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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment - | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
Jeremy Corbyn apologises after being unable to come up | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
with the cost of Labour's key childcare policy | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
Meanwhile, Theresa May returns to her main election message - | :00:24. | :00:30. | |
saying only the Conservatives can be trusted to win a good | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
Launching the SNP manifesto - Nicola Sturgeon says victory | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
in Scotland would 'further reinforce' the mandate for a second | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
Senior political figures in Wales take part in a television debate | :00:42. | :00:48. | |
ahead of next week's general election. | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
The singer Ariana Grande announces she's returning to perform | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
in Manchester less than two weeks after the bombing that | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
Police say three men arrested in connection | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
with the Manchester bombing have been released without charge. | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :01:05. | :01:31. | |
Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
With me are Ben Chu, Economics and business | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
editor at The Independent, and Dave Wooding, political editor | :01:38. | :01:39. | |
Tomorrow's front pages, starting with... | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
The Metro leads with what it calls a car crash interview - | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
where Jeremy Corbyn stumbled over the cost of Labour's free childcare | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
The Daily Telegraph says it has seen leaked documents showing a Labour | :01:48. | :01:56. | |
plan to allow thousands of unskilled migrants to enter | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
The same story is in the Mail adding that proposals also include axing | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
rules which limit foreign spouses living here unless they can | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
show they will not be a 'burden' on the taxpayer. | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
The Guardian focuses on Theresa May saying Jeremy Corbyn's policies | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
would leave him "alone and naked" in the negotiating chamber | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
of the EU, they call it her strongest personal attack | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
The Times refers to a YouGov poll suggesting the Conservatives | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
could be in line to lose 20 seats and Labour gain nearly 30 | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
The Daily Star's top story is the American pop star | :02:33. | :02:43. | |
Ariana Grande returning to the UK on Sunday, for a benefit | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
concert for the victims of the Manchester Arena attack - | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
the line up includes Justin Bieber, Coldplay and Take That. | :02:49. | :02:57. | |
And one of the stories on the Financial Times is a plan | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
by London Mayor Sadiq Khan and Transport For London | :03:01. | :03:02. | |
for people to be able to use their phones on the tube. | :03:03. | :03:14. | |
We will discuss whether or not it is a good idea. Then, the metro are | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
kicking off with what has been described as a car crash interview | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
by Jeremy Corbyn on Woman's Hour, "I'm sorry, I haven't a clue". He | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
apologised afterwards, he could not remember how much the childcare | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
policy would cost. An apology was in order, it goes to show there is no | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
good in having a fully costed manifesto which you brandish as a | :03:40. | :03:46. | |
sign of Vista goal -- fiscal possibility. There has been a | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
suggestion on twitter saying whether this interview technique was unfair, | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
asking Labour spokespeople on the numbers and what they are saying, | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
isn't it turning policies into a memory test? That does not really | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
wash, 30 hours of free childcare to two to four-year-olds, it's big. He | :04:06. | :04:15. | |
launched it today, it wasn't out of the blue. To not know those numbers, | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
it's no wonder people are, down hard on him. It's not the first in that | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
election campaign? There have been multiple car crashes, multiple | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
pilots! If you look at the words people use during the by-election, | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
strong and stable, the Britain that works for everyone, many and not the | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
few, if you topped up their terms that Jeremy Corbyn Ernst during the | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
interview, that's probably the word of the election. These interviews | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
are fair game. You always hear people complaining who are loyal | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
supporters of that particular party. But being Prime Minister in Theresa | :04:56. | :05:04. | |
May's case, you put yourself forward for that job and you must accept the | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
scrutiny. It is fair game for people to ask these questions. The problem | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
is, as you rightly say, he has been asking questions about a detailed | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
policy that he had nothing else to go on and discuss. He would have | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
been briefed by his aides about the fine details of that policy. You | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
would think he would know every dot and, of it. -- every dot of it. | :05:28. | :05:38. | |
There is no excuse come is you think that he would have been served badly | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
by his aides, if they wrote it down... And how does it compare to | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
other car crashes like Diane Abbott? The police figures car crash... I | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
think it is worse. He is the party leader, for a start. This was all | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
about that particular announcement. It is a simple figure. They did the | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
costings at that stage but with Diane Abbott they had not released | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
documentation. All they needed to do was read the document they put | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
alongside the manifesto. There are only 12 or 15 lines, not a huge feat | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
of memory. And will the voters care? He apologised, it does not matter... | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
I listened to that, you were cringing from the first minute when | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
you heard it. It was sharp intakes of breath galore! I think it will | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
have an impact but it moves people in small degrees. If you compare him | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
with Gordon Brown, when he does radio or TV interviews he would have | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
his aides up at 5am. They would moan to me about it. Tracked in at 5am, | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
files and detailed documents, with figures and facts galore. And Gordon | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
would be completely on top of it. A tough job at the top. You would | :06:54. | :07:00. | |
know! The Times newspaper, according to The Times, Jeremy Corbyn is doing | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
all right as they have a shock poll predicting Tory losses!? It's | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
interesting, they are almost apologetic and how they write the | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
story, saying do not take it too literally... It is astonishing if | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
this happened. The Conservatives would actually lose about 30 | :07:19. | :07:25. | |
seats... Sorry, 20 seats. And Labour would gain 30. On one reading of | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
this model that you got have done is a bottom-up exercise in how the | :07:30. | :07:38. | |
seats will change -- YouGov. Consider five weeks ago when Theresa | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
May called this snap general election it was on the assumption | :07:42. | :07:49. | |
that they would get a landslide. For her to cement her position and to | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
lose in the House of Commons would be one of the most astonishing | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
reversals in modern electoral history. Even if she only gets a few | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
more seats than before, people would say, what is that all about? | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
People's expectations are so high, if she ends up with 40, a majority | :08:11. | :08:18. | |
of 40 seats, it would be regarded as a massive... Why did we go through | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
this hell? And the Tories, if they are struggling, we do not know | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
whether to believe in a poll like that, or any poll, but if they are | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
struggling, why? This general election is unique in some ways. It | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
is completely different from something that we have seen in | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
recent history. When you put yourself to the country, you get | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
scrutinised, as we have seen in interviews. People look at them like | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
Theresa May, we haven't seen much in the years since she became Prime | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
Minister. One thing she did different to David Cameron and Tony | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
Blair was to stay out the news. She has told us little. During the | :08:59. | :09:06. | |
campaign like this, it's inevitable she is scrutinised a and night every | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
day, in front of the cameras. And conversely, are people warming to | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
Jeremy Corbyn? Despite that car crash interview? Are they beginning | :09:17. | :09:24. | |
to like him, in a way? It is difficult to see. In the polls but | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
who is the best leader and Brexit in the economy, it is clear Theresa May | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
is held in much higher esteem by the public then Jeremy Corbyn. There is | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
no significant shift as far as I have seen on those indicators. It is | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
worth pointing out in another poll today showing the Conservatives have | :09:44. | :09:50. | |
a 12 point lead, down from about 25 points but it is at odds with the | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
idea that we are heading for that. And there is another poll showing | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
Theresa May is in line for a 100 seat majority. Someone will end up | :09:58. | :10:05. | |
with egg on their face! The Daily Mail has a story about Labour's plan | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
for Britain to open their doors wider. Letting in tens of thousands | :10:11. | :10:18. | |
of unskilled migrants, being leaked? It has the hallmarks of a | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
Conservative operation, leaking what would be perceived to be very | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
damaging for Labour, being soft on immigration and going to the | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
Telegraph and the mail. Presumably something left by a photocopier in | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
the House of Commons has been scooped up by conservative workers. | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
I do not know how concrete it is as a policy, whether it is hypothetical | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
or what they are intending to do. Or how serious it is. Will it lead to | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
tens of thousands or is it eight-week? We don't know, the | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
messages Labour are soft on immigration. I can see a change | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
in... Not the time but the subject matter of the election here. We had | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
this break with tragic events in Manchester, which stopped | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
campaigning. What we also know from the polls is attacking Jeremy Corbyn | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
on the IRA is not really sticking or having an effect. All of these | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
businesses about strong and stable leadership and past consorting with | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
terrorists, not having the slightest bit of impact. They seem to go for | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
areas where it does work. You may see Labour going for the NHS more. | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
25% of people put it as a top issue. Immigration is a top issue with | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
Brexit. We will hear the Conservatives talking a lot about | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
Brexit and immigration. Speaking of the NHS, that queues up nicely The i | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
newspaper. They have Jeremy Hunt saying that it bad Brexit will | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
damage the NHS? I do not think it is a planned intervention, The i | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
newspaper reporter doorstep and said, what about the NHS? The | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
response was if you want a strong NHS you need a strong Conservative | :12:09. | :12:14. | |
Party. I don't think this is a concerted effort to say to vote for | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
the Conservatives to protect the NHS. We all know the NHS is strong. | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
Everyone associates Labour with being the party of the NHS. I think | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
Jeremy Hunt is effectively saying something he has to say within his | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
brief. I don't think it is particularly calculated. It is | :12:36. | :12:37. | |
interesting but not what we have heard before. People like Jeremy | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
Hunt, we have not seen hugely in the campaign? It is funny how some of | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
the top Tory leadership are kept under wraps? That was all that | :12:48. | :12:56. | |
policy about Theresa May's team. You vote for her team as she is a strong | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
leader. Jeremy Corbyn, as we were saying, looks more attractive as a | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
politician and things are changing a little bit here. Away from the | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
election... You talked about Manchester. And Ariana Grande | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
announcing her concert on Sunday. In Manchester. Her concert of defiance | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
is the Daily Mirror's headline. Not just her but other big stars? That's | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
a good headline, it was a cultural terror attack, striking at the heart | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
of something that is very resonant in a lot of people's lives. Going to | :13:34. | :13:43. | |
a pop concert and the feeling is that they decided to carry on. Have | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
an even bigger concert. And a load of other megastars there. That is | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
how to honour them and help victims. It starts with young fan bases like | :13:54. | :14:02. | |
she has. A strong message going to terrorists, you cannot frighten or | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
divide us. We will remain free and have this concert to show you... | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
Some people have suggested it is too soon? With people being treated in | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
hospital and so on... It is fundraising to help the campaign. | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
There's a concert on Thursday from the other great music scene in | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
Manchester, the classical music scene with the BBC Philharmonic | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
Orchestra. Sir Mark Elder, they will all be performing a concert on | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
Thursday to raise money. Classical music is raising its bit -- is doing | :14:41. | :14:49. | |
its bit. They have shown extraordinary solidarity and unity, | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
in trying to overcome this? It is very difficult when something like | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
this happens. To know what tone to strike. It is sad, all of these | :14:58. | :15:06. | |
emotions are mixed up. I must say that Andy Burnham, the numeric | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
Manchester, has done a terrific job in speaking on behalf of the city. | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
Having just been elected. Yes, he has been a cabinet minister and that | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
high level of authority has given him the ability to speak for the | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
people with a good voice. Let's talk about the Financial Times. They have | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
a story, I do not know if it is good news or bad news. The idea that you | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
may be able to use your mobile phone or the time on the tube? That will | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
increase chatter levels... The London mayor has a lot on his plate. | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
He has the whole Brexit thing and the impact of the City of London, | :15:46. | :15:53. | |
the disaster of Stafford rail. It does not strike me that this should | :15:54. | :16:00. | |
be high on the list of priorities. People on their mobile phones while | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
on the Underground, it has been a safe haven from that kind of thing. | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
I remember reading these stories ten or 15 years ago about how we will | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
soon, in only be able to talk on the underground on our mobile phones. -- | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
imminently. Have you seen it in action? In Hong Kong, they have the | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
ability to do it and it is not very pleasant to be a passenger. People | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
shouting to their mobile phones in Protestant -- proximity to you. I | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
would not recommend it. Even though it is coming! Perhaps with all of | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
the chatter we are hearing, they should have a new line called | :16:42. | :16:49. | |
chatter chatter tube tube? You are good, you should work in newspapers! | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
And mobiles on the cheap? Most tube journeys are quite short. You can | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
use them on the tube if you come from alkaline districts into the | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
underground. It is central London where most of us are taking, what is | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
the average journey? Ten or 15 minutes? There are moments though | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
when you need to receive or send a text and you can't. I can see the | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
benefits of it but maybe they should have one carriage at the back where | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
you can use your phone? A noisy carriage! The Guardian have, is 80 | :17:27. | :17:35. | |
the new 50? Let's hope so! You are never old until you are on death's | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
door! The idea that you turn 65 and then you are an old person... It's | :17:42. | :17:50. | |
interesting, the statistics saying that when Beveridge, in the 1940s, | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
said the retirement age should be 65, half of people died before they | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
reached 70. It makes sense, you are old at this stage. Now, people get | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
to 90, 100... You are clearly not old when you are 65. Even 70. | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
Essentially, Sarah Harper, co-director of the Oxford Institute, | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
say that they had to reform how they think of age and old people. As I | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
say, you are not really old until you are no longer an active adult | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
which can be at any time. You might be 80, or even 90. You should not be | :18:28. | :18:36. | |
called old? That is what she argues! Thanks, I'm coming back again for | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
that! At this time of night, you drag me on and that is what I get! | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
It is true, you see people now in their 70s, and you say, gosh, is he | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
75? It does not look it. The standard of health, that is better. | :18:53. | :19:00. | |
The interesting thing is maybe people are older before they are old | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
at the other end of the scale. We talk about giving younger people the | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
vote at 16 and the rights that people get coming on younger. Our | :19:09. | :19:10. | |
adult life is actually expanding at both ends. You are telling us, | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
people aged 100... That is increasing? In the 18th century | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
there were only ten aged 100 but there are 20,500 in the UK alone and | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
estimates by the end of the century there will be 1.5 million over the | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
age of 100 in the UK. It goes to show... Fascinating statistics to | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
leave us with. Thank you to both of you. I apologise for questioning | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
your age. Let's have a look at some of the | :19:42. | :20:21. | |
other stories making the news this evening... Jeremy Corbyn apologises | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
for not being able to come up with the cost of Labour's key childcare | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
policy during an interview on the BBC on Woman's Hour. But he is not | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
apologising for that | :20:34. | :20:34. |