03/01/2018 The Papers

Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

to what the papers will be

bringing us tomorrow.

With me is Susie Boniface,

columnist at the Daily Mirror,

and the Public Affairs

Consultant, Alex Deane.

good to see you both, happy New Year

and all that.

Thank you.

Hello.

The I takes a closer look

at the ongoing pressure facing

the NHS this winter,

and Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt's

apology for having to cancel tens

of thousands of non-urgent surgeries

until the end of the month.

The Times leads on one of the many

explosive claims included in a new

book about the tram presidency,

taking special interest in a claim

that Tony Blair warned Donald

Trump's aids that British

intelligence may have spied on him.

The Guardian reports on a call by

the leader of the local council in

winter to get rid of rough sleepers

by the time of the wedding of Prince

Harry and Meghan Markle.

The Telegraph says

the Environment Secretary,

Michael Gove, will announce plans

for farmers to be rewarded

for opening up the countryside

to the public and enhancing

the environment after Brexit.

It also shows a windswept dog called

'Cookie' soaking up Storm Eleanor's

gale force gusts on the beach

at Heacham in Norfolk.

The metro takes a more ominous look

at Storm Eleanor, with an image of

Porthcawl in South Wales.

And The Metro also

celebrates the lottery win

of a cab driving widower,

who scooped £24 million

without matching all

the numbers on his ticket.

That is also on the front page of

the Mirror, with the Lotto winner

celebrating, surrounded by five

daughters. And the story of the

homeless man originally branded a

hero following the Manchester Arena

attack, having pleaded guilty to

stealing some of the victims's

possessions.

The Financial Times leads with fears

over Britain's asset

management industry -

and its vulnerability to EU

countries after Brexit.

The express has a weather story. -10

in some areas warning that we were

facing a week-long chill. You know

where you are with the express has

topped

in the middle of winter.

You

know where you are with the times as

well because we will start with

that, Susie. Blair warns Trump UK

may have spied on him. All of this

is part of an explosive new book by

the journalist writer Michael Wolff

in the States that is coming out

next week. All kinds of claims. This

is a very interesting one to stop

they are all very interesting, and I

have to warn the viewer here...

The

viewer? The viewers, or 15 million

of them, Susie!

I always thought

about the viewer, and the listener

on the radio. The reader when I'm

writing the papers.

OK, we get it!

The issue is that many of the people

he has interviewed have a reputation

for, shall we say, misleading the

public. Tony Blair also has that

reputation, allegedly, when it comes

to dossiers. Allegedly. We have

someone who has misled the public

and is being investigated by the FBI

telling Michael Wolff someone else

who has misled the public are said

to him. Journalistically speaking,

you can't really nail anything down.

We can talk about the claims but not

the definite truth of anything in

particular.

The claim is Tony Blair

tipped off the Trump administration

that in the run-up to the election,

the national security agency in the

United States was buying on the

Trump team. Needless to say, both

the White House and Trump's

spokesman denied it was his. I

believe Tony Blair who said it and I

believe it happen.

He it didn't

happen. He says it is a fabrication.

He didn't talk about the NSA, he

talked about our GCHQ, he talked

about the British spies spying on

Trump effectively for their friends

at the NSA. It has been broadly

shown after the Snowdon revelations

that the NSA bankrolls a big part of

what GCHQ does. We have a listening

station in Cyprus that the NSA pays

for, and so forth. But the

interesting thing is that the

trumpet construction denies this

happens. If you asked them, the UK

Government denies it happen. But

GCHQ denied to ten years they were

doing Burrell Collection on your

phone calls and e-mails and it

turned out they were. These denials

are of limited value.

The point you

made, Susie, in a post-truth world,

a lot of that created by the very

man on the front of the times here.

And the people around him who are

now turning on each other.

Is he

reaping what he has so on?

The

problem with the Trump White House,

the people who have him in there,

they were a fairly loose group of

affiliations. There were some be

built to win the support of the

Republican Party, some who went to

Russia, apparently, some like Steve

Bannon and bright went to the

extreme right wings, went to perhaps

nationalists supremacist groups. As

a result, now they are in the White

House, when there is a problem there

is not one particular core ideology

of them to stick to the difficult

times. Now they are under pressure,

they are starting to fall apart and

this is why Trump has turned on his

former conciliatory, Steve Bannon

and started attacking him.

I agree.

That is deeply weird but none of

that suggests this story is

necessarily untrue. For me, the

thing about GCHQ's snooping, they

said they were not collecting data

on you, me and everyone else. We had

an investigatory Powers Tribunal

ruled that they were collecting

everyone's data unlawfully. Why

should we believe Donald Trump was

any different?

I don't think people

would mind if they were listening to

him in the run up to the election.

So why deny it?

Probably because

they were not doing it.

Front page

of the Telegraph, farmers to be paid

to open up land to the public

according to Michael Gove, the

Environment Secretary.

It seems when

we leave the European Union, in

Shalaa, in 2019, we will be

subsidising our farmers who will

lose from their subsidy, instead of

just giving hand-outs, which I think

is right, we will reward farmers for

greater public access. The quote

from Michael Gove is that you will

only receive public money for public

good.

On land that hitherto Ramblas and

Coe could not go on to. To me it

sounds like a very good idea. It is

also quite brave of Michael Gove.

Many people who receive hitherto

this kind of hand are wealthy

landowners who have received it

either for owning land they owned

anyway, or owning land and then not

doing anything with it under

set-aside. Michael Gove is

Environment Secretary once again

rather surprises people by doing the

unexpected and probably doing a good

thing.

Does it make sense to you,

Susie?

To some extent,

journalistically. This is a speech

Michael Gove is given, an early

version handed out to some

newspapers. The Times and the

Telegraph both reported it

differently for different reasons,

they have different readerships and

different reasons for not backing

Gove. What good is saying in the

Telegraph has absolutely no figures

are attached to it.

So he doesn't

say how much it might cost?

It does.

Just a moment. The Times reports

that the total cost will be £10

billion. It also says that these

promises, to give a transition to

farmers for their subsidies, was

intended to end in 2022, and Gove is

having the extent that to 2024

because farmers would not have long

enough, in terms of preparing for

the future and buying their

equipment and so on and so forth. If

you say farmers have two games

subsidies, which they need, then you

have to do give that farmer more

than he would get for putting it in

wheat or crops or animals or solar

farm or something else. So it will

cost more than perhaps capped

subsidies would do and there is no

figure on it.

Or indeed not growing

anything.

Yes, quite often you can

get subsidies for not farming your

land. Your average person in this

country would ask why is Khalid

Abdullah Al sued receiving hundreds

of thousands of pounds a year for

his land and capped subsidies, and

why when we promised to match that

subsidy for doing nothing? Isn't it

right when we leave the EU that we

ask them to do something in return

for that money, to allow public

access to the land? I sound like a

socialist saying this!

Alex, trust

me, you will never sound like a

socialist.

God bless you!

CHUCKLING

The Paice, Jeremy Hunt -- the Ibiza.

Jeremy Hunt.

They have had to

prepare very hard for this winter.

There were queues in A&E in summer.

There were issues plainly coming

several years down the track. Now we

have a particular cold spell, a

norovirus and a flu outbreak and a

growing social care problem. More

and more people with conflicts

problems have to go to A&E at the

last minute and be treated there.

Hunt had to apologise for stop

further is no crisis, there is

nothing to see here. You only have

to have spent five minutes in the

NHS to know what the problems are.

To know someone who works at the NHS

or to have used it. There are

clearly problems afoot and you can't

continue denying it.

There are

problems afoot but the lazy answer

is that there is not about money but

putting more money into the NHS than

ever.

But not enough.

That is

because some people regard the NHS

as a religion.

Demand has gone up 4%

of the funding has gone up 1%.

There

are several countries who give

roughly the same or less, like

Australia, Switzerland, that don't

fall over when they have a flu

outbreak. The point about it is not

the amount of money that goes in, it

is about who provides that payment.

Generally speaking it is when it is

a universal state system that it

falls over. It is about inefficiency

and incompetence, not about the mad

money for stop in the end people

like shouting the odds on that don't

like people pointing it out because

to them the NHS is a cult, our

national origin. You can't touch it

in politics in case you die.

You

don't want to defend it, you don't

get to use it.

And there you go.

That attitude.

Homeless people

should be cleared out of winter for

the royal wedding, apparently the

call from a local council.

I think

it is someone who has a lid flies

are treated if you time is. You

think people would learn not to use

social media, or indeed the comment

in the way they do. The Conservative

leader of the Royal Borough of

Windsor and Maidenhead seems to have

written to Thames Valley Police,

asking effectively for the

enforcement of the law as it stands,

which is to stop aggressive begging

and intimidation. But that is

different from saying I want to

clear the homeless out of a

particular borough. On the one hand

you have what he has asked for, in

the law as it stands, not

unreasonable. On the other, people

behaving I think probably unwisely

on social media. In the end, the

Guardian like to say Tories are bad.

LAUGHTER

Does it, Susie?

Going back to the

story, the council leader has

treated apparently it is an issue he

said some of these while he was

skiing in Wyoming.

So you are saying

the same as me, back to the story.

Then he has written to the local

Police Commissioner, which has been

released to the public before it has

gone to the Police Commissioner, he

says. Maybe the post was just late

(!) As Alex rightly says, he has

conflated the issue of homelessness

and rough sleeping with begging and

vagrancy which is not the same

thing. You have a real issue with

homelessness, about a dozen people

sleeping rough on the streets of

Windsor on Christmas Day cared for

by local charities. It is known that

a third of people who are rough

sleepers have mental health

problems, nearly half have substance

abuse problems. You constantly clear

them off the streets. No you could

give them somewhere to go for the

day. It cost about 1500 quid to get

someone off the street at about

£20,000 to the state to them to have

on the -- stay on the street and

have helped the need.

Confusion than

perhaps in Windsor covering that

particular story but no confusion

about the guy in the front of the

Daily Mirror. This Cabaye has won

Wendy Fawell million pounds. "My

Girlfriend is looking down from

heaven, she passed away last year".

Amazing story, God bless him. He got

five numbers, as did several dozen

other people who got about a grand

apiece, but he also got the bonus

ball, and that has made him a

multimillionaire. And God bless him,

because last year his other half,

aged 41...

Four years ago.

Excuse

me, four years ago, collapsed and

died on their Christmas tree. It is

a great story of someone who

deserves a true bit of luck and who

got it.

It is nice to get a

deserving lottery winner. But the

problem he will find is that when

you do have lottery wins, the

winners are often inundated with

begging letters, family member is

they haven't heard from in years and

years. You don't have to have

publicity.

He could have said no. He

clearly feels he could do with it.

People so they often want to share,

I just hope he doesn't get taken

advantage of.

We will end at there.

Thank you for the stories behind the

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Thank you, Susie and Alex.