02/07/2017 The Papers

Hello, and welcome to our look at the Sunday papers.

With me are the journalist and broadcaster James Rampton

and Prashant Rao, deputy Europe business editor at

The Mail on Sunday, which claims that the Prime Minister Theresa May

is considering a dramatic U-turn on university tuition fees

to attract younger voters to the Conservative Party.

The Observer reports a Tory revolt against public sector cuts,

suggesting Theresa May is facing pressure from within her cabinet,

who are demanding a radical overhaul of state funding

The Sunday Telegraph reports claims that Number 10 has told business

leaders that Theresa May could walk out of Brexit talks over

The Express reports that British fishermen will be given exclusive

rights to a 12-mile zone around the coastline under

And "Rogue SAS unit accused of executing civilians"

is the headline on the cover of The Sunday Times.

Easy thing to do, the easy options or the easy achievements, targets

are there, because all they have to do is make the same number of

chances they have made in both Test matches and put them away and cut

the penalties out and they have got every chance to carry off what would

be a monumental victory in the series.

So, let us begin then, and the Sunday Telegraph. Number Ten

plotting a Brexit walk outment do we think they really are? I am

fascinated by this, it really hiss the tightrope that Number Ten is

walking over Brexit negotiations, this story is interesting, it talks

about how this is something for domestic consumption, you are doing

these negotiations not just in a negotiating room in Brussels or in

London, European ministers will be briefing against you, pro Brexit,

anti-Brexit MPs will be briefing against you, you have to stage these

dramatic things like walking out of negotiation in which you have 18

months to complete. ... It is probably not a good idea in advance

to say you will lose out. It loses the element of surprise. I travel a

lot for my Josh I was in Stockholm and met an Italian journalist, he

said you do realised you have become a laughing stock, in the UK, the way

you have behaved, and he said and this was a terrible insult. He said

it is worse than Sylvio Berlusconi what you have done. I can't

disagree. If you read the foreign press they say what is the UK doing?

If Mrs May is threatening that, they will be laughing, she has no legs to

stand on. She doesn't even have a Conservative majority Government, so

he is going to Europe, throwing her weight round, talking about being a

bloody difficult woman and you you, you know, no deal is better than a

bad deal. They are saying fine, off you go then. They have all the cards

now, so... And her points are saying with the DUP negotiations, she ended

up giving them a billion pounds. Now other ministers are haggling over

that money for schools and education and it was no problem to give them

that and fly them back on the RAF flight from London to Belfast, mine,

don't get me started! Also, on the sort of post-Brexit Sunday express

saying no foreign fishing in our water, Brexit bonus, Britain takes

back control of the coasts. So this is other countries not able to fish

within 12 miles of UK... We shouldn't overstate the economic

impact this will have. It doesn't account for a huge amount of the

fishing that happens in British water, we are talking about single

digits. It is a significant move. I don't mean to down play it. We

should put it in the proper context. It is an interesting move. It is

parliament of the broader Brexit negotiation. It won't happen

tomorrow, but as and when it happens, this is all the various,

you know, as we were talking about in the EU election, so the Brexit

cap page -- campaign, there is is a litany of... This was signed in

1964, before Britain joined the... This is one of those things where

there is all kinds of agreement in which the eau is directly or

otherwise involved. I cannot wrap my head round the sheer size of what is

going to happen. I would say the Sunday Express is a great flag waver

for Brexit, this is classic symbolic Britannia rules the waves territory,

you know, the seas, it is a very important emblem for our power we

once had which we no longer have, the way in which we dominated --

dominated the world, for certain people, the resonance of that is

still very important, and to say we are going to take back control of

the 12 mile zone, it sound great but you are right, the numbers aren't

going to add up to much. Symbolically it is important. This

story that seems to be bubbling away there is a volt within the Tory

party, within the Cabinet, even, against austerity, really, in the

wake of the election, what do you make of that? We are talking earlier

a billion pounds here or there, sooner or later we are talking about

real money. Some serious ministries are asking for more money. We are

talking about health, education, Damian Green was quoted last night

in which he said we might have to rethink the tuition fee situation

and university, I can't remember which paper say that is estimated to

be ?8 billion. This is a lot of money along with the 1 billion for

Northern Ireland, all of a sudden we are talking about serious... From a

Tory strategy point of view, is this the best way of deflating Labour and

Jeremy Corbyn, if they do ease up on austerity, do they take some of the

wind out of Labour's sails The Observer has an interesting poll in

which they were talking about April 19th, only about a little more than

two months ago. Theresa May had a net positive... A lifetiming a. Plus

21, Jeremy Corbyn negative 35. Now, Theresa May negative 20, Jeremy

Corbyn plus four and Labour has a six point lead in the polls. The

Tories in their arrogant way, thought you know, we will call an

election and have 150 seat majority, they didn't take account of the fact

that Corbyn was a brilliant campaigner and Theresa May was a

terrible campaigner, so, the result of that is that they are struggling

now, to keep up, that the wind is in Corbyn's sails to use another

nautical reference and you go to cricket matches, people are chanting

oh Jeremy Corbyn, Glastonbury, he has become a cult, and the Tories

seem completely lost how to respond that. I have got three daughters who

are students and you know, they said they didn't have to talk to Tory

students very long to convince them to vote Labour because he was

offering to remove tuition fees, I mean that is an obvious thing to do.

You are right Damian Green is flagging up that even that flagship

Tory policy may be ending. Let talks about that since you nicely take us

on to that. The tuition fee. Are they really plans, the Mail on

Sunday saying Theresa May ready to consider a dramatic U-turn on

tuition fees to woo young voters back, but surely that won't mean

scrapping tuition fees in the way Labour have suggested. Everything is

up for grab, it seems like it. You know, there have been several

interviews that show the result of the election mean the Government is

not the strongest position. People coming for money, maybe it leads to

vote. We don't know which one could, Theresa May, leave aside the Brexit

thing, which is already complicated, domestically this is is a whole host

of issues in which every minister must be banging down the door asking

for Mormon. It shows the power of the youth vote in the election,

which was, had never really been harnessed before, young voters

registering and voting Labour. What was fascinating in the EU referendum

only 40% of 18-25-year-olds voted. In the last election, a couple of

weeks ago it was 70%, and people like my daughters and their

generation were getting out the vote. They are calling themselves

generation vote, social media was important. Labour did lots of funny

memes and pictures they were putting o to encourage young people to

engage. It is great the next generation is becoming involved with

politics because somebody has to take over this country, when we move

on, and I do think this all plays into the total lack of authority

that Theresa May has now, I mean people might complain we didn't vote

for the removal of tuition fee, we didn't vote for the DUP to get ?1.5

million. As you say all bets are off now and they will do anything to

cling to power. The power of that youth vote, tuition fees is a

crucial issue. We can recall about 2025 were tuition fees were raised

or implemented for British voter, round then, that was a hugely

controversial policy at the time and there were so many defectors from

Labour rank, this is a political issue that has destroyed political

careers. Nick Clegg, what is he remember for? A U-turn. And for

2,000 odd Sheffield Hallam students rising up against him and make his

lose his seats. You are right, that is what he is most remember for,

betraying Liberal Democrats about student tuition fees. Revenge is a

dish served cold. Let us move on the something different. The Sunday

Times have a story about a rogue SAS unit accused of executing sieve rans

in Afghanistan. We have to say the Ministry of Defence has said that

they have disputeded this story, we have to make that clear, but the

Sunday Times has some interesting allegations, that have been

apparently compiled by the Royal Military Police, about certain

things that the SAS was doing in Afghanistan, they talk about special

forces soldiers are alleged to have handcuffed and shot prisoners. It

did not need to be investigated. This is really remarkable. We will

have to see the result as it comes through, according to the Sunday

Times it has been curtailed, there is not much we can... It is a sort

of operation, a police investigation called Operation North Moore It has

been going on for a year half from a secure bunker in Cornwall. It is

amazing it has got to this degree and not many of us knew about it. I

absolutely agree Prashant, it could be serious, for the MoD and the

suggestions are they want to just make it go away, because if any of

these allegations, and they are only allegations are proven, it is

catastrophic for the army's credibility. Sunday Times have got a

story about parents facing a ?60 fine if their kids are late for

school. Is that fair snuff? Enough? This is a case of do as I say not do

as I do. First of all, the story quotes the government's behaviour

Zaha. Who knew he existed. Several councils are sort of canning the

idea of fines if pupils are late but the behaviours are Tom Bennett

admits he was late for school every day studying for A-levels. I would

have been several thousand pounds in debt to the school when my children

were growing up. It very hard to get three children out of the house,

well, is not but I am saying it is, but what scares me is the possible

sanctions they are going to bring in, make children collect litter,

remove chewing Garry Monk gum or mop classroom floor, measures used in

South Korea, maybe we should be copying it! I am sure no-one is late

for school in South Korea. Back to the Sundayel graph. They have a

Grenfell council, the Government warning Kensington and Chelsea

Council, couldn't taken over by commissioners, and it has been so

criticised. We were talking about this earlier, this is a tragedy,

everyone is right to say so, but, the response to what happened has

been astonish, the kind of thing, this Tory says, that some of the

families were evacuated, they were, charged rent on their flats. Are Are

still being charged rent. Etch though there is no hot water. I Noah

to say. I think I reflects badly on the sense of entitlement certain

political leaders have. I mean, I deplored the manner in which

Nicholas Paget-Brown resigned yesterday. He got the resignation

wrong, he was so tone deaf, completely grudging he seemed to me

and without dignity and he used the phrase which may have been provided

by lawyers perceived fail, you know my perception of that phrase is it

is really offensive to the victims and their family, those may well be

the same lawyers that gave him the great advice not the let the press

into the Cabinet meeting on Thursday, which ultimately

precipitating his downfall. There has been no council in the country

could have coped with the disaster on this scale. That may be true.

People have cited Camden Council. The leader has been out and about,

knocking on the doors of the people that they were evacuating, making

her presence felt. Nobody has seen Nicholas Paget-Brown and his cabinet

seem to have gone into hiding. I don't know if that is true. That is

the reports that no-one has seen him and in this world it is all about

perceptions and image, and the perception is they have failed

miserably. OK, let us go on to rugby. Well, are you rugby people? I

am a massive fan. You will have to take this over. I had five friend

over yesterday morning, and my wife, who had had a bit of a late-night on

Friday and my youngest daughter were upstairs and by 8.45, ten minutes

after kick off, they had been woken up three times by our shouting. In

the end they came down to watch, they said o we can't sleep through

this. The shouting, all over the country for people watching was

amazing, because the, to give you some of the stats, the All Blacks

have not lost at home since 2009. They were playing with a man down.

He deserved to go off, he did a shoulder charge on a defenceless

man. I think it is a one of the great British and Irish victories

and oh my gosh f you thought the shouting was loud yesterday, wait

till next Saturday, the decider. He is going to come round to your house

and watch it with you. It sound like a good party. I think I am going to

come. It is only tea and cake we have. The doctor won't see you now,

family doctors will be able to turn away all but life-or-death patients.

It goes backs to something the Health Secretary said where the NHS

needs, seems to need more money. I everything is stretched, everything

seems to be, you know, increasingly under pressure and so, NHS practises

may have to think in more creative ways how best to allocate resources

until the funding situation is resolved. What it indicates to me,

not only the people are fed up with austerity, the minutesters are fed

up with it. They are getting criticism -- ministers. Their

services are failing and they are saying, they may well be say we are

giving the DUP one billion, why can't we give to it the NHS and

school? Nurses get a 1% pay rise, that is outrageous, a what they do

is astonishing, their pay is capped is disgraceful. If one of buy

Borough Councils of this election disaster for the Tories is they lift

austerity hooray. Andy Murray, we have done rugby, can we do tennis? I

am not a huge fan but there is few things better than the English

summer for sport. Cricket, tennis. Do you think Andy Murray can do it

again. He has a bad hip. My worry is he overturns the idea of the great

British loser, we have prided ourselves on being gallant loser,

and now he is winning, I mean, our heads are so messed up. It is the

hope that kills us. Good luck to Sir Andy, thank you to both of you.

Many thanks for be with us. We will take a look at tomorrow's front

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