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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are historian

and Daily Telegraph writer

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Tim Stanley and Daily Mirror

columnist Susie Boniface.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in...

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Let's take a look at them.

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The meeting between Donald Trump

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and Kim Jong Un leads the FT -

with claims it was a

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snap Trump decision.

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Meanwhile the i says the proposed

face-to-face meeting

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has stunned the world.

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And The White House says

Donald Trump will take a hardline

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position with North Korea,

according to the Guardian.

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The search for clues

in the investigation

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into the attempted murder

of the former Russian spy

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and his daughter leads the Mirror -

with a picture of police

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at the grave of Skripal's wife.

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Threats of a cyber war

between the UK and Russia lead

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the Express.

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The Daily Mail warns

that parking charges

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could rise by up to 45%

in some areas as councils

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try to manage their budgets.

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The Sun leads with reports that

actress Liz Hurley has returned

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to the UK after her nephew

was reportedly stabbed.

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So, the meeting between Kim Jong-un

and Donald Trump takes centre stage

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in most of the papers along with the

spy story from Salisbury. Starting

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with the Daily Mirror, and this

stark image, it says, poisoned spy,

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clues from the grave, saying that

police have examined the graves of

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Skripal! Wife and sun amid fears

that they were poisoned. We have not

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heard that information efficiently

but there is a lot of speculation

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about the death of other members of

his family?

That's right. And before

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we came on Susie was providing a

very good explanation of why they

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might have gone to this particular

graves.

The problem is that we know

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so very little about what is going

on, so all we have is a series of

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dramatic images of police officers

in these ridiculous chemical suits

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and tents overgrazed. They're not

talking about eggs you mean anybody

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is as yet, because that would be a

publicly and the coroner would have

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to be involved. What they are doing

is examining the grave, because

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Sergei Skripal's daughter is known

to have visited him because it was

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the anniversary of her brother's

death. They are known or expected to

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have visited his brave on the

anniversary of his death and his

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mother is also buried nearby. So

they are examining those graves to

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try to find the way by which the

nerve agent was administered but was

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it in some flowers, was it on the

grave, was it something they touched

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or eight, or as they have done in

the restaurant and the pub, how did

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the agent get onto them? It is an

incredibly hard thing to establish,

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presumably.

It could be anywhere?

Exactly. And these images are going

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to be quite alarming to the people

living in Salisbury. I have been

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thinking while all of this were

going on, if this were America, a

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honour would have called a press

conference by now to explain to us

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in great deal what is taking place.

There could be lots of reasons why

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that is not going on but until then

come it looks like Chernobyl. Some

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of these images are quite

frightening because they are going

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to, it paces. We are reassured that

because these agents tend to

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degrade, they pose no threat to the

public. They are trying to find the

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source of it so that they can figure

out what was going on. One reason

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why they might not be leading us

through the evidence, as we might

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expect, could be because they are

living it up to the politicians to

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take charge of that, because this is

after all likely to be a political

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story as well as a criminal

investigation. Nevertheless we are

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left trying to piece together for

ourselves what is going on from the

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little we are told and the images

that we see. And I think that when

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all this is over some people are

going to raise concerns about the

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fact that the public has not been

kept as informed as we might want to

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be.

And the fact that the military

have been sent into Salisbury,

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seeing that, although it might be to

try to reassure people... On the

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contrary! It is the military who in

recent years in Afghanistan and Iraq

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have had the most expertise in

chemical weapons and nerve agents,

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so that is why they are there,

because they're the experts are. But

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the history of politicians getting

bricked first in these kind of cases

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is patchy and bad. There is a

political element to this but it is

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a crime.

And part of what these guys

are doing probably is, as they did

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with Alexander Litvinenko, trying to

trace the polonium-210, across

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London and into hotels and

eventually to the teapot itself,

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that is what they did and they will

be trying to do the same thing

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around Salisbury, trying to find the

traces of where the nerve agent

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might have been so that they can pin

it on to one individual who was in

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one of those places at various

times. But frankly if it is that

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safe and it has degraded, why do

these guys have to wear these suits?

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Is it because they are afraid their

faces are going to melt off? And if

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that is the case then it is not as

safe as they're saying. So Tim is

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right. Seeing as we are all aware

that it is very likely Russia, there

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is no political reason why they

cannot give us more information, as

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they would do if it was anybody

else, let's face it.

It is

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reasonable to infer that the reason

why one might use a nerve agent like

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this is to create panic and to send

a message. It is frightening to

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think that because somebody

routinely goes to a grave once a

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year one might put the agent on that

grave and kill them that way, it's

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really quite frightening. These

visuals underscore that message.

Do

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you think this could be extended? We

had MPs this week calling for the

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opening of the investigation into 14

other cases. Talking about a number

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of other people who have come from

Russia and who have died and people

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say it was supposed to be natural

courses but some people are saying

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it needs to be reopened?

I suspect

so. It gains added political

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salience from these images, because

if a foreign power is using a nerve

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agent to kill its critics abroad, as

well as that being totally

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unacceptable and criminal, if they

have put members of the British

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public at risk as well, and some

people are talking about this as an

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actor of war, this is very, very

serious.

It is almost an act of war

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which has been perpetrated by a

state upon which we are reliant for

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many of our gas supplies and for

keeping peace on the other side of

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the EU and upon which we are reliant

for our own property market, because

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so much money comes into London and

spreads through the country as a

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result of. It is an impossible

situation for the politicians to be

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in if it is Russia which is

responsible. Perhaps that is why

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they want to sit on it. There are

people who are concerned and if

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someone from a foreign nation is

able to reach across here and put

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his finger on somebody and

extinguish their life... That is

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terrifying.

Let's move on to the FT

and another story which is on the

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front of lots of papers, as you

would imagine. This is the idea that

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President Trump and Kim Jong-un

might meet face-to-face. The meeting

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was a snap Trump decision, it says

here.

Thursday night was I think the

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most interesting and exciting night

yet in the trap presidency.

Tim,

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pour you!

Well, I always disregard

all the soap opera stuff, all the

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Russia staff! What is Melania Trump

wearing?!

Within 24 hours, Trump

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signed an order slapping tariffs on

steel and aluminium, and a couple of

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hours later South Korea's

national-security adviser stood in

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front of the west wing and announced

that Trump had agreed to a meeting

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with Kim John Barnes of this is

really quite significant. He is not

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the first president to be invited to

meet the North Korean leader. He is

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the first sitting president to agree

to do it in principle. One suspects

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that one reason why it was left up

to the South Koreans to announce it

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is so that the administration at

some point in the future duck out of

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it if it wishes.

And in the last 24

hours the administration has been

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making it very clear that it is

keeping the pressure on and North

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Korea has to make clear concessions

before the meeting goes ahead.

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Nonetheless, a timetable has been

set. It was said in the announcement

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that he would meet him by me. So,

this is happening very, very

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quickly. And it has the potential to

turn this situation around. This is

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a genuine diplomatic coup. And the

South Koreans were very clear that

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it was down to the pressure that

Trump had put on the North Korean

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regime. If he pulls this off, this

is the beginning of turning all our

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perceptions of the Trump

administration around.

Is that the

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prize that he has got?

That's the

prize.

There's a lot of ifs. As you

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said when you started, this is the

idea. We have the idea. We have had

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the idea that he comes to Britain

for a state visit, the idea that

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he's going to build a wall. None of

these things have yet happened. Kim

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Jong-un has renegade on every

international promise he has ever

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made, flat. -- has reneges to. My

lifetime in journalism has taught me

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that if you want to understand a

story, try and work out who benefits

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from it. Who benefits from Kim

wanting to offer to stop testing and

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meeting Trump. Kim benefits, not

Trump so much. Kim is the one who is

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strong and who has made the reach

across. Trump is in a weakened

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position when he says yes. What

happens next. How can they both come

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away from it being the strong man

for their citizenry? They can't both

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win out of that summit, it would be

very, very typical. So I think the

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chances of it actually happening are

fairly slim and you have to remember

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that every time Trump agrees to do

something he changes his mind fairly

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quickly on many things. It would be

very easy for Kim if Trump says

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something on Twitter one day to

withdraw the application and then it

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is Trump's fault.

Again there are

things which Trump has changed his

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mind about, nobody is denying that,

but there are other things he has

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been consistent on. He said during

the campaign, I will protect

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American jobs - he has done it. And

he has consistently said he was

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prepared to meet Kim Jong-un. It was

missed but he actually said last

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Saturday at a dinner that he would

meet him. He made a joke about it.

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He said, I will go and meet Kim

Jong-un and people talk about the

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dangers of meeting a madman but that

is just a risk that Kim Jong-un is

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going to have to take! He has got a

good sense of humour! Let's be

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realistic. It is not in Kim's best

interests to give up the nuclear

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programme is in that is what keeps

him in power and what keeps the

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world's attention. For him, the win

is that America backs off, and for

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America it is that the American

president has helped to reduce

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tension in the Korean peninsula.

Moving on, the Saudi prince who has

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been here this week, red carpet

rolled out, leaves the UK with a

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hint of finally landing Typhoon

gets.

Again, it is an idea! Another

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bit of PR brilliance. When we have

visits by foreign dig trees,

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agreements they sign while they are

here are agreed in advance. What's

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happened here is that the Saudi

prince has met with the Defence

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Secretary and written a memo of

intent, in other words, yeah, I will

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have some planes! Don't worry about

the price, we will agree that

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another time. That his all that has

happened. Added to which the Saudis

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have been saying this for the last

four yes. We need to sell Thai fax,

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BAE Systems, we don't sell very many

and we need to give the company

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going, so they have done something

which has boosted our position. The

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BAE Systems share price has gone up

as a result but all it is is a

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promise that at some point in the

future we will spend billions. I

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could sign this memo and it would

mean the same thing!

We have had the

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Labour leader saying this is

unacceptable, we should not be doing

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this?

Britain's relationship with

Prince Mohammed is very, very close.

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There are only two foreign countries

which have continued to support

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Saudi Arabia so strongly, and that

is America and Britain, and it is

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partly because of this, because we

sell them so much stuff, which

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raises questions among those who

question that. It has been a week of

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extraordinary diplomatic

turnarounds. He has try to give the

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impression that he has forward

looking, he wants to move away from

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oil, granting women the right to

drive, putting himself forward as a

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progressive force and Britain also

to get that statement of intent as

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well so that Britain will have this

close economic relationship with a

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power which is not just a Draconian

feudal monarchy but one which is

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forward-looking. But frankly the

judgment of whether or not Saudi

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Arabia is really changing is whether

he gets out of Yemen, and he shows

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no signs of doing that.

Very

quickly, Daily Mail, counselling

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parking -- council parking charges

to sort.

This is a long-running

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story about local authority funding

and austerity since 2010 and the

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fact that council taxes have gone up

and many councils have few parts of

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the budget which they can increase

but now they have been told they can

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increase council tax due to the

social care crisis. The Daily Mail

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has done a story which says that one

of the parts of the budget they can

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automatically increase on their own

is car parking charges. The truce is

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that they may well increase by

45%...

The residents permits could

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be a lot more.

They could be, but

they're not going to get nearly as

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much from that as they will do from

council tax increases. So, this is a

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very small part of the budget. When

there is a cap on something

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somewhere you have to increase your

income from something else.

The kind

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of thing which will infuriate

people.

Absolutely, I recently

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passed my test and became a driver.

That's the most exciting thing which

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has happened this week!

I've been

driving for about nine months. It

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has changed my relationship with my

council, because I've realised

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that... All these potholes! My

beautiful, lovely card! Poor tilde

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is getting destroyed by these

potholes in the road! Council tax is

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already very repressive really, --

very progressive. It doesn't say

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anything about your income. -- very

regressive.

I think we could do a

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song about that!

Breaking news -

he's passed his driving test! And

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that is it from the papers

tonight's. That is for use seven

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days a week on the BBC website. And

if you missed the programme any

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evening you can watch it later on

the iPlayer. Thank you very much to

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Tim and to Susie. And good driving!

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