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Here in the East Midlands: Will a Supreme Court ruling put more

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people at risk of forced marriages? And the Prime Minister has attacked

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it, but one of our viewers insists we should welcome a EU directive

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that will see more diabetic drivers Hello. Here in the East Midlands

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the Prime Minister has attacked it but a victim insists the EU is

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right to get tougher with diabetic drivers. To say the diabetic driver

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is part of that unnecessary legislation is absolutely crass. It

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is unforgivable. I am sure Mr Cameron will want to look again at

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what he said. David Cameron is also under fire from one of his own

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members of the European Parliament. Roger Helmer tells us why he is a

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quitting -- acquitting. David Cameron is keen to appease Guardian

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readers who will never vote Conservative and he is ignoring his

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base and that is dangerous. Plus we will ask why it a controversial

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Supreme Rubin will make forced marriages more likely here in the

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east Midlands. A new EU directive hits the road in

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a fortnight. It will result in more insulin-dependent drivers losing

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their licences. About time also says one of our viewers as our

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political Editor reports. I am on a country road between

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Newark and herself well in Nottinghamshire and this warning

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sign to motorists is a reminder of a tragedy here almost five years

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ago. Wendy's car went upside down through the hedge. This is a Roger

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Fell. He is recounting the accident which killed his ex-wife when day.

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Seconds before the collision, the driver of the other car had a

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blackout. He is diabetic. Since then Roger has campaigned for new

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restrictions on diabetics been allowed to drive as we reported on

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the time. The inquest was told some diabetics are prone to a

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hypoglycaemic attack and lose consciousness. One result an new EU

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directive - diabetics have been more than one severe hypoglycaemic

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attack in effect it blackout over a 12 month period face a driving ban.

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They are being allowed a licence to drive which is a tremendous right

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of mobility, but they do not have a right to place are the people at

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risk. For Roger Fell, job done. A campaign success. Or so he thought

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until the Conservative Party conference. A couple of weeks ago,

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I was preparing for a day's work, going through paperwork. I came

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across this EU directive. It was about whether people would die BT's

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should be allowed to dry. What on earth has this got to do with a

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single market? Do you think anyone in China is thinking, let's get

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those diabetics of the road! come out and say the diabetic

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driver is part of that are necessary legislation is absolutely

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crass, unforgivable and I am sure Mr Cameron will want to look at

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what he said again. There is a queue outside a mobile health

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clinic in Leicester. Shoppers are being offered a free test for

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diabetes. Had there is next to volunteer. -- had there. There are

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one million adults in the UK with Di BT's who need to take insulin.

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The test results for her there is a good. In the East Midlands, an

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estimated 208,000 adults suffer from diabetes and out of that

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figure getting on for 76,000 need insulin. Some of it is down to diet,

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exercise as well. Lifestyle. More of us are developing diabetes so

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should diabetics be driving? Yes, they should be driving provided

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they can do properly. If they do not manage properly and if people

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frequently go hypoglycaemic, as a doctor I have to say it is

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dangerous. This is a lesson in driving an articulated lorry. Roger

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has been in the haulage industry for 30 years. He now trains the

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next generation of HGV drivers. There are currently medical

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restrictions on who can get behind the wheel. That is why diabetics

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cannot get a HGV licence. They were absolutely not be allowed. It will

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not be issued. But that will change. The EU directive that is curbing

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insulin-dependent diabetics from driving cars is going to ease up

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the regulations for truck drivers. Diabetics will be able to apply for

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a HGV licence. If it is decided that a type one diabetic is

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perfectly safe behind the wheels, then I would have a problem with

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that. But at the moment that is not the case. That is not the case for

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a good reason. Was David Cameron right to highlight an EU directive

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with apparently contradictory N's? Labour MP Keith Baz has a personal

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interest in this issue. He is a diabetic himself. What this

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directive seeks to do is to limit those who have had a certain

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episode as a result of their diabetes. What I worry about is the

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factor that people may not disclose this because they want to hang onto

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their licences and the only time we will find out is when it is too

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late and they have had an accident. But a diabetics Campaign Group

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offers this reassurance. People with diabetes who are treated with

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insolent and the get a licence every three years and therefore

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they are medically assessed again and again. This means that probably

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somebody with diabetes is going to be much more aware of the dangers

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and much more aware of the importance of following all of the

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guidance making sure they are fit to drive than somebody who is not

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treated in the same by. Back to Leicester and the latest volunteer

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to undergo the test for diabetes. Your BMI is a little bit overweight.

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For diabetes is the latest issue caught up in a political row over

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EU power. We may all need some medication.

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We asked Diabetes UK to join us to discuss some of the concerns raised

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but they told us no one was available.

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Earlier this week campaigners Jasvinder Sanghera were celebrating

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the Prime Minister's announcement that the Government plans to make

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it a criminal offence to force a person to marry against their will.

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Forced marriages little more than slavery. To force someone into

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marriage is completely wrong. I believe this is a problem we should

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not shy away off. Because of some codger concerns. Then came a

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Supreme Court decision that overturned the ban on wedding

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Beazer's for anyone under 21. Jasvinder believes it will put more

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people at risk of forced marriage. Is she right? She joins me with

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Mustafa Malik from the Pakistani youth association. Jasvinder, you

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know what it is like to be a victim of coerce marriages, you ran away

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from home to avoid one and your sister took her own life because

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she was so unhappy in a forced relationship. Labour raised the age

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and now the judges are saying that has done more harm than good.

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is an extreme blow. As I survivor of a forced marriage, what we have

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been a marvel of is not what is being considered here but the

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welfare of British-born subject to are forced into marriage. For all

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the thousands of cases we deal with, what this means is that our victims

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will be pressured and coerced into sponsoring that foreign national at

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the age of 17 years old. They do not have the majority of three

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years to wait until they are 21. You are saying it makes the most

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vulnerable people more vulnerable. It is making them more vulnerable

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because what we have to remember is they do not have the choice. For

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those who fall in love and consent is a factor, that his eight choice.

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Our victims do not have a choice. Mustafa, what Jasvinder is saying

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is this ruling is bad news. I do not agree. The ruling is a very

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good one. When we were dealing with the issue of forced marriage,

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everybody did not come into the same category. There are people

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where there are arranged marriages, so this age limit that

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discriminates with those with genuine reasons to get their spouse

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from the sub-continent. Do you know couples who will be affected by

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this ruling? There will be affected. Of course they will be affected. I

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do not see these forced marriages and this ruling together because

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forced marriages are a different issue. As far as this ruling is

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concerned, this is about the age discrimination so when we are

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talking about the citizens of European Union, then you have a

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different law and when we are talking about non-EU countries

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there is a different law. That is where the problem is. We are not

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talking about arranged marriages here. Week I have to say I can give

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you thousands of statistics around victims who are forced to marry

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every year and which is the greater of the two? Those with the consent

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of those who have been forced to marry. One hour helpline we are

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dealing with 500 calls a month of victims calling the lines, British

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suggests, our unit deals with 5,500 cases a year. David Cameron is

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right to use the immigration issue to tackle forced marriages because

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what we know it is the crimes are going up and up, we do not have

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effective measures to deal with it. The court does not agree with the

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exactly, Jasvinder. It says the number of genuine relationships are

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obstructed by raising the bees their age limit exceeds the number

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of forced marriages it deters. Let's be clear. One of the things

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that were served by the Supreme Court was there was not enough

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evidence that gave them the feeding of the scale of the problem and

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sadly, the Government did not make their case. You mentioned the Home

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Office's forced marriage unit and we have some figures. They

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investigated 469 cases of forced marriage in 2010 and 52 % of those

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cases involve people from Pakistan. Is it really worth the risk of

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those cases being increased by this ruling? I think that I need to go

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back. As far as the forced marriage is concerned, forced marriage has

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no place as far as the religion is concerned. Islam forbids forced

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marriage. Forced marriage is a cultural thing and I believe within

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the community in Leicester the day -- the rate of forced marriages is

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going down. This is the third generation of people living in this

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country. It was quite high for the first generation and maybe the

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second but the third... But figures are increasing. In 2000 and day,

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the number of cases investigated by the forced marriage unit was 420

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and now ates 469 last year. because there is more awareness.

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That is why you are getting more numbers. Let's not forget this is a

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hidden crime, it is under-reported, our victims have multiple

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perpetrators. This is a hidden problem. Because there is a lot of

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awareness and people are not getting aware... The more cases are

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coming out. Four you said numbers were going down. The actual number

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is going down but more cases are coming out, so before they were not

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reported, so the number of cases reported was less than what is

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being reported now. If this is against religion, which it is,

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surely we did as the Disney to be supporting measures. We are not

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talking about arranged marriages and surely endure religion, we have

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a duty to protect the final ball. only believe that the decision

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taken by the court on forced marriages, everybody within the

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Community, the majority, are against it. The young children are

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against it. Last month there was a conference in London which was

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attended by 10,000 people where it was explicitly explained that

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forced marriages... The religious people, yes they need to come out.

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We need to discuss this issue more. Thank you.

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Say what you like but Roger Helmer is one of the most colourful

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politicians in the East Midlands. He has never been afraid to express

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his views but he dismayed his supporters this week with his

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announcement that he is to quit his membership of the European

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Parliament. We spoke to him in Brussels and asked why now? I am

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older now than I have ever been before but a number of the issues I

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am concerned about are blowing up. In Europe we had the carious in the

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euro-zone, a superb opportunity for the Government to get a grip and

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reconfigure our relationship with Europe but it is clear this

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government just is not prepared to do that. Climate and energy, I

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think the public out there are starting to get the electricity

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bills with enormous increases and that is a direct result of our

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obsession with wind power. The issues I have been worried about

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particularly are coming to a head. You fought for a UK referendum on

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Europe, there is clearly no appetite for one in Downing Street.

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Is it a lost cause? I am not sure it is a lost cause. It depends how

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much public pressure there is. It is certainly true that he -- David

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Cameron does not want a referendum on the ewe because he thinks

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membership is in Britain's interests. Membership is not in

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Britain's interests. You have a referendum to find out what the

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public think. It is not as if you have just fallen out with the Tory

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leadership now. Can fight describe you as semi-detached from the

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Conservative Party. Critics say you have not been a team player.

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think you should talk to my staff, they will take a different view.

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What I will say is that I am on the Conservative wing of the

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Conservative Party and many party members are equally on the

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Conservative wing of the Conservative Party, and we are very

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concerned that the leadership are out on a limb. The leadership is

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not paying attention to the backbenches, members and activists.

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David Cameron is keen to appease Guardian readers who will never

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vote Conservative and she is ignoring his base and that is

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dangerous. It is certainly the case that membership of the Conservative

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Party is in steep decline and if the party leadership cannot despond

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-- respond to the needs and ambitions of the run ship then we

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will have problems. He said the current euro-zone crisis presents

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us with a opportunity to reconfigure our relationship with

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Europe. How exactly? What would you like to see happen? I would like to

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see Britain negotiate a new relationship based solely on free

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trade and governmental corporation. But what we need surely is Britain

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to take any doubt in Europe to save the European economy. We have heard

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slogans we are winning the battle in Europe, we have been saying that

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for 40 years and it just gets worse. We get the pay in, we see more and

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more powers transferred from Britain to Europe. The idea that we

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can reform it from within has been tested to destruction. It does not

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work. Europe is the UN reform it deserves to be put out on his Myrie.

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He had been quoted as saying we need a growth strategy. Do you mean

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in Europe or the UK? It will apply equally in both cases but what I

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meant was the UK. I greatly respect George Osborne's deficit policy --

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redundancy policy but alongside that, we need a clear growth

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strategy which will involve some tax incentives which I believe

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could be self financing but also a massive deregulation. Britain's

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businesses are being held back by all this European employment --

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implement legislation. The things we are doing as policy of

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preventing a recovery from the recession. What do you think your

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greatest achievements have been? think it is a case of having taken

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the two issues that I am really committed to - Europe and climate

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and energy - and shifting opinion. It is difficult to measure how much

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I have contributed but as a member of the European Parliament, I had

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been in a strong position to influence both of those debates.

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Clearly a Europe debate has moved a bit in my direction. The climate

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debate has moved overwhelmingly. Today the majority of the British

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people are no longer convinced by the Al Gore Theory of climate

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change and especially as they get these electronic -- electricity

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bills and then farms put up virtually in their back gardens,

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they are starting to say, what is going on here? Thank you very much.

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