21/03/2017 The Papers


21/03/2017

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be hard. Salford had a great win last week against Castleford. He

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enjoys great success plenty more here on hello and welcome you to

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look ahead at what the papers will bring us. Welcome to both of you. A

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look at those front pages first of all. Starting with the match which

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leads on the decision to ban electronic devices on flights to the

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UK from some Middle Eastern countries. The i talks about Martin

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McGuinness as the killer who turn to peace. The Daily Telegraph talks

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about fears of a new terror plot. In the times, a flight ban on laptops

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after new bomb fears. In the Daily Express, there is a story about a

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breakthrough on Alzheimer's. Let's begin with the i. Let's talk about

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the killer who turned to peace. Absolutely. I do not think there has

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been some quite so divisive as Martin McGuinness. You can see

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clearly on the front page can at one point or he is described as an IRA

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commander. Then the architect of the Good Friday Agreement. It is someone

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who has had to phases of his life. Juxtaposed there we have how the

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victims families have reacted to it today with a line here is saying,

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with his death, the truth is buried. I think we can see he is a hugely

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divisive character. I am sure there will be a huge mixture of opinions

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going on for the next few days. It has been a complicate its story to

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tell. I liked what your correspondent summed up earlier

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today. A legacy of contradictions was the expression. You know, it is

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understandable, given on the one hand the background as a provisional

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IRA terrorist, and the reaction of the families. If you have lost a

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family member or more than one family member, would you ever

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forgive Martin McGuinness and the IRA? I very much doubt it. On the

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other hand, some people have. You know, we have also seen today Colin

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Parry, who lost his 12-year-old son tragically in Warrington. He met

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Martin McGuinness. Several times. Then, of course, you hear from the

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politicians, who while pointing out this black past on Martin

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McGuinness, some who were involved very closely, who I know were

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involved in the famous agreement, the Easter agreement, say without

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Martin McGuinness there would not be the peace there is today. It will be

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up to the historians I suppose in the future to get to the bottom of

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it. The idea of without him the peace not been possible is, to an

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extent, due to what other members of the IRA thought of him. Without him,

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they would not probably have followed suit, we are told.

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Absolutely. He is a leading light. That is probably at great personal

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risk to himself that he pursued the Good Friday Agreement, so when the

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papers were signed and he led on that issue. I think that he is

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someone who, historians will look back on him and have different

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opinions on it and judge. What we can probably safely say is he took a

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huge personal risk and that has to be commended in some way. Just from

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looking at the papers as well, people have chosen to follow this in

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various different ways. The i paper has a picture of him on the front

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whereas other papers have chosen to show the procession, the Coffin, the

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flag. The newspaper editors today there is probably a bit of decision

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on how we will do this, how will put this man on the front of our papers.

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The big question is, what happened a long Martin McGuinness's journey

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from provisional IRA commander to senior politician, Deputy First

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Minister of Ireland? What was the catalyst for change? Was it as Lord

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Tebbit says, he was a coward and saw what was coming down the road and

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thought, hey, I am a man of peace, as Lord Tebbit put it, rather

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cynically. But understandably, as I say. Or, was it something better

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than that? Indeed, what happened to Ian Paisley? A different journey

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which ended up with the Chuckle Brothers. I think you could say

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perhaps there was a strategy there and it was to push things to a

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constitutional agreement. He was successful in doing that. We have to

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say his last act was actually to bring down the assembly. We are

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looking forward now to next week and to see how the power-sharing

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arrangement will be brought back together. Might it be that his

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legacy, actually, will be to put greater pressure on the current

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Ulster politicians to reach some sort of agreement again? I wondered

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if you are hearing anything along those lines at Westminster? It

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crystallised things today. There will be expediency and speed about

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it. Very much getting on with it. The Secretary of State for Northern

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Ireland has been in talks over the last few days, trying to hone in on

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the process. Do you think it has been, certainly in my lifetime, a

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lot longer than yours, the most extraordinary thing that has

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happened politically in my lifetime? The Queen shaking hands with Martin

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McGuinness. Certainly that. You have followed events over over the years

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quite closely. You talked about the Chuckle Brothers, the coming

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together of two extremes politically. Before you had the

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David Trimble, John Hume combination. It did not quite get

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there. People forget that there was a previous agreements, of course, in

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the 1970s, that crumbled because of the opposition from somebody called

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Paisley. And indeed the IRA, provisional IRA. This could be a

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fresh start. These are two ladies who could be working together in the

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future. We have not had that situation before. As we continued

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talking about him, let's go to the Daily Telegraph rampage. We were

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talking about different pictures. Here is an example of one where they

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have shown a picture of his coffin being carried through the streets of

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Londonderry but also the headline, taking more of this line on the

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victim 's secrets. Those, David, who are highly critical of him, one of

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the points he was making was he knew a good deal more than he has ever

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told us. He did. How many other people did? Having said that, an

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interesting point. In 2007, it is alleged that Martin McGuinness was

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not prosecuted for his alleged role in the 1972 bombing because of

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political pressure. Where that political pressure was coming from

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within the police and where was the pressure on the police coming from,

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one wonders? The fragility of that agreement in Northern Ireland is

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very evident today. Just a final word at Westminster. Sinn Fein

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representatives have never taken their seats to Westminster. In terms

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of representation there, working at Westminster, you never see them in

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the flesh. That is true. You hear from the DUP a lot. They are

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extremely vocal on the floor of the House of Commons. We have been

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thrust into a different world. From the Westminster bubble to go back

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over to Stormont today, it has been interesting. Let's move on to the

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other big story of the evening. Take us to the front page of the times.

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Again, what was the catalyst here? What is the catalyst for the

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security, later security clamp-down? Was it fears of an active terror

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plot, as some of the newspapers are suggesting today? Or, as the Times

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is suggesting, is it a more general concern involving Al-Qaeda in

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Lebanon, not in Lebanon, in Yemen, being desperate to bring down a

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plane. Your travel experts, there aren't many of them. We found two

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this evening. You found two. The legendary Simon Calder was battle by

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it. A bomb is a bomb, whether it is in the hold or the hand luggage, it

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would seem to me. I have come back in the past few days from the States

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for .my wife, when she opened her case at home, discovers a letter

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from the US Department saying that, lucky woman that she is, her case

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had been taken apart in Miami airport and three packs, rather

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beautifully I have to say, probably better than the original. That is

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the level of some of the security in the States. The other point is that

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people have to have confidence in their being a good reason behind

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this because it will clearly inconvenienced people. Absolutely.

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It'll be a ban on your tablets. Some of your larger mobile phones, on

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games. Gaming devices. DVD players. Those are from a lesser point of

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view, the kind of items you want to keep your family occupied on a

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really long flight. It will be a huge inconvenience, also for

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business travellers as well. Not being able to use your laptop. I am

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sure you do trust the security. The UK is on a severe terror threat

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anyway. You can understand why these things do come in. They'll be very

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hard to work with this, I think. I want to squeeze two more stories.

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You have both picked one. Kate, the front of the capital Telegraph, I

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would be happy to grow GM crops on my estate, says Princess Ann. If

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you're going to pick a row with your sibling, I'm not sure I would choose

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GM crops. On the one hand we have Princess Anne, who says you

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be happy to grow GM crops on her estate. That contrasts with the

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Prince of Wales, who was a patron of the soil Association and is

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well-known for his promotion of organic goods. What I really like

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about what Princess Anne has to say on GM crops, she says she wants to

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do this for the right value. She is interested in the cost and trying to

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make things cost effective for people. She is looking at this from

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a public perspective. I think she has the mass public in mind when she

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is talking about it. This is coming from an interview which is coming on

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Farming Today tomorrow morning. What do you think? Brothers against

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sisters on something like this. Princess am is quite used to getting

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a bad press. My instinct is she will get quite a good press on this. It

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is very unusual for her to join in what could be a press battle with

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her brother. But, good for her. I think she is misunderstood. She has

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been misunderstood over the years and has done a lot of very good work

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for our country. I do not think we would suggest that brother and

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sister have sat down and had an argument about this. Do you think

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they might have had a phone call or a chat? You never know. It is fun to

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speculate. David Guetta a curse to the Express. This is a rail strike

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on the Grand National day in Liverpool. I am sceptical about how

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many racegoers at the Grand National use Merseyrail. Let's assume a

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significant number of them do. You do wonder what genius inside the RMT

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has decided that the Grand National day is the day to have a strike on

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those trains? It is... It defeats all logic. If you're trying to win

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public support, not least on Merseyside, and in the north-west of

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England full that this is a fantastic day. I shared a government

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enquiry on the listed events. The one glaring example was called the

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Grand National. It will be Merseyrail and a really trains north

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and seven all set to walk out on April eight. No one is here to

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answer your question otherwise we could have posted. That is it. Thank

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you both very much indeed. Don't forget you can see the front pages

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of the papers online on the BBC News website. It is all there. Seven days

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a week. If you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later

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on the BBC I play. Thank you, Kate. Goodbye.

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Hello. Good evening. More icy conditions overnight across Scotland

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and some more snow as well, mainly for the hills of northern

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