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Now it is time for Ben and The

Papers.

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Now it is time for

Ben and The Papers.

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Hello, and welcome to our Sunday

morning look at the papers.

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With me are the journalist

James Rampton and Peter Conradi,

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Foreign Editor at the Sunday Times.

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Let us take you through sop of the

front-pages at least.

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Let us take you through sop

of the front-pages at least.

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The Sunday Times says

Meghan Markle plans to make

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a speech at her wedding.

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Donald Trump has criticised

Theresa May, according

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to the Mail on Sunday,

who say the US president thinks

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the PM's approach to Brexit hasn't

been "tough enough".

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The Independent on Sunday leads

with a dramatic picture of the bomb

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in Kabul which has killed at least

95 people and injured many more.

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The Telegraph says a Cabinet source

is warning of Brexit betrayal,

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as civil servants backing remain

are handling the terms

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of departure from the EU.

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A crackdown on rogue

parking companies is

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the Express's main story.

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And the Observer leads with claims

that Academy schools

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are facing a cash crisis.

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Let us start off then with the Mail

on Sunday.

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Trump's snub to the Prime Minister

over Brexit according to the Mail on

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Sunday at least. This is from this

Piers Morgan interview with Donald

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Trump in Davos. It is on ITV

tonight.

Piers Morgan doesn't get

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enough publicity so we will talk

about him for the next ten minutes.

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And Donald Trump: It is the dream

team. As if the Brexit negotiations

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weren't going badly enough already

and we were feeling completely

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sidelined by Europe and the Tory

party is in some sort of meltdown we

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have Donald Trump saying I could

have done that better. We were

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talking earlier, it might have been

more of a story if Trump said I

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couldn't have do 19 better. It is

another indication of how der rye

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sieve he is of this country and

dismiss sieve of Theresa May. He

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says anything she did I could have

done better. It plays into the idea

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she is sub missive and subservient

in his presence because she is

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desperate for a post-Brexit trade

deal. It is demeaning for us but we

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are in a desperate position and this

reflects that. The sort of thing

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most Presidents wouldn't say about a

British Prime Minister. Would it be

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the way I negotiate? No, I wouldn't

negotiate it the way it's beening

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inned. I would have had a different

attitude.

He is a stable genius.

So

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I have read and heard on Twitter.

The great thing is his line would

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have been the EU is not all it is

cracked up to be. Great negotiating

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stance, that is how he would have

handled it. It is tremendous fun, I

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think, really his interview, it is

predictable as well as James says

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really. The other element is the

fact he appears to have invited

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himself again for a state visit to

Britain, much to everyone's

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surprise. He is apparently coming

twice, once...

Once is never enough.

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Precisely. Once after a Nato summit

and again in October. So there is a

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wonderful deadpan line, Mr Trump's

comment took Downing Street and

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Buckingham Palace by surprise.

He was meant to come for the opening

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of the American embassy but he

didn't because he doesn't like south

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London. He did make a big impact at

Davos this week. He arrived with a

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massive entourage, a bit like a rock

star there.

There was a wonderful

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photo on the front of the guardian.

The Evening Standard in London and

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it was snow Apocalypse Now, his

fleet of helicopters and it was like

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the scene from Apocalypse Now of all

the helicopters flying through the

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air in Vietnam with snow added.

There is a sense of pique about the

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fact he hasn't had the official

invitation, he has been banging on

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about how Macron in the French

capital rolled out the red carpet

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for him, they closed the Eiffel

Tower. Anything that smacks of sell

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relate rope and red carpet, he is a

sucker for that. If we want a trade

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deal he should spend three weeks in

Buckingham Palace and it would be a

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done deal.

What he hasn't... What he

hasn't been invited to, this is the

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Sun on Sunday newspaper, apparently

he hasn't been invited, perhaps not

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that surprisingly, to Megan and

Harry's wedding. Let us go through

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the quotes of that. This is another

mart of the interview. Have you got

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an invite to the Royal Wedding? Not

that I know of said Donald Trump.

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Would you like to go? I'd want them

to be happy is his answer. All of

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that is the backdrop is Meghan

Markle had a go.

Piers Morgan said

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Meghan said you were a misogynist.

He says I still hope they are happy.

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And oh my invitation is lost in the

post.

I mean, you know, I think

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Meghan Markle is a great thing, I am

sure she will bring joy to the

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nation, one of the great things she

will do is snub Trump. You can't say

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that, he is a divisive misogynist

and the next day say you are welcome

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to my wedding, perhaps under

pressure from the Government to talk

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about this fabled trade deal we are

supposed to be doing.

Perhaps if you

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sit down the table next to the mad

uncle or aunt.

To be fair there may

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not be room for Donald Trump,

because it is a relatively you

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know... It is a small and intimate

affair isn't it.

I don't think there

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is room in London to land the

helicopters, maybe the garden of

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Buckingham Palace the only place.

Wasn't Prince Harry, he was

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interviewing Barack Obama, and there

was an issue there about whether

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Barack Obama would be invited to the

wedding. So you can't have even, can

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you, there is a lot of ex-Presidents

to get through.

Maybe an American

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President has different status when

it is the an American citizen who is

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doing the marrying.

Any way,

speaking of that wedding, whether or

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not Donald Trump is there, and it

looks like he probably won't be, the

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Sunday Times is saying, your paper

Peter.

Indeed.

Meghan is going to

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make a speech at the wedding. And no

reason she shouldn't, but that is

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quite an interesting bit of detail

ahead of the wedding.

Yes,

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presumably if Trump were there, it

would give her the opportunity to

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remetre views on his attitude. You

are still a misogynist, you are

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still the President. It is a break

with precedent. Why not? It is 2018.

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And yes, because the expectation is

her father, former Hollywood

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lighting director is not going to

speak for her. We don't learn why he

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is not going to, but what more can

one say.

It is 800 people, of some

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of the most influential people, I

can't say the word, in this country

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and he is a very private man. I like

the cartoon, the agent is saying

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tell the Palace Meghan won't accept

a non-speaking role. I go to a lot

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of young people's weddings this days

through my children. Young people, I

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know some.

Have you been invited?

Yes I have taken Trump's invite! It

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would be more unusual for the bride

not to speak. That has become a

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totally, a given at most weddings. I

think that is is right. If the groom

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speaks why shouldn't the bride as

well.

She showed us how articulate

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she is, you know, and I am sure it

will be a very good speech.

Is she

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going to obey him or not.

We will

wait for the Sunday Times...

You

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will have to wait until May to find

out.

The Sunday Times, their main

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story is about the Defence

Secretary, Gavin William song it is

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a chilling warning he put out this

week, about how Russia could cause

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not just thousands of deaths but

thousands and thousands and

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thousands of deaths, by targeting

energy and gas pipelines. There is

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sort of suggestions about why he's

put that out there this week.

I

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think it is intriguing he put it out

there the same day he admitted his

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had a flirtation with a former

colleague, apparently the Guardian

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was on to the story as well. But

security chiefs are saying his

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warning about Russia is is alarmist,

and that there may be a suggestion

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he has used secret information to

ramp that up. I mean it is

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incredible the rise of this man. Six

monthsing a he wasn't a household

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name in his only household. Only

famous for having a spider in his

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office to put fear of God...

That is

quite a claim to fame

I think he

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called the spider Chronos because

the God ate his own children.

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Putting the fear of God into the

backbenches, now he became Defence

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Secretary after perhaps he suggested

that Michael Fallon should leave,

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and now, he is making a rather

unsubtle bid to be leader I would

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say, and the Russian revelations are

part of a distraction technique,

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after he revealed about the

flirtation he wanted to distrack

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people.

A good day to bury bad news.

There is still this jostling for, if

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Theresa May goes, who will be the

party leader? Leader? He is he a

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leader?

The point is he has come

from nowhere very fast, hasn't he. I

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mean really the way things are

going, who knows? Who knows.

I will

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take over.

Well, speaking of all of

that, the Telegraph are saying that

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Mandarins are forcing Theresa May

into a Brexit betrayal. They are

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letting remain nor civil servants

dictate the terms of departure from

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the European Union. It is another

warning, I suppose from the

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Brexiteers that the whole thing is

being held up or soft pedalled if

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you were.

This is a story that one

feels the Sunday Telegraph could

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write every week, the mail could

write. The custodians of a hard

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Brexit. The Telegraph is out to see

any signs of sabotage from within,

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particularly from the ranks of the

Mandarins. This is all part of the

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manoeuvring, I think one would

expect at this stage in the process.

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It is inkicktive of panic within

Brexit rank, they are accusing the

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Mandarins, I know they are capable

of bias, the Mandarins by law have

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to be impartial and implement the

Government's policies and the

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Government policy is to deliver

Brexit, so, blaming the Mandarins is

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the last resort of the scoundrel and

I think it may well be it is, you

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know, slight hint they may well be

panicking, and Theresa Villiers has

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reinforceded that by suggesting that

it may be we are seeing a dilution

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of Brexit, we have heard Jacob

Rees-Mogg in week, urging the

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Government to hold its never and

really enforce a tough Brexit --

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nerve. So I think the assertiveness

they are making these comments with,

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tells me they are worried are.

Let

us look at that, that Sunday

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Telegraph story with Teresa I

havier, a commentary piece by her,

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she says May once set out a bold

vision for Brexit, we must not let

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this go. A direct warning from what

was a senior Cabinet Minister.

It is

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true. It talks to the point that the

one can have a bold vision and I

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think certainly what is happening is

the Mandarins who have to deal with

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the nitty gritty of separating us

from the EU, necessarily are going

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to flag up the problems there are. I

mean, the extent tent to which the

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EU is closely, we are so closely

intertwined with the EU, when you

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try to, you move beyond slogans to

sort things out. You realised the

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complexity of the challenge. It

indicates the Civil War that every

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Tory leader has been toppled by

Europe. It is the Civil War that

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will not end and the struggle

between Brexiteers an remainors at

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the moment is a continuation of

that. As far as I can see there is

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no end, even in the war cabinet it

is evenly split between the two

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and...

Maybe there will be an end to

it once we have left the EU.

There

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will be argument about the way it is

done and should we have another

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referendum.

There are

erecriminations with parking. Much

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more serious... We have got on to

the main story R time is up for the

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parking cowboys.

Quite right too.

Says man who has had a few tickets

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in his time.

I have had a run in. I

had a run in with a parking cowboy.

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But I won. I beat them. This is

essentially the way, this is about

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parking on private land, so you park

on private land and you get clamped

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or ticketed, and according to the

Express's front-page exclusive,

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rogue firms that do this will no

longer be allowed to use the DVLA

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database to hunt down innocent

drivers.

It is straightly extreme

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language.

Cowboys indicate John

Wayne riding in to liberate

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oppressed driver, they have a good

point. These companies are using

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DVLA records in order to chase

people down. I didn't know people

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were allowed to access that, that is

being stopped. They are issuing 11

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tickets every minute, if that is

stopped that has to be a good thing.

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Everybody recents getting a parking

ticket. The idea of parking, being

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privatised in this way, people will

recent than any way. What is the

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idea, the state should do it all?

I

think what we are talking is parking

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on private land and often these

things, I am not speaking from birth

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personal experience here.

Is the

counselling working?

I'm moving on.

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The signage often is not clear, or

they are overzealous. This is

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obviously a blow for freedom and

liberty! Fighting back against

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cowboys. Maybe it will be different

when we leave the European Union.

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Let us finish off on a story about

Swindon's Macey ready for Oscar

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close up. That is the Sunday Times

newspaper, there we go. There is...

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A lot of mentions today. I can't

think why actually! Macey changed

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her mind about what she wants to

wear to the Oscars.

Heart-warming is

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a dreadful overused word but I am

going to say this is a heart-warming

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story because it is a six-year-old

girl from Swindon, and she 's the

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youngest ever deaf person ever to be

involved in an Oscar-winning film.

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The previous youngest winner was

Shirley Temple who was also six, but

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this is a very very powerful film

about a young girl, who feels locked

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out of the rest of the world because

she's not born into a deaf family,

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as nine out of ten children are,

she's isolated in that world, and

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trying to make her way and it's just

awe very very touching story about a

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young girl making her mark on the

world, and proving that anything is

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possible to her. I think that is a

really great message.

I haven't seen

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the film but it seems moving. What

is interesting she is the fourth

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generation in her family, to be

deaf, you know so we are talking

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about the film, but there are

serious points here about how you

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know, problems, the parents have

faced in getting treatment for her

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or schooling for her, they had to

move from Cornwall to skin don --

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Swindon so she could attend school

with specialist support. Anything

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like this that puts a spotlight on

the problems or the issues or the

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challenges that deaf children face I

think is welcome.

He is going to be

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the most famous person from Swindon.

All I know about Swindon is it has

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the most round about s of any city

in Europe. That is a better story.

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She will be in the headlines many

years to come.

You are be deluged

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from people...

Billie Piper is from

Swindon. Melinda messenger. What a

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surprise, a journalist who is wrong.

It is a great story, she will be

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famous.

I have always enjoyed my

visits to Swindon he adds hastily.

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You are getting a letter from the

mayor of Swindon.

I will have to

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apologise like Boris Johnson.

The

man who said this this town is just

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about round abouts. Good to talk to

you, thank you for being with us.

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Goodbye from us.

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