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a very high standing in the rest of
the world. That was Alex Forsyth, | 0:00:00 | 0:00:02 | |
our political correspondent, with
the Prime Minister in Jordan. Now, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
the Papers... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:14 | |
With me are Laura Hughes,
political correspondent | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
at the Daily Telegraph,
and political | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
commentator Lance Price. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Welcome to you both. We will look at
the front pages. There is widespread | 0:00:28 | 0:00:36 | |
reporting that a deal on Brexit has
been struck, at the moment. But | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
let's bring you up-to-date with the
front pages. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
The divorce deal for
Brexit is reached, reads | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
the Metro's front page. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
The FT claims the UK has bowed
to the EU's demands on the size | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
of the Brexit divorce bill. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
The Telegraph also leads with
the agreement on the Brexit bill. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
There is also a picture with Meghan
Markle, and has a buzzard | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
matchmaker. The i says the reported
Brexit deal is close, whereas the | 0:01:01 | 0:01:08 | |
Times see the -- says the UK will be
paying EU bills for years to come. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:17 | |
This one in the Guardian, £50
billion divorce Bill. And the | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
suggestion that David Davis might be
a matchmaker for the royal wedding! | 0:01:20 | 0:01:27 | |
The Express suggests there's a rise
in diabetes sufferers | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
also developing cancer. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:35 | |
Laura, Lance, welcome to both.
Laura, I start with you. It was the | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
Telegraph that began at all this
evening with the reports suggesting | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
a deal had been reached. Let's look
at the front page first of all. Talk | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
us through it. Yesterday my
colleague Peter Foster over in | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
Brussels got the story and it is a
massive moment, obviously. I think | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
it shows that the Prime Minister is
very determined to get Britain to a | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
place where in December we come to
some sort of agreement with the EU | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
and move onto trade talks, and that
is the priority. Some papers have | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
taken the stance that Britain has
caved in the EU demands and it is | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
interesting to the Prime Minister
has gone ahead and this figure is | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
significantly higher than the one
she proposed in her Florence speech | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and this might upset a lot of Tory
Eurosceptics. The FT have an | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
interesting line in their story,
that we will never actually know the | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
final cost of the Brexit bill
because it will be paid out in | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
increments and not in one big lump
sum, so we will only know when the | 0:02:31 | 0:02:38 | |
last citizen entitled to an EU
pension has died. That is a long | 0:02:38 | 0:02:44 | |
wait, Lance! An argument in
Parliament today about not | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
disclosing all the information, and
presumably this would even exist if | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
it is that far down the line? Yes,
that has been part of the problem | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
all the way along. Britain has
signed up during our membership of | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
the EU to all sorts of things that
are variables. We don't know exactly | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
what the bill will be, but what is
interesting, as Laura says, and the | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
papers have a slightly different
take, the relatively loyal Daily | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
Telegraph talks about Britain and
the EU agreeing whereas the | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Financial Times basically a Remainer
paper, says Britain has bowed to EU | 0:03:16 | 0:03:28 | |
demands and it is pretty clear that
Britain had made all the | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
concessions, have agreed to pretty
much everything the EU was asking | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
for, but they are now talking about
how they can present that to look | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
like less of a headline figure than
it would otherwise be, keeping in | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
mind it could come back the other
way. And in a previous life he | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
worked in Downing Street and you
understand the importance of kind of | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
managing stories, particularly
controversial ones. | 0:03:49 | 0:04:00 | |
What do you make of the suggestion,
the EU will talk up the figure and | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Britain will talk it down? Will that
be convincing? Actually I don't | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
think that is what will happen
because I think the EU will make it | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
easier for Britain on this point, so
if Britain wants to talk it down and | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
say the total figure will not
actually be that much, there is | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
money coming back, and so on and so
forth, the pound is weaker, and | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
other things to enable them to
reduce the headline figure, the EU | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
and a couple of EU officials have
said that in the Financial Times, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
that's fine, let them say it is
less, and basically they have agreed | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
to everything they asked. Because
this is just one of the sticking | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
point and there are another two big
hurdles we need to cross. And Irish | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
border. That's right. The court of
justice in guaranteeing EU citizens' | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
right after Brexit, and I think the
main issue at the moment is Ireland | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
and demands for there not to be a
return to the hard border and there | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
is chaos going on in Northern
Ireland's parliament, chaos going on | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
in Ireland today. No Northern
Ireland parliament at all at the | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
moment. A massive sticking point,
and we have the DUP making points, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
the prop up the government, because
Theresa May failed to secure a | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
majority, so suddenly they are very
influential and what is it really | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
matters. It was always much easier
to settle on the money side because | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
you could make concessions, whereas
on the border between Northern | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
Ireland and the republic, it is much
harder because basically Britain is | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
asking for two irreconcilable
things. The whole of the UK comes | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
out of the customs union and the
Single Market and there is no hard | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
border with the rest of the EU. You
have to get the Government of | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Ireland to consent to this,
effectively for the talks to move | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
on. Every single EU member state has
a veto. It is interesting because | 0:05:33 | 0:05:39 | |
many papers have done this, looking
briefly at the i's front page. The | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
deal is close, sort of hedging their
bets, really. It is closer. Still | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
not a done deal and we are told that
perhaps will not be until next week. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Next week. There are suggestions
people are sitting round the table | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
trying to put together some sort of
truth document, shared ideals where | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
they can come out and say, look,
here it is in black and white, we | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
have all agreed, happy families,
let's move on. Lance another story | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
on the front of the Financial Times
which is in many ways as | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
interesting, about the ability of
our banks to cope with Brexit. Yes, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
and it is the Bank of England who
are now stress test the banks. After | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
the financial crisis the banks now
have to prove to the Bank of England | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
they can withstand pressures that
may come, and what is interesting is | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
the way in which they have gone
about this process, because they | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
have made various assumptions about
what could happen if the Brexit | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
associations go badly and there is a
hard Brexit, and it includes things | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
like a fall in house prices,
unemployment at 9%, a drop in gross | 0:06:41 | 0:06:47 | |
domestic product, and 4.7%.
Calamitous figures which the Bank of | 0:06:47 | 0:06:54 | |
England are building into their
assumptions, their are worst-case | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
assumptions basically on what could
happen if it all goes badly wrong. I | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
can hear cry from the Eurosceptics.
They just can't get over it! Well, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
they said it was likely there would
be this kind of Brexit, and they | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
think the banks will be able to cope
and I think it is at liberty | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
response would ask them to put some
money aside. We all need to put some | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
money aside, don't we? You never
know what is right the corner -- I | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
think it is actually responsible for
them to ask for money to be put | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
aside. This one, trying to make the
university sector more competitive, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
to seek you need to go out and
attract more foreign students, need | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
to be a bit more entrepreneurial.
Part of the deal of that vice | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
chancellors became rather like chief
executives. And now the woman who | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
has become the target of this row
about how much the error has | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
announced she is off. Yes, she has
suffered from a change of the | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
weather on all of this -- about how
much the errant has announced she | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
is. -- how much they earn. Wages did
seem to be extraordinary. When this | 0:07:56 | 0:08:06 | |
is Professor Dame Glynis Breakwell
who was earning £468,000 a year. -- | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
and this is. Again, there is spin on
the figures, so the university are | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
trying to suggest she has not had a
payoff but actually add up the fact | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
that you will not go until August,
she has another six month after | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
that... On full day. Full PEI, saw
her critics, of which there are | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
many, say she is getting up old the
buyer of about £600,000 which is not | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
too bad. Is this an fair? I think it
could be seen is that when you think | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
of the debt students are taking on
themselves -- is this unfair? I | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
mean, I wonder if the coverage is on
fear, she is one particular woman. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
Yes, but people in the public sector
have their wages frozen -- I mean I | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
wonder if the coverage is unfair.
Someone must awarded to her at the | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
University. Exactly, and she has not
rejected it, but accepted it, which | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
you could argue was normal,
Oliveira, but the former Education | 0:09:03 | 0:09:11 | |
Secretary has been very bulk of --
very vocal on this. Lance, you will | 0:09:11 | 0:09:19 | |
know this, the questioning of
whether the whole tuition fees model | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
something to be looked at. It is
interesting that all the three main | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
parties seem to have gone one way or
another over this, and a relatively | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
short at the time. The whole issue
of how we fund our universities is | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
very much open for discussion now.
And I think all parties would agree | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
on this as well. We do want
first-class universities, and you | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
have to find out how to pay that and
how to find the best. This was | 0:09:43 | 0:09:49 | |
unsurprising yesterday. The Daily
Express, Harry and Meghan 's wedding | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
announcement yesterday, a picture of
St George's Chapel on the front | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
page, and that story about diabetes.
Now this is quite interesting, isn't | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
it, Laura? Two different
alternatives. I was being a bit | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
flippant mentioning David Davis as a
possible matchmaker for the royal | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
couple. It can't be both of these.
We have the front page first of all | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
of the Telegraph which shows Meghan
Markle hugging a friend of hers, so | 0:10:14 | 0:10:24 | |
she is one matchmaker. Yes, and the
Telegraph sport ended she did not | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
deny she was indeed the matchmaker,
so we do have an actual | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
non-redaction from her -- Telegraph
spoke to her and she did not deny. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
In the world of journalism, it
means, well, the obviously did it, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
didn't they? So journalss often work
with slightly different | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
interpretations of the English
language than the rest of the world! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
-- journalists often work with. And
this other woman, we were discussing | 0:10:47 | 0:10:53 | |
how to pronounce her surname... Is
Misha wants to contact first night | 0:10:53 | 0:11:00 | |
we are happy to be given advice on
pronunciation. The bad news for both | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
of them of course is that whatever
happens now, Meghan Markle can't | 0:11:03 | 0:11:10 | |
wear either of their outfits on the
wedding day. You are right! And, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:18 | |
yes, it doesn't matter, does it? In
the greater scheme of things, but it | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
is good both of the papers have gone
for completely different people. Has | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
someone been winding them up? I
wrote for Violet because I don't see | 0:11:25 | 0:11:34 | |
any sourcing for this front page.
But it is a lovely picture. Yes, and | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
a lovely story. How much of the
energy and effort do you think of | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
journalists over the coming six
months will be spent on Meghan | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Markle and Prince Harry? Do you
think she quite knows what she has | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
letters of M4? I think she does,
yes. She is obviously as very canny | 0:11:50 | 0:11:56 | |
woman and he will have told her, you
do realise what this will mean? And | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
I am sure she will have spoken to
Kate, and she... I think she's going | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
in with her eyes wide open -- do you
think she knows what she has let | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
herself in for? And all the coverage
are around when it was announced | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
they were going out on the first
place, people were digging then, and | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
it is unlikely to much... There are
rarely signs she will do this on her | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
own terms. Which is quite important.
I think the public would respect | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
that. Absolutely. I think we have to
end on story that has made the front | 0:12:26 | 0:12:32 | |
of the Telegraph, not on the other
front pages yet but I have a | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
suspicion it is going to be, and
this is the decision made to promote | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
one great British product, nothing
to do with Brexit! Nothing to do | 0:12:38 | 0:12:47 | |
with any other story. Completely
unconnected with this newspaper | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
review. We are told Viagra is to be
sold in chemists, so you don't have | 0:12:49 | 0:12:57 | |
to get a prescription from your
doctor, but of course you do still | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
have to go into a chemist and have
that slightly embarrassing | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
discussion with the pharmacist, so
much difference this will likely | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
make... Intriguing to see whether it
will eliminate the problem of people | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
buying things that are not really
what they claim to be online because | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
they are a bit too embarrassed to
admit they it. Especially when it is | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
available for men over the age of
18, so we were wondering whether or | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
not perhaps the odd stag do might be
livened up by something that was | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
obtained from the pharmacist.
Indeed. I think we will leave it | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
there are! Laura Hughes, and Lance
Price. Thank you all very much for | 0:13:32 | 0:13:40 | |
joining us on the Papers tonight. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Don't forget you can see the front
pages of the papers online | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
on the BBC News website. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
It's all there for you - seven days
a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
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