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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Caroline Frost, entertainment editor

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of the Huffington Post and parliamentary reporter

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The Metro leads with the Home Secretary putting pressure

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on internet companies over access to encrypted messages in the wake

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The Guardian quotes opposition politicians, who say that

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Amber Rudd's demand is unrealistic and disproportionate.

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The Telegraph's also covering that story and says Amber Rudd is furious

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that the attacker's whatsapp messages are being kept secret.

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One of the main stories in the FT is the police clampdown

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on anti-corruption protests in Russia.

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The Express says that millions of families are facing

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major council tax increases from next month.

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The Times says Britain risks signing worthless

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trade deals because ministers are failing to recognise

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The Mirror's lead features the missing girl

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Madeline McCann as a former detective claims someone

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The paper says David Cameron's Downing Street was part of a cover

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We'll look at some of the different coverage of this issue over WhatsApp

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and why you can or shouldn't be able to access messages sent on that

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platform after what Amber Rudd said today. Rudd unrealistic says the

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Guardian to allow access to WhatsApp, the Home Secretary refuses

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to rule out an encryption law after the attack but she wants to appeal

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to the companies to do the right thing and inshore messages can be

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accessed. Yes, which as you can imagine is her preferred option

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because if they can that means you don't need all that legislation. The

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problem is one of their unique brands is their privacy, they are

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boastful about the fact users around the world can send these very

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private messages, and in this day and age when we can look into all

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corners of the Internet, and there's all this chat and spin about state

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intrusion, it's a big deal for them. Obviously this need for security has

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come along and many people would think it beats it in this day and

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age when our personal safety is at risk. She is hoping very much that

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they will do the right thing and the problem is, as we touched on

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earlier, is whether they can. One of the things is they say it is

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encrypted at either end and the chances are, even their own in-house

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technicians can't access those messages, so it's case of people

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being prepared to access bones and what you. Critics have said is there

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a need for this and the practicalities of imposing it on a

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global scale. The concern is if you provide a backdoor way to access

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these messages, anybody could do it if you have the know-how, whether

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your intentions are good or bad. Absolutely. In the UK if the

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government said in the UK you can't use end to end encryption or it has

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to be designed with a back door so security services can access it,

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there's the problem that other actors may want to do that and

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there's the problem of what that says internationally. It's the

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British government you can trust us, we are a good government, we're not

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a bad government. I have some sympathy with why WhatsApp sticks to

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its opinions but there's a stronger argument for some of the issues

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around and Publication than this one, WhatsApp are reducing to hand

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over these messages -- around Google. I would argue why we have

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become so attached to an app that didn't exist over three or four

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years ago and people are thinking they need industrial level

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encryption to their mates about where they are meeting for the pub.

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I'm not sure that is necessary. Whether you gain these extra

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privacies by accident or design, once you've got then, many people

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will say you shouldn't have to give them up. Winning them back over

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becomes a big deal. Maybe that's the case and maybe 30 years ago we will

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look at the Wild West we allow the Internet to become, and we have

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allowed it to become an open market with little regulation and control.

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Perhaps people will look at the start of the social media age and

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look at the way we didn't regulate it as absurd. We know many

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politicians have said the market will dictate everything. It could be

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in this day and age post trauma, people feel strongly enough to be

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hunting down an equivalent WhatsApp mechanism that doesn't have this

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encryption. If there's a boy boycott them WhatsApp will have to do

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something. Markets don't make decisions about this. Companies are

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making announcements about their business model and our government is

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saying can you talk to us, instead of saying we are going to legislate

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and close down your business and fine you. The Sun is campaigning on

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this. That is the Sun's view, the headline implies it is, it may not

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be, it may be paraphrasing what the security services have been saying.

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They can't decode encrypted messages, though, going back to the

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initial point. Maybe I have misunderstood the technology, maybe

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WhatsApp are lying saying their technicians can't access these

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messages or see other people's messages. They haven't done this to

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create a hiding place. They've developed something and said it's

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nothing to do with us what it is used for, if people send messages as

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terrorists. I understand that but as time goes on it becomes more

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intolerable. You hear two things from these companies, one is it has

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nothing to do with us, we just provide the platform, that is

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unacceptable. Then they say we believe in the first Amendment, and

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my response is you're in the UK, not the US. The issue with WhatsApp,

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they are not a publisher like YouTube or Google. They are device,

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they are an app, they are thing, we use it merrily because we can do

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group messages and phone calls and send snaps. It has made life easy.

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It makes you wonder, a wise friend always says to me, if you can't work

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out what the product is, you are the product and I have been happily

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using WhatsApp for a long time and it makes you wonder, who am I

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helping? It is very new to me, you just pick up the phone! On the Sun,

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defiant daughter revealed, daughter revealed, the daughter of Khalid

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Masood, whose name is Tegan, who defied his orders it says. I don't

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want to break any journalistic competences but when it says

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something has emerged that means it was in the Sunday Times yesterday.

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If you want to know about it it is all there. Looking in the Times,

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ices uses terror attack to sign up YouTube recruits, Google fails to

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stop deluge of propaganda videos -- Isis. What is the evidence that

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recruitment has taken place despite just the videos -- and not just the

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videos? The hundreds of foreign fighters in Syria is the evidence.

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The government in terms of legislation is on a stronger footing

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here. These tech companies will say they believe in freedom of speech,

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very nice, but in this case you are a publisher, we are all journalists,

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if we published hard-core pornography in a newspaper the

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police would come looking. There are regulations around standards and the

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government needs to assert itself now. They had to cajole and persuade

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these companies to take trial sex abuse images off their platforms,

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they had to be convinced of that. I think the government needs to be a

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lot harsher with Facebook... Sorry, with Google over YouTube and say if

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you don't start shutting this down, we will start shutting you down and

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the issue is these companies have vast revenues, they don't want to

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pay to regulate their own content. It would be time consuming and a

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difficult thing to do. They don't want to do it so they say first

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Amendment rights, nothing to do with us. Mark Zuckerberg has used the

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same argument because of the delay in regulation in the Facebook world.

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Brexit negotiators and risk rushing into harmful trade deals in the

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Times. Steve Wilcock from the School of economics, the LSE, helping civil

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servants get ready for these investigations. He is really saying

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that this idea of no deal is better than a bad deal, a great soundbite

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but Theresa May is taking issue with that. He is taking issue with that.

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It's interesting what he is saying about trade deals, what the

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government is saying, as soon as we leave the EU we will be able to do

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quick trade deals with the US, China, Australia and the. He is

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warning against the political expediency saying we can get this

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done in two years or 18 months will produce bad trade deals -- and New

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Zealand. Trade deals take as long as they take. The government is keen to

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give off the impression that as soon as we leave trade deals will be done

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across the piece and he is warning it could be more complex and you

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need to be more wary and ring into a trade negotiation with the Trump

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White House and the big factor is time -- entering into. When you look

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at the trade deals the WTO has been involved in, they go for years. I

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think they are not looking at the size of the EU. We have talked about

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how it has been fractured by the UK removing itself, but it remains an

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enormous trading mechanism. People will say we will be fine, and it

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just seems to me as though the message is Brexit will work at any

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cost and we will make anything... It can't be seen to fail. If we're

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going to leave the EU we have to make Brexit work one way or another.

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Saying a bad deal is better than no deal, I understand why she says it

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and she says it because her predecessor David Cameron went into

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European negotiations saying it would be tough, and he came back

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with nothing, that's why we had a referendum and he lost because he

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came at it from a position of weakness and not having the vision

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to say we will leave if we don't get what we want. We should be willing

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them to get good deals quickly. Of course we should. He is warning that

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you should do trade deals within a set period because it is politically

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expedient for you, you should recognise they are more complex than

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that and if it takes three years rather than two years, it will be

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better. I think he is saying country above party again. Looking at the

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Telegraph, GPs failing women, say MPs. According to this article

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nearly half of women need to visit their GP ten times before being

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diagnosed with common gynaecological complaints. This is slightly odd

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because we get invitations at various ages to go for all sorts of

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checks and tests. I also think that a lot of these conditions that have

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been referred to are outsourced to different screening centres. I'm not

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sure if that has somehow been lost in the small print but actually a

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lot of women are catered for elsewhere. But these big is alone

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are pretty shocking. Anecdotally, I'm not sure if any of my friends

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would stand for ten visits before they get told it's maybe not in your

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head. -- these figures. Some women reported feeling they were going mad

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after being told there was nothing wrong despite years of painful

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symptoms. As I would say, if it was a man it would be slightly fewer

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visits. Although, sometimes it has been argued services for men's

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health has not been as well advertised and funded as those for

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women. Men are much less likely to see a doctor, women seek reassurance

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from doctors more than men and that can lead to serious health problems.

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As a man, I am really shocked by this and it's another reminder to me

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of the million ways in which women are treated differently in our

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society, the million ways they can be discriminated against and it's

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really good the APPG on women's health, a parliamentary group that

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has produced the best, the sort of group 20 years ago Tory MPs would

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have laughed at as people like Harriet Harman pushed forward these

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agendas, it's now so prominent they can be on the front page of the

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Telegraph and the work they are doing is taken seriously because it

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is serious. And it is cross-party? It is. A surprise because so many

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women are GPs. It's not like it's an old men's club in the centre of

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London. So little time when you get in to see a GP, the clock is

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ticking! I don't know whether I have anything to say about this next

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story. Not that I need to! The Daily Mail, Harry, Prince Harry, and his

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American actress girlfriend, Meghan, are setting up home together.

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Discuss. That's interesting! Is it? They are going to be moving into

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Kensington Palace, reports claim, which is reasonably significant in

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terms of whether they will actually get together. I would have been

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surprised if the Royal family would have thought a divorced American

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actress would have been an appropriate consort for someone

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already quite close to the throne in terms of in-line for the throne but

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change and the Queen has changed with them. Prince Harry is not going

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to be king, is he crazy I have been watching the series about the Royal

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House of Windsor. If he sets up home with his girlfriend, we know that

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William and Kate set up house, it was very lovely in the Welsh privacy

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of Anglesey. We know that Edward did. Anything but another royal

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divorce, anything. We will wait and see, we wish them well whatever they

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choose. That's the papers for tonight. Caroline and Tony, lovely

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to see you. As always, thank you very much. Coming up next, The Film

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Review.

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