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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
With me are Michael Booker,
deputy editor of Daily
Express and Rachel Shabi,
journalist and broadcaster.
Many of tomorrow's front
pages are already in.
The i says Theresa May has been
given the go-ahead by the Treasury
to cut tuition fees.
Calls for the two British so-called
Islamic State fighters,
to face trial at the Hague
leads the Telegraph.
The Daily Mail says that one
of the British jihadis
was attempting to travel back
to the UK.
The FT leads with the strong stance
made by the Eu's Chief
negotiator for Brexit,
that a transition deal
is "not a given".
The Guardian claims safety breaches
at laboratories could have exposed
scientists to potentially lethal
The FT leads with the strong stance
made by the EU's Chief
negotiator for Brexit,
that a transition deal
is "not a given".
The Express carries comments
from a Bank of England official,
who says that Britain will be
robust after Brexit.
So a first look at Saturday's
papers, thank you both for joining,
let's hear what you make of some
of those stories.
Let's start with that story in The
Daily Mail which asks whether the
jet had a Briton was sneaking back
home. What is your take on this one?
It is particularly focusing on one
of the two Britons, Alexanda Kotey,
who were captured. They've tried to
give it as much as a British related
angle as possible. It taps into the
fear that with the Islamic State
being routed in Syria, a lot of the
guys and women who went over there
to fight for them are going to try
and come back and subsequently there
could be terror attacks here. We
understand they are being quizzed by
the Americans, the CIA and our
intelligence as well to see... About
Isis and about plots coming here. I
think that's the way The Mail have
done it in that way, because there
is that fear that people could be
getting through. They clearly didn't
get through, they are safely in
custody, thank God. Now is the
question about what to do with them.
The Telegraph have looked at that
and are saying the defence ministers
say they should not go to Guantanamo
Bay but there should be some special
mechanism in The Hague to try them.
A lot of questions still about these
It looks like it could be a
possible conflict between the UK and
the US. The US backed Syrian
democratic forces captured these two
men who were Islamic State fighters
and Trump has indicated they should
go to Guantanamo Bay. Of course,
Britain won't be happy about that
although there is some division in
cabinet I understand. In principle
Britain has been opposed to
Guantanamo Bay and will be trying to
get people out of there, not put
more people into it. There was also
the bigger question of its really
important with something like this.
Obviously these were appalling
crimes committed by Islamic State
and it's an important part of the
aftermath of war to have justice to
be visibly done. It's an important
part of any kind of aftermath and
what happens next in those
countries, as well as setting a
standard that is different from
Islamic State. We have a system of
justice, justice will be done
through the courts. That is a value
that we think is important. It's
important to have that in this
particular conflict and issue I
The families of victims won't
have much sympathy for how they are
said very much they want to see them
facing a proper trial.
thing is, if you go to The Hague
does that give them a legitimacy as
an army rather than criminals?
is picking up The Daily Telegraph
which says they should face a trial
at The Hague. This is by Tobias
Ellwood his own brother was killed
in a terrorist attack.
suggested because of the scale of
this that there needs to be a
special mechanism with The Hague.
Just thinking, is that giving them
this legitimacy of a proper army.
They did try one of the world's most
famous war criminals.
I think a lot
of people will be happy to see them
extradited to America where they
could face the death penalty in
At this point it is
important for a country who believes
in its democratic values as distinct
from the lawlessness and the
appalling crimes committed by
Islamic State, it's important to
make that distinction visibly clear
in a way we execute justice.
were extradited to America, that's
American justice if they do face the
death penalty after that.
We aren't sure if they
are, if they have had their
citizenship revoked we are duty
bound to stand in the way of
extradition which is something the
government and saying what they are
doing at the moment.
It appears the
signals coming out that these two
have both been stripped of their
British citizenship. That presumably
makes a trial here less likely.
all know the problems with
Guantanamo, one of the issues was
the double standards. You're going
to criticise things that are done in
the Middle East and then you're
going to behave in that way in
Guantanamo with all the torture and
atrocities. That's not necessarily
something that we want to be seen...
There is a hypocrisy there that we
need to eliminate.
generally, the man and woman in the
street might not have a huge amount
That's why the man
and woman in the street and in the
judiciary. That's why we have a
America has a process and
it could end up with them in
That's the dilemma
Moving on from there, closer to
home we've got the IP per -- we've
got the i Paper talking about
tuition fees. This is obviously an
issue where Labour has made a lot of
This is the Conservative
attempt to try and claw back some of
the youth vote that it has
haemorrhaged, where young people is
anyone under the age of 46. Even if
they manage, the Treasury has
signalled approval for this policy,
even if Theresa May manages to
follow through with any kind of
policy at the moment which is
debatable given her paralysis and
track record, we then have to look
at why would anyone fall for this
kind of lowering of tuition fees
when you could have the real thing,
a complete cut, with the Labour
Party. The other issue is given the
Conservatives aren't going to raise
taxes, how are they going to fund
any reduction in fees. The worry is
that it will come from the schools
They have a problem with their
budgeting in the way that the Labour
Party doesn't as well.
There is a
key line which says decision on
lower cap rests with Theresa May.
Decision and Theresa May, we haven't
seen a lot of those.
Mr Hammond has
fallen out with her a lot recently.
Me and my brother wouldn't have been
able to go to University of wit had
to pay these fees. £6,000 is still
huge amount of money for people.
They are saying this is because of
the cost of writing off unpaid...
You can still not pay off a student
loan of £6,000 as well. It's going
to take a lot to get to those
levels, earnings wise. So whether
this is a brilliant idea, we don't
know. I can't see people flocking to
the polls for this.
The idea seems
to be that they are happy for this
to happen, the Treasury, because of
the cost of writing it. Presumably
that's because very few graduates
are earning above the threshold to
actually start to repay the money.
That's the other problem. Students
are being hit at every turn. On the
one hand we have the highest level
of, or the second highest of student
loans, like the amount is completely
punishing the students. On the other
hand to come out of university with
a degree and then the problem is
finding a job with any kind of
sustainable living income. It's a
double hit for young people.
have a look at The Daily Mirror.
This is another story about problems
with the parole system.
stuff about John Warboys over the
last few weeks. This is another one.
This is James Yates who was given 12
years for supplying the gun which
killed Rhys Jones in 2007. He was
released on licence so few years
ago. Then he was subsequently
rearrested for drugs offences. They
were dropped but it also breached
bail. Now there has been a decision
by the parole office to let him out.
Understandably the father of Rhys
Jones is furious. He says he was the
worst of the lot because he gave
them the garden. I think we'll get a
lot of the stories because people
are always going to come up for
parole and it's always going to be
controversial given what's happened
with John Warboys.
Moving on, and
looking at The Express in a moment.
One story that doesn't seem to have
made the front pages is the fact
you've actually been taken over.
How's that gone down?
Is quite an
exciting time, I'd recommend being
part of a takeover at least once in
By The Mirror, a group
not known to share the political
outlook of The Express.
As long as
you keep your politics apart it's
quite easy to do. It's exciting
times in newspapers, we'll see what
happens. Two great names getting
together, I'm sure it will be fine.
Brilliant. On that note, Rachel, The
Express front page is saying Brexit
Britain will be robust which of
course reflects The Express' view on
You wonder if this will still
be the view. You've got to hammer it
home with the exclamation point.
This is according to a senior Bank
of England official who today said
that we are going to be fine,
everything is going to be fine. If
we live without, if we leave with a
deal, it's all going to be fine, we
don't need to worry.
what our readers think and that's
what we tried to do. We hear every
day from them, phone calls, letters,
e-mails, that they think it's going
to be fine. It's nice to have...
That's a feeling.
This is also from
the deputy governor of the Bank of
Also a feeling.
to report something!
Express has picked up on this at a
time when we've had this powerful
intervention by Michel Barnier. The
FT on its front page has got a
write-up on this, saying the Brexit
transition is not a given. This was
Michel Barnier today's.
this all week. You get the feeling a
pattern is emerging with these
negotiations. It feels like we saw
this kind of interaction in the
first stage of being English
editions as well, both sides saying
that's unreasonable. The other side
says you're being unreasonable. It
seems to go back and forth like
that. Actually it is not to detract
from the fact this is quite
significant. The transition period
is very important to commit to as
soon as possible because, as we saw
with the pound dropping today, it
does lead to insecurity in the
business world and the business
community not knowing that this
transition period in which things
will remain unchanged is definitely
going to happen and for how long.
Pretty strong words from Michel
There were strong
words in the last set of talks. It
seems like him and David Davis are
like two boxes getting back in the
ring for another round and they will
trade some blows, we think it will
go to the last few seconds and then
funnily enough they operate so let's
have another round. You get the
impression there seems to be this
rhythm to it. But there are some
serious sticking points. They are
talking about falsehood is on rights
for people from the EU -- full
citizen rights. And this idea we
could be punished and kicked out at
various points if we break certain
rules during transition. It's the
start of round two and we'll have to
get used to this.
It is a weird
request for Britain. Surely the
point of a transition period is
things are moral less and changed.
The idea of introducing another tier
of circumstances for EU citizens in
the transition period and then
again, it seems like an awful way to
treat a lot of people.
something they have to sort out.
They'll come back with something
else and meet somewhere in the
The other issue Michel
Barnier raised was this question of
the Northern Ireland border, saying
if we are going to be outside the
customs union and the single market,
then he's saying a border between
Northern Ireland and the republic is
Going back to Theresa
May, all of the Brexiteers and the
Cabinet haven't decided what they
want from the end of Brexit. They
are supposed to be going away to
sort this out. I'm not sure they
know exactly what they are asking
for at the moment. There is still a
You can see Michel
Barnier is saying we thought you
would have told us by now exactly
how this was going to work, we are
expecting you and then you've
suddenly taken it off the table this
week. If you're not going to tell us
we will have to assume Northern
Ireland will remain in the customs
union and single market because
that's the only way to resolve it in
the absence of any suggestion from
you. I can't see how that will play
with Northern Ireland and the DUP
because it would put a border
We thought we had sorted
this out the other week!
Barnier says, the clock is ticking.
The Telegraph has a fantastic
picture on its front page. This is
another one of the stories we've
been discussing, the opening of
those Winter Olympics with the
combined North and South Korean
We've got Mike Pence, the vice
president of the United States and
behind him the sister of Kim
Jong-un. That's all she is known as
is his sister. She's a despot in
harrowing right! -- in her own
right. That's the sister smiling
beatifically. Mike Pence ignored
this dinner that certain North
Korean dignitaries were invited to
and so had he. He's not talking to
them. It's a slightly childish
It looks as though he's a bit
embarrassed by the whole thing is.
Because I'm so obsessed with the
weather at the moment because it's
freezing, I've been watching and the
journalists apparently have heat
packs but in the ceremony some of
the performers as well as the
athletes, some in shorts, one of
them is bare-chested...
diplomatic repercussions of the
combined North and South Korean team
hasn't been uppermost in your mind!
It's amazing, obviously!
gripped by it rather than thinking
he wants to get out of there!
cold as well.
He had a smile fixed
on his face. It was a huge,
spectacular ceremony with fireworks.
And in terms of diplomacy, a massive
Shaking hands with
President Moon, a huge big thing.
Whether at the end of the Olympics
everyone is still friends again,
we'll see but I'm not betting on it!
They've been told by the US not to
Another story on the
front page of The Telegraph,
smartphones will get you off the
The NHS is designing healthy
homes in ten new help the towns.
Lots of monitoring, smart technology
and new homes, remote monitoring of
people, sensors to tell you when you
should be doing more and to tell you
to do more steps. In these towns
there will be free bikes, outdoor
Is that your
This is brilliant. On
every street corner and outdoor
assault course. You'll be bringing
into work saying I can't come in,
I'm stuck on a rope ladder! People
will be revolting. We don't want
people ringing us up in the middle
of the night saying you want to
bring enough steps!
That's it for The Papers tonight.
Don't forget you can see the front
pages of the papers online
on the BBC News website.
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Thank you Michael and Rachel.