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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the journalist Dina

Hamdy and broadcaster David Davies.

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Tomorrow's front pages,

starting with...

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The i, which leads with the tributes

paid to the former Welsh

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government minister,

Carl Sargeant, who was found dead

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after facing allegations,

from a number of women,

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about his personal conduct.

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Staying with the same story,

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The Metro details how

the 49-year-old father of two had

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been unaware of the details

of the claims made against him.

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The Telegraph goes with the fallout

following the International

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Development Secretary,

Priti Patel's unsanctioned meetings

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with Israeli politicians

during a private holiday

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over the summer.

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Eating too much sugar could speed up

the progress and severity

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of Alzheimer's according

to new research, that's

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on the Daily Express front page.

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The Financial Times leads with a

warning from Wall Street banker to

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the US commerce Secretary that a

slow Brexit could force them to

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start moving jobs out of the city.

The Times goes with the claims that

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two Labour run councils are using

offshore companies to avoid paying

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millions of pounds in tax. The

Guardian leads with more revelations

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from the Paradise Papers detailing

how the Prince of Wales's private

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estate secretly invested in a

friend's environmental firm in

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Bermuda and the Daily Mail details

how a mother who posted propaganda

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to a so-called Islamic State group

on social media was spared jail

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after the judge took pity on her

five children.

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Before we talk about some of those

front pages, a line from Laura

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Kuenssberg, our political editor,

which will be relevant to the

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discussion, and she says that

sources have suggested to the BBC

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that Priti Patel is in deep trouble.

Number ten is examining new

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revelations about her meetings

overseas tonight. The minister and

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Theresa May have apparently not

spoken this evening and that will

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appear in a tweet that Laura has

security, but suggestions she has

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been fired are not correct at this

point in time. That is what Laura

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Kuenssberg is saying about relations

between number ten and the

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International Development Secretary.

There may be further developments in

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the hours to come. Priti Patel of

course has left the country because

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she is going on business to Uganda

so she did not appear in the Commons

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earlier when opposition MPs were

demanding further comments from her.

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With both David and Dina we will

start with that issue. The front of

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the Telegraph, they are leading us

where Laura Kuenssberg was

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indicating.

Absolutely, and as Priti

Patel's International development

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colleague, Alistair Burt, said in

the Commons this afternoon, she is

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in the air. And she was literally in

the air at that time, earlier than

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expected, she managed to get out of

the country. That is where she has

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gone and she is in Africa and

getting on with the job. But looking

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at these stories tonight, yes, Priti

Patel is in deep trouble, you would

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have to say that and you would

expect a denoument when she gets

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back. But it's not only her, the

government looks in deep trouble

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tonight.

And the Daily Telegraph,

clearly a Conservative supporting

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newspaper, is not pulling back on

this?

No and I think they shouldn't.

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Frankly nobody knows more what Priti

Patel or Boris Johnson need to do to

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be sacked. This week has been

extraordinary. She has scheduled

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meetings without telling the Foreign

Office or the ambassador in Israel,

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or indeed the Prime Minister has

gone leaving her in the dark when

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she met Netanyahu last week. It

extraordinary that this has

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happened, and she lied about it

initially to the papers before

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finally admitting that she has had

these meetings. And now we discover

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that a lobbyist was also present in

these meetings. The point I would

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like to make is that both the

blunders of Patel and Boris Johnson,

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if I may bring him into the

equation, are to do with the middle

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East at a time when the region is on

the brink of a showdown perhaps

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between Saudi Arabia and Iran is not

an outright war. As you can find out

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from the Financial Times story here.

Let me get to that a little bit

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later if I may because I want to

stay with the Conservative Party for

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a moment because inside The times,

you brought them together, Priti

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Patel and Boris Johnson, both

brought together because of the

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difficulties they face.

I am sure

the conspiracy theorists will point

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out that both Boris and pretty Patel

were leading members of the Brexit

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campaign Battle Priti Patel. Putting

that aside for the time being, you

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referred to the inside page, "Patel

led lobby group chief sit in on

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secret Israel talks". She has been

accused of breaching the ministerial

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code on several occasions now. This

was Lord Pollock, honorary friends

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of the Conservative friends of

Israel, who set up 12 meetings for

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the international the relevant

secretary during her family holiday.

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That would have been quite a family

holiday with 12 meetings! One

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wonders how long the holiday was.

Less time for the beach!

Not much

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time for those very nice beaches in

Israel but anyway, there it is. As

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far as Boris is concerned...

This is

to do with the fact he had to go

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before the Commons today after he

spoke last week in front of a

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committee of MPs with reference to

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe who is

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currently in prison in Iran.

I was

thinking, if I said to you, what are

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the attributes that a Foreign

Secretary, the successors to Lord

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Palmerston and Lord Salisbury and

Douglas Hurd and Lord Carrington,

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those sorts of figures, what are

those attributes? You talk about

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diplomacy and resilience and tact

and command of detail, reputation

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abroad. You would have to ask how

many of those attributes would the

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present Foreign Secretary have.

None.

I think that is pretty harsh.

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He has resilience! But it is a

different style.

At least he showed

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up.

I was going to say, he did show

up and in terms of what Iran as said

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in response to what he said, the

reading is that it might have taken

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the pressure off him.

Yes, but we

have to remember that they did haul

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Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe to an

extraordinary court hearing just to

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tell her that what was Boris Johnson

said was adamant prove...

Because

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she may have been training

journalists was what he said.

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Exactly. And maybe endangering her

further and extending her prison

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sentence further when it should be

the last thing he does.

Is there a

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job in government where language

matters more?

No.

That is why the

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reading of it is so important. In

the Guardian, this is a tragic story

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of Carl Sargent in Wales.

It is very

hard to know what to say about this,

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apart from I don't envy his family,

they must be in a really terrible

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state at the minute. His position,

his reputation has gone down the

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drain, and he is now dead, all in

one week. It must be a lot for a

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family and his children to take on.

And the allegations, we don't know

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what they were...

Interesting to

hear the reaction of Jeremy Corbyn

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when he said that actually

everybody, in any way, on whatever

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side, dragged into these allegations

from any of this nature, they need

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pastoral care and you need to

consider that whatever the truth.

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But it is an enormous human tragedy.

Let me go to two stories on the

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front of the Financial Times. You

mentioned one that I will come true

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in a moment but take us to Wall

Street, David.

Brexit has been

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having a few days off from most of

the front pages! But here it is in

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the FT and we are told that a group

of financial institutions with big

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London operations led by Wall

Street's banks have told the US

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commerce Secretary who is in the

country at the moment that Britain's

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unstable government has slowed

progress in Brexit planning and that

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might force them to start moving

thousands of jobs out of the city in

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the near future. Again, echoes of

the referendum campaign and all the

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rest of it. There is no doubt that

this deadline that has been set of

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March 2019 is now starting to

concentrate minds in a very real way

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and you can't just click your

fingers and move people from one

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part of Europe to another.

I suppose

when this appears I feel duty bound

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to feel that the FT did not want

Britain to leave the European Union

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in the first place.

Absolutely right

and they would seize on this sort of

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story, but there is a feeling that

there is real concern about, on the

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one hand, the instability of the

government, and on the other hand,

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the apparent lack of progress in the

talks.

And also Brussels have said

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that because of the uncertainty with

the government, if they don't agree

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on the first phase of negotiations

by December, they are not going to

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move onto the second they don't

expect to now with everything going

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on.

And that is with those three key

points before you start talking

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about trade. You mentioned Saudi

fleetingly. I will let you go there

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now!

Thank you! What I want to say,

the reason why the mistakes made by

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Boris Johnson and Priti Patel this

week are significant in my point of

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view is because they are both

related to the Middle East at a time

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when it is in turmoil. The backdrop

is obviously the Crown Prince's move

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by rounding up members of the Royal

family and major businessmen in

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alleged anti-corruption crackdowns.

In effect, many people have seen

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this as a power grab as well as a

wealth grab potentially. It already

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had repercussions on Lebanon, it

will have repercussions on the Gulf

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as mentioned here, Kuwait, Abu

Dhabi, Iraq and Bahrain are going to

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feel the chill financially so to

speak. It is all connected at a very

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critical time for the region and the

last thing you can do is afford to

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make mistakes.

I don't think people

in this country realise what is

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going on in a 5-star, or is it six

start or seven start, Hotel in

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Riyadh at the moment. Some of these

immensely wealthy people who've been

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rounded up and they are sleeping on

mattresses on the floor, admittedly,

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of this posh hotel.

It is quite

unprecedented.

Without access to

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lawyers or allegedly their phones.

It is a who's who in Saudi Arabia.

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And it has barely been mentioned.

I

am glad we highlighted it. Going

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back to the Daily Telegraph, this is

what to do that could do with Mary

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Porter 's -- Merhi Portas was trying

to do to the high street but is not.

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And not just her, David Cameron,

that was the call from him, save our

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high streets. Here comes Saint Merhi

Portas to do it for us. -- Mary

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She was going to save all these town

centres. But now it seems to have

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all faded away and she is saying,

hey, there was an awful lot of fluff

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around this but not enough money.

And also we are shopping online so

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much.

Yes.

One more from the

Telegraph? I think so. Twitter plays

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the long game with 280 character

limit. Do you wish to tweet at

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greater length?

Not really! I have

drifted off it recently.

I am

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worried about Twitter because a few

years ago it was the coming thing

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and I'm worried it has lost

momentum. This is a way, I assume,

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to try to get some of that momentum

back but its strength was always its

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brevity. And so if you lose the

specialists, you lose the very point

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of it.

Brevity is the key at this

point as well.

And it's finally that

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everybody is waiting to see what

President Trump is going to do with

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the extra characters! God help us

all!

Thank you very much. That is it

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tonight. You can see the front pages

of the papers online on the BBC News

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website and if you miss the

programme any evening you can watch

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it later on the iPlayer. Thank you

to Dina and David, and goodbye.

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