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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Former Trade Minister,

Lord Digby Jones and broadcaster

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and campaigner, Henry Bonsu.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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The FT reports that Facebook is set

to face questions from US regulators

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about how data from its users

were leaked to Cambridge Analytica,

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the UK company that worked for

Donald Trump's election campaign.

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The Guardian claims it laid a key

role in bringing him

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The I says Facebook's founder,

Mark Zuckerberg has been called

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to Parliament to give evidence

on privacy and fake news.

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The Daily Telegraph has an interview

with a British surgeon based

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who help direct operations

in the Syrian city of Aleppo

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via the web, who fears

that the hacking of his computer led

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to a hospital being bombed

by suspected Russian jets.

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The daily melts as a per plant to

transform care for the elderly was

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unveiled by Jeremy Hunt today.

Meanwhile the daily express says

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there are calls for the health and

social care Secretary to solve the

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care crisis at a social workers

conference.

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A mixture of stories there. But

plenty on Cambridge Analytica and

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Facebook. Of course. Digby, the eye,

let's start with them. The UK

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demands answers from Zuckerberg. He

seems to be in the dark on this. Do

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you think there will be answers from

Facebook from him?

Not from him. I'm

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not saying there'll satisfactory

answers, but I think Facebook will

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deliver the usual general counsel or

operations directed to the select

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committee. I cannot see Zuckerberg

coming over. I think he should.

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Facebook is this lovely, wonderful

thing isn't it? The moment, that is

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what he enables is. I would hope

they would. One thing I think you

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should distinguish is between the

single domain essential part of this

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which was data given either

legitimately or intentionally by an

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organisation to another organisation

with or without consent, or with the

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same but for a different person,

purpose. Give that to an

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organisation to use it in a way

which others would want. The problem

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is I think the second part is going

to swap it. Which is it was used for

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Donald Trump. It will all be about

my modem. If it wasn't about to

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jumping somebody else have these

newspapers would make the same

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headline out of this. It is that bit

that they are all going wild about.

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I think it should be overran. The

thing they should be wild about is

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this organisation called Facebook

has let down the customers big-time.

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There are going wild about it.

People are getting very exercised

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about it on both sides. At the

Atlantic, we've got a millennial

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generation and people are casual

about sharing their data and putting

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every aspect of their lives on

Facebook, Twitter, on Instagram.

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Because they think there is no harm

as a result of it. What seems to be

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the case here is that people are

making huge amounts of money out of

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it, Facebook through advertising,

there are Gateway companies that use

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global research and global science

research organisation run by

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haemorrhage in diversity, no

relation between him and cameras as

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analytical before they came knocking

and got the data from him. 270,000

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different protocols which lead to

all the friends of those 270,000

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people and that is why we get 50,000

profiles being harvested and being

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used possibly to target messages

towards the to do Trump supporters.

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Lets us show you the FT. They are

making the point that it is not just

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in Britain that there is pressure on

Facebook. It is US regulators as

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well.

The US have actually asked the

same thing before a committee, and

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expanding yourself. Something Henry

has just said I think, onto

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something here which is this will

lead towards a generation of

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millennial, understanding their data

is their own.

It's valuable.

And I

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think over a period of time you

might just get people making a

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decision to sell their data for

money, so they get the money not

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Facebook. Or they get the money not

Twitter. Or whoever.

Do you think

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people on so some idiot generally,

then a bit naive about the way they

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data is used as my almost putting

your whole life on something like

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Facebook.

Absolutely. I'm amazed at

just how much people are prepared to

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share with others. How casually they

are prepared to accept friends,

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people just soliciting a

relationship out of nowhere. I'm

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quite careful about who I accept

whether it is Almaden, Facebook or

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Instagram. Partly use Facebook these

days. When it comes to apps and I

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think people share rose via an app,

I think they got paid if you dollars

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for it. I'm very careful because it

does warn you that you are agreeing

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to share audio data, give this app

permission to tap into almost

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everything about you.

And remember

store cards and loyalty cards.

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Harvesting data.

In a store can work

out if you buy lots of green

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vegetables and you buy

apparel, it

starts to build a profile of what

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you are.

I'm sure you do buy lots of

green vegetables, don't you?

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Targeted ads to pop up on your

timeline. It it's a bit creepy.

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Let's go also to the FT, NHS pay

cap.

Well, isn't this good news.

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That at last we can say to nurses

who have deserved this for a long

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time, over three years at 6.5%, that

is the headline. It is not that in a

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year. It is 615% over three years.

It is about inflation, isn't it? --

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6.5% over three years. Acumen

relation to that, you get 6.5. The

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only downside of this will be that

some of the public sector who

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possibly as not as deserving as

nurses will turn and say, me too.

He

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makes it sound so trivial.

I'm not

trivial in the slightest, but with

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great respect a local full for the

assisted walks into a comp offer 40

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hours a week, in my view, is not as

deserving of a pay rise as a nurse

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working in a any at 3am.

Might be

something you would never get over

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in the morning.

That is not the

point. For once can we understand

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that in the public sector not

everybody is the same.

As goes to

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another story about nurses in the

telegraph. Henry, misconduct cases

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against nurses may be held in

secret. What is this about?

I think

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you will be very alarmed by this

development because the nursing and

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midwifery Council was to replace"

commerce in an adversarial fitness

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of practise processes with a system

in which most cases will be heard

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going postal orders". What they're

tried to encourage is for people,

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nurses in this tasty fess up if they

have made a mistake and not try to

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cover up their mistakes because what

we have seen time and again

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following successive inquiries is

that errors people have made and

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could have been learned from, why

they are being repeated because

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people are worried about losing

their jobs. Hopefully this will also

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be the case for doctors, too. Even

though if you are the victim or your

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child is a victim of this, you'll

want to see blood and justice.

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Digby, and of the story on the front

pages of the telegraph. Quite

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disturbing. David Knott is a surgeon

who has become very distinguished

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for his work in Syria. He is a

hackers may have led war crimes...

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By the way, you said but injustice.

This guy, that he of technology

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where he sits in front of the

computer screen elsewhere. And he

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actually held on an operation in a

bunker in Syria.

Incredible.

It

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takes every box. It is technology in

the best way. What he is saying, we

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must be careful he is alleging this,

but he is saying somebody hacked

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that while he was going on, and they

therefore got the Gordon as of the

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hospital in the bunker. Weeks later

it uses the words "Weeks later" they

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think Russian aircraft, except

possibly Russian in the piece. Big

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bunker busting bomb destroys the

hospital. They could only have copy

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location on board next through this.

-- they could only have gotten the

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location awkwardness through this.

Doctor using technology for all the

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right reasons, might have led to

hacking through the bad side of

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technology. Into the destruction of

the hospital.

It is distressing.

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Particularly for him because a very

red guy who has been to Aleppo

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himself and been underground and

taking the same risks as those

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doctor he is helping remotely

thousands of miles away from the

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safety and comfort of Britain. They

call him the Indiana Jones of

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surgery. He is building hugely high

esteem.

Trying to save lives and

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inadvertently maybe has led to the

loss of lives.

He is not going to be

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able to do this any more. It means

people on the ground who would stand

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to be held by someone Mike M, ones

who

are going to to pay the ultimate

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price.

This is an interesting story

in the mirror. A clinic, and

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assisted dying, suicide clinic in

the mirror called it. It could be

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set up on our doorstep. If there is

a vote in favour of a law change

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there.

Yes, if there is a vote. The

headlines looks like his is going to

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happen in the morning. The other

side of the English Channel.

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Actually is coming up for a vote in

May. While they are going to vote

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for is a consultation period of 18

months. Until there is a long way to

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go, and at the same time one student

and independent legislator do this.

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It is not part of the United Kingdom

although they have British

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passports. Interesting point in the

story, Switzerland is the only place

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by the way where you can do this for

money in that way. But the mirror

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also carry a pole. Is it right to

give people the choice to end their

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lives on assisted dying? There also

saying who is yes and who is no, not

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a problem. Matt Coles I'm sorry,

just opinions. The idea is that here

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are some people who say yes it

should happen and come up by the way

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what is the problem with it

happening and Guernsey. Other people

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say it should not happen. Wrong word

goal, but it is the rehearsed

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arguments about religion, about

ethics and morals.

Crucially about

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quality of life. And also there are

people who in their lives or have to

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choose to end their wives several

months before they otherwise might

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have because they have got to be

well enough to get onto a plane and

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go over, and it cost £10,000.

Rudy's

dad, Henry?

Increasingly toward

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legislation like this where people

with safeguards built in, if they

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feel they can no longer cope with

the conditions of life, that they

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are suffering, then perhaps to allow

them to do that.

And I'm with you.

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Of course the counter arguments are

that this could be abused.

Family

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waiting there to get rid of one for

the money.

People, especially young

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men, kill themselves in the most

catastrophic ways everything will

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day.

I think the location is not the

point. By the location is

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interesting to a newspaper is

because...

It brings it closer to

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home.

Also there is a Union flag

flying over it and all the rest.

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That is the interesting part of the

story. It awakens again...

You're

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not sure it is actually going to

happen.

It might, but not yet. The

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headlines are running as if it will

happen in the morning.

It is

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important to add the privy Council

still has the power to block it in

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this country. UK PLC as it were,

privy Council has the authority to

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block it.

Let's look at our last the

story of the evening. This is the

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very sad story about the northern

white rhino, about to face extension

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because the last mail, Sudan, has

sadly died.

Sudan, the name, not the

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country.

This is the inevitable pun.

The shame that he was the last mail

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and he is 45 years old. Died of

natural causes, well, he was

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actually euthanized. He could no

longer stand up, he was in great

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pain. The only two other northern

white rhinos are female, his

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daughter and granddaughter. So they

have got some DNA from him and they

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are trying to keep the species alive

but the problem is they cannot use

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it on his doctor or his

granddaughter because of species

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diversity.

But they are going to try

to grow a rhinoceros in a test tube.

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That actually is something I can't

get my mind around.

I think what

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they're doing, they're going to use

it...

Matt in the telegraph has a

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cartoon about the same subject. The

readers in the morning Will Stevens

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on the front page, to rhinos

standing and looking at an iPad. One

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says to the other "Is this a dating

app for northern white rhinos. I

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haven't swiped right yet also. " we

should say you have a tie with

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elephants. I do.

Species are here

before us.

And there is real danger

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to them.

We can all but this is the

last item on the news. I don't

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understand why, but at the end of

the day these fellows, elephants,

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are close to extension and parts of

the world simply because of human

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beings want in their ivory. And for

no other reason.

That right.

We

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really have got to get on top of

this. By the way, rhinos are close

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behind them.

Absolutely, only 35,000

left.

They are wonderful creatures.

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And they are big guys,.

There the

second biggest mammal, land mammal.

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Digby and Henry, thank you very much

indeed.

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That's it for The Papers tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you,

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bbcdot.uk/papers, and if you

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