29/05/2017 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

With me are the journalist and broadcaster Rachel Shabi

and Martin Bentham, who's the Home Affairs Editor for the

Are we going to talk to the straightaway or have a look at some

of the papers? We will do just that. Let's have a look at some of the

papers. The Mirror leads with

the Manchester Arena bomber, Salman Abedi, who was seen carrying

a suitcase days before the attack. The Guardian's top story

is Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn taking part in live

TV interviews tonight. The Telegraph says the Labour Leader

refused to say in the interview if he would ever authorise

a drone strike to kill The Times focuses on Theresa May

trying to woo working-class Labour and Ukip voters to switch

to the Conservatives over Brexit. An opinion poll shows the Tories

have a 6-point lead over Labour. The Metro leads on the female

zookeeper killed by a tiger at It also has the death of former

Blue Presenter John Noakes. One of the stories on the FT

is Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron

holding talks near Paris. And eating fish just

once or twice a week could protect against dementia -

that's according to research seen Well, let us begin. Let's go to this

TB, keep trying to avoid the word debate but it's in the headlines.

You start off with the Guardian talking about... This is Theresa

May, Jeremy Corbyn first and then Theresa May. The interviews were

separate and then taking questions from the audience. What do you think

of it? I thought it was a no score draw. Jeremy Corbyn performed

perhaps better than some people might have thought he would. I think

he did quite well from that point of view, Theresa May did -- had some

difficult questions about the U-turn and leading the Brexit negotiations.

She came through it quite well and finished quite strongly. It

ultimately probably will not affect the election a great deal which was

a bit of a no score draw. The Guardian story is an early version.

Jeremy Corbyn was the first person to appear. They have started with an

account of his performance. They will catch up by updating with what

Theresa May was saying and being questioned on. Complete a reporting

job, which is unusual in an election campaign. Rachel, the point about

Jeremy Corbyn, he faced quite a tough time because he was asked, did

you support the ERA? Paxman seemed to dig into his history a great

deal. -- the IRA. They both faced tough questioning. Corbyn about the

thing people have been trying to get to stick to him for the last month

has not worked about the IRA. I disagree. I think this was probably

a win for Corbyn in the sense that Theresa May, let's remember we're

not having debates because she didn't want them. She didn't want to

be exposed to a live debate with Jeremy Corbyn. The more we see of

her the more we can understand why. She doesn't do well in this format

and she doesn't do well for the public. With Jeremy Corbyn, it is

the opposite. He thrives in this environment. He is very natural and

engaged when he has a chance to be with the public. The more exposure

she has, the worse she will do and the more it will appear like her

leadership is premised on a very thin veneer. With Corbyn, the

opposite is true for stop the more people see the more they like him.

Some people. There are a lot of voters. A lot of people are not

convinced by Corbyn. That is a definite fact. He is well behind in

the leadership. Here's behind compared with where he was before.

It is under liable and completely unimaginable he is doing as well as

he is doing. I certainly would do. He has improved and performed quite

well tonight. There were some areas he was wobbly on. He ultimately came

through well. I do think she did well. Didn't Paxman get a point over

the Prime Minister when he said to her, listen, the way you had to

backtrack, let's call it a U-turn over social care and things like

that, particularly care of the very elderly. It showed in negotiations

over Brexit, people in Europe will say, you have to stick to your guns

and she will run away. That is truth is that she had difficult issues and

that quote from Jeremy Paxman about a blowhard who will roll over at the

first sign of battle, whatsoever. That was difficult for her to deal

with. On the other hand, when she said, are you prepared to walk away?

She gave a good answer to that. It makes no sense. Walking away from a

no deal is really strong. You could say walking away with no deal is not

a strong position. Let's have a look at the times. The front page of the

times. Mae woos working class with a tough line on Brexit was that surely

it is a tough line to say, if we do not like it, we will go. Is it tough

to say, we will take whatever chaos that will follow a no deal. That is

not tough. It makes you look low. Like you have no ground to stand on.

The piece in the Times will be looking at what Theresa May is

trying to do this week, which is re-energise her floundering campaign

by appealing to the working class vote. A lot of the operational

premise of this campaign has been that the Conservatives will

basically swallow up Ukip voters now that they have moved so far to the

right there is no need for Ukip. This is very much of them continuing

in that same vein. The question really is, if the Labour Party voted

for Brexit and is going for Brexit, then, it is not a given that the

Ukip photo would automatically switch Conservative. Quite a few

Ukip voters were traditional Labour voters. That has always been the

case. It is true from personal experience, being on the campaign

Trail, it has not been as much about Brexit as an issue in the election

on the doorstep. Theresa May, despite the setback she has had but

she wants to try to return to the agenda before, trying to present

herself as the more compelling leader. She has had a bad week or

so. The Manchester attack and the big wobble over social care which

has undermined her position. She wants to get back to some of the

issues she think she is stronger on and score points on. She still think

she will be more effective over the area of immigration and so on with

the Brexit negotiations. Did the issue of security, came back in some

ways to Manchester, did security figure in it? Did once say, I am

really tough on this or not. Security came up quite a bit from

the audience in both the sets of questions. I think the policing

issue came up quite a bit, that Theresa May had cut the police force

by 20,000, especially when the police force had warned it would put

us in danger if there were a security attack. I do not think it

was the surprising issue of the debate. Don't say debate. Let's go

back to the business of Manchester. Martin, perhaps you would start us

on this one. It will be in a lot of the papers. It is a picture of some

and a birdie with a blue case and the cops hunting for it. -- Salman

Abedi. This is the latest bit of CCTV footage that has been released

of his movements. You have had some in a supermarket. What is happening

is the police and MI5 are trying to piece together exactly where he was

at all points in the four days since he returned from Libya and also to

trace this suitcase, which they are saying they do not believe has

anything explosive or dangerous in it but at the same time I have

informational something in it which is useful to them as part of their

investigation. Basically they want to piece together every single

detail of what happened in the period he was in the country. We see

so many images and they come up. They said the public should not

approach because you never know what the suitcase might contain. A

difficult situation altogether. Let's move on. Another sad story

here. The match around this business about the woman's zookeeper. We are

beginning to get a few more details. A couple of the newspapers, we are

talking about the Metro Festival. Basically, what we know about this,

I think the woman has been named. We know a little bit about it but not a

lot. Not a lot, except it sounds horrendous and gruesome. Zoo was

evacuated after bloodcurdling screams were heard. This was a young

woman zookeeper being apparently attacked and killed by a tiger. This

was over the bank holiday. Obviously, it would have been very

busy, I would imagine, and was very quickly evacuated. A horrible

business altogether. As you say, lots of families around and so on.

But a freak accident. These things hardly ever happen. That is the only

consolation. We don't know how it did happen. It was not that the

animal escaped. Presumably something went wrong in the procedure for

keeping the animal London zookeeper apart, while the zookeeper was doing

whatever she was trying to do at the time. Some suggestion that the

zookeeper who died when to try to help somebody else. Who knows? A

ghastly business altogether. It will be in a lot newspapers. Let's go

back to the Times and British Airways with the most appalling

weekend. Another line in the Times. BA accused of profiting from trapped

passengers. What have they done wrong now? There are allegations

that people are having to bring the premium rate hotline to register

their compensation claims and also that people are not being reimbursed

for having to take upgrades to find a way of getting out and getting

away on holidays or business trips, or whatever it is they were going

on. It just compounds what has been an absolutely disastrous few days

for British Airways. I feel sorry for them. I quite like British

Airways. They have been shooting themselves in the foot left right

and centre. All these people, it is not just the fact you have had your

flight is delayed. You can get refunds and so on. That does not

help you if you have lost days of your holiday or you have missed the

whole start of it. And almost certainly your luggage has gone

somewhere else. Behind all this, there is a suggestion from the trade

unions involved that what British Airways did was to get rid of

skilled IT people, British Airways employees, and subcontract the work

to India, and that is at the root of the problems. One wonders if that

can be true but there has been a massive IT failure. It is

interesting in this piece from the Times, the BA chief Executive, when

he finally did appear... It is not a good look at it takes that long. He

said something about the surge that cut out their system being so strong

it actually cut out their back-up system as well. That seems really

odd. It seems like a really strange setup to have and suggest some kind

of... It is very bad business management that has a system which

can be blown out by one power surge and the back-up as well. Clearly you

need their resilience from a corporate point of view in the

system so that if the main one goes down, the back-up will work,

especially on something like the airline. The allegation is they are

not the first people to suffer from this. D in the US had problems a few

months ago. Quite similar system failure. The trouble with BA, when

they are going out of Heathrow in particular where it is chock-a-block

with planes and it is absolutely at capacity all the time anyway,

anything that goes wrong has a massive knock on effect. It takes

days for it to unravel, to clear the backlog. I think it is horrendous. A

lot of people will think twice before they book with BN again -- BA

again. On the front page of the Daily Mail. Some familiar faces. The

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their two children, romping in their

garden, I think it is. Romping in their garden in Norfolk. A really

nice image. A nice family snap. Very relaxed and casual. I'm taken by the

dog in motion in the middle of this shot. They have captured him

mid-round in a very engaging manner, I think. There is a point to the

story. I wish Diana had met my family. One must remind themselves

it is 20 years since the Princess of Wales died. I thought it was about

the grass not being cut. He needs to get the lawn mower house. It is a

lovely photograph. If you were running the Royal properties, you

would be Astroturf in them, wouldn't you? Sign up I would. As long as you

don't suffer from hay fever, it has to be said.

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