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time. I will be back with more in about 30

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minutes. Now, time for a look back at the week in Parliament.

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Welcome to the programme. Gales, floods, rainstorms. Never has the

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phrase the political weather had such a literal meaning. When it

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comes to this relief effort, money is no object. We will spend what is

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necessary to help. Response has to be faster than in the past and

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everyone has to feel they are getting the help they need. It may

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have been cold and wet outside but inside Westminster, things were

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getting hot, especially in the battle over Scottish independence.

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We know what we are doing. We are keeping the sterling. (LAUGHS). But

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what will happen to people in England without the sterling? There

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were a few sandbags of legislation. MPs were allowed a free vote on the

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matter of children's health. Hasn't the House of Commons got a

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responsibility to do everything possible to protect children from

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smoking? Will we have smoking police weaving in and out of traffic and

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looking in car windows. If there is not a serious answer to this, how

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can it be enforced? This week, the serious questions of the economy had

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to take a second place to the weather forecast. There were

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alarming scenes of a seriously flooded nation. The Somerset levels

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had its fifth week under water. The most powerful image of the

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south-west was of the rail line left dangling in Dawlish in Devon. When

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the flood levels poured across large swathes of the Home Counties, as the

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Thames spilled into the residential avenues, the political stakes were

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rising with the water levels. Homes were evacuated as streets and roads

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became lakes. The map of red flood alerts looked ominous and sure

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enough, it got worse. The communities secretary was briefing

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MPs as the events unfolded. Pumping continues but the challenge to keep

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up with the correct place of the inflow from the latest rainfall

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levels are increasing in some areas. It's likely to take weeks to remove

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the sheer volume of flood water once there is a significant break in the

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weather. Can he explain why the Prime Minister has been unable to

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deny that the Environment Secretary has been forced to write a letter

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objecting to the communities secretary 's on one of DEFRA's

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agencies? Does he accept in hindsight it was wrong to launch

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such a direct attack and will he take this opportunity to apologise?

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I don't know if she is obsessed by process. We are much more concerned

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with making the effort to deal with problems involved with flooding.

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With regard to the Environment Agency, it is entirely wrong for the

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honourable lady to suggest for one moment that I have issued even the

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slightest criticism of the marvellous workforce of the

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Environment Agency. My admiration for the work of the Environment

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Agency exceeds that of no one and I believe it's time for us all to work

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together. And not to make silly party political points. I do believe

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that we need a period of calm in the House because those who have been

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flooded and those who are on the verge of being flooded look to us to

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show some leadership. I cannot remember a more complacent or

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inadequate response from a Cabinet minister to a serious matter in this

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House. Last year after last winter's floods and the travel

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disruption in the south-west, the government announced ?31 million of

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new money for improved rail resilience in the south-west. That

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money has still not materialised. Why should anybody believe any of

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the new promises he is making now when he has failed to deliver any of

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them in the past? I'm sorry that the honourable gentleman seems so

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resolved to petty insults across the chamber. Of course, there are people

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right now risking their lives, working on the railways to get those

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railways running. Tuesday night and David Cameron promised money would

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be no object in the ever-growing flood relief effort. On Wednesday, a

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flood hit Prime Minister 's questions. Only confirm for everyone

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in my constituency that doing everything he can will include not

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only reversing cuts to the Environment Agency budget and giving

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proper funding for flood prevention but also crucially, crucially...

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Crucially removing... He said thousands of military were now in

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permission to help out. It's clear that we are seeing more extreme

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weather events and we will suspect -- we will go on seeing more extreme

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weather events and we must do everything we can to improve the

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resilience of our country. When it comes to this relief effort, money

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is no object. We will spend what is necessary to help family, people,

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communities get through this difficult time. David Cameron had

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some more things to announce. I am a gay huge number have already been

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deployed and, yes, as we seek -- a huge number have already been

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deployed and, yes, those numbers are being deployed to make sure those

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people are helped. One of the reassurances he provided yesterday

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was to say that money was no object. This morning, the transport

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secretary said it was not a blank cheque. Can he say exactly what

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areas of spending yesterday's promise covers? Money is no object

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in this relief effort. I want communities who are suffering and

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people who see water at their doors to know that when it comes to the

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military, when it comes to sandbags, when it comes to emergency

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services, when it comes to restoring broken flood defences, money is no

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object. The government has to speak with one voice on this issue. The

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response has to be faster than it has been in the past and everyone

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has to feel that they are getting the help they need. If the

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government does this, they will get our complete support. What I have

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said last night is what I have said today. Money will be no object. I

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don't want people to worry about pennypinching as they see the vital

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work that is required to help them with their houses and to help them

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deal with the floods. That is what this government is doing. We are

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deploying the military where we have been asked to. We have been

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deploying extra pumps where we have been asked to. We are raising

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compensation for local communities. I'm only sorry that he seeks to

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define the House when we should be coming together. Will the Prime

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Minister after this episode has been dealt with, ensure that we do not

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build on floodplains so that people are not inconvenienced in this way?

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I will look carefully at that. The figures suggest that in terms of

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applications for properties being built on floodplains, the official

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advice, and that includes the advice from the Environment Agency, is

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followed in 99% of occasions. It's worth remembering that areas like

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London are part of a floodplain, so I don't think it's possible to say

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that no house can ever be built on a floodplain. What we need to do is

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look at the rules and listen to the experts and make sure we can only

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build where we can protect. Thursday saw exchanges about climate change.

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Does my honourable friend agree that although concern is sometimes

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expressed about the cost of climate change at a geisha, recent events

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are a stark warning that the cost of adaptation is also very

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substantial? -- climate change mitigation. Isn't it actually the

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case that movement in the jet stream are more closely and demonstrably

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linked to our present adverse weather event than any link to

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potentially climate change? As the minister has just accepted, climate

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change will lead to these extreme weather events becoming more

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frequent, can he explain why his department has been forced to admit

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thanks to a Freedom of Information request that total spending on

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climate change mitigation and adaptation was cut by more than 40%

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since last year? Under the first four years of this government, we

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have spent ?2.4 million on flood defences, which is more than was

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spent in the last government. This government continues to make this a

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priority. The focus is on response today and we will then move into

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recovery. But in the long-term, we have secured ?2.3 billion alone into

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the next period. On Monday, MPs voted heavily in favour of a ban in

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smoking in cars when children are passengers. The vote by a margin of

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269 came during debate on the children and families Bill and

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followed a similar vote in the House of Lords. The vote does not compel

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the government to bring in a smoking ban, which would apply in England

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only. The benefit to health was repeatedly spelt out but opponents

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argued that a ban could not practically be resourced --

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enforced. Everyone is clear that children should not be exposed to

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the harm of second-hand smoke. We know that young people have little

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choice about being in place where they are exposed to smoke in many

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cases. She gave her view of any ban. How does she envisage it might be

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enforced? Will we have smoking police weaving in and out of the

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traffic and looking in car windows? There must be a serious answer to

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this. How will it be enforced? Enforcement has been a subject of

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much of the debate in both houses over a number of years and the

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detail of that is some of that would be looked at in regulation if the

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House is minded to give the government a steer on the principle

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of it, but it is not for today's debate. At least, it is not for

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me... At least it is not for me to comment on the detail of it but I'm

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sure it will be explored in the debate that follows. If we know

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beyond any doubt that passive smoking in an enclosed space can do

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serious harm to a person's health and that hundreds of thousands of

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children are being subjected to this in a car every single week, and if

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we know from experience of similar laws passed in this country and

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other countries that legislation can have a major impact in changing

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behaviour and improving public health, should we act and do some

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wing or do we stand by and do nothing? -- act and do some. We we

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cannot afford not to act. By that same token, should we criminalise

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pregnant women who smoke on the basis that their child is in an even

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more confined space than in a car? We are talking about very specific

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measure today and he wishes to bring further measures. The point we are

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discussing today is about children who don't have a choice when they

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travel in a car. I have no quibble with the honourable lady. She

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represents new Labour who think they should ban everyone else from doing

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the things they don't like themselves. What perturbed me, the

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Conservative ministers appear to have not crossed the concept that

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you can disapprove of something without actually banning it. This is

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yet another in a long line of triumphs for the nanny state. If the

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honourable member had been present at the time, he would argue very

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strongly against compulsory seatbelts in cars. Of course he

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would have done because when I was listening to him today, I hurt the

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authentic voice of primitive Tories. I don't work on the assumption,

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necessarily on the assumption, but whatever the honourable member

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opposes I should support. A short time later, MPs voted in favour of

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the ban. 376 votes to 107. Bluff and bullying, the words of the Scotland

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first Minister to describe the Chancellor 's declaration that if

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the Scots say goodbye to the UK, they also say goodbye to the pound.

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The first Minister said that the Chancellor 's view, supported by

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Labour and the Lib Dems, would backfire spectacularly. MPs debated

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the currency issue on Wednesday. If an agreement was not possible, what

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would the plan B? I'm happy to take an intervention now. If you want to

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tell the people of Scotland is now what the Scottish nationals second

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plan is? What put his policy mean for the people of England? -- what

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would his policy means that the people of England, and the price of

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holidays fought English people going abroad? Can I apologise to everyone

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in this debate because I actually allowed the honourable member to

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tell us what the plan B was anti- trunk and on about something to do

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with apologies. -- holidays. You will get the same respect under my

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chairmanship. Thank you. I will give them one more opportunity to tell us

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what the plan B would be. Should people vote yes for independent

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Scotland? The question is that we know full well what we are doing. We

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are keeping sterling. What would happen to the people of England

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without sterling? Imports would be more expensive and holidays would be

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more expensive. It is irresponsible to the people of England, as it is

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to the people of Wales. In the event of separation, the SNP propose that

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currency of a foreign state. There will be no political and fiscal

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union. Scotland then becomes, and this is really important for the men

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and women in the streets of Scotland, a higher risk as a

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result. Interest rates will increase which means we will have to spend

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more money on mortgages and on loans and credit cards. The nationalist

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will accept that because they will pay any price. Where would

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independence keeping sterling leave us? A central bank is not control

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the economy. It works to a single 2% inflation target which we think are

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sensible. I don't have enough time. It would effectively leave us in

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Scotland and the same place in the rest of the UK, accepting the

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monetary policy discipline of an independent MDC while leaving

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Scotland along with the rest of the UK in complete control of the rest

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of its social and economic leaders. He rejected comparisons with the

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eurozone currency union. The old chestnut about being like Greece was

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also raced again. The problem at that Greece had was nothing to do

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with being in a currency union. It had everything to do with having

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appalling productivity. Scottish productivity is now identical to the

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rest of the UK. Honourable members will be aware that just last week

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the governor of the Bank of England set out his views on currency unions

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in what I thought was a very measured, and has he described

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himself, technocratic terms. Honourable members may also have

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read that the Chancellor plans to give a speech on this very matter

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later on this week. I will give way. The Prime Minister and Chancellor

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have played with Scotland. We have the Prime Minister in London and the

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chance threatening us with currency. -- the Chancellor. Which one does he

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support? I think that goes to show that the SNP is not interested in

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any serious debate on one of the most important issues facing the

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Scottish people and the British people. I think it speaks for

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itself. The debate over Scotland's future still has seven months to go.

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Five Liberal Democrat MPs rebelled on Wednesday night against the

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Coalition government over the amounts of money being allocated to

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local councils by Whitehall. The Lib Dems were not happy. I hope one of

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the things that the minister can see across the house and across the

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parties and the rural urban divide is a desire to fundamentally look at

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how we reform local government finance going forward. But

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fundamentally, my complaint is why should some of the poorest people in

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the country on the lowest wages pay far more in council tax and see far

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less crimes coming in from central government and at the same time see

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local services in raging around them? The argument over climate

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change and whether it is man-made continues. It caused this angry

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moment when a climate change sceptical MP challenges a scientist.

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You are looking at temperature change. Which time period you choose

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makes a critical difference to the results you get. All of that is

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carefully explains. If I can cut short a very long and irrelevant

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answer, I asked a very specific question. You did and I tried to get

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a very specific answer. You didn't. I asked why the judgement of the

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experts differed. You said it was because the experts start from the

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present climate, implying that the others didn't. I then said, am I

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correct? I am extremely satisfied by the answers we have had. It is

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disgraceful. We have a considerable agenda we want to cover. He is back,

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albeit briefly. The former Prime Minister Gordon Brown made a rare

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appearance in the Commons, speaking about the suffering of children and

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the conflict in Syria. It is officially, as you know, Madam

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Deputy Speaker, already the guest humanitarian tragedy since the

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Second World War. Some years from now, the world will look at what

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happened and wonder why we did so little. Faced with a catastrophe

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that has made more people permanently homeless than the world

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's most recent natural disasters from the agents in army of 2004 to

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the Haiti earthquake of 2010. Is this the best way to deal with

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street protests that get out of hand? Water cannons, and overseas to

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cope with unruly demonstrators but they have never been used on the

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British mainland. As discussion started using them in London, peers

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get their views in first. A pensioner was permanently blinded by

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water cannon in Germany. He was part of a protest to stop developers from

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cutting down some trees. I'm afraid things are changing. The public

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disorder will change its character over the years. We are not in that

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era any more. What impact would it have to see London under seat and

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cannons being employed? What would be the impact on the economy and

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tourists? Is Westminster becoming ever more male? A female MP

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announces she is stepping down at the election, earning herself some

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glowing tributes in the chamber. Can adversely pay tribute to the

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honourable lady who know is not standing again at the next election

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and threw her time in Parliament has been a real supporter of many

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children in Kayu, particularly the most vulnerable. -- children in

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care. I know families are very thankful for the work she has done.

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I echo entirely what the minister has said. This house is losing five

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to many outstanding members and find too many outstanding female members.

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Rainstorms and gale force winds set the political weather this week.

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