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In the West: It will be the biggest picket line in decades. We hear

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from workers who say going on strike next week is their only

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option. And the local hunt campaigners who say they've given

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up hope of winning a free vote in parliament. All that coming up

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2032 seconds

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School's out for one day as teachers take industrial action but

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how will be parents cope? People in the West fight back against public-

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sector cuts. And the smell defeat. The campaigners who say they have

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given up hope of getting the controversial hunting Act repealed

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this Parliament. It's expected to be the biggest strike in decades.

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It's reckoned this Wednesday more than two million public sector

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workers will take action over proposed changes to their pensions.

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Politically it's uncomfortable for the coalition and for Labour. But

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that hasn't dented the determination of members of two

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dozen unions, some of whom have never before been on strike.

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Primary school football in the Forest of Dean. On Wednesday they

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will be having a day off, so will their head teacher. It is a day of

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industrial action, probably. wants his teachers -- pagans to

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know why he is taking this step. His union have never been on strike

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before. It is a last resort action. We do not want to take any action.

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We want schools to be open. We understand it will be an

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inconvenience to parents but we are doing it for the sake of the

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profession. This is another person who has never been on strike but

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the proposed changes would hit her hard. When we signed up to the

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pension scheme we were told our benefits at the end of it would be

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based on a were final salary. We have a grievance over that. It is

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like a contract signing up to a pension scheme. This is what you

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are going to get. You pay more, you work longer and then they are not

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going to give you as much. We seem to have plenty of Spears to get

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that circulated. The best will be their biggest ever Pickett. It

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follows on from the summer strike involving four unions. They do not

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want to alienate the public. A after the strike in June it showed

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that the more the public were aware of the issues the more they sided

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with the workers. While nobody wants their lives disrupted,

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schools being closed, there is a sense of injustice that people now

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Shia. Once again they will try to make the protests family friendly.

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Members of this union feel that the public sector has really taken a

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battering. We should not need to go out to demonstrate to the

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Government that we will not accept these pension reforms. It is not

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fear. We have had a two you pay freeze, we are about to enter the

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third year, we have had no cost-of- living increase so it is difficult.

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The pensions issue is just so complex but some finance experts

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have little sympathy. I do not know what they are on strike for. They

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get a better pension than anybody else. Even the proposed changes

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still give them a fantastic deal. They do not have to worry about

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stock markets. They just have to do their time and they get a very good

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pension at the end of it. What these people find harder to

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understand his Labour's opposition but that does not stop their

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determination. With us today is the Conservative MP for North Wiltshire,

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James Gray and the former Labour MP for South Swindon, Anne Snelgrove.

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We saw their very angry people who have never been on strike before,

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have we misjudged this? We also saw experts to seeing you do not know

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what they are angry about. -- saying public-sector pensions are

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among the most generous in the world will drop the offer on the

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table is extremely generous and beer. A do not know why these

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people are disrupting other people's lives. They are angry

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because a deal was struck and that has now been thrown out. We have

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made a very generous offer and are waiting to hear back. They are

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seeing that has now changed? know. The people who have joined in

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the last 10 years are getting exactly what they signed up for. We

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are all living a great deal longer. There was an extremely difficult

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deal with the trade unions on pensions what was hard to do. That

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has been thrown out by this Government which has picked 3% on

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the pensions to pay for the deficit. It seems pretty rudderless as far

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as Labour is concerned, saying do not go on strike. Striking as a

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last resort. It is a failure of this Government. Nobody is in

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favour of strikes. The only person who seems to be in favour of the

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strike is David Cameron who said he was very happy about it in the

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Telegraph the other day. That is extremely sad that the Prime

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Minister is playing politics with people's pensions. If that is

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untrue! It is a Labour initiative in the first place? Frankly what we

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would like to see is the removal of that 3% surcharge on people's

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pensions. It is not fear to change pensions, particularly women's

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pensions, to make women were longer and pay more when they had no

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notice of this. Will you be any the wiser when you see very angry

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people taking to the streets on Wednesday? I think it is

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disgraceful that these people are taking into their own hands such

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destruction. For what purpose? In order to get more a pension than

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the private sector? I think it is a great shame that the Government is

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causing this kind of action. If we can avoid strikes on Wednesday that

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would be brilliant. Thank you. David Cameron has been warned he

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risks losing thousands of female voters in the West Country because

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of the coalition's economic policies. According to the Bristol

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Fawcett Society, who campaigned for gender equality, 70% of the public

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sector cuts are hitting women. And figures published by the Office of

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National Statistics this week show the gender pay gap in some areas is

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growing, bucking the national trend. Our reporter has more. Music With

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Mummy. And the little ones love it. But the clue is in the name, only

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one daddy has made the group. It's often the mum's left to juggle work

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and childcare. Even at this young age there are noticeable

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differences between boys and girls. And, according to the campaigners

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in the West, the pay gap between the sexes is already bigger than

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most other areas. It has been well- documented over many years. It is a

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sad fact that it has never gone away. It leaves women, particularly

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mothers, very vulnerable if they are not supported by their partners.

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Since the coalition government was formed, they've taken the biggest

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public sector spending squeeze since the second world war.

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According to some 20 charities who have worked on the Bristol Fawcett

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Society report, 70% of these cuts will affect women here in the West.

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Women are losing their jobs more in the public sector. 63 % of council

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workers in Bristol are women and they have just announced 350 jobs

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are to go. If I want to go voluntary I cannot pay for my child

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care. Women are being paid less for doing the same things. Why, when

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women can do exactly the same as men. And I am struggling to keep my

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house warm, I have two children, won his only aged two. I have very

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little in the way of Christmas presents this year. David Cameron

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promised to make Parliament less combated if. -- combative. But for

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our Bristol Labour MPs it is too little, too late. If you go and

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speak to women in my constituency they will tell you that life is

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harder and they are being hit from all sides. They are the people who

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did not cause this crisis but are being made to pay for it. Here in

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the West just two of our Conservative MPs are women. Say

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that Childs says Cameron needs to get more women elected to show that

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he cares. I think that is very important to have more female MPs.

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Structurally Government has to change. With over three years left

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until the next election he has time to persuade these mums it is safe

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to vote for him. Still with us are the Conservative MP for North

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Wiltshire, James Gray and the former Labour MP for South Swindon,

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Anne Snelgrove. I do not know why they are seeing women are hit

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harder. It is nice to see that 63 % of women working in local

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Government -- 63 % of people working in local Government are

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women. A not very long ago it was the other way around. Half of the

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people I represent our women and I think I'd do a good job of

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representing them. I am sure you do a terribly good job but I have to

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cut in. Let me come to you in a second, it seems that you do not

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understand the problems when they are presented in front of you. The

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problem is that women are losing jobs, more work in the public

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sector than men so therefore when there are job losses more of them

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are out. They also have benefits problems and the do not have the

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public services. I am not sure that any of those assertions are correct.

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James, you need to get out more! at least I won an election! It is

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about child care, child care services are being cut back, Sure

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Start, they see their children's life chances being affected by the

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removal of the Education Maintenance Allowance. The you

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would make cuts to and one of the big issues are that we have not

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heard what these cuts would be? These cuts are bigger and passive.

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It is a real revenge on the public sector which women rely on, not

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just because the work in the public sector but they are the front line

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with their family. It is women who see the inflation going up and

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prices of gas and electricity going up. Another thing you might

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understand is the disparity between p 10 men and women. For example, in

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Filton and Bradley Stoke, the average gross wage for a man in

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2010/11 was �31,045 compared to just �15,300 for a woman. It is

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against the law to have differences in pay. It is about the type of

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jobs they can take. There is is about women in the public sector. I

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see it on the doorstep. I work with women. I do voluntary work with

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women who are long-term unemployed. I cannot tell you how difficult

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they are finding it. Is there a danger this could be a woman's

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issue and everybody is suffering from it, men and families also.

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it is women who are feeling the pinch now it is families who are

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feeling the pinch tomorrow. We are all the same, male, female, a white,

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black. You are not in it together if you are a multi-millionaire in

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the Cabinet. Thank you both very much indeed. As the new deer-

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hunting season got under way this month hunters have admitted to the

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BBC that they see no immediate chance of the controversial Hunting

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Act being repealed. It was brought in six years ago and the

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Conservatives have always promised to get rid of it. But we have

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learned that both the hunters and pro-hunt politicians are keen to

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push the debate into the long grass for fear of losing a vote.

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Meanwhile there's fresh criticism from animal rights organisations

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that the police aren't doing enough to enforce the law as it stands.

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They banned hunting with hounds in 2005. This is the Devon and

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Somerset Staghounds and 2011. To an outsider it may seem that in six

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years nothing has changed. These hunters will tell you the are

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working perfectly within the exemptions of the new law, for

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instance, working with two hounds rather than a pack. But those who

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spend their working lives travelling around monitoring hunts

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say that since 2005 there have been many breaches of the Hunting Act

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across the region. They keep producing video footage to prove

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their point. These pictures of the Quantock Staghounds in 2006 bid

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lead to a prosecution. But that is rare. Officially every police force

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will tell you they enforce every law. Privately senior officers will

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say they have better things to do. And figures we've obtained would

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seem to support that stance. Avon and Somerset Police have brought

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just three prosecutions under the Hunting Act, Wiltshire two and

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Gloucestershire none. We have our suspicions and the national

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wildlife crime unit for instance have pointed out there have been

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many, many complaints about the legal hunting in this area yet we

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do not see very much police activity. You would like to see

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more. Politically the hunts have certainly gone cold on pushing for

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a repeal of the Hunting Act. Something the Conservatives have

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always promised, and which the Prime Minister reiterated in a

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recent interview with us. Well the boss may be confident but his

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backbenchers aren't so sure a vote is now a good thing. My own view

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has always been that the hunting ban does not work. It is a matter

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for the House of Commons to decide whether to bring this forward.

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backbenchers believe you have not brought it for a because you

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believe you will lose? If you have got a law which is an ass you have

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bought it or do something with the law. We have not got parliamentary

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time to do that at the moment. The economy, social care, the NHS and

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everything else is higher up the agenda than hunting. Privately

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there's also a feeling amongst hunters that right now it's a fight

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they will not win. They have learned much. There is a feeling

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that the hunters have learned much from the recent failure of the

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Liberal Democrats to achieve their Holy Grail, getting AV. When it was

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put to a vote, they lost. The hunt know they'll probably only get one

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chance of a repeal of the Hunting Act. They know too that if they

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push that now, they'll probably lose. We have not got a Tory

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Government in, it is a coalition Cameron so I think the vote is

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likely to be wrong for us. Do you think one day you will get a boat

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macro and one day it will be repealed or do you believe it is a

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lost cause now? If I did not believe we would get an appeal I

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probably would not be standing here today. One thing seems certain, it

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won't be happening anytime soon. James Gray, you are a hunting man,

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will you let it go without a fight? At the fact of the matter is that

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the law is so bad that hunting today is better than it has ever

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been before. It is a really thriving sport within the law. We

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