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Now on BBC News ` The Week in Parliament.

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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament. Was it an election`

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winning Budget? It was certainly one that ruffled a few feathers in the

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pensions industry. The message from this Budget is this. You have earned

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it, you have saved it and this Government is on your side. Living

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standards down, month after month, year after year. Looking for that

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all`important present for the five`year`old Wannabe MP? We found

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the very thing in the Parliamentary Gift Shop. And we asked no less a

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person than the Deputy Commons Speaker to road test it. We bring

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George on, years there, he is ready to go, he has himself lined up and

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we start. The Chamber of the Commons, a perfect model of

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democracy. Well, a model, anyway. But first, it was the fifth Budget

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of Chancellor George Osborne, and it was almost certainly the one he most

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enjoyed delivering, as the economy slowly climbs towards the sunlit

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uplands from its years in the doldrums. Budget day started on

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Wednesday in traditional fashion, with the Chancellor and his Treasury

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team posing for photographs in Downing Street. Then on to the

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Commons, and a roar of delight from the Conservative benches.

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Mr Deputy Speaker, I can report today that the economy is continuing

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to recover and recovering faster than forecast.

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And so on to his announcement, firstly on income taxes. There will

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be no income tax on the first ?10,500.

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10,500 pounds tax`free. ?800 less in tax every year for the typical

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taxpayer. News for savers and pensioners.

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So we will launch the new pension bond. It will be issued by national

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savings and investments, open to everybody aged 65 and over and

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available from January next year. The exact rate will be set in the

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autumn to insure the best possible offer but our assumption is 2.8% for

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a one`year bond and 4% on a three`year bond. The ?15,000 new

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ISA. The message from this Budget is

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this. You have earned it, you have saved it and this Government is on

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your side. And it is goodbye to the old pound coin. One in ?30 coins are

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counterfeit and that costs businesses and taxpayers millions

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each year. So I can tell them we will move to a new highly secure ?1

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coin. It will blend the security features of the future with the

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inspiration from our past. In honour of our Queen, the coin will take the

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shape of one of the first point she appeared on, with a more resilient

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pound for a more resilient economy. And to sum it all up... The

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forecasts are presented show growth up, jobs up, the deficit down. Now

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we are secure in Britain's economic future with manufacturing promoted,

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working toward it, saving supported, with the help of the British people,

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we're turning our country around. We are building a resilient economy.

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This is a Budget for the makers, the doers and the savers, and I commend

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it to the House. It The opposition leader said Mr

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Osborne had ignored something. He spoke for nearly an hour but he did

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not mention one central fact. The working people of Britain are worse

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off under the Tories. Living standards down, month after month,

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year after year. 2011, living standards down. 2012, living

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standards down. 2013, living standards down. And since the

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election, working people's living standards, ?1600 a year down. You

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are worse off under the Tories. All the Prime Minister needs to do is

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nod his head if he is going to rule out cutting the 45p tax rate down to

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40p in the next Parliament. Just nod your head. Come on, come on! There

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you have it! There you have it, Mr Deputy Speaker. There they go again!

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They won't rule it out. Doesn't it say all about them? They really do

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believe that the way you make the rich work hard is to make them

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richer and the way you make everyone else were card is by making them

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poorer! So that was Wednesday in the Commons. There's on odd technicality

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about the Budget. It's not chaired by the Speaker. He hands over to his

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deputy, who has the additional title of Chairman of Ways and Means. That

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ancient post is now occupied by the MP Lindsay Hoyle, for many years a

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foot soldier on the Labour backbenches. He took a particular

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interest in the Post Office. Here's a reminder of his inquisitorial ways

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in a committee session back in 2008. Had you written to us, we would have

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responded to you directly. You really don't want to make matters

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worse. Let's go through it. Why does it take at least two to three weeks

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for you to answer him that you manage to answer on the day he

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closed the Post Office? You have to feel embarrassed by that yourself,

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surely? Or have you no shame whatsoever?! You don't know the

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upset this has caused. You don't care. I care and it is time you have

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a conscience as well. Lindsay Hoyle, a man in charge of our miniature

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Commons Chamber. Welcome to the programme. A fairly lively backbench

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MP. Did you find it fairly easy to make the transition to being a

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Deputy Speaker of the Commons? Well, people keep saying, we remember you,

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and of course it is a different transition but you make your choice

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and I've made my choice. And I'd have to say, I am very happy with

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doing this job. I love this job and it is an absolute privilege. Why

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were you so keen to be Deputy Speaker? I knew nobody would tap me

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on the shoulder and ask me, would you like to be Deputy Speaker? But

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when they created elections for it, I thought, I am pretty good at

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winning marginals, I could have a go at this. It was now time for a

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change because they had done the marginals and Select Committees for

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years. And I've got support from both sides of the House. This

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historic title, it doesn't mean a lot to everybody. Why is it called

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that? Obviously it is about the ways and means of gathering taxation, the

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raising of it and the spending of it. So it was Chairman of ways and

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Means and supply, and the supply being how it is then spent, and that

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is where it comes from. It was about the House saying to the speaker and

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the King, we are going to be in charge of this, and then they

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sidelined the speaker and the King. Let's see you in action during

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Wednesday's debate. Order! The gentleman needs to get to

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the end of his speech without myself... Without anybody having to

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intervene. Chancellor of the Exchequer. I think the deputy chief

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whip knows better and I hope he will calm down a little bit more. We have

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not even got started! There may be an influence of the Wolves in the

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pack building around. It won't be used in this chamber. It can be used

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in the zoo but not here! I won't tell you again. I am sure he will be

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better off giving a little bit of meat rather than what he is giving

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at the moment! Well, that is something! You don't

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want to be too heavy`handed. It is trying to bring some humour and keep

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it at a level. What you cannot have is a sterile chamber. I've recognise

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that. So it is about control without being too heavy`handed. We got

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through it. Lots of people came up from different sides of the House

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and said, well done, not easy. Other people seem to be pleased with my

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performance but it is very hard judging yourself. You look back and

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it seems to go OK. Easier than last year. It wasn't as rowdy as last

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year, so from that point of view, that is good. What is your formula

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for dealing with a rowdy and from bust years House of Commons? Do you

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have an approach that you think is the secret? It is always about

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knowing where the trouble is going to come from. The groupings. I had a

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look out and when I came in, had a quick peep around and look where to

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see whether potential noise would come from. It is trying to work out

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where the noises coming from and trying to assess the mood of the

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House and then you can begin to use the House in the best way possible

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to get it through the Budget, making sure everyone can be heard and

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giving some leniency and allowing some to come back. You have to allow

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the excitement, the thing to breathe and people enjoy it without it going

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too far. So the temperature rising nicely without reaching boiling

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point. OK. In the studio, we have this splendid new addition from the

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Parliamentary gift shop. The replica, the miniature replica House

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of Commons chamber. It is not exactly hi`tech, is it?! No, but

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some might say the House of Commons still has to come forward to the

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modern age. I think it is good as it is and maybe this reflects the

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House. I have the speaker here and I want you to take him and pretend he

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is the Deputy Speaker. Can you pretend this is Budget day, we are

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waiting for the Chancellor, so here we go. This is me? My word! I have

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lost some weight! I come in and have look where the potential noise could

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come from. I have a quick peek spot where the MPs are and as we are

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coming towards the last Prime Minister's Questions, Islip around,

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and we work of 18 so Mr Speaker slips out and Islip straight into

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the chair. `` I slip around. `` we work as a team. I shout out, order,

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order, the Chancellor, George Osborne.

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He comes on and is ready to go and he has himself lined up. We have the

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opposition side there, the Leader of the Opposition, the Chancellor with

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the dispatch boxes. As well as the Mace! It is fantastic! This is

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superb! This is the kit to have. I think my grandkids will love this

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when I'd buy it! Thank you so much for coming in. You were the Deputy

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Speaker of the Commons. `` are. Do you fancy the top job? Like

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everything, I worked as a team. We have a speaker and I'm happy to work

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with him. Obviously, I love the job and it is an absolute privilege to

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be the Deputy Speaker. It is a great job have already so let's worry

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about the job I've got. Thank you very much indeed.

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September the 18th is gradually getting closer. Yet the race for and

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against Scottish independence is still too close to be called with

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absolute certainty. We're currently mid`way through the Scottish party

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conference season. Last week, it was the Conservatives, this weekend

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Labour, and coming up soon, the Lib Dems, and the SNP. The first three

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of those parties are firmly on the pro`unionist side, and they're

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planning the post`referendum future of Scotland, assuming of course

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there's a No result. The Lib Dems are pushing for a Federalist UK with

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Scotland responsible for virtually all domestic decision`making. The

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Scottish Conservatives have announced increased control for the

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Scottish Parliament over income tax raising, with an inquiry by Lord

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Strathclyde to come up with further initiatives. As for Labour, Holyrood

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would get control over housing benefit and be able to vary tax by

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up to 15 pence in the pound. And I'm joined now by BBC Scotland's

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Westminster correspondent David Porter. Welcome. We saw three policy

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statements from the main UK political parties. Do you detect

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anything like a unified approach from them? We are inching towards a

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consensus for those parties who want Scotland to remain part of a United

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Kingdom. If they win the vote, the status quo will not be the situation

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that they will have to offer the Scottish Parliament and Scotland

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more powers. Who knows what happens after September? They may have the

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equivalent of a new constitutional question but what they will want to

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do, at least initially, is then come up with policies for their

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individual manifestoes, but each would end up giving Scotland more

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power. Do you find it more surprising that the Conservatives

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have an initiative or Labour's proposals are quite modest and

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cautious? It's hard to get total agreement within all the parties.

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There are some who want to go further than others, which means

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they are having to go at a fairly slow pace. The Conservatives have

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decided that they are having to look at thinking afresh, embracing

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devolution more than they have ever embraced it before. As far as Labour

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is concerned, this is a pragmatic approach. They know there are

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different shades of opinion. Some favour more devolution, some never

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really wanted to embrace in the first place. Gordon Brown has made

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an intervention but is not part of the campaign. He seems to have a

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different campaign. It is not a terribly co`ordinated

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approach. That is a criticism people have made. Gordon Brown has made a

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few interventions. He made an intervention a couple of weeks ago

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and the document Labour has come up with is very similar to the one he

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was putting forward but so far, he has not been willing to stand under

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the campaign. He has wanted to ally his view to that of the Scottish

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Labour Party. That is partly tribal. She feels more at home in that

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environment. `` He. He probably also calculates as well that the key part

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of the electorate they have to achieve, some people in the West of

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Scotland. If he speaks to them directly, he may have more success.

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Opinion polls still suggesting the most popular option is for Devo Max,

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greater devolution for Scotland. It will be, should Scotland be an

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independent country? People think if opinion polls are correct and the

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people of Scotland vote no to independence, the other parties will

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come forward with their own plans. You could get Devo Max by the back

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door but that will take a few years to come. Thank you for joining us.

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And you can watch live coverage of labour's conference.

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And now a look at some of the other stories around Parliament in the

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last seven days. Following the Russian annexation of Crimea, David

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Cameron has condemned what he described as "the land grab" by

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President Putin. The Prime Minister told MPs the forthcoming meeting of

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the G8 group of leading industrial nations should consider expelling

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Russia. We should be absolutely clear about what has happened here.

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This is the annexation of one country's territory by another

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country. We need to move together with our allies and partners and we

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should be discussing whether or not to expel Russia permanently from the

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G8. The Prime Minister should know that from this side of the House, he

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will have our support for the toughest possible diplomatic and

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economic measures against the Russian Federation.

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What's the future of teaching assistants? Are they all needed?

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After suggestions that teachers could start doing the tasks that

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assistants do, an Education Minister says their jobs are safe. Are there

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plans to axe them? There is a misconception, which I want to

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address. There are claims that many will lose their jobs. I can assure

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the honourable gentleman and his colleagues that neither the

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Department of Education nor the government has any plans or powers

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to do this. Can we rely on what it says on the tin or are there Trading

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Standards problems surrounding much of our food? A Labour peer questions

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if we actually know what we're eating. Call me old`fashioned, but I

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like my ham to actually be ham! And not poultry dyed pink or meat

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emulsion, whatever that is! I want fruit juice to be just that and not

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laced with vegetable oil that is used in retardants. I agree with

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much of the sentiment behind this question. In his interim report,

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Professor Elliott recognises that the United Kingdom has access to

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some of the safest food in the world but we should not be complacent. We

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are working to improve our intelligence gathering and sharing.

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It's 20 years since women were first ordained into the priesthood in the

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Anglican Church. No women bishops yet but they're coming soon. MPs

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mark two decades of female priests. One figure has described the role of

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women priests as transformational, both for the church and work of the

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churches in the local community. It fills me with great joy to be here,

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20 years on, and to celebrate something which is so unremarkable

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and look forward to a time this year when we may get our first woman

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consecrated as a bishop. And tributes are paid to the man whose

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parliamentary career spanned 50 years: Tony Benn. Speech`maker,

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campaigner, crusader, one of Parliament's finest. His son recalls

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his wicked sense of humour. On one occasion, as part of a group of

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Labour MPs, they decided to delay a division because they wanted to make

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trouble for the government. The sergeant was dispatched to

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investigate and told them if they didn't move, he would have to take

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their names. My father looked at him and said, but that would be

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completely contrary to Mr Speaker's ruling of 1622! After the sergeant

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had departed, dad turned to his fellow conspirators, and with that

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mischievous twinkle in his eye, admitted he had just named that. ``

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made that up. But it seemed to have done the trick. Hilary Benn

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recalling the mischievous side of his father, Tony. Now, following the

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stories of, shall we say, "creative" tax arrangements by companies such

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as Amazon and Google, the Fair Tax Mark was launched earlier this year

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to reward companies judged to have demonstrated good practice in their

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tax payments. In the Budget on Wednesday, the Chancellor announced

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further measures to crack down on avoidance. Earlier, the Green MP

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Caroline Lucas had led a debate on how to give greater recognition to

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companies which achieve high standards. Amidst the Budget day

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security helicopters, she explained to Kate Whannel exactly what the

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Fair Tax Mark is. It is very similar to the Fair Trade mark in the sense

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that it is a simple given to companies who are paying their fair

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share of tax. It has a group of academics, professionals,

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accountants behind it who will monitor companies and award this

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mark to those that are paying a fair share of tax and we are hopeful that

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will give consumers and other companies information they need when

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they are making decisions about how to use their money. Do consumers

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have the power to change companies' behaviour? We know that tax

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avoidance and evasion is the number one issue that people care about

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when it comes business relations. It would be a complacent company that

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didn't take account of the fact this is an issue more and more people are

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aware of. They are asking questions. If government wanted to change

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loopholes, they should, so why should companies act when government

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won't? I don't know why the government won't act more

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ambitiously on this. It's a matter of pressure to try and persuade them

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to do so. If we get more companies signing up to be Fair Tax mark, that

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might send a signal to government. Caroline Lucas. You're watching The

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Week In Parliament, after a week when the Budget debate was again

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chaired, impeccably, by the Deputy Speaker of the Commons.

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