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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the Evening Standard

columnist Rosamund Urwin

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and the Telegraph's women's editor,

Claire Cohen.

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I've let the side down with my lack

of sparkle and my drug choice of

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attire, I apologise -- drab choice.

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Tomorrow's front pages.

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The Observer reports that children

from poor families are more likely

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to need emergency treatment

for conditions like asthma

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and diabetes compared

to their wealthier counterparts.

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The Sunday Times says that

Theresa May will abandon a manifesto

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pledge to overturn the ban on fox

hunting in the new year.

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The Mail on Sunday details how

the British Army is spending

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millions of pounds of taxpayers'

money to scrap its 'Be

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the Best' motto, because

of fears it's elitist.

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Britain's christmas

food and drink exports

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are at all time high according

to the Sunday Express, with Brexit

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a main catalyst, the paper says.

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Staying with Brexit -

the Sunday Telegraph reports how

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Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have

criticised HMRC for placing large

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tax bills on individuals who donated

to the Leave campaign.

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We will start with the help story on

the Observer, huge health gap

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revealed between rich and poor,

where is the research coming from?

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From the Nuffield trust, the latest

in a series of NHS in crisis stories

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that appear this time of year, and

this is the child poverty gap

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increasing, children from poor

families more likely to spend time

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in A&E and it lists asthma and

diabetes as two of the reasons and

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they are 70% more likely to appear

in acts compared with their less

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deprived counterparts. Shocking

numbers.

It is the earlier years of

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your life rather than life

expectancy which we have reported

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many times.

One of the things which

comes out this asthma and much of

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that is related to air pollution and

the quality of the homes in which

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people are living and how close they

are to main roads. There have been a

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number of studies that show, in

London, for example, if you live in

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Tower Hamlets you are much more

likely to suffer from asthma

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compared to a richer borough, and

your score is more likely to be

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closer to main roads and so is your

home -- your school. So kids are

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playing in the playground and

breathing in horrible fumes. There

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are other lifestyle elements to come

into this, but this sets out the gap

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that is quite shocking. Something

that needs to be addressed.

Another

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example of the inequality gap that

apparently seems to be growing.

The

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almost feels like the NHS is going

backwards when it comes to child

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health, there is a tag line on the

front page of the Observer story,

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quoting a doctor saying he sees

Ricketts regularly, and we have had

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stories about scarlet fever coming

back and there was a whooping cough

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epidemic if it feels like we're

going back to a semi-Victorian age

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when it comes to child health.

Ricketts should not be seen in this

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country, although you do get this in

the developed world. It should not

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be happening in Britain.

Debuchy

plotted to discredit me -- deputy

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PM's allies parted to discredit me,

this is relating to the Damian Green

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story.

What is said here, some of

the material that was submitted to

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the white or inquiry which led to

the sacking of Damian Green last

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week -- Whitehall inquiry. There had

been negative supporters about her,

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and that actually was submitted to

the charge of the inquiry, the

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evidence is that they were

submitting things which were to

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discredit her.

It didn't work.

Even

the suggestion of a smear campaign

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against her is very unhelpful, it

takes a lot of bravery and gumption

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to come forward when something like

this has happened to you and she has

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said I think this weekend that she

did that because there were other

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women she knew who might have

similar complaints to make and other

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women who needed to speak out about

other people. To have that

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discredited when we are in the midst

of this harassment scandal, not just

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in Westminster, that is very

unhelpful and worrying.

He had

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apologised. We had closure on it but

then it was reopened this weekend.

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This doesn't really suggest someone

who feels very sorry if there is any

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truth in this.

It is the allies who

are trying to help in some way, I

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suppose. They felt they were. The

Sunday Times. Theresa May ditches

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hunting to back animal rights. It

was a manifesto pledge that fox

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hunting, they would overturn the

ban. This is part of a rebranding of

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the party?

It is. But I'm not sure

it will unite the party, I think it

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will anger quite a lot of the rural

supporters as the Sunday Times

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points out, and split MPs, so if

this is meant to be a rousing end of

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year unite the Tories, identity will

play out that way.

It is to address

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the idea that she has managed to

make the conservative brand of toxic

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again since the general election,

and one of the stories that was much

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shared, even that wasn't true, was

all about, the social media backlash

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over accusations that they were

using Brexit legislation to reduce

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UK levels of protection for animals,

that wasn't true, but that went

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bananas on social media and it

became a big thing and a big story

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that seems to reflect something

about the Conservatives brand, and I

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suspect this is about realigning and

addressing this idea that they are a

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toxic particles up they think this

will appeal

to the younger voters.

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Yes, this idea the nasty party,

interesting timing, as well, before

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the Boxing Day shoot, a strong

statement to make at this time of

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year, but maybe she feels it will be

slightly buried for maybe older

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supporters at this time of year.

A

couple of stories we can connect at

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the bottom, troops get £1 for

Christmas Day as Whitehall pays six

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and £50 for a move -- £650.

The

Christmas dinner was on Friday for

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troops in Afghanistan who feel this

has been a forgotten conflict. It is

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in its 17th year and we have rather

taken our attention away from it.

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They have Christmas dinner on

Friday. It has snowed in

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Afghanistan, they ponder, and troops

from the Yorkshire Regiment have

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been reduced to swapping the stars

on the American trees for Yorkshire

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flags -- they point out. Basically

saying the Americans have been

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giving great things the Christmas.

Theresa May has made a speech

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praising the troops, but it seems

they have been given very little

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money individually. And of course on

top of that the nice bit is that

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their family and friends have sent

loads of presence but the country

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has done little for them for top 500

troops

have been given £500 for this

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elevation is but Whitehall staff are

being sent for presentation skills

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training at a cost of £650 a day

which rather dwarfs the £500 for 500

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troops.

It doesn't really add up.

Theresa May has paid a heart-warming

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tribute to the troops. It is to the

empty if they are essentially being

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given pound each to Celebrex

Christmas and there's a long list of

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the things that the American

soldiers get, including Christmas

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trees and food and a special

screening of Star Wars. -- to

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celebrate Christmas but and

Whitehall staff are having £650

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spent on them so they can in answer

it. -- they can speak clearly.

I

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will charge them a fraction of that

to put them through their paces, if

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I were allowed, which I'm not,

probably. And now the Sunday

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express. Christmas Brexit bonus,

exports are soaring.

Interesting

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one. They compared exports with 2015

and they say they are up 9%, but

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normally you compare year-on-year

which they are clearly not doing.

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What are you suggesting?

This might

not be a story which I think is

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entirely worthy of a front page of

any newspaper.

Maybe we can find the

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figures for 2016 between now and

1130, that would be interesting.

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Apparently we are selling lots of

food and whiskey and award-winning

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TV.

How is this boosted by Brexit?

The value of the pound?

That is the

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assumption, from the little we have

got to go on, the shock spike in

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festive food and drink at this time

of year, helped by Brexit.

The

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Sunday Telegraph. Ministers: tax

grab on Brexiteers is bad for

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democracy, this is Michael Grove >>

STUDIO: -- Michael Gove and Boris

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Johnson.

Yes, usually if you make a

private donation to a political

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party and a campaign they are not

taxed on it over and a number of

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individuals who donated to EU

referendum campaigns are now shocked

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that they are been charged tax by

HMRC and I suspect there will be a

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few accountants heads rolling over

this. It's interesting because HMRC,

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it is better say they have been

quite rocked by the suggestion of

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Brexit, they spoke to the Treasury

Select Committee saying they were

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going to have to hire loads more

staff and it would cost them five --

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£500 million to cope with the new

borders and everything and it would

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take the many years to implement. It

is interesting now that they are

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chasing this down. It was in

September, it was reported by the

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Office for Budget Responsibility

that HMRC had been aggressively

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going after inheritance tax which is

what this is being classed under and

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it was going to be up 15%, the

current action, so inheritance tax

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is something they are zoning in on.

It would apply to anyone who has

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donated to either of the campaigns?

The story says the Remain supporter

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has also have this, so this is not

just Leave supporters, so it would

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apply to both camps.

If they are the

rules, they are not being picked on.

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I would say not. And also, they

raised the point that this didn't

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happen with the AV vote but maybe

something has shifted. However, that

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said, I do feel for her HMRC because

I have plenty of friends who are

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civil servants and Brexit is a total

nightmare for them and they will not

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have had a very jolly last year and

it is very stressful but the

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suggestion that that means they are

going after this -- these people,

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but doesn't hold. -- that doesn't

hold.

Yes, that is right.

Staying

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with the Sunday Telegraph, UFOs do

exist, says the Pentagon's X-Files

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J. Who is he really? -- X-Files

chief.

They have described him as

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the real X-Files programme, he says

the case of objects travelling at

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hypersonic speeds which are

inexplicable, has been proved beyond

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reasonable doubt, so this is

interesting, aliens and Christmas.

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--

it says items that were made

yellow macro by any nation or any

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company.

If they are so far away

that you can't see them properly,

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how do you know?

He's also

resigning, this is his resignation

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letter and his point is, you have

not been paying more attention and

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you should have given us more money

for the projects, but he said it is

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classified as to whether there are

any UFOs over the UK.

Freedom of

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information request needs to go in.

The Mail on Sunday, the Army is

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being used the be the best slogan

for some time but they are getting

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rid of it. -- has been used to stop

apparently it is seen as yellow

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macro

-- apparently it is seen as

non-inclusive and elitist, and this

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will cost £1.5 million.

They have

done a focus group?

Yes, market

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research, and it is being removed

from everything, completely dropped.

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It has been their slogan since 1983,

they have a little extract Wyatt has

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been written off, saying it didn't

not resonate with many of their key

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audiences -- little in Stack terrain

-- little extract which explains why

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it has been written.

We don't know

what by going to replace it with. Do

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we? It doesn't say.

Be the second

best.

The average.

That is not what

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you want. They must know that this

is putting people off.

They must do,

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but when Gavin Williamson is facing

open rebellion at suggestions that

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the Army will be slashed below

70,000 personnel and backbenchers

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are up in arms and he has been

accused of not trying to push this

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into the budget enough, you wouldn't

think this was a top priority, even

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if it's not. Having trouble keeping

funding to keep people, attracting

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people for the but they always need

to.

People leave and then they need

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fresh recruits. That's right.

They

need to get young people.

Exactly.

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The Sunday express, eat drink and be

merry, because an anti-fat jab is on

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the way.

Has someone -- as someone

who has already eaten mince pies

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this is great news.

There was a tin

of sweets alongside you outside.

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Yes, that's right.

Not yourself out.

This is a university in Israel that

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has discovered a drug while

researching its use in treating

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obesity and I think watch this space

because hopefully what the drug

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does, it says here, a jab, it

transforms cells which normally

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store fat into cells which burn it

and that sounds like a dream.

There

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was a researcher recently who said

if you lose a decent amount of

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weight you can get type two diabetes

back under control, as well. That

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would be against that suggestion of

eating whatever you like but we will

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anyway because it is Christmas. We

never learn.

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That's it for The Papers this hour.

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Thank you to my guests.

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They'll both be back at 1130

for another look at the stories

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making the news tomorrow.

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