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a very high standing in the rest of

the world.

That was Alex Forsyth,

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our political correspondent, with

the Prime Minister in Jordan. Now,

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the Papers...

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With me are Laura Hughes,

political correspondent

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at the Daily Telegraph,

and political

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commentator Lance Price.

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Welcome to you both. We will look at

the front pages. There is widespread

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reporting that a deal on Brexit has

been struck, at the moment. But

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let's bring you up-to-date with the

front pages.

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The divorce deal for

Brexit is reached, reads

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the Metro's front page.

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The FT claims the UK has bowed

to the EU's demands on the size

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of the Brexit divorce bill.

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The Telegraph also leads with

the agreement on the Brexit bill.

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There is also a picture with Meghan

Markle, and has a buzzard

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matchmaker. The i says the reported

Brexit deal is close, whereas the

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Times see the -- says the UK will be

paying EU bills for years to come.

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This one in the Guardian, £50

billion divorce Bill. And the

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suggestion that David Davis might be

a matchmaker for the royal wedding!

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The Express suggests there's a rise

in diabetes sufferers

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also developing cancer.

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Laura, Lance, welcome to both.

Laura, I start with you. It was the

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Telegraph that began at all this

evening with the reports suggesting

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a deal had been reached. Let's look

at the front page first of all. Talk

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us through it.

Yesterday my

colleague Peter Foster over in

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Brussels got the story and it is a

massive moment, obviously. I think

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it shows that the Prime Minister is

very determined to get Britain to a

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place where in December we come to

some sort of agreement with the EU

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and move onto trade talks, and that

is the priority. Some papers have

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taken the stance that Britain has

caved in the EU demands and it is

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interesting to the Prime Minister

has gone ahead and this figure is

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significantly higher than the one

she proposed in her Florence speech

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and this might upset a lot of Tory

Eurosceptics. The FT have an

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interesting line in their story,

that we will never actually know the

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final cost of the Brexit bill

because it will be paid out in

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increments and not in one big lump

sum, so we will only know when the

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last citizen entitled to an EU

pension has died.

That is a long

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wait, Lance! An argument in

Parliament today about not

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disclosing all the information, and

presumably this would even exist if

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it is that far down the line?

Yes,

that has been part of the problem

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all the way along. Britain has

signed up during our membership of

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the EU to all sorts of things that

are variables. We don't know exactly

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what the bill will be, but what is

interesting, as Laura says, and the

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papers have a slightly different

take, the relatively loyal Daily

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Telegraph talks about Britain and

the EU agreeing whereas the

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Financial Times basically a Remainer

paper, says Britain has bowed to EU

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demands and it is pretty clear that

Britain had made all the

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concessions, have agreed to pretty

much everything the EU was asking

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for, but they are now talking about

how they can present that to look

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like less of a headline figure than

it would otherwise be, keeping in

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mind it could come back the other

way.

And in a previous life he

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worked in Downing Street and you

understand the importance of kind of

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managing stories, particularly

controversial ones.

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What do you make of the suggestion,

the EU will talk up the figure and

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Britain will talk it down? Will that

be convincing?

Actually I don't

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think that is what will happen

because I think the EU will make it

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easier for Britain on this point, so

if Britain wants to talk it down and

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say the total figure will not

actually be that much, there is

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money coming back, and so on and so

forth, the pound is weaker, and

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other things to enable them to

reduce the headline figure, the EU

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and a couple of EU officials have

said that in the Financial Times,

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that's fine, let them say it is

less, and basically they have agreed

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to everything they asked.

Because

this is just one of the sticking

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point and there are another two big

hurdles we need to cross. And Irish

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border. That's right. The court of

justice in guaranteeing EU citizens'

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right after Brexit, and I think the

main issue at the moment is Ireland

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and demands for there not to be a

return to the hard border and there

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is chaos going on in Northern

Ireland's parliament, chaos going on

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in Ireland today.

No Northern

Ireland parliament at all at the

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moment.

A massive sticking point,

and we have the DUP making points,

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the prop up the government, because

Theresa May failed to secure a

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majority, so suddenly they are very

influential and what is it really

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matters.

It was always much easier

to settle on the money side because

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you could make concessions, whereas

on the border between Northern

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Ireland and the republic, it is much

harder because basically Britain is

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asking for two irreconcilable

things. The whole of the UK comes

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out of the customs union and the

Single Market and there is no hard

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border with the rest of the EU.

You

have to get the Government of

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Ireland to consent to this,

effectively for the talks to move

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on.

Every single EU member state has

a veto.

It is interesting because

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many papers have done this, looking

briefly at the i's front page. The

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deal is close, sort of hedging their

bets, really.

It is closer.

Still

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not a done deal and we are told that

perhaps will not be until next week.

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Next week. There are suggestions

people are sitting round the table

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trying to put together some sort of

truth document, shared ideals where

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they can come out and say, look,

here it is in black and white, we

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have all agreed, happy families,

let's move on. Lance

another story

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on the front of the Financial Times

which is in many ways as

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interesting, about the ability of

our banks to cope with Brexit.

Yes,

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and it is the Bank of England who

are now stress test the banks. After

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the financial crisis the banks now

have to prove to the Bank of England

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they can withstand pressures that

may come, and what is interesting is

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the way in which they have gone

about this process, because they

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have made various assumptions about

what could happen if the Brexit

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associations go badly and there is a

hard Brexit, and it includes things

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like a fall in house prices,

unemployment at 9%, a drop in gross

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domestic product, and 4.7%.

Calamitous figures which the Bank of

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England are building into their

assumptions, their are worst-case

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assumptions basically on what could

happen if it all goes badly wrong.

I

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can hear cry from the Eurosceptics.

They just can't get over it!

Well,

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they said it was likely there would

be this kind of Brexit, and they

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think the banks will be able to cope

and I think it is at liberty

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response would ask them to put some

money aside.

We all need to put some

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money aside, don't we? You never

know what is right the corner -- I

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think it is actually responsible for

them to ask for money to be put

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aside. This one, trying to make the

university sector more competitive,

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to seek you need to go out and

attract more foreign students, need

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to be a bit more entrepreneurial.

Part of the deal of that vice

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chancellors became rather like chief

executives. And now the woman who

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has become the target of this row

about how much the error has

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announced she is off.

Yes, she has

suffered from a change of the

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weather on all of this -- about how

much the errant has announced she

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is. -- how much they earn. Wages did

seem to be extraordinary. When this

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is Professor Dame Glynis Breakwell

who was earning £468,000 a year. --

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and this is. Again, there is spin on

the figures, so the university are

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trying to suggest she has not had a

payoff but actually add up the fact

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that you will not go until August,

she has another six month after

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that...

On full day.

Full PEI, saw

her critics, of which there are

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many, say she is getting up old the

buyer of about £600,000 which is not

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too bad.

Is this an fair?

I think it

could be seen is that when you think

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of the debt students are taking on

themselves -- is this unfair?

I

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mean, I wonder if the coverage is on

fear, she is one particular woman.

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Yes, but people in the public sector

have their wages frozen -- I mean I

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wonder if the coverage is unfair.

Someone must awarded to her at the

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University.

Exactly, and she has not

rejected it, but accepted it, which

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you could argue was normal,

Oliveira, but the former Education

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Secretary has been very bulk of --

very vocal on this.

Lance, you will

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know this, the questioning of

whether the whole tuition fees model

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something to be looked at. It is

interesting that all the three main

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parties seem to have gone one way or

another over this, and a relatively

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short at the time.

The whole issue

of how we fund our universities is

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very much open for discussion now.

And I think all parties would agree

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on this as well. We do want

first-class universities, and you

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have to find out how to pay that and

how to find the best.

This was

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unsurprising yesterday. The Daily

Express, Harry and Meghan 's wedding

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announcement yesterday, a picture of

St George's Chapel on the front

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page, and that story about diabetes.

Now this is quite interesting, isn't

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it, Laura? Two different

alternatives. I was being a bit

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flippant mentioning David Davis as a

possible matchmaker for the royal

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couple. It can't be both of these.

We have the front page first of all

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of the Telegraph which shows Meghan

Markle hugging a friend of hers, so

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she is one matchmaker.

Yes, and the

Telegraph sport ended she did not

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deny she was indeed the matchmaker,

so we do have an actual

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non-redaction from her -- Telegraph

spoke to her and she did not deny.

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In the world of journalism, it

means, well, the obviously did it,

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didn't they? So journalss often work

with slightly different

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interpretations of the English

language than the rest of the world!

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-- journalists often work with.

And

this other woman, we were discussing

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how to pronounce her surname...

Is

Misha wants to contact first night

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we are happy to be given advice on

pronunciation. The bad news for both

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of them of course is that whatever

happens now, Meghan Markle can't

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wear either of their outfits on the

wedding day.

You are right!

And,

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yes, it doesn't matter, does it? In

the greater scheme of things, but it

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is good both of the papers have gone

for completely different people. Has

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someone been winding them up?

I

wrote for Violet because I don't see

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any sourcing for this front page.

But it is a lovely picture.

Yes, and

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a lovely story.

How much of the

energy and effort do you think of

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journalists over the coming six

months will be spent on Meghan

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Markle and Prince Harry? Do you

think she quite knows what she has

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letters of M4?

I think she does,

yes. She is obviously as very canny

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woman and he will have told her, you

do realise what this will mean? And

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I am sure she will have spoken to

Kate, and she... I think she's going

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in with her eyes wide open --

do you

think she knows what she has let

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herself in for?

And all the coverage

are around when it was announced

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they were going out on the first

place, people were digging then, and

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it is unlikely to much...

There are

rarely signs she will do this on her

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own terms.

Which is quite important.

I think the public would respect

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that.

Absolutely.

I think we have to

end on story that has made the front

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of the Telegraph, not on the other

front pages yet but I have a

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suspicion it is going to be, and

this is the decision made to promote

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one great British product, nothing

to do with Brexit!

Nothing to do

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with any other story.

Completely

unconnected with this newspaper

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review.

We are told Viagra is to be

sold in chemists, so you don't have

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to get a prescription from your

doctor, but of course you do still

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have to go into a chemist and have

that slightly embarrassing

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discussion with the pharmacist, so

much difference this will likely

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make...

Intriguing to see whether it

will eliminate the problem of people

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buying things that are not really

what they claim to be online because

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they are a bit too embarrassed to

admit they it.

Especially when it is

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available for men over the age of

18, so we were wondering whether or

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not perhaps the odd stag do might be

livened up by something that was

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obtained from the pharmacist.

Indeed.

I think we will leave it

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there are! Laura Hughes, and Lance

Price. Thank you all very much for

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joining us on the Papers tonight.

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