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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are John Rentoul,

Chief Political Commentator

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at The Independent, and political

strategist Jo Tanner.

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She does appear on other paper

reviews but we won't mention them.

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Welcome to this one. And now to the

front pages.

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The Metro claims that the special

relationship between the US

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and the UK looks to be in jeopardy

following the row over Donald

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Trump's anti-muslim twitter posts.

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The FT says the Labour Leader,

Jeremy Corbyn has warned banks

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operating in the City of London,

that he would be a threat

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to their business if he

became Prime Minister.

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The Express leads on the medical

research which suggests that eating

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cheese could slash the risk

of heart disease.

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The I says British and American

diplomats are trying

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to repair the damage caused

by the public falling out between

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Donald Trump and Theresa May.

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The Mirror reports on the calls

to prosecute the US president

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for race hate over his tweets.

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The paper says the best response

would be to cancel his state visit.

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The Times reports that

Far-right group Britain First

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has been boasting of an increase

in support after Donald Trump

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re-tweeted the group's

anti-muslim videos.

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The Guardian covers the research

which has found that

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children as young as two

are being streamed on ability.

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And The Sun leads on two

of the army's 'hero hounds'

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which are facing being put down

because officials say

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they can't be rehomed.

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There is a lot of Donald Trump in

this review. As you might have

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guessed. We start with The Daily

Mirror, not wanted, it says, with

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the mock up of a Western poster.

Calls to cancel the state visit, but

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that won't happen?

This is the visit

that was presented to Donald Trump

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when Theresa May went on her visit

to meet him but I'm not sure we

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really ever thought this visit was

going to happen anyway. It has been

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put off and put off and not spoken

about and we have deliberately not

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wanted to organise a date, like

having one of those relatives you

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don't want to come to stay annual

really busy. -- and you're really

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busy.

That's not autobiographical,

of course.

Of course not! There is

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now a clamour to say that he

shouldn't be coming but actually I

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think there has been an effort to

dampen down the conversation about

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it even happening at all.

There was

the suggestion that there was

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indecent haste offering the state

visit in the first place, not

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letting him bed in and finding out

what kind of presidency it was going

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to be.

It was one of those decisions

of Theresa May's that has come back

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to bite her, but you could see her

reasoning. You want to get in there

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early and impress the new president

and you want to improve relations

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between Britain and America

especially because a Brexit, we are

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going to need a trade deal with

America. It has backfired rather

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spectacularly, and it is not as

simple as The Daily Mirror implies,

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to on invite him, because the Queen

has invited him as the head of

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state. He has accepted and therefore

it is quite awkward for the

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government to get the Queen to

disinvite him, that would not go

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down well.

It is head of state to

head of state, isn't it?

Yes, so the

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ideal solution is to keep putting

off the actual date. I don't think

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Donald Trump wants to come.

There

are suggestions that he was

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concerned there could be protests,

and if there weren't the

>> STUDIO:

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-- there weren't going to be then,

there certainly are now.

What about

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race crime?

I don't quite know how

that works, but no doubt that will

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be explained on further pages of The

Daily Mirror.

In America, the right

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to free speech, constitutional.

Yes.

Let's look at the i Paper comedy

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special in tatters, this is a bit

overwritten? -- i Paper, the special

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relationship in tatters.

Anything

which mentions the special

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relationship is overwritten, and we

don't have an especially good

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relationship with Donald Trump. He

likes Britain, his mother was

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Scottish.

He has a golf course.

But

it is more than that. The

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relationship between this country

and America will withstand this.

I

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hope so, yes.

This isn't the first

argument, there are historical

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items, difficulties between Thatcher

and Reagan is never got over them,

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and issues between Tony Blair and

Bill Clinton over Gerry Adams.

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Babies that was granted to him

before the peace process, I think

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for the -- a viz that was granted to

him. There have been issues before.

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This will be at the back of the

minds of politicians, the trade

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deal, although they have got to

speak out about things like these,

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the anti-Muslim videos, but they

will be thinking after Brexit, we

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have said our relationship with

America is going to be brilliant

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portable and they are going to give

us a great trade deal. -- brilliant

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and they are going to give us.

Well,

are they? Donald Trump's whole thing

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was protectionist and America first,

we were going to get much from him

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anyway, but you want to maintain the

relationship at the official level

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-- we weren't. These things take a

long time to negotiate a maybe

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Donald Trump won't be there for very

long.

The Daily Telegraph also has

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the Kop story, he will not visit the

UK in the foreseeable future -- the

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Trump story. He was going to come

here quite soon?

The idea is that

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after the initial visit offer had

been made and it was accepted, there

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was the suggestion it would be this

year and then it got, the narrative

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would be it would be around the new

US embassy opening and that would be

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the reason, some flagship event, but

I don't know, maybe that will...

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Maybe they have got to polish the

floor a bit more, maybe some

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gardening that needs to be done.

Maybe until our memories forget this

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latest episode.

Exactly. Theresa May

was in a bind, she had to say

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something about what he had put out

on Twitter.

She did, she was pretty

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forceful about it, saying it was

completely wrong. She wants to

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condemn it without drawing too much

attention to this awful group and

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giving them the oxygen and

publicity. She was as robust as she

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could be.

The language was very

specific, it was wrong of him, and

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Amber Rudd also repeated that in the

House of Commons, very specific

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language. It wasn't that Donald

Trump was wrong, it was wrong to

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have tweeted that, it was very

careful language. When the number

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ten official spokesperson mentioned

and answered this question, very

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soon afterwards it was reiterated

that they were speaking on behalf of

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the Prime Minister which is unusual,

they don't always do that, but it

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was made very clear that she was

very firm about her condemnation.

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The Ambassador of the United States

has made representations to the

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White House, but the idea that

Donald Trump did this without

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thinking about the consequences, do

you buy that?

Well, does he think

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about consequences? He knows how

this will play with his supporters

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in the states. This is just the way

he operates. He is like a teenager.

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There's something interesting, when

trees away

>> STUDIO: --

Theresa May

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was in the Middle East, that was

when another Donald Trump episode

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came out, and now again, almost as

if he has seen her diary.

And out to

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The Guardian, we have some pretty

pictures, which is great. Winter

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arrives with a flurry, lovely

picture.

Whitby, North Yorkshire.

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Looks absolutely beautiful.

Extremely cold even in London

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tonight.

We normally get away with

it a bit.

Outside here it was

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amazingly cold.

I want that at

Christmas, I have a nine-year old

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and I'm desperate for a white

Christmas, the magical thing that

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you grow up with, getting a white

Christmas, it is so rare.

I don't

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remember getting many when I was

growing up, even further north than

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this. It is beautiful, but not

always easy to navigate. We talk

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about it down here. It is easy for

us down in London, to get a

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smattering of snow everything it is

the end of the world, but other

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parts of the country, up in high

land, Scotland, the peaks, Northern

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Ireland...

I was on holiday last

year, the people said they lived

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much further north in northern parts

of Canada, and their idea of cold

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was the kind of stuff which I

thought they were making up numbers,

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that can't possibly happen?

Places

like Manitoba and Saskatchewan.

If

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it drops below freezing, we start to

panic, but that was nothing to them.

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Daily Express, another picture, the

snow chaos, which is a strange

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headline. And then, will it be a

white Christmas? It doesn't speak of

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Yuletide joy.

Yes, Yuletide joy,

drive your car off the road.

This

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was in Brompton, North Yorkshire.

Pretty grim.

It is all happening in

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North Yorkshire, and there was a

flurry in Westminster, as well.

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There was a flurry of snow when I

came out of Oxford Circus, I

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thought, but someone had sprinkled

something in the air, I felt conned.

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Not quite gold dust. Stardust. We

are going to the Financial Times

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next. Jeremy Corbyn lashes out at

big bank gamblers and speculators,

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not any bank.

He has gone after

Morgan Stanley, which had predicted

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snap elections next year and argued

the prospect is much more scary from

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the equity perspective than Brexit,

and they seem to argue in the report

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that a Jeremy Corbyn government

would mark the most significant

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political shift in the UK since

Margaret Thatcher and might pose a

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bigger risk than Brexit, so Jeremy

Corbyn has decided to lash out in

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return.

He doesn't like to be

compared to Brexit, clearly,

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although he might be a secret Brexit

supporter, although he said he voted

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to remain. If the banks are going to

have a go at him, he is not a fan of

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banks generally. And capitalism.

This time he has had a go at Morgan

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Stanley by name.

Who have Alistair

Darling on their board which is

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quite interesting, the former Labour

Chancellor. In the past, it has been

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a general anti-Wall Street sentiment

but this is particular.

Yes, this

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idea... This is all about he is

feeling bolstered after the

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election, feeling he can be a bit

more aggressive with his tone, but

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when, as Leader of the Opposition,

he sees a report like that which

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they put out, I'm not surprised in

the way he has responded.

This

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comment will play well with his

supporters.

This reinforces his

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brand. He is antiestablishment, he

is for change and he wants to tip

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everything over and start again, and

this kind of thing is gold dust. To

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him.

Were he to be in power, he

would realise that he needed the

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banks and had to create the right

environment for business.

You might

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know that. But...

You make him sound

like a sage, but that is the tussle

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for some parties.

Absolutely, even

in some of the language he uses, he

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said, when they say we are a threat,

they are right, we are the party of

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the many.

People will say that is

the politics of envy.

That is what

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the bank said.

Don't forget you can

see all of the front pages on the

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website.

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Online on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you -

seven days a week at

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bbc.co.uk/papers - and if you miss

the programme any

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evening you can watch it

later on BBC iPlayer

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Thank you, John and Jo.

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