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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
With me are Camilla Tominey, Deputy political editor | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
at The Daily Express and the Broadcaster, David Davies. | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
Let's have a look at some front pages. | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
The Sun leads with tonight's news that the Moors murderer, | :00:32. | :00:33. | |
They say he never revealed where he buried one of his vitims. | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
The Times also carries a picture Ian Brady, | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
The Times also carries a picture of Ian Brady, | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
but leads with a drugs firm facing a fine of hundreds of millions | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
of pounds, for increasing the cost of cancer medicines. | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
The FT says the hackers could be ready to launch a second global | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
cyber attack using a system stolen from US spies. | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
Ahead of tomorrow's manifesto launch - the i's headline is 'Labour's | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
tax grab on the rich', with the paper expected to propose | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
extending the top rate to those earning above ?80,000 a year. | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
The Telegraph leads on the same story - | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
claiming that almost a million middle-class people would be dragged | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
into paying the top rate of income tax under Labour's plans. | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
While The Guardian reports a Labour manifesto pledging a levy on firms | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
paying over ?330,000 on individual wages. | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
The Metro focuses on the search for body of missing schoolgirl | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
Danielle Jones, following a tip-off, 16 years after she disappeared. | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
And the Express says a balanced diet and exercise can | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
Another winner from you. The Sunday express, actually. Got out of that | :01:36. | :01:59. | |
one very nicely, neat footwork in there. Appreciate that, very good. | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
We're going to go with the sun. Breaking news tonight, Ian Brady has | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
died. At Ashworth psychiatric hospital. I think we have the front | :02:11. | :02:16. | |
page of the paper. There it is. That's how they are referring to | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
him. A lot of people feel that way and this day could not come soon | :02:20. | :02:27. | |
enough. I think as well, when you look at that headline and the | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
description of monster and the mugshot, the of him alongside Myra | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
are probably some of the most awful the iconic images of the 60s and | :02:35. | :02:42. | |
have lived with us for many generations. I am starkly reminded | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
of Winnie Johnson 's death, the mother of Keith Bennett in 2012, and | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
reading her obituary and this poor woman who went to her grave not | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
knowing where her 12-year-old son was buried. That is still the case | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
for all these families so this man, this monster who are on a number of | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
occasions took the police on a wild goose chase on the moors discovered | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
nothing, and families had no pleasure whatsoever. This will not | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
be closure for them if they do not know where these bodies were buried. | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
What do we do? How do we react to this? We react appropriately, we do | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
not eulogise him, we reflect on his heinous crimes and bats try and move | :03:22. | :03:30. | |
forward. You covered the trial. I went as a journalist of the North | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
West just after the trial. Which is inked on the memories of so many | :03:38. | :03:46. | |
people. From Madeira, -- from that era. I then covered it and | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
interviewed Keith Bennett 's mother, who you mentioned. It is hard to | :03:50. | :03:59. | |
convey to people the awfulness of the feelings that everybody had at | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
that time. The impact on hardened police officers, let alone the jury | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
who heard those awful things at that trial. Let alone journalists, as | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
well, hardened journalists who had never heard things as awful as they | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
heard in that courtroom. The people you feel sorry for though, are of | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
course the relatives who will never, now, presumably, no. I always think, | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
the only thing that is never quite clear, is whether Hindley and Brady | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
did actually know where specifically where, the bodies were buried. But, | :04:38. | :04:46. | |
if they did, it was even more horrendous. For most people, it is | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
impossible to understand the level of evil, and the word monster is | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
frankly the right one. I think we have an image of the front page of | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
The Times. Sorry, we already showed that in the intro. Just showing a | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
picture there. Ian Brady, who has died. We are going to move on now | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
actually to the Financial Times. The hacking story, cyber attack, hackers | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
have second US weapon primed for attack, according to analysts. | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
Everyone expected a spike on the weekend following Friday's attack | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
but that did not happen. Do you know, my worry is that we are being | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
let down by government, be they British governments, certainly | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
questions have to be asked on the American government. And indeed of | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
the Russians in all this. If the extents of hacking is what it | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
appears to be, of course, it is horrendous what has been going on to | :05:47. | :05:54. | |
the NHS and elements of the NHS. People with heart problems, stroke | :05:55. | :06:02. | |
victims, have had to be moved elsewhere this very weekend. This is | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
the extent of it. Is it... I mean, I have occasionally been sympathetic | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
to Jeremy Hunt in this studio in the past, but the problem he has got is | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
this has happened on his watch. He will now have to answer on behalf of | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
the health service for what has been going on. It does seem bizarre, we | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
all get the messages on our computer saying you need to update your | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
software. Download this and it will happen overnight. Stuff is left not | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
quite working when you get at the next day, but you work through it | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
and get it sorted. It's hard to believe that is all a lot of these | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
trusts had to do to stop this? It's incredible. But then we have just | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
been through the winter crisis. We probably have a lot of people in | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
hospitals with other priorities. I know Amber Rudd was saying over the | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
weekend, we told just to do this and we set money aside. It comes against | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
a backdrop of catastrophic IT failures by NHS. Only a few years | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
ago they scrapped that scheme to digitise everything that cost the | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
taxpayer ?10 billion. It seems that anything they touch with regards to | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
IT turns to rot. Equally I think people are quite sympathetic with | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
the actual front line staff that had to deal with this, and also probably | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
people look at their own behaviour with their own cyber security | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
reflect that actually will probably not all as digital gent as we could | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
be. But we run NHS trusts. -- not as diligent as we could be. Some of | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
these trusts apparently, I was talking to a cyber expert tonight, | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
they have been encouraged to update their systems for several years also | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
have refused to do so because they are used to the system may have and | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
it works for them. This is the point. If governments | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
are not telling the these trusts the risks that they are running. Let me | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
declare an interest right away. I have had my e-mail account hacked in | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
recent weeks. I have discovered e-mails have been sent to certain of | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
my contacts, and friends, asking invoices which appeared to come from | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
my e-mail accounts and which when you actually look closely, come from | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
Poland and Malaysia for example. The truth of the matter is, I should be | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
changing my passwords and all the rest of it, much more regularly than | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
I am, I assume. We all should be. Then somebody has to tell us this. | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
Tell us it's deadly serious, chaps. Also why isn't this system is | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
standardised across all systems? We talk about 500 different types of | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
surgery gloves. Why are some places using Windows XP, and I heard | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
elsewhere, lotus notes? That's a messaging service that is 20 years | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
old. You stick with what you know. This is originating in the American | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
security operation, and that is a huge scandal. There is a bloke | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
called Trump who should be concentrating perhaps a bit more on | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
that. He has issues on his plate, don't worry about that. Camilla, the | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
I. Tax grabs on the rich. The Labour manifesto out tomorrow, they have | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
got to cost all this stuff? We are living in some sort of Groundhog | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
Day. We heard all this last week when the manifesto was weak. Going | :09:34. | :09:41. | |
back over it. But occur when the manifesto was leaked. Corbin saying | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
anyone who owns over 80 grand in taxed. He has made all these | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
pledges. He wants to scrap Jewish and fees, money back into the NHS. | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
Everyone is vitally asking how to fund this. -- he wants to scrap | :09:56. | :10:05. | |
tuition fees. Well, most people will not be taxed, according to him. | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
Let's be fair. I am making this assumption based on the part of the | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
manifesto that was not leaked were the costings. We await with baited | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
breath. There was the assumption they had made at least 12 pledges on | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
the back basis of the Corporation pledged tax. These things have to | :10:27. | :10:33. | |
add up. An 80 billion price tag on Norman Smith. That has to come from | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
somewhere and I would assume people's pockets in order to | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
generate this revenue, borrowing admittedly, but also there must be | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
tax hikes as the Telegraph has suggested. The top 5% of earners, | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
big business, they can afford all that. This is what Labour is saying. | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
Surely you are able to make that argument. The problem is, because | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
the gap between rich and poor in our country under Tory, under Labour | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
administrations, has hopelessly gotten wider. Having said that, | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
there is unfortunately a real problem with the leader of the | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
Labour Party. And you can talk to candidates of any colour on the | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
doorstep, and if it is impossible for so many people to see the prime | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
ministerial candidate of the Labour Party ever walking into number ten | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
Downing St and kissing hands with the Queen and all that sort of | :11:31. | :11:37. | |
thing, then whatever you propose... Biggest party in Europe? 4 million | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
members? That's right, you can do that, you can appeal, but you can | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
only win an election from a broad spectrum. If you cannot attract that | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
broad spectrum, because your leader is not seen as a true potential | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
Prime Minister, you have a problem. Front page of the Daily Telegraph, | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
we will end on this. Labour plan to pull 1 million into top tax bracket. | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
This is their spin, we know the Telegraph 's political leaning. Is | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
this the Achilles' heel in a lot of these policies? 10,000 extra cost to | :12:11. | :12:19. | |
copies on the beat. More money for the NHS. A lot of people agree with | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
that. But the tax issue could be the thing that a lot of people say, you | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
know what, I don't earn 80,000 but I want to, I don't want to be trapped. | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
If its EU as anti-aspirational batsman thing, I think the | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
corporation taxes damning than this personal tax. Purely on the basis | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
that people understand the wealth creation and supporting businesses | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
as we going to Brexit is crucial. Even the Institute of fixed school | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
studies of the nation of increasing corporation tax at this time, when | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
we are going through his negotiation under going to have to be firing on | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
all business cylinders is silly. Equally I think voters are sadly now | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
and they still have echoes of Gordon Brown flogging gold at the wrong | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
price, and there is no money left. He didn't know the price is going to | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
fall when he did so! Regardless, that's how the voters think. They | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
look at Labour and think spend, spend. The look that Ed balls in the | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
economy. I don't agree at all. I come back to the point they made, | :13:22. | :13:30. | |
the Conservatives, yes the conservative press are successfully | :13:31. | :13:32. | |
creating this as Theresa May or Corbin. It's going ahead and people | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
do not see Jeremy Corbyn. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the tax | :13:38. | :13:45. | |
rates, etc, by the way, some of us remember 1992 when Woodward talking | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
about, was it ?22,000 Labour was going to have a higher tax rate? Now | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
it's 80. Not many people on that. We will have to leave it there. Thanks | :13:56. | :14:04. | |
for that. Thanks for looking at the stories. And to you for watching. I | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
buy. | :14:08. | :14:08. |