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Coming up in a moment, The Papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the broadcaster

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John Stapleton and Kate Proctor,

Political Correspondent

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at the London Evening Standard.

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Welcome to you both.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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And one story dominates as it has

dominated the news coverage today.

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The Financial Times broke the story

about the men only President's Club

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who called a halt to the events

after allegations of sexual

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harassment. It's also the top story

in the Metro under the headline

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sexists and the city.

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Theresa May was appalled by reports

of what she read about the event,

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according to The Daily Telegraph and

has rebuked one of her ministers.

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One has had to explain his

attendance.

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The Times reports that

there have been calls

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for an end to the gagging orders

which allegedly stop

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hostesses at parties -

from reporting harassment.

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The same story is the lead

in The Guardian too.

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Along with the news that scientists

have cloned two monkeys. The Daily

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Express as a change of subject with

David Cameron caught on camera

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saying Brexit is not as bad as he

feared. An uplifting story of a

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woman who has given birth after

being caught in the grand foul fire

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tragedy. And the next stories summed

up as sleaze balls. Let's start with

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the Financial Times. It has scored a

major coup.

Congratulations to them,

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cracking investigation, got everyone

talking, it has been in the papers

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today and will be there tomorrow.

What amazes me is after the Harvey

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Weinstein scandal, has been a great

debate about the role of women and

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the question is how does any group

of people imagine that in 2018 they

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could get away with something like

this. I found it bewildering. This

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was an event at which women were

told to wear sexy black dresses,

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underwear to match, high heels,

paraded in the fanfare of trumpets

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to a men only assembly and in some

cases they were treated to put it

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mildly, inappropriately, to bid it

at its strongest, they were sexually

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abused. Unbelievable that these

people thought they could get away

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with it.

I did not know these

gatherings existed so it was

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shocking, well done to the FT for

bringing this to our attention. This

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club will be closing after this. The

FT has updated as farmers, they are

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shutting down this organisation, --

updated us mess. This has tarnished

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the reputation. They would never

have been able to hold an event

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again. I hope it is not the end of

it, I think there is more to do, you

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need to speak to the trustees and

the people who arranged the event.

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Seeing this being discussed in more

detail.

I think there are a heck of

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a lot of questions to be asked

Michael told these women to dress in

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this way and did the beneficiaries

of this event really not know what

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was going on? It's been going for 30

years. It must have happened before

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otherwise the FT would not have had

a tip-off to go and have a look at

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it. So they have questions to answer

and so have the organisers. An

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interesting debate. In your newsroom

a minute ago, four women were

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talking, and one of them said, are

we overplaying this a bit? These

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women went voluntarily, some have

been there before and enjoyed the

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event. It leads to new opportunities

for them and they've been back once

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or twice. And I wondered if we were

getting excited about this because

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it is posh people at posh event.

Given that you say that lets look at

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the front page of the Metro with

this great headline, Sexists and the

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City. Is this partly the point, that

it is taking part in the City and

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not so low?

Of course, this is what

it feels so scandalous because it

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feels like a different group of

people altogether. The women's

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minister said today that there seems

to be some sort of correlation

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between wealth and holding these

events.

Is this why we are more

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horrified by it?

Probably. For me

this is masked in charitable giving,

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supposed to be something altruistic

yet at the same time it has

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essentially degraded women. This is

why I find it shocking that, some of

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the most respectable people in the

country, apparently.

Someone asked,

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if we get worked up about this

should we also get worked up about

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the fact that there are clubs in

Soho with this kind of thing goes on

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every night. There is a difference

as someone pointed out, the women

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who work in several know what they

are in for. Some of the women

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employed at this event certainly did

not and every woman has the right

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not to be abused in this way.

£150

for a shift if you are a student or

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on a minimum wage, that's a lot of

money to earn in one night and when

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you get there you have entered a

room of hell.

Let's go to the front

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page of the Daily Telegraph it also

leads on this story but with a

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different twist.

List makes the

point, the political ramifications,

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when minister who is there, and says

that he left early because he felt

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uncomfortable, but this report

indicates that he was there until

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930 PM and he was at the same event

of the previous year and has been

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called upon to account for himself.

His line was that he was not aware

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of this activity. It must have

happened before otherwise the FT

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would not have been there.

Nobody is

trying to put a different point of

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view, if you look at Hostess

agencies there's quite a lot of

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information that might set alarm

bells ringing. When were the vital

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statistics of the addresses are

dashed home hostesses.

Many of the

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women did not know what they are

doing. Host 's work is something you

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might done as a student, because you

feel it might be a good idea and you

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can be young and naive and five

years later think, that was a

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terrible experience.

It doesn't

excuse the behaviour.

I don't think

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we can say that women signed up for

this because they enjoy it and they

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knew what they were doing. I don't

think we can say that.

A small story

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at the bottom, Trump hails the new

Churchill, was that.

It is Theresa

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May apparently. He has told her she

could become this generation is

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Winston Churchill. He made the

comparison with Britain's wartime

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leader in a phone call on December

19 last year, the date is

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interesting because remember, in

December last year, they had this

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big bust up over him be treating the

Briton First upwelling tweets and

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she condemned him for that and he

told her to mind her own business.

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Apparently they have made up.

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Downing Street could control this

phone call why did they not let us

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know.

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One big photograph of Theresa may's

predecessor.

This is not the first

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time he's been caught on camera, he

was caught having in a jolly way

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when he handed over to Theresa May.

It will infuriate a lot of people,

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people might think, you were

supposed to be such a big champion

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for remaining and now it sounds like

you are accepting Brexit which I

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don't think people will be happy to

hear. I think his judgment is

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welcome that he not centrestage any

more. And to get the feel of

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somebody who called the referendum

and get a wishy-washy appraisal is

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not but satisfactory. I think

Theresa May might secretly be quite

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pleased. He is perhaps given her six

out of ten.

Is coded a mistake, not

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a disaster but when you set up

against some things he said during

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the campaign to stay in, forecasting

thousands of job losses, saying it

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was like putting a bomb and the

economy and would cost as all

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pheasants, yet having said that, the

other side also said a lot of things

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that didn't come true.

That will

continue to be debated. The front

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page of the Guardian has a couple of

slightly frightened looking monkeys

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on the front. They are exactly the

same because they are clones. I'm

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old enough to remember Dolly the

sheep although I am not sure that

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you are. Same business. Turkeys

cloned in China, it took the

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scientists 19 different attempts. 79

attempts, sorry, I am misreading it,

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some concern, are we getting a step

closer to cloning human beings. Of

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course that is illegal. There are

ethical issues as well in the very

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process so far.

They have done it to

use these monkeys to look at medical

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treatments for genetic disorders so

this will be interesting medical

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research, to try to see what this

might mean for future

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investigations. I know it is an

unsavoury topic for many people.

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Indeed it is. The Times has words

from Theresa May that she is going

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to talk about tech giants at Davos

tomorrow.

This is her big speech, at

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huge gathering and economic leaders

and experts. Theresa May will talk

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about technology and how they should

be more pressure on social media

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providers to remove terrorist

content which is a very noble thing

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to talk about but again it's about

talking about putting on pressure.

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She's going to say to people and

perhaps more pressure should be put

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on shareholders to influence social

media companies in haste and knowing

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how quickly they take things of the

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Internet,

it's a difficult thing to

do.

The fact remains that goes on,

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and they do defend and things are

published which are distasteful, at

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their worst, horrifying.

Let's end

with the front page of the daily

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Mirror. Elton is quitting for the

sake of his family but it's quite a

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long process of quitting!

In the

process. He will do three years

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worth of gigs too rounded off and

after that we'll do a residency so

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he look after his young family.

I am

always suspicious of artists who say

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they will quit, I'm a fan of

seagulls, they once had a fight on

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stage and asked if they would ever

play again one band member said hell

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would have to freeze over first. 14

years later they did play again and

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the album was called hell's frozen

over! I am sure he means it, he

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wants to spend more time with his

children.

He's 70 and has given the

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world so much music, I think these

last three years will be enjoyed by

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his hands.

Thank you both.

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That's it for The Papers tonight.

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Don't forget you can

see the front pages

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of the papers online on the BBC

News website.

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It's all there for you -

7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers

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and if you miss the programme any

evening you can watch it

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later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you Lisa and Sarah.

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Goodbye.

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