19/01/2018 The Papers


19/01/2018

No need to wait to see what's in the papers - tune in for a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


Similar Content

Browse content similar to 19/01/2018. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Welcome both. Let's see if we can

get it right. Many of the front

0:00:290:00:36

pages are already in. Let's start

with the times which has a picture

0:00:360:00:40

of Donald Trump and his daughter on

the eve of their first anniversary

0:00:400:00:45

of his inauguration. The Financial

Times. There is news of a potential

0:00:450:00:56

new treatment for sufferers of IBS

on the front of the eye. The express

0:00:560:01:04

features a reaction that there will

be no attempt by the government to

0:01:040:01:07

review the parole board 's decision

to release taxi rate this John

0:01:070:01:13

Worboys. Much of it because it is

contaminated. The Telegraph has

0:01:130:01:27

Cabinet officer David Lillington has

suggested that they could rejoin the

0:01:270:01:31

EU in the future. The mirror leads

with calls by victims of John

0:01:310:01:41

Worboys for police to reinvestigate

dozens of allegations of rape and

0:01:410:01:47

assault. A variety of different

stories. There were no real

0:01:470:01:50

consensus on which one they should

be leading an although the decision

0:01:500:01:56

of the release of John Worboys does

feature in a couple and of course

0:01:560:01:59

Donald Trump. We will be talking

about that at length in a minute.

0:01:590:02:07

There is also much to talk about

with him, isn't there? Let's start

0:02:070:02:11

with the express will stop regarding

the outcry because a six offender

0:02:110:02:23

John Warboys is to be released from

prison. There was talk that the

0:02:230:02:28

government might to take a judicial

review but they have said that now

0:02:280:02:37

it is not going to happen.

There

would be little chance of the parole

0:02:370:02:46

board's decision being overturned. I

think the reason why there is so

0:02:460:02:51

much anger around this is that the

government set a hare running in the

0:02:510:02:59

past week or so, by a nod and a wink

same, we realise there is a lot of

0:02:590:03:14

public anger so we will do what we

can to keep him behind bars. Now

0:03:140:03:20

they have decided that they cannot

do anything at all. The government

0:03:200:03:23

haven't handled it very well.

There

is an idea that two of his victims.

0:03:230:03:35

They don't break its chances of

success that type.

It is difficult

0:03:350:03:43

for the government because they did

give the impression that they wanted

0:03:430:03:45

to do it will stop when he was

speaking in the House of Commons

0:03:450:03:51

today he didn't have a particular

had time, but you can see it on the

0:03:510:04:02

front pages of the tabloids.

The

daily Mirror says it as well.

0:04:020:04:10

Although he was convicted on 12 or

so offences, the police think he may

0:04:100:04:16

have attacked many more.

Obviously

the evidence for that might be more

0:04:160:04:24

difficult. The problem is that

people feel very strongly about it

0:04:240:04:31

and David Gauke has looked as if he

has folded at the first hurdle and

0:04:310:04:37

that has contributed to this since

that... Nick Bowles the Conservative

0:04:370:04:45

MP had a go at to Reza gave --

Theresa May.

There is a lot of

0:04:450:04:57

discussion right now about the way

parole boards operate and the fact

0:04:570:05:02

that they are so opaque.

It's not

just the decision to release him. It

0:05:020:05:10

was the way that his victims weren't

informed before it was announced, so

0:05:100:05:16

clearly it came as a dreadful shock

to them. There needs to be more

0:05:160:05:21

transparency. At the moment people

are looking at it and thinking and

0:05:210:05:27

an. Even just what he was convicted

of how could it be right that he has

0:05:270:05:36

only served nine years in prison. If

the parole board were in some way

0:05:360:05:42

able to come out and get some

indication as to the reason behind

0:05:420:05:49

it,...

That would involve a change

in the law. They are actually

0:05:490:05:55

forbidden to give the reasons by

law.

The times.

0:05:550:06:10

It was... Social media history

wasn't disclosed.

This is a

0:06:160:06:25

follow-up story to that and it's

about how that is going to have

0:06:250:06:29

knock-on effects in other trials

possibly. It's obviously a real

0:06:290:06:36

problem. We don't know why the

police didn't disclose this

0:06:360:06:41

information but presumably it's

because they feel under pressure to

0:06:410:06:44

achieve convictions. So you've got

the vicious cycle where public

0:06:440:06:49

opinion really wants to see people

put away for these terrible offences

0:06:490:06:55

but that is leading to miscarriages

of justice. This morning they say it

0:06:550:07:08

is to investigation. I'm not casting

aspersions for saying that but the

0:07:080:07:17

facts speak for themselves. These

are people who... All the while

0:07:170:07:26

there was clear evidence that he

wasn't guilty. It is incredible

0:07:260:07:32

really, the amount of power that the

Justice system can wield over

0:07:320:07:36

someone.

It undermines confidence.

Of course it does. Donald Trump. His

0:07:360:07:53

one year in... In office as

president. He is on the front page

0:07:530:08:08

of the times with his daughter.

There is an analysis of 25,000

0:08:080:08:15

tweets. We thought he had them all

in one year but no he is not a

0:08:150:08:19

prolific.

That would be 70 tweets a

day. It is more like 17 tweets a day

0:08:190:08:30

over four years.

It seems like more.

He does get quite a lot of attention

0:08:300:08:35

for each one and now he has 280

characters to play with.

There is an

0:08:350:08:41

analysis in The Times. There seems

to be some method to it.

I don't

0:08:410:08:47

know about method... The times

analysis is fascinating because it

0:08:470:08:54

picks out that the word he uses most

often is great. It has these fancy

0:08:540:09:02

graphs showing the frequency that he

uses phrases, such as crooked

0:09:020:09:11

Hillary.

He doesn't sleep a lot.

Apparently you only sleeps only four

0:09:110:09:16

hours a night will stop. What let

out at me was that Britain, the word

0:09:160:09:31

Britain, appears only seven times

whereas France appears 21 times. I

0:09:310:09:37

guess that is partly to do with the

terrorist attacks in France. Theresa

0:09:370:09:50

May is looking for reassurance.

Towards the end of this article it

0:09:500:09:59

does say that there is some kind of

strategic use of social media. Is

0:09:590:10:05

that reading too much into it?

I

wrote an article once saying that

0:10:050:10:09

the way Donald Trump uses twitter is

brilliant, clever. But ever since

0:10:090:10:17

then you have just realised that it

is not at all. It is all instinctive

0:10:170:10:22

and is based on something that he

has just seen on television. He just

0:10:220:10:26

five them off. It is the sort of

stuff that goes down very well with

0:10:260:10:31

his supporters. His ratings are not

great. They have been drifting

0:10:310:10:37

downward since the election but he

still does have a lot of support in

0:10:370:10:42

America and those people are not

shifting.

And likely doesn't have to

0:10:420:10:48

pay for the of an! .

One of the

first things I was taught that the

0:10:480:10:55

young journalist was never to use

exclamation marks.

I can't stand the

0:10:550:11:01

use of the double! In particular.

Capitals look like you are shouting

0:11:010:11:09

at someone. That is Donald Trump

after being in the presidency for

0:11:090:11:15

one year. Nowhere else.

It feels

like longer.

Let's look at the

0:11:150:11:23

Telegraph.

0:11:230:11:32

The UK could rejoin EU in future. We

haven't even left through Brexit yet

0:11:320:11:37

and we might one day go back in.

Yeah, he has taken over from Damian

0:11:370:11:44

Green as the de facto Deputy Prime

Minister, I thought when Damien

0:11:440:11:48

Green left we had seen the back of

that description. But no -

He's the

0:11:480:11:54

de facto, de facto Deputy Prime

Minister.

If you're keeping up! He's

0:11:540:11:57

next in line. He's a heart beat away

from being Prime Minister and one of

0:11:570:12:07

the leading Europhiles in the

Cabinet, he was staunch pro-EU

0:12:070:12:14

Conservative MP, in this interview

with the telegraph, Gordon Rainer

0:12:140:12:19

has got a great line where he

speculates that once we've left

0:12:190:12:23

maybe in a generation's time, we

could talk about rejoining again,

0:12:230:12:28

which logically, of course, anything

could happen in the future. But at

0:12:280:12:32

this point precise moment in time,

politically, it's a bit a daft thing

0:12:320:12:35

to say, think I.

-- I think. It

makes the point that Europe would

0:12:350:12:40

probably have to be, and probably

will be rather different by then.

0:12:400:12:43

Again, that's part of the

speculation about what might happen

0:12:430:12:46

in the future. You know, who knows

what might happen. I do think once

0:12:460:12:52

Brexit does happen, I think the

European Union might well want to

0:12:520:12:57

think again about how it operates.

It might change. But, you know, as

0:12:570:13:02

Kevin says, it's a gift to the daily

Brexit graph. I'm surprised at David

0:13:020:13:12

Livington, one of the cleverest

members of the Cabinet. I'm

0:13:120:13:15

surprised he didn't see that

question coming and work round it.

0:13:150:13:18

Maybe he's answer today that way for

a reason. Who knows.

Well, maybe.

0:13:180:13:23

Let's stay with the Telegraph. That

gets us nicely from Europe to the

0:13:230:13:27

next story about Carillion on the

FT. Carillion, channel bridge,

0:13:270:13:33

suggested by Boris Johnson, there it

is, the car going off the end,

0:13:330:13:36

because they haven't finished

building it. Job fears rise on the

0:13:360:13:42

FT. Cherry-picking of assets looks

fairly inevitable.

Yeah, as

0:13:420:13:50

Carillion has gone bust, obviously,

there will be a scramble to pick up

0:13:500:13:56

the profitable bits of what is left.

You know, there are obviously

0:13:560:14:03

concerns about the jobs in the long

run. What's interesting about the

0:14:030:14:07

jobs is how many of them are being

guaranteed for the moment. All the

0:14:070:14:13

ones in the public sector contracts

are 90% -- and 90% of the private

0:14:130:14:20

sector contracts are being kept

going, which actually, you know,

0:14:200:14:24

suggests that things might not be

quite as bad as we feared when we

0:14:240:14:28

heard they'd gone bust.

You hope not

with all the people whose jobs

0:14:280:14:32

depend upon it. The Kier group has

offered to take on 200 people. The

0:14:320:14:37

banks are being encouraged to extend

credit.

Yeah it's not just the

0:14:370:14:42

employees that clearly are very,

very worried at the moment. It's the

0:14:420:14:47

other companies in the Carillion

supply chain, who are relying on

0:14:470:14:52

Carillion paying them in order to

pay their employees. Obviously

0:14:520:14:57

they've gone bust owing millions and

millions of pounds. So there's an

0:14:570:15:00

awful lot of companies who are left

out of pocket as well. That has a

0:15:000:15:05

knock-on effect. As you say, the

banks are being encouraged to be a

0:15:050:15:10

bit lenient with them. There's many

ripples to this particular story. I

0:15:100:15:16

think it's got a long way to run.

All those services and contracts do

0:15:160:15:20

need, you know, if the work needs to

be done, it needs to be done by

0:15:200:15:24

someone.

That's right and probably

at a slightly higher price, because

0:15:240:15:28

the companies that are going to come

in, will obviously, I mean, the

0:15:280:15:32

reason Carillion went bust, one of

the reasons was because it had

0:15:320:15:36

underpriced the contracts. In the

end, the taxpayer is going to have

0:15:360:15:39

to pay more. In a sense, that's just

compensating for the fact that we

0:15:390:15:43

were getting a very good deal before

at Carillion's expense.

Let's look

0:15:430:15:48

at the Daily Mail. What a waste

revealed, it says. Half a million

0:15:480:15:52

tons of rubbish that we put out for

recycling is being dumped in

0:15:520:15:57

landfill or burned instead. I think

most of the recycling that I put out

0:15:570:16:02

got blown across the garden this

week in the wind. We had to pick it

0:16:020:16:05

up! This has been suspected for a

long time, that the contamination as

0:16:050:16:09

well, if you've not sorted it out

properly, it's useless.

Yeah, I

0:16:090:16:13

mean, I know that our own recycling,

everything, cardboard, plastic,

0:16:130:16:20

tins, newspapers, everything goes in

the one bucket, so I mean...

You get

0:16:200:16:26

a bucket? In west London.

A massive

big wheelie bin.

So do I. Not paper,

0:16:260:16:32

paper and card is separate.

So when

you do it, you kind of feel good

0:16:320:16:37

about yourself. You think that

you're helping to save the planet.

0:16:370:16:40

Well, this kind of bursts that

particular self-righteous bubble. It

0:16:400:16:44

shows most of it, sorry 4% of it, a

decent chunk.

This is a bit of a

0:16:440:16:50

Daily Mail headline, this. Because

actually if you read the small

0:16:500:16:54

print, it's only 4% of recycling.

But it had gone up from 1. 7% in

0:16:540:17:00

2011. So the trend...

Yes, but this

is giving the impression that it's a

0:17:000:17:04

waste of time to recycle because

it's being thrown away or burned.

0:17:040:17:09

That's not the case.

What I would

like is them to bring back the

0:17:090:17:12

bottle return system, where you

could take them back and get your

0:17:120:17:16

5p.

Remember that, and blue bottles

as a kid for 10p. You supplement

0:17:160:17:22

your sweet money. You didn't realise

you were recycling.

You didn't.

Your

0:17:220:17:27

pocket money.

Flesh it out for penny

sweets, if such things still exist,

0:17:270:17:34

I have no idea. Let's finish with

the Guardian, woman has baby, on the

0:17:340:17:39

front page. She's making light of it

too. This is the Prime Minister of

0:17:390:17:45

New Zealand. She's going to take six

weeks off while she has this baby in

0:17:450:17:50

June she says and then get back to

work.

It's obviously a brilliant

0:17:500:17:56

good news story for equality of the

sexes, because it just, it further

0:17:560:18:04

allows us to treat pregnancy, having

children as a normal part of life

0:18:040:18:09

and something that even Prime

Ministers do.

It hasn't happened for

0:18:090:18:14

a long timement

No, it hasn't. We

had a slight experience of it with

0:18:140:18:18

Tony Blair. He didn't have a baby.

It was Benazir Bhutto.

There was

0:18:180:18:34

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

But

they weren't giving birth and coming

0:18:340:18:38

back six weeks later.

It's not the

long time to be off work.

Baby has

0:18:380:18:44

two parents, who's going to step in?

The husband.

The daddy, Clark. Good

0:18:440:18:48

for him. Why not. He's going to be

the first man of fishing and a stay

0:18:480:18:54

at home dad. I think you might have

to rethink that Clark, I don't know

0:18:540:18:57

how much fishing you'll be getting

done.

Baby in a papouse.

Little more

0:18:570:19:04

time consuming that people perhaps

realise. That's all for the papers

0:19:040:19:07

tonight. Are we done? Yes, don't

forget you can see the front pages

0:19:070:19:12

online on the website. It's there

for you seven days a week at

0:19:120:19:16

bbc.co.uk/papers. If you miss the

programme any evening, you can watch

0:19:160:19:20

it later on the BBCi player. Kevin,

John, nice to see you. I'm going to

0:19:200:19:23

go and talk to the lawyer about my

transgression. Coming up next, it's

0:19:230:19:28

the weather. ?

0:19:280:19:32

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS