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And here in the North - a minister tells us racial sensitivities

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shouldn't prevent investigation of child sex grooming and abuse.

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These Yorkshire mothers of teenage victims agree - they travelled to

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2516 seconds

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Westminster to lobby MPs - we've a Welcome to the Politics Show in the

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North. Today we feature one of the most disturbing subjects we've ever

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tackled on this programme. Claims that girls as young as 12 have been

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taken off the streets of Yorkshire to be groomed and sexually

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exploited by older men - and the If I said no or had an argument at

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all put up a fight, they would be a punishment. And the punishment was

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always worse than what they had planned in the first place.

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We speak to the parents of victims who travelled to Westminster to

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demand tougher action from the Government. And a leading minister

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tells us why he believes many cases have been hampered by racial

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sensitivities. I think political correctness and racial

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sensitivities have in the past been an issue.

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It is every parent's worst nightmare. To find out your child

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has been groomed by a gang of older men and forced into a life of

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prostitution and depravity. That's what happened to Emma, who was just

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13 when she was drawn into that sordid world, whilst still

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appearing to enjoy a happy family life. Emma has been speaking to the

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Politics Show and tells us why she believes many offenders are

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escaping justice because the police and other authorities aren't taking

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It all started when I was 12 and had started going to a shopping

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centre with my friends on the weekend. We started going in

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hanging around in the arcade, going on the dance machines. We were

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approached by some boys who were a couple of years older than us. They

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started to give as alcohol and cannabis. I thought it was quite

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fun, I was 13 by this time. I knew it was wrong but how was a normal

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13-year-old who was flattered by a nice-looking lad who I thought was

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a team with a nice car. Using a pseudonym, and the Jackson has

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written a book about her ordeal as a teenager in South Yorkshire. She

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talks about meeting a man who eventually led her into a world of

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prostitution and abuse. They started ask me to have sex with

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people perform sexual acts on people. I would get strangers

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coming to pick me up and phoning me. He also started to rate me once a

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week every week. It was his way of keeping me in line. If I said no or

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had an argument or put up a fight, there would be a punishment, and

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the punishment was always worse than what they had planned and the

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first place, so it was easier to shut up and put up and get on with

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it. Cull's father says he was completely unaware. -- Emma's

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father. You think, how can this happen to us as a family when

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you're just a normal, everyday family? You go to work, you pay

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your taxes. Obviously, Emma was my baby. I felt like I had not been

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there to protect and you stop blaming yourself. Former MP and his

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familiar with her case. She highlighted what many believe to be

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a taboo subject. David has certainly made it more possible for

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men such as these to be prosecuted successfully through the courts.

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People who've been to me initially about these problems, I arranged

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for them to meet David Blunkett in a meeting in Leeds. They did, and

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they were impressed with his responses. The policies were such

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that he promised to get the alterations which I have mentioned

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through Parliament. He did what he promised. Earlier this year, the

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former Labour Home Secretary Jack Straw was like -- widely criticised

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after claiming that some men are Pakistani origin saw white gulls as

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easy meat. The Labour peer Lord Ahmed was one of the first

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politicians to openly talk about gangs of Asian men targeting young

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girls. He believes the issue should not be swept under the carpet.

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know I have had a lot of criticism from their own community because I

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have started talking about it. We need to put it into context. 98 %

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of the community that is engaged in fantastic work within the UK,

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whether it is economic, political or social. But there is a small

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minority involved with criminal activities. This he must crime of

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messing with young girls is outrageous -- is outrageous crime.

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The men who targeted Emma whenever brought to justice despite his

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signed confession from one of their alleged abuses. The police also

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revealed a number of items of clothing which could have provided

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crucial DNA evidence were lost. Cull now works with other girls who

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had been robbed of their innocence. They say, something happened last

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night, I took something and I'm not sure how I feel about the situation.

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13 year-olds are not going to come forward and say that and that is

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why it they prey on them. Later we'll hear from the

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Children's Minister, who admits that in the past, political

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correctness and racial sensitivities have been an issue.

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Before then, we follow a group of parents on a journey to Westminster.

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A journey they hope will lead to a greater awareness of what needs to

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be done to tackle the problem of child sexual exploitation. Sean

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Stowell reports. Early morning in Leeds, and a

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delegation gathers to board a coach for Westminster. Most of these

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women, we cannot identify. Their daughters were groomed and then

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experienced sexual abuse and violence no parents would ever want

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to imagine. Their lives and those of their daughters and families

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have been devastated. Our daughter was targeted at the age of 12. As a

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family, we suffered three years of health and to we managed to extract

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her from these very powerful perpetrators. The women want

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politicians to listen and understand how a child sexual

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exploitation begins and take hold. The grooming process is that they

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get them with fancy cars. They may They arrive at Westminster with

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nerves jangling. Most have never spoken a team meeting before. The

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organisers of the lobby are pushing for more local authorities to

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develop strategies to deal with child sexual exploitation. Only a

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quarter currently have one. They also want MPs to oppose government

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cuts which have hit children's charities hard. And they want to

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increase parental involvement. Research shows support for parents

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helps keeps -- helps keep families together. The the meeting takes

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place behind closed doors. Numbers of politicians are down because of

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an important government statement. Because there weren't many people

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there because other issues are being debated at the moment, that

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was a bit disappointing, but the politicians who were there

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responded quite positively and were quite shocked at the stories that

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were coming out from parents like myself. We were threatened with

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being attacked, our house was vandalised. She was terrified

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because she was afraid something would happen to others. It is

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something people don't want to understand. It is to terrific --

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too horrific to acknowledge this happens in our country.

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parents' stories were incredibly powerful. We got the point across

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we wanted to, which is in many ways about implementation, awareness

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raising and contacting children sports. A relatively small

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investment in an organisation like this will yield a massive savings

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in the reduction in future exploitation. I think you have to

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raise the profile of an issue that a lot of people don't want to talk

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about because it brings shame to them and their families. It is a

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great credit to the parents there today. Measuring success is easy

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for this charity - it is the number of people rescued from a life of

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drugs and sexual exploitation. Over the past five months, the

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national agency responsible for child protection, CEOP, has been

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looking into the problem of child grooming. Its report is due to be

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published in the next few days and is expected to reveal that the

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scale of the problem has been hugely underestimated in recent

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times. Len Tingle has been finding out what's being done to prevent

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more young people falling into this terrible trap.

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That report is certainly exercising minds here at Westminster as

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politicians work out exactly where to go from here. Diana Johnson was

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a minister in the schools, children and Family Department under the

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Labour administration. She is currently the shadow police

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minister. I think there probably is under reporting of this and one

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thing that occurs to me is the importance schools and teachers

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being able to talk to your people about what is happening and use

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that information and be confident that actually things should not be

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happening around grooming of children. I think schools and

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education are important parts of this. Unfortunately, the government

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is taking a limited view of what education and schools can do. I

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think most people would say it is an important arena for children to

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disclose important information. It needs to be a dress -- addressed by

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properly addressing the problem. got me taking drugs. Britain's

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biggest children since charity launched this chilling advert aimed

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to persuade the government that a co-ordinated approach was needed to

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stop the grinning and sexual exploitation of children. The

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charity is working with families and victims across the country.

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welcome as many voices talking about this as a hidden issue,

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because that is what it is. Only 89 convictions at of 2756 victims in

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2009 - it is not a surprise that many people don't recognise this as

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a child protection issues. Diana Johnson has other concerns,

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particularly plans to merge CEOP with a wider Agency. It is an

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expert body on looking at this issue and I think it should stand

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alone and get the resources it needs to carry on. I don't agree it

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should go into the National crime agency. I would certainly make sure

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the resources are there for this particular dreadful crime to be

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actually prosecuted and to be investigated properly by police.

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Organisations like Barnardo's say a better future can only be obtained

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by taking the politics out of the issue and stopping the damaged to

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vulnerable victims. It is not the only voice making that plea. I have

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reclaimed the agenda from the BNP and the Far Right. They have taken

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so much advantage on this particular issue, which has damaged

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our relations in this country between communities. I have been

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able to take that away. Now, the issue is not about race, it is

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about these evil men and about protecting young girls. I'm getting

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on better with my mum now. She picks me up after counselling. I

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have made some new friends. what are the families and friends

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of young, vulnerable people do if they feel in danger? He did they

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turn to? Our website this week lists agencies baking go to for

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support and advice. The government says his conversations with

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agencies and interested parties is well under way. It expects to have

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a policy later this year. The Government agreed to take a

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closer look at this problem following a recent case in Derby,

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where a number of young girls were targeted by a paedophile gang. The

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investigation was codenamed Operation Retriever. I've been

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speaking to the Children's Minister Tim Loughton. I asked him whether

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he shared the frustration of many parents in Yorkshire that so few

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cases have resulted in prosecution. I entirely understand the

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frustration those families who have been unfortunate enough to have

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family members involved in this horrible process have felt. It

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recently, we have seen a lot of police resources targeted on

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busting some of these gangs who are involved in this process. This is

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up and down the country, not just in big cities. I think it is

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happening in rural areas up and down the length of the UK. What we

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needed do is firstly raise the profile of it, because we all have

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a duty here, we all need to watch out for any signs of this.

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Operation Retriever was intelligence brought forward by

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some local voluntary groups to enable the police to get at the

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bottom of what was going on. So I want to make sure we have a co-

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ordinated action plan that I as a minister will be working on it over

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the summer and autumn. Many cases in the North of England have

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involved Asian men. Do you believe there has been a reluctance in some

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quarters to discuss this because of perceived race will -- perceived

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racial sensitivities? If there is, it has to stop. I don't care where

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these people are, what they ate my origins are, I want this to be

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stopped. -- what they ate racial origins are. Racial background is

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not the biggest consideration. The priority is to make sure children

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are safe wherever they are. They must be saved from whatever group

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are exploiting them. In many cases, we are dealing with closed

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communities, closed in terms of things being able to go on under

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the radar and away from the public eye. And closed as well in terms of

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a reluctance of certain victims and their families to want to come

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forward and report in case it gets them into trouble with other

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members of their community. We have to work to make sure that everybody

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is aware that this is a problem and that everybody is encouraged to

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come forward and report abuse where they see it, because it does not

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affect just that one family, because those abuses, because of

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the nature of this organised network of abuse, will affect many

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other dozens of children in the locality as well. So everybody has

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a duty of care to come forward with whatever information will enable

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the police, the government and other agencies to get to the bottom

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of the criminals. They are committing ghastly crimes against

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honourable, young children. Do you believe in the past some

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investigations have been hampered by political correctness? I think

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political correctness and racial sensitivities have in the past been

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an issue and I want to send out a message loud and Clear - this is

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what I have been doing since the round table where this was brought

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together. Although we need to be aware of certain characteristics of

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various ethnic communities, and sensitive and sensible as to how we

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deal with them, it is not an excuse for us not investigating rigorously

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any abuse that may be going on. There is no hiding place for

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criminals who sexually abused and exploited children and young people,

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wherever they come from. I won a message to go out loud and clear. -

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- I want that message. We will seek you out and bring you to justice,

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no matter what community you come from. And I want everybody to help

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in that process. We all have a duty of care. The Children's Minister

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