there would not be the peace there is today. It will be


up to the historians I suppose in the future to get to the bottom of


it. The idea of without him the peace not been possible is, to an


extent, due to what other members of the IRA thought of him. Without him,


they would not probably have followed suit, we are told.


Absolutely. He is a leading light. That is probably at great personal


risk to himself that he pursued the Good Friday Agreement, so when the


papers were signed and he led on that issue. I think that he is


someone who, historians will look back on him and have different


opinions on it and judge. What we can probably safely say is he took a


huge personal risk and that has to be commended in some way. Just from


looking at the papers as well, people have chosen to follow this in


various different ways. The i paper has a picture of him on the front


whereas other papers have chosen to show the procession, the Coffin, the


flag. The newspaper editors today there is probably a bit of decision


on how we will do this, how will put this man on the front of our papers.


The big question is, what happened a long Martin McGuinness's journey


from provisional IRA commander to senior politician, Deputy First


Minister of Ireland? What was the catalyst for change? Was it as Lord


Tebbit says, he was a coward and saw what was coming down the road and


thought, hey, I am a man of peace, as Lord Tebbit put it, rather


cynically. But understandably, as I say. Or, was it something better


than that? Indeed, what happened to Ian Paisley? A different journey


which ended up with the Chuckle Brothers. I think you could say


perhaps there was a strategy there and it was to push things to a


constitutional agreement. He was successful in doing that. We have to


say his last act was actually to bring down the assembly. We are


looking forward now to next week and to see how the power-sharing


arrangement will be brought back together. Might it be that his


legacy, actually, will be to put greater pressure on the current


Ulster politicians to reach some sort of agreement again? I wondered


if you are hearing anything along those lines at Westminster? It


crystallised things today. There will be expediency and speed about


it. Very much getting on with it. The Secretary of State for Northern


Ireland has been in talks over the last few days, trying to hone in on


the process. Do you think it has been, certainly in my lifetime, a


lot longer than yours, the most extraordinary thing that has


happened politically in my lifetime? The Queen shaking hands with Martin


McGuinness. Certainly that. You have followed events over over the years


quite closely. You talked about the Chuckle Brothers, the coming


together of two extremes politically. Before you had the


David Trimble, John Hume combination. It did not quite get


there. People forget that there was a previous agreements, of course, in


the 1970s, that crumbled because of the opposition from somebody called


Paisley. And indeed the IRA, provisional IRA. This could be a


fresh start. These are two ladies who could be working together in the


future. We have not had that situation before. As we continued


talking about him, let's go to the Daily Telegraph rampage. We were


talking about different pictures. Here is an example of one where they


have shown a picture of his coffin being carried through the streets of


Londonderry but also the headline, taking more of this line on the


victim 's secrets. Those, David, who are highly critical of him, one of


the points he was making was he knew a good deal more than he has ever


told us. He did. How many other people did? Having said that, an


interesting point. In 2007, it is alleged that Martin McGuinness was


not prosecuted for his alleged role in the 1972 bombing because of


political pressure. Where that political pressure was coming from


within the police and where was the pressure on the police coming from,


one wonders? The fragility of that agreement in Northern Ireland is


very evident today. Just a final word at Westminster. Sinn Fein


representatives have never taken their seats to Westminster. In terms


of representation there, working at Westminster, you never see them in


the flesh. That is true. You hear from the DUP a lot. They are


extremely vocal on the floor of the House of Commons. We have been


thrust into a different world. From the Westminster bubble to go back


over to Stormont today, it has been interesting. Let's move on to the


other big story of the evening. Take us to the front page of the times.


Again, what was the catalyst here? What is the catalyst for the


security, later security clamp-down? Was it fears of an active terror


plot, as some of the newspapers are suggesting today? Or, as the Times


is suggesting, is it a more general concern involving Al-Qaeda in


Lebanon, not in Lebanon, in Yemen, being desperate to bring down a


plane. Your travel experts, there aren't many of them. We found two


this evening. You found two. The legendary Simon Calder was battle by


it. A bomb is a bomb, whether it is in the hold or the hand luggage, it


would seem to me. I have come back in the past few days from the States


for .my wife, when she opened her case at home, discovers a letter


from the US Department saying that, lucky woman that she is, her case


had been taken apart in Miami airport and three packs, rather


beautifully I have to say, probably better than the original. That is


the level of some of the security in the States. The other point is that


people have to have confidence in their being a good reason behind


this because it will clearly inconvenienced people. Absolutely.


It'll be a ban on your tablets. Some of your larger mobile phones, on


games. Gaming devices. DVD players. Those are from a lesser point of


view, the kind of items you want to keep your family occupied on a


really long flight. It will be a huge inconvenience, also for


business travellers as well. Not being able to use your laptop. I am


sure you do trust the security. The UK is on a severe terror threat


anyway. You can understand why these things do come in. They'll be very


hard to work with this, I think. I want to squeeze two more stories.


You have both picked one. Kate, the front of the capital Telegraph, I


would be happy to grow GM crops on my estate, says Princess Ann. If


you're going to pick a row with your sibling, I'm not sure I would choose


GM crops. On the one hand we have Princess Anne, who says you


be happy to grow GM crops on her estate. That contrasts with the


Prince of Wales, who was a patron of the soil Association and is


well-known for his promotion of organic goods. What I really like


about what Princess Anne has to say on GM crops, she says she wants to


do this for the right value. She is interested in the cost and trying to


make things cost effective for people. She is looking at this from


a public perspective. I think she has the mass public in mind when she


is talking about it. This is coming from an interview which is coming on


Farming Today tomorrow morning. What do you think? Brothers against


sisters on something like this. Princess am is quite used to getting


a bad press. My instinct is she will get quite a good press on this. It


is very unusual for her to join in what could be a press battle with


her brother. But, good for her. I think she is misunderstood. She has


been misunderstood over the years and has done a lot of very good work


for our country. I do not think we would suggest that brother and


sister have sat down and had an argument about this. Do you think


they might have had a phone call or a chat? You never know. It is fun to


speculate. David Guetta a curse to the Express. This is a rail strike


on the Grand National day in Liverpool. I am sceptical about how


many racegoers at the Grand National use Merseyrail. Let's assume a


significant number of them do. You do wonder what genius inside the RMT


has decided that the Grand National day is the day to have a strike on


those trains? It is... It defeats all logic. If you're trying to win


public support, not least on Merseyside, and in the north-west of


England full that this is a fantastic day. I shared a government


enquiry on the listed events. The one glaring example was called the


Grand National. It will be Merseyrail and a really trains north


and seven all set to walk out on April eight. No one is here to


answer your question otherwise we could have posted. That is it. Thank


you both very much indeed. Don't forget you can see the front pages


of the papers online on the BBC News website. It is all there. Seven days


a week. If you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later


on the BBC I play. Thank you, Kate. Goodbye.


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