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That's all the sport for now.

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Now on BBC News it's

time for The Papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look

ahead to what the papers

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are bringing us today.

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With me are Katy Balls, political

correspondent at The Spectator,

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and the journalist and broadcaster

Shyama Perera.

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Let's have a look at some

of the front pages.

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The Observer leads on comments

from a former head of the civil

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service, who makes a scathing

comparison between some brexiteers

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and German nationalists

between the world wars.

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Theresa May will face a coup

from cabinet brexiteers,

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if she persists with plans to remain

in the customs union,

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according to the Sunday Times.

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And more Brexit on the The Sunday

Telegraph which says

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the Prime Minister is being urged

to invoke the example

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of Margaret Thatcher

and defy her chancellor over Brexit.

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The Express accuses Jeremy Corbyn

of environmental hypocrisy,

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claiming he left a diesel car

waiting outside his house for 40

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minutes before getting in for a six

mile trip to Westminster.

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Meanwhile the Mirror has an image

of the Health Secretary,

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Jeremy Hunt, taking a nap

in a hotel, which the paper claims

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was taken while thousands

marched through London,

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calling for more NHS support.

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There we are, a snapshot of the

newspaper front pages. Katy, let's

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kick off with Brexit, Brexit, Brexit

on the front pages. Don't let

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Hammond ruin Brexit.

I think it is

an understatement to say tensions

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are running high over Brexit. We

have the two big meetings next week.

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The Cabinet are meant to be

thrashing out a position. I'd then

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think it's hugely surprising that

Bernard Jenkins has said that the

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Chancellor is frustrating the

process.

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The head of Waitrose...

We are still

quite away down the track and we are

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still trying to work out what kind

of Brexit it is going to be. I

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suppose that is why we are getting

all this arguing.

We and it's

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interesting that Bernard Jenkins is

the latest voice saying we should

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not be so vague, but an unknown

source, a senior Brexiteer is quoted

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as saying in the piece that there

are far more of us than there are

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Tory Remainers in the Commons and we

are the ones who can pull the temple

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down. I found that confusing because

I thought it was the temple of

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Brexit we are building and if it is

going to be pulled down, what will

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we be left with?

Maybe they are

talking about the temple of Theresa

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May's government?

If we are going to

use the divine as a metaphor, the

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reason that they haven't been able

to find a way forward is because

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someone on high wants to abandon the

whole plan.

Sticking with the temple

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metaphor, there are Brexiteers in

the Sunday Times who want to create

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a new temple, I suppose. This is a

dream number ten with Boris Johnson

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and Michael Gove.

These are new

tenants that can move into the

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temple if the current ones don't

live unto it! A softer Brexit is

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being discussed, which would mean a

customs union of some sort. If she

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does that, there is this idea that

they will get rid of her and they

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will move in the three Brexiteers.

Gove would be the deputy, but only

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if he remembers not to stab Boris

Johnson in the back again. I don't

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think this is everyone's version of

a dream.

A nice picture of them as

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the three Musketeers, the three

Brexiteers.

We could have Boris made

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up, we saw that piece of Gary

Oldman's make up. We could have a

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better representation.

People talk

about Theresa May's weakness. Is she

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staying put for now?

I think she is.

I think she is trying to get us to

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the next election without a

decision, without a proper plan, so

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we are forced to go back to the

country. I feel she has lost the

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appetite for it, but she is very

good at keeping everybody sort of

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trailing behind, complaining,

dreading the satchels in the sand,

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but they still do their homework and

turn up at 9am the next morning.

She

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is trying to keep this fragile

coalition within her government

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together.

The way she became to the

Prime Minister is because she was a

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reluctant remain them. There is a

point in this please which is

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basically if she were to go for a

softer Brexit, and I think the

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Brexit camp at the moment being led

by Jacob Rees Mogg, they are the

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type who would call for a confidence

vote. Ultimately it will go above

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her.

Last story on Brexit. This is

Lord Turnbull.

He is aligning the

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naysayers

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with the Nazis in Germany. He is

saying the attacks on the Civil

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Service are, if you like, following

a pattern, which ultimately led to

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national socialism. I suspect that

might be overstating it, but when

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you look at what is happening in the

rest of the world, perhaps it is

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not.

Katy, what do you think about

that?

Once you compare tactics with

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anything with the word Nazi in it,

you are into territory that is over

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the top. There is a growing problem

between the Civil Service and the

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government we have seen that this

week with Liz information. I don't

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regard this as helpful.

It's making

a hard job even harder. The Sunday

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Telegraph. Uma Thurman, Harvey

Weinstein, more allegations that he

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allegedly attacked her as well.

Shyama, this is something that she

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has hinted about before and now she

has given chapter and verse about

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it.

Yes, and the report she gives is

very similar to others, he exposed

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himself, he jumped on her.

Apparently she broke down in the

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middle of an interview when she was

retelling the story. I'm curious

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about the timing. She could have set

this up front. I don't know if it is

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strategic and she is doing it to

keep the argument alive,. I'm not

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entirely sure what it adds to what

we know. It's interesting to know

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that Uma Thurman was one of the

victims. It shows that no one was

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about being attacked by Weinstein,

assuming at this point that all

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these allegations have foundation.

She says she feels bad for not

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protecting other women. I suppose

different women feel differently

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about what they want a say in public

regarding what happened to them.

We

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had lots of leading actresses who

have now, and spoken. They talk

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about the guilt, they should have

used the position of power, but it

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tells you about his monopoly on the

industry. Someone like Uma Thurman,

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or Angelina Jolie, they feel they

can't say anything.

These are

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isolated events and may be the

subject just believes that it is

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only happen to them. It's only when

someone else brings it up it starts

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to snowball.

If these are all true,

why is he currently just in therapy?

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It doesn't quite seem right.

The

Sunday express. We have a story

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about Jeremy Carbone. They say he

uses a toxin pumping diesel car and

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leaves it on the yellow line for 40

minutes.

Are you outraged by that?

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I'm quite low energy today and could

not get that outraged. Lots of

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people see Jeremy Corbyn as this

left-wing messiah, this saint. The

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fact he has taken this car which is

diesel, it goes against his

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principles. It's interesting that

they have come up with alternative

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routes for him to get to work.

He

can use the tube or the bus.

Or

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cycle. But there are security

issues.

But they miss the main

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point. Apart from having described

in great detail the spec of a Ford

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Galaxy, the car is actually provided

by the government car service. So in

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fact it is not Jeremy Corbyn who is

using it.

It is not his decision.

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No, it is the government's. It is

only being done for safety reasons

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because they decided he should not

cycle into work any more because it

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was a security risk.

Another

personal story about a politician if

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you like is in the Sunday Mirror.

Gerry Mahar nes having a nap. They

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are making something about how he

was sleeping at a spa Hotel while

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NHS demonstrators were out on the

streets demonstrating.

I think this

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is slightly unfair. Whatever you may

think of Jeremy Hunt, he has a fall

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asleep at his desk or in the

Chamber. Maybe it is a sign that

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he's working very hard in his day

job that by the time it gets to the

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weekend he can't stay awake. This is

about NHS funding and if you speak

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to people in the party and in

covenant, Jeremy Hunt is lobbying

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for more funding. It's not that he

is going against them.

I think it's

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unfair. So should he be allowed a

little keep every now and again?

Of

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course. He is probably exhausted.

Maybe the mirror committee was

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watching the demonstration on BBC

News. Maybe he fell asleep when he

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was watching it on BBC News.

I doubt

that very much. If he was watching

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cars would not fall asleep.

It is

the mirror of the Jeremy Carbone

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story. Just having a pop at someone.

Let's end on an upbeat note. The

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Spice Girls are reuniting for a £50

million tour. Posh is going to sing

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and make even perform at Harry and

Meghan's wedding.

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They are embodying global Britain.

Girl power!

Are you a big fan? I was

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a big fan. At school we used to pick

one to be.

Who were you?

I was posh.

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But I think maybe posh is doing this

because it is financial.

If you

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enjoy singing, I saw them once at

the O2 when they did the last

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reunion and she sang the least. She

probably sign a couple of tiny solo

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bits, and the worst. Interestingly

though the crowd went wild when she

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did something. The other four, not

so much. She just opened her mouth

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and the crowd went wild.

Would you

go to the concerts now?

Yes. I

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wouldn't batter my way to get the

tickets...

If someone offered you a

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free ticket?

It depends.

Good luck

to the Spice Girls. As we said,

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global Britain in action. Thank you

both. Great to have you with us.

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That's it for The Papers

this morning.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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And if you miss the programme any

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evening, you can watch it

later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you Shyama and Katy.

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Goodbye.

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