Episode 13 The Phone Hacking Inquiry

its second phase: Examining the relationship between the police and

the press. There are examining a network of corrupt officials, not

just in the police force but across all facets of public life. When you

know that someone in your police service has held you down the line,

it is very hopeful. It is time to call in all those bottles of

champagne. -- it is very hurtful. In public we see journalists trying

to get stories and police trying to keep them in order. But what really

goes on between those who enforce the law and those who report on

him? It is Justice Leveson's job to find out as you open the second

part of his inquiry. On day 41, the focus on what police deed and did

not do about firm backing. Public concern may be expressed in one

sentence. The relationship between the police, the media and News

International in particular was at best in appropriate very close. And

was very close to being corrupt. Someone told Rebekah Brooks about

the investigation into phone hacking while it was already going

on. A hint that the hacking may not have been limited to one rogue

reporter, as the newspaper claimed. All these just one day after the

launch of a Sunday edition of The Sun. A police officer was heeding

an investigation into payments to what she called a network of

corrupted officials. There appears to have been a culture at the Sun'

of illegal payments and systems to facilitate them while hiding the

identity of the officials receiving the money. E-mails indicate that

payments to sources were openly referred to. The sauce is not named

but rather a category of public officials is that ended for it.

There is also Annan indication of her leading cash payments to

sources by making them out to a friend or relative of the source.

We arrest of an individual who had acted as a conduit. She spelled out

hurt allegations in the sort of detail you would not usually here

until the opening of a criminal trial. This was not about buying a

policeman drinks for a dinner but much more significant. Multiple

payments had been made to individuals amounting to thousands

of pounds. In one case over several years this amounted to in excess of

�80,000. Them and he is also a mention in some e-mails of public

officials being placed on retainers. One of the arrested journalists has

over several years received over one month and �50,000 in cash to

pay his sources, a number of him were public officials. The Met are

accused of being less vigorous when they prosecuted the private

detective Glenn -- Glenn Mulcaire here. Eight print-out from the

Glenn Mulcaire's computer when shown to somebody working on the

witness protection programme. It appeared to that officer and to the

sergeant working on the phone hacking investigation that it

included details of people under the witness protection programme.

People are their only put into the witness protection programme when

police believe their lives are at risk. Therefore, for this

information to be in the hands of Glenn Mulcaire and by implication

News of the World, that is clearly worrying. Another man who see Ched

in the files of Glenn Mulcaire. The Deputy Prime Minister had his

extra-marital affair exposed. Leyte he tried to find out whether Glenn

Mulcaire had targeted him and he said he got this response from the

senior Met Office said John Yates. On he said there was no evidence

against me at all for phone-tapping. He rang me and told me he was doing

a press conference saying that there was no evidence. I thought it

was unusual but I accepted it. I asked him to put it in writing and

it took him several weeks and another reminder to do so.

barrister for the enquiry it quoted from a police letter about the

notice of Glenn Mulcaire. The name Prescott appears on tomb' tax

invoices which we believe our News of the World to Glenn Mulcaire's

company. Later it emerged that News International had instructions on

how to listen to messages on the telephone of the personal assistant.

Why didn't they do more with the information they had at the time?

These are highly paid, highly intelligent people. I think there

is a conspiracy of silence to hide the facts. On day 42 per another

politician he became a tabloid target. This time when he ran to

become leader of the Lib Dems.. The sun had telephone records showing

that Simon Hughes had called a day chat line. There were revelations

that he had had sexual relationships with women and men,

and he feels that it had an impact on his political career. I went

from being the favourite to not winning. Police told it Simon

Hughes he had appeared in Glenn Mulcaire's notebook in 2006. The

full details only came out much later. They did not do say that he

had my private phone number at home. When Glenn Mulcaire was prosecuted,

much was not shared with the court. On the fact that the court did not

have before it information that was known to their police, Rebekah Wade,

Andy Coulson is a serious failure which meant that the court was

asked to do a job on the basis of in complete evidence.

This woman was known to the police after she appeared on Crimewatch.

She found herself and her family it under surveillance by News of the

World. Rebekah Brooks was asked why. She said we were under surveillance

because they were investigating suspicion that you were having an

affair with each other. Being as kind as I can I cannot think of why

that would be a valid reason for putting asunder surveillance. It

does not add up and is absolutely pathetic. The real reason is that

he suspects in the murder inquiry were using their relationship with

News of the World to intimidate herself and her husband and to

subvert the investigation. I think any reasonable person would find it

difficult not to put those facts together and reach the conclusion

that there was some connection between the murder of Daniel Morgan

and News of the World. Information she felt could only have been

leaked from the Metropolitan Police. I loved being a police officer and

I was extremely proud. Although I was aware of corruption and

malpractice, When you know that someone in your family, the police

service, has sold to down the line, it is very hurtful and very painful.

Christopher Jefferies was an innocent man arrested in a murder

investigation and then vilified in the press. They were convicted of

libel and had to make recompense. Appealing for a second time,

Christopher Jefferies said he suspected tip-offs there may have

started just after he volunteered to a second witness statement.

Sky News team were very keen to speak to me. Reporters and

photographers came to the address where I lived. They had somehow

heard about the content of that second witness statement. Once he

was arrested, he thought the police used allegations about him in the

media to guide their questions. legal counsel said he had been

puzzled by a certain lines of questioning and then discovered

they had been taking from gossip and allegations which had been

appearing in the press. Their chief constable at Avon and Somerset

police challenge as the Marounne's evidence. One Guardian journalist

responsible for allegations said that some police officers face the

threat of jail for talking to reporters without permission.

officers have been arrested and bailed, told they will be charged

with misconduct in a public office. To the best of my knowledge there

manky is no allegation of any kind of pride or inducement. No

allegation of the kind of harm I am talking about behind boundaries of

interfering with an ongoing inquiry. The offices are being told, you

will be charged and you can expect a term of up to 18 months because

you have spoken to a reporter without permission. As this enquiry

considered where bears the police and News of the World were to close,

it became evident that Rebekah Brooks was given a retired police

racecourse. That was before the Prime Minister was asked about the

walls in the unlikely setting of a One of them was the former police

horse which I did bride. I am sorry to hear the horse is no longer with

us. -- I did ride. I will not be getting back in the saddle any time

soon. On day three, it was argued that with only -- over 70

operations on the go, they did not spend too much time on phone

hacking. If we take this forward to a final prosecution and it gets

played out in court, given the fact that we are under huge pressure in

terms of our operations, how is it right that the anti-terrorist

branch is invest -- investigating resources to something that is not

terrorism. When they do go looking for more information, they met

stiff resistance. There was difficulty in conducting the search

at News International. Four of my officers got into the premises

before News International barred the rest of my officers from going

into News International. The officers were refused entry and

were left outside. Our officers were surrounded and not assisted in

any way. That search was curtailed. It did not go to the extent I

wanted it to. One officer was concerned that news it -- News of

the World staff may offer of violence. But News International

hold there was no question of anything like that. There was a

major development where it said James Murdoch stepped down from

News International so he could spend more time working on News

Corporation's television business. His father remains in control. On

day 44, the senior man of the net would make the key decisions that

mattered. He made them at first in the shadow of terrorism. -- the Met

Police. As the senior officer who decided not to widen its target

beyond one News of the World reporter, resources were stretched

as they dealt with more plots. you take one operation, we had many

surveillance teams allocated to the investigation. We used every single

surveillance team in London and most of those in the area around

London. That meant other serious crime was not being investigated.

Pressures like that played a big part in the call not to investigate

any more journalists. This decision was not even close. Not because of

the quality of the evidence, not because of the strategy, but

because I am coping with 70 terrorist operations of the

monumental scale in which you have described. So although in a

different world and a different time I might have liked to this, at

that time, at that place, this was not close. Now, that is a line that

you could take in which case this today it is utterly irrelevant. But

is that right? It is very close to being absolutely spot on. Whether

there was circumstantial evidence against journalists, it is a wider

consideration in comparison with the consideration of what poses a

threat to the lives of the British public. -- minor consideration. At

times it can be illegal and very distressing. But they do not kill

you. The Home Office received a brief -- brief from the neck on

phone hacking. There were questions about the investigation but even

that conversation happened at the margins of the meeting about

another terror plot. When the about phone hacking in 2009, it

fell to this man, John Yates, to look again at the issue and

establish the facts. The story led to his resignation. When he gave

evidence via video link, the inquiry heard a friend of John

Yates was given information. John Yates needed an exclusive/lime so

he called in all those bottles of champagne. -- splash line. One

interpretation is you were providing bottles of champagne and

it was time to call in a favour. You can see the point. Firstly, it

is not my e-mail. It is a turn of phrase. By October her throat --

20th October 10, the favours were never called him. The news of the

world's deputy editor was also a friend of John Yates. They were

friends and went to football matches together. He later worked

as a PR consultant at Scotland Yard. But John Yates was clear that not

be influenced him and he decided to take no further action on phone

hacking. The inquiry said that decision was made in just six hours.

This is a simple exercise. One of the number of exercises that the

commissioner deputy would ask me to do regularly. It was an article in

the newspaper. The fact that I cleared my diary and do something

relatively formal around this, recognising some of the challenges,

is actually different there many times you do it. It was an article

in a newspaper. Events may look different but give me the credit,

that is what it was. Like John Yates, Andy Hayman was a key figure

who was responsible for the original investigation into phone

hanging. John Yates' socialising came under scrutiny. You paid for

�566 of which just over �100 was spent on alcohol. That was on your

IMAX -- Amex card. I took employees who worked their socks off and do

not take holidays. I do that as a gesture of gratitude. Once again,

the subject of shampoo it -- champagne came up. It was a crime

reporter's business dinner. It started in a wine bar and just

before 10pm, is bent �47 on a bottle of champagne on your card. -

- you spent. When asked about it, you said you were called it was a

crime reporter's Association representative possibly from News

of the World. It could have been a figure whose name you did not know.

Is that correct? The only thing I ca cat is that it was not a

function or dinner. I cannot I said in interview, I will rely on

that representative might have been, could it have been Lucy Panton or

possibly Rebekah Brooks? I cannot remember. A few months after his

retirement, he got a contract with the times. A paper published again

by News International. I do not make the connection that I was

embarking... That I was still part of the use of the world. All of the

senior officers who gave evidence decisions they made. All of them