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Now it is time for Ben and The
Now it is time for
Ben and The Papers.
Hello, and welcome to our Sunday
morning look at the papers.
With me are the journalist
James Rampton and Peter Conradi,
Foreign Editor at the Sunday Times.
Let us take you through sop of the
front-pages at least.
Let us take you through sop
of the front-pages at least.
The Sunday Times says
Meghan Markle plans to make
a speech at her wedding.
Donald Trump has criticised
Theresa May, according
to the Mail on Sunday,
who say the US president thinks
the PM's approach to Brexit hasn't
been "tough enough".
The Independent on Sunday leads
with a dramatic picture of the bomb
in Kabul which has killed at least
95 people and injured many more.
The Telegraph says a Cabinet source
is warning of Brexit betrayal,
as civil servants backing remain
are handling the terms
of departure from the EU.
A crackdown on rogue
parking companies is
the Express's main story.
And the Observer leads with claims
that Academy schools
are facing a cash crisis.
Let us start off then with the Mail
Trump's snub to the Prime Minister
over Brexit according to the Mail on
Sunday at least. This is from this
Piers Morgan interview with Donald
Trump in Davos. It is on ITV
Piers Morgan doesn't get
enough publicity so we will talk
about him for the next ten minutes.
And Donald Trump: It is the dream
team. As if the Brexit negotiations
weren't going badly enough already
and we were feeling completely
sidelined by Europe and the Tory
party is in some sort of meltdown we
have Donald Trump saying I could
have done that better. We were
talking earlier, it might have been
more of a story if Trump said I
couldn't have do 19 better. It is
another indication of how der rye
sieve he is of this country and
dismiss sieve of Theresa May. He
says anything she did I could have
done better. It plays into the idea
she is sub missive and subservient
in his presence because she is
desperate for a post-Brexit trade
deal. It is demeaning for us but we
are in a desperate position and this
reflects that. The sort of thing
most Presidents wouldn't say about a
British Prime Minister. Would it be
the way I negotiate? No, I wouldn't
negotiate it the way it's beening
inned. I would have had a different
He is a stable genius.
I have read and heard on Twitter.
The great thing is his line would
have been the EU is not all it is
cracked up to be. Great negotiating
stance, that is how he would have
handled it. It is tremendous fun, I
think, really his interview, it is
predictable as well as James says
really. The other element is the
fact he appears to have invited
himself again for a state visit to
Britain, much to everyone's
surprise. He is apparently coming
Once is never enough.
Precisely. Once after a Nato summit
and again in October. So there is a
wonderful deadpan line, Mr Trump's
comment took Downing Street and
Buckingham Palace by surprise.
He was meant to come for the opening
of the American embassy but he
didn't because he doesn't like south
London. He did make a big impact at
Davos this week. He arrived with a
massive entourage, a bit like a rock
There was a wonderful
photo on the front of the guardian.
The Evening Standard in London and
it was snow Apocalypse Now, his
fleet of helicopters and it was like
the scene from Apocalypse Now of all
the helicopters flying through the
air in Vietnam with snow added.
There is a sense of pique about the
fact he hasn't had the official
invitation, he has been banging on
about how Macron in the French
capital rolled out the red carpet
for him, they closed the Eiffel
Tower. Anything that smacks of sell
relate rope and red carpet, he is a
sucker for that. If we want a trade
deal he should spend three weeks in
Buckingham Palace and it would be a
What he hasn't... What he
hasn't been invited to, this is the
Sun on Sunday newspaper, apparently
he hasn't been invited, perhaps not
that surprisingly, to Megan and
Harry's wedding. Let us go through
the quotes of that. This is another
mart of the interview. Have you got
an invite to the Royal Wedding? Not
that I know of said Donald Trump.
Would you like to go? I'd want them
to be happy is his answer. All of
that is the backdrop is Meghan
Markle had a go.
Piers Morgan said
Meghan said you were a misogynist.
He says I still hope they are happy.
And oh my invitation is lost in the
I mean, you know, I think
Meghan Markle is a great thing, I am
sure she will bring joy to the
nation, one of the great things she
will do is snub Trump. You can't say
that, he is a divisive misogynist
and the next day say you are welcome
to my wedding, perhaps under
pressure from the Government to talk
about this fabled trade deal we are
supposed to be doing.
Perhaps if you
sit down the table next to the mad
uncle or aunt.
To be fair there may
not be room for Donald Trump,
because it is a relatively you
know... It is a small and intimate
affair isn't it.
I don't think there
is room in London to land the
helicopters, maybe the garden of
Buckingham Palace the only place.
Wasn't Prince Harry, he was
interviewing Barack Obama, and there
was an issue there about whether
Barack Obama would be invited to the
wedding. So you can't have even, can
you, there is a lot of ex-Presidents
to get through.
Maybe an American
President has different status when
it is the an American citizen who is
doing the marrying.
speaking of that wedding, whether or
not Donald Trump is there, and it
looks like he probably won't be, the
Sunday Times is saying, your paper
Meghan is going to
make a speech at the wedding. And no
reason she shouldn't, but that is
quite an interesting bit of detail
ahead of the wedding.
presumably if Trump were there, it
would give her the opportunity to
remetre views on his attitude. You
are still a misogynist, you are
still the President. It is a break
with precedent. Why not? It is 2018.
And yes, because the expectation is
her father, former Hollywood
lighting director is not going to
speak for her. We don't learn why he
is not going to, but what more can
It is 800 people, of some
of the most influential people, I
can't say the word, in this country
and he is a very private man. I like
the cartoon, the agent is saying
tell the Palace Meghan won't accept
a non-speaking role. I go to a lot
of young people's weddings this days
through my children. Young people, I
Have you been invited?
Yes I have taken Trump's invite! It
would be more unusual for the bride
not to speak. That has become a
totally, a given at most weddings. I
think that is is right. If the groom
speaks why shouldn't the bride as
She showed us how articulate
she is, you know, and I am sure it
will be a very good speech.
going to obey him or not.
wait for the Sunday Times...
will have to wait until May to find
The Sunday Times, their main
story is about the Defence
Secretary, Gavin William song it is
a chilling warning he put out this
week, about how Russia could cause
not just thousands of deaths but
thousands and thousands and
thousands of deaths, by targeting
energy and gas pipelines. There is
sort of suggestions about why he's
put that out there this week.
think it is intriguing he put it out
there the same day he admitted his
had a flirtation with a former
colleague, apparently the Guardian
was on to the story as well. But
security chiefs are saying his
warning about Russia is is alarmist,
and that there may be a suggestion
he has used secret information to
ramp that up. I mean it is
incredible the rise of this man. Six
monthsing a he wasn't a household
name in his only household. Only
famous for having a spider in his
office to put fear of God...
quite a claim to fame
I think he
called the spider Chronos because
the God ate his own children.
Putting the fear of God into the
backbenches, now he became Defence
Secretary after perhaps he suggested
that Michael Fallon should leave,
and now, he is making a rather
unsubtle bid to be leader I would
say, and the Russian revelations are
part of a distraction technique,
after he revealed about the
flirtation he wanted to distrack
A good day to bury bad news.
There is still this jostling for, if
Theresa May goes, who will be the
party leader? Leader? He is he a
The point is he has come
from nowhere very fast, hasn't he. I
mean really the way things are
going, who knows? Who knows.
Well, speaking of all of
that, the Telegraph are saying that
Mandarins are forcing Theresa May
into a Brexit betrayal. They are
letting remain nor civil servants
dictate the terms of departure from
the European Union. It is another
warning, I suppose from the
Brexiteers that the whole thing is
being held up or soft pedalled if
This is a story that one
feels the Sunday Telegraph could
write every week, the mail could
write. The custodians of a hard
Brexit. The Telegraph is out to see
any signs of sabotage from within,
particularly from the ranks of the
Mandarins. This is all part of the
manoeuvring, I think one would
expect at this stage in the process.
It is inkicktive of panic within
Brexit rank, they are accusing the
Mandarins, I know they are capable
of bias, the Mandarins by law have
to be impartial and implement the
Government's policies and the
Government policy is to deliver
Brexit, so, blaming the Mandarins is
the last resort of the scoundrel and
I think it may well be it is, you
know, slight hint they may well be
panicking, and Theresa Villiers has
reinforceded that by suggesting that
it may be we are seeing a dilution
of Brexit, we have heard Jacob
Rees-Mogg in week, urging the
Government to hold its never and
really enforce a tough Brexit --
nerve. So I think the assertiveness
they are making these comments with,
tells me they are worried are.
us look at that, that Sunday
Telegraph story with Teresa I
havier, a commentary piece by her,
she says May once set out a bold
vision for Brexit, we must not let
this go. A direct warning from what
was a senior Cabinet Minister.
true. It talks to the point that the
one can have a bold vision and I
think certainly what is happening is
the Mandarins who have to deal with
the nitty gritty of separating us
from the EU, necessarily are going
to flag up the problems there are. I
mean, the extent tent to which the
EU is closely, we are so closely
intertwined with the EU, when you
try to, you move beyond slogans to
sort things out. You realised the
complexity of the challenge. It
indicates the Civil War that every
Tory leader has been toppled by
Europe. It is the Civil War that
will not end and the struggle
between Brexiteers an remainors at
the moment is a continuation of
that. As far as I can see there is
no end, even in the war cabinet it
is evenly split between the two
Maybe there will be an end to
it once we have left the EU.
will be argument about the way it is
done and should we have another
erecriminations with parking. Much
more serious... We have got on to
the main story R time is up for the
Quite right too.
Says man who has had a few tickets
in his time.
I have had a run in. I
had a run in with a parking cowboy.
But I won. I beat them. This is
essentially the way, this is about
parking on private land, so you park
on private land and you get clamped
or ticketed, and according to the
Express's front-page exclusive,
rogue firms that do this will no
longer be allowed to use the DVLA
database to hunt down innocent
It is straightly extreme
Cowboys indicate John
Wayne riding in to liberate
oppressed driver, they have a good
point. These companies are using
DVLA records in order to chase
people down. I didn't know people
were allowed to access that, that is
being stopped. They are issuing 11
tickets every minute, if that is
stopped that has to be a good thing.
Everybody recents getting a parking
ticket. The idea of parking, being
privatised in this way, people will
recent than any way. What is the
idea, the state should do it all?
think what we are talking is parking
on private land and often these
things, I am not speaking from birth
personal experience here.
I'm moving on.
The signage often is not clear, or
they are overzealous. This is
obviously a blow for freedom and
liberty! Fighting back against
cowboys. Maybe it will be different
when we leave the European Union.
Let us finish off on a story about
Swindon's Macey ready for Oscar
close up. That is the Sunday Times
newspaper, there we go. There is...
A lot of mentions today. I can't
think why actually! Macey changed
her mind about what she wants to
wear to the Oscars.
a dreadful overused word but I am
going to say this is a heart-warming
story because it is a six-year-old
girl from Swindon, and she 's the
youngest ever deaf person ever to be
involved in an Oscar-winning film.
The previous youngest winner was
Shirley Temple who was also six, but
this is a very very powerful film
about a young girl, who feels locked
out of the rest of the world because
she's not born into a deaf family,
as nine out of ten children are,
she's isolated in that world, and
trying to make her way and it's just
awe very very touching story about a
young girl making her mark on the
world, and proving that anything is
possible to her. I think that is a
really great message.
I haven't seen
the film but it seems moving. What
is interesting she is the fourth
generation in her family, to be
deaf, you know so we are talking
about the film, but there are
serious points here about how you
know, problems, the parents have
faced in getting treatment for her
or schooling for her, they had to
move from Cornwall to skin don --
Swindon so she could attend school
with specialist support. Anything
like this that puts a spotlight on
the problems or the issues or the
challenges that deaf children face I
think is welcome.
He is going to be
the most famous person from Swindon.
All I know about Swindon is it has
the most round about s of any city
in Europe. That is a better story.
She will be in the headlines many
years to come.
You are be deluged
Billie Piper is from
Swindon. Melinda messenger. What a
surprise, a journalist who is wrong.
It is a great story, she will be
I have always enjoyed my
visits to Swindon he adds hastily.
You are getting a letter from the
mayor of Swindon.
I will have to
apologise like Boris Johnson.
man who said this this town is just
about round abouts. Good to talk to
you, thank you for being with us.
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