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And here in the East Midlands, should we get tougher with | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
uninsured drivers? Be boundary changes for MPs, do they make | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
sense? Where they make it even more difficult for the Lib Dems to claw | :00:42. | :00:52. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2132 seconds | :00:52. | :36:25. | |
It is good to be back. Coming up, is it time to get tougher with | :36:25. | :36:35. | |
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They are just scum. They do not give a second thought to the people | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
they could hit, injure, killed. redrawing of our parliamentary | :36:41. | :36:46. | |
constituencies. Ken Clarke has this message. My advice would be that | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
they should take a positive and sensible role, not just going | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
around moaning about your bad luck in the boundary changes. | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
We will be asking former Lib Dem MP Paul Holmes if the changes are | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
likely to make life even more difficult for his party in the East | :37:03. | :37:10. | |
Midlands. Many of us have reason to curse and | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
insured drivers. One of our MPs is asking us if we want tougher | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
penalties for hour offenders. He is fed up seeing so many of them | :37:20. | :37:30. | |
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before the courts. They should have been a fun-filled | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
family day out. Cameron Mcteir had taken his two young children to the | :37:36. | :37:40. | |
Sea Life Centre in Birmingham when out of the blue their car was hit | :37:40. | :37:50. | |
at speed by a band. Very frightening. -- hit by a van. My | :37:50. | :37:57. | |
two children burst into tears because of the impact. It was just | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
horrendous. Cameron Mcteir and his family suffered neck injuries and | :38:01. | :38:07. | |
whiplash. Their car was badly damaged and towed away. The van | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
driver gave a false name and address and had no insurance. How | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
has all of this left you feeling? Very angry because the person that | :38:14. | :38:20. | |
has done this has damaged my vehicle, injured myself, my son and | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
got away with it pretty much the Scot free. It is estimated that | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
well over a million drivers on the roads have no insurance. Put | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
another way, and this is a bit worrying, it means that one in 20 | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
of the cars currently hurtling towards me have no cover. | :38:37. | :38:44. | |
Altogether, the an insured accident black hole costs �500 million -- be | :38:44. | :38:52. | |
an insurance. It is covered really by you and me, adding another �30 | :38:52. | :38:57. | |
to every car insurance policy. is people are taking a chance and | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
unfortunately there are dire consequences if they are involved | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
in an accident because people who do pay their insurance because | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
there insurance premiums go up. It is us that takes the cost of the | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
uninsured drivers both in our increased premiums but also because | :39:12. | :39:17. | |
we have to pay for our cars to be fixed. Those costs are not just | :39:17. | :39:23. | |
financial. 160 people a year die in accidents involving an insured | :39:23. | :39:30. | |
drivers. A further 23,000 are injured. -- involving an insured | :39:30. | :39:36. | |
drivers. Since June, the tough new laws have led to hundreds of an | :39:36. | :39:41. | |
insured cars being seized, destined to be crushed in scrapyards like | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
this one in Leicester. Will crushing cars do anything to stop | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
those drivers who are hell-bent on deliberately driving without | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
insurance? Victims like Cameron Mcteir doubt | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
it. They are not bothered about anybody else. That is why they do | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
not insure their vehicles. There is no deterrent there for them to do | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
turn up -- insure them. If there was, perhaps more people would | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
insure their vehicles. I firmly believe that the magistrate should | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
have the powers to deter people from driving and insured. If you | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
cannot enjoy yourself, you should not be on the road. Karl McCartney | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
is asking drivers to send in their views for an online survey. He is a | :40:26. | :40:33. | |
magistrate. Both he and the AA already know that those who drive | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
with -- without being assured do not exactly get the book thrown at | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
them. The average fine is to London and �23 where as the average | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
premium is four times that amount. The courts have the power to give | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
fines of up to �5,000 but they rarely use those powers. We think | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
the courts ought to be a bit stricter because that is a massive | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
problem in terms of road safety and in terms of hiking up the premiums | :41:02. | :41:09. | |
of honest motorists. This is your vehicle. From a traffic officer | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
Keith Peat he now speaks of DriveEast Midlands, a motorist | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
pressure group now feels that tinkering around with bigger fines | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
is not enough. My first ice would be to not only give them a larger | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
fine but also you could be justified in banning them | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
permanently, for life, from driving. Some of these people are just going | :41:29. | :41:37. | |
to ignore that too? Second-time around, at long term in prison. | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
They have come had and repeated the offence and quite clearly they have | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
learnt nothing. The demands for tougher penalties are suddenly | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
growing. They are fully supported by its victims like Cameron Mcteir | :41:49. | :41:55. | |
who is still seething about his encounter with an uninsured driver. | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
They are just scum. It might be a bit harsh saying that but they do | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
not give a second thought to be people that they could possibly | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
potentially hit, injure, killed. That is why they do not insure | :42:07. | :42:17. | |
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their vehicles because they are Next, the Boundaries Commission | :42:19. | :42:24. | |
this week redrew the political map across our region. It may mean we | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
would lose two of our MPs. It has left many of our representatives | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
facing an uncertain future and many of us trying to make sense of the | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
new constituencies. This is the kind of challenge John Hess | :42:37. | :42:47. | |
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Coalville, one of the biggest towns in North West Leicestershire, a | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
constituency that faces being robbed of the parliamentary map. | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
Under Boundary Commission proposals, a new constituency would be created, | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
starting at Coalville and then stretching across this part of | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
Leicestershire like a banana shape, skirting around Loughborough, going | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
into Nottinghamshire and incorporating the Greater | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
Nottingham suburban communities of Ruddington and Key West. It is not | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
the only part of the East Midlands that has found itself in a | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
constituency carve up. Not everyone is happy about it. It is not a good | :43:22. | :43:32. | |
idea. Rethink. Go back to your map. This is Keyworth, 30 miles away in | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
the south Nottinghamshire heart of one of the government's big beasts. | :43:36. | :43:42. | |
Ken Clarke, soon to be abolished. With parts of Rushcliffe facing | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
merger with Coalville, you can guess what they think of that here. | :43:45. | :43:52. | |
It is a load of garbage. We are poles apart. Where do their brains | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
come from? Do you think it rains -- makes sense? None whatsoever in all | :43:57. | :44:05. | |
honesty. I cannot see the brought in and extending it that far. | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
will not influence the independent Boundary Commission one jot, the | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
fact that Ken Clarke has a high government post. The name of | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
Rushcliffe will be no more if they have their way. I do not think that | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
is as important as the fairness of the democracies -- the democratic | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
system. Even a I have to concede that. The East Midlands will have | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
44 MPs, down two, in a future more streamlined cost effective House of | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
Commons. Most of our constituency boundaries will be redrawn. At the | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
next general election, we met -- remain not have familiar | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
constituency names like these. The East Midlands is the same as every | :44:45. | :44:50. | |
other part of England. It will see some seats not changing and other | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
seats which will undergo a radical change. A radical change comes in | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
the shape of a rabbit. Remember our toy rabbit to | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
illustrate the new Mid Derbyshire seat at the last election? A | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
constituency like the rabbit is heading for the pot and its MP is | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
not a happy bunny. It is quite difficult for some people to | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
understand that they have been moved here and everywhere when | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
their house has stayed exactly where it was. They do not feel part | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
of Mid Derbyshire because people are still confused about who they | :45:19. | :45:25. | |
Member of Parliament is. There will be a prospect of neighbouring Tory | :45:25. | :45:31. | |
MPs chasing the same seats. They have now got to impress Select | :45:31. | :45:37. | |
Committee is again for stump my advice would be taking a positive | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
and sensible role in politics not just going around moaning to | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
everybody about your bad luck in the boundary changes. Vernon | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
Coaker's Gedling is another casualty. It has merged into one of | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
four new Nottingham City seats. There is an interesting set of | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
proposals that we need to look at and reflect upon for stump it is | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
not only a matter for politicians to look at them and see what we | :46:02. | :46:09. | |
think but also for local people to look at it as well. For some, the | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
changes signpost the way to political uncertainties and new | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
opportunities. Labour claimed that it is loaded in favour of the | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
Tories. Trent Bridge has historically been the dividing line | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
between the City of Nottingham and the county. Labour Nottingham, | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
Conservative controlled Rushcliffe. Under the boundary commission's | :46:29. | :46:35. | |
recommendations, West Bridgford and big chunks of leafy Rushcliffe's | :46:35. | :46:39. | |
suburbia would be incorporated into a revamped Nottingham South | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
constituency which currently is Labour controlled. It will fetch up | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
the electoral process, it will bring out a lot of interested | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
parties and it will make people more interested in politics in | :46:51. | :47:01. | |
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But are there any political winners from these plans? Mapping out the | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
repercussions for a city like Derby is far from clear. Derby North, | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
Derby South, that is about to change in a big way for stump they | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
have turned it all around so it is more like that. We have got Derby | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
West, then the East. North and south, west and east. It is about | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
as much as a turnaround as you could get. It was always going to | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
be a game where the Tories would not do too badly out of it, Labour | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
would not do too badly, but because it was cutting up cities, it is the | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
Liberal Democrats which are ultimately lose. There is now a | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
three-month consultation and Parliament might yet get the final | :47:41. | :47:48. | |
World. -- final word. Parliament has to approve or a director at | :47:48. | :47:58. | |
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100%. I do not think -- approve or reject it 100%. | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
From constituency carve up to a political fix, or what will the | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
voters make of that? With me now, two of our politicians | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
who have been wrestling with the Boundary Commission's proposals. | :48:11. | :48:18. | |
Anna Soubry and former Lib Dem MP Paul Holmes. Well and peoples -- | :48:18. | :48:22. | |
will MPs be the turkeys that a vote for Christmas? Both of the | :48:22. | :48:26. | |
coalition parties have in their manifestos this sort of change. | :48:26. | :48:31. | |
They are both committed to it. Some individual MPs will suffer because | :48:31. | :48:34. | |
their constituencies have been restraint but the boundary | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
commissioners not there to make life easy for MPs, it is there to | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
implement Democratic constituencies. Will they go for it and take Ken | :48:45. | :48:50. | |
Clarke's advice? Ken Clarke as ever is right. You can see he has got a | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
very relaxed attitude to it all. The real losers are in many ways | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
borough councils. For a lot of our local authorities, if Rushcliffe as | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
a parliamentary seat is being abolished, if the proposals go | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
through, and there are still two years of proposals... If you look | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
at Rushcliffe, it will no longer have a parliamentary seat that | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
mirrors it. That is quite difficult for some of our local authorities. | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
If you take the new seat of Nottingham West, I believe it is, | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
there are three or four local authorities or represented by one | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
member of Parliament so although it is not a problem for the Member of | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
Parliament, you can get your head around that, it is a problem for | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
the local authorities if they do not feel that they have got the one | :49:36. | :49:43. | |
and Pete champion -- championing that Barrett. I do not -- I do not | :49:43. | :49:51. | |
think that is a problem at all. Derbyshire County Council has 8, 9, | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
10 constituencies representing the council. If the council staff | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
cannot get their head around that, they will... Perhaps I did not | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
explain myself. Derbyshire obviously has MPs for Derbyshire. | :50:05. | :50:10. | |
Rushcliffe now no longer has one MP as a borough who can champion | :50:10. | :50:16. | |
Rushcliffe. If you are... Does that mean people will lose out? I do not | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
think so but from a local government point of view I can | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
understand that some of the boroughs might think, Gedling is | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
another good example, who is Mike MP who will champion meet? Purely | :50:27. | :50:33. | |
that. Rushcliffe represented by one party on the Council and another as | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
an MP, how will they told to one another? Now they will have more... | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
The whole idea is that the Tories feel that everyone else is cutting | :50:42. | :50:46. | |
back and the Commons should to and that should mean fewer MPs there | :50:46. | :50:51. | |
are two issues, one is equalising the boundaries which is fair. | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
Labour Party is whingeing about it being unfair to them but it is | :50:55. | :51:01. | |
democratic and fair and it was a basic cry of the charter 160 years | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
ago that the constituencies should be equal. The number of MPs will be | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
cut down it be it will save about �12 million and democracy is | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
expensive for stump I think it is a mistake although it was a Lib Dem | :51:14. | :51:19. | |
policy before the election. Is this going to mean that MPs will have | :51:19. | :51:22. | |
bigger constituencies, bigger workload and less time to | :51:22. | :51:29. | |
scrutinise legislation? Will it be bad for democracy? This is a win- | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
win. We need fewer MPs. We have got to reduce the cost of politics. | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
This is a good savings. We had to equalise and this is a good idea. | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
You would say that because a lot of Tories are going to win when, as | :51:44. | :51:49. | |
you say, from this? You have already identified that the big | :51:49. | :51:54. | |
beast has got to go out and find a new seat, Ken Clarke. The Tories | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
are about Ken Clarke, what they thought it! An appalling idea. We | :51:59. | :52:05. | |
see the loss in Derbyshire of potentially two MPs. Everybody | :52:05. | :52:09. | |
suffers if you like, that is no bad thing. The good thing is that we | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
are equalising our constituencies and we are reducing the cost of | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
politics was a up you do not see any effect on politics? They will | :52:18. | :52:22. | |
not be so big that the MP will not be able to cope. I do think there's | :52:22. | :52:28. | |
a problem that people will see that we have more MPs than other Western | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
countries but if you compare as to avert European countries, they do | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
not have the centralisation of power that we do in London. They | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
have very strong at the tiers of democratic government. If you | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
compare us to America, in America, if you are elected to Congress, you | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
cannot be in government because the President takes his ministers from | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
universities, trade unions, business, not from Congress. Here | :52:52. | :52:57. | |
we have a limited pool Tippett ministers from and we going to | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
shoot -- we are going to shrink back pool. If there will be some | :53:01. | :53:08. | |
strange anomalies. It has not decided that Broxtowe, you will be | :53:08. | :53:13. | |
sunny across the river? According to some people, I have doubled | :53:13. | :53:20. | |
might majority to one hand -- to 760! A that is why you are smiling. | :53:20. | :53:27. | |
I must say, we would be honoured to represent the area over the river. | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
It is a peculiar twist because it has been plucked out. What matters | :53:31. | :53:40. | |
most of all because -- what matters is how the people of the village | :53:40. | :53:45. | |
failed. I do not think it is too much... I would not find it a | :53:45. | :53:50. | |
problem at all. I thought you might say that. To be truthful, I think | :53:50. | :53:59. | |
Coalville, that is a strange one... Let us get back to the Lib Dems and | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
the party conference. We all know here in the East Midlands that we | :54:02. | :54:07. | |
are the only region without a single Lib Dem MP. Will these | :54:07. | :54:10. | |
boundary changes mean that it is even less likely in the future that | :54:10. | :54:15. | |
we will get one back? Swings and roundabouts. Of our three best | :54:15. | :54:25. | |
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seats, two of them have been left untouched. We are close to... There | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
will be some Lib Dem areas brought in and if it had not been taken out | :54:33. | :54:41. | |
last year, I would still be the MPs. And there is shaking her head. You | :54:41. | :54:48. | |
sound positive. We will have to see how the dust settles. There will be | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
other parts of the East Midlands that have improved that were not | :54:52. | :54:59. | |
winnable. And you were practically wiped out in our region. 43% were | :54:59. | :55:05. | |
lost. There was a national swing from asked to Labour in the north | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
and the Midlands. That is changing. In Gedling, only on Thursday, there | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
was a by-election where our councillor lost -- one by over 100 | :55:15. | :55:22. | |
votes because the national stuff is settling down and people are going | :55:22. | :55:28. | |
back to normal politics. How are people getting on at grassroots? | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
a Member of Parliament for an area where we have a council that is a | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
Labour and Lib Dem coalition, not a great idea in my opinion, even | :55:34. | :55:39. | |
though the Tories are the largest group... Briefly. For I do not have | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
a problem because I will work with whatever party. I find a lot in | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
common with the Lib Dems and I enjoy working with them, as I do | :55:47. | :55:53. | |
with the Tories. I think we are getting on our right? You are in | :55:53. | :55:59. | |
the studio! We will leave it there. Thank you very much. If you have | :55:59. | :56:04. |