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independence. Mibbes Aye, Mibbes Naw. I'll be like, "That's it `

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let's get voting!" Our cameras have spent the last four

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months in the homes of voters. From castles to council flats, we've

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followed Scots from wealthy and poorer backgrounds. # Down on the

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West Coast, they got a sayin' # "If you're not drinkin' then you're not

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playin'" # But you've got the music... #. A few have always known

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know how they'll vote, but most started the campaign with an open

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mind. Here's what you missed last time. Shaun the hairdresser hoped

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for some inspiration at the salon, but he still has no idea how he's

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going to vote. Simon, the laird, lives in this castle and he's always

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known how he'll be voting. No. Jessica and her fiance, Mark, were

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involved in a family stooshie. We can still be part of Britain and

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still be proud Scots. We're not, though, cos we're a forgotten

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nation. Lifelong friends, Stewart and Frank, run this boat together.

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Stewart's undecided and Frank's a Yes. He's been trying to convince

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his shipmate to follow the same course. And that's what you missed

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on Mibbes Aye, Mibbes Naw. We'll be watching to see how our

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voters make their momentous decision and we've been giving them some

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homework, too ` campaign highlights to wile away those long summer

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nights, starting with news of a magical boost for the No Campaign.

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JK Rowling made the headlines, not for writing a new bestseller, but

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for writing a rather large cheque. REPORTER: The ?1 million she's

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donated to Better Together is a major boost to their campaign. In a

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statement, she said... There's always risks there. You still never

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fully know what's going to happen. Aye, well, going independent's too

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big a risk. Exactly. "I just hope with all my heart that we never have

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cause to look back and feel that we made a historically bad mistake."

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She's a much respected figure throughout Scotland, I think. She's

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got a place in every family in Scotland and I think she's come to

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the conclusion that we're better together, listening to the

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arguments, so it's a very important endorsement for us. That's right,

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and she writes fiction, Margaret! REPORTER: The Edinburgh`based author

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says Scotland is an exceptional country, that the vision set out by

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Yes supporters is highly appealing, but she's worried about the economy,

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the future of medical research. Gie your ?1 million pound to medical

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research, then. The Harry Potter author predicted that she might be

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demonised for speaking out about independence, and that was reflected

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by some of the more vitriolic reactions to her comments on Twitter

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today. That's ridiculous. If the wifey's got her opinion, she's got

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her opinion. Yeah, but there's ae gonnae be a slagging match in

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something as big as this, Frank. At the end of the day, whether it's a

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Yes or a No vote, we all have to live together here. You dinnae want

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bad blood to come out of any of this. # I'll be a thorn in your side

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# Till you die... #. There's no room for bad blood on Frank and Stewart's

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boat. # If we sink # We lift our love. These shipmates don't just run

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this charter business together ` they've been best pals since they

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were eight years old. # I'll be a thorn in your side # For always # If

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we sink # We lift our love... #. Today, they're taking family and

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friends on a trip to see a shipwreck. The boat they're looking

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at was bombed by a German plane during the Second World War. Frank's

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neighbour, Hebbie, watched it happen as a young boy in 1943. It's very

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interesting to see it. Yeah. After all these years! What, did you have

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anti`aircraft guns in...? Reminiscing soon turns to

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referendum. How do you feel aboot the referendum, Hebbie? The

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referendum? Oh, I think they should keep the UK together. Keep it

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together! I think there's too many unanswered questions. It seems that

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Stewart is siding with Frank's neighbour instead of his best pal.

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Hawick`born Frank is voting Yes, while native Shetlander, Stewart,

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seems reluctant to leave Britain behind. My grandad, 100 years ago

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this year, was in France, fighting for Britain. Fighting for everybody

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that lives in this country now. And he was fighting wi' Cockneys and

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Yorkshiremen and guys fae Liverpool, boys fae Glasgow ` they were all

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British. And I dinnae want tae lose that. Yeah, but if you go back 300

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years ago, we were fighting instead of friends. We were fighting amongst

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each other. Naw ` that's you guys fae bloody Hawick! You Border guys.

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We never were fighting wi' them. The last time we were fighting with

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anybody was aboot 500 years ago. Touche?! All right! OK. While

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Stewart contemplates the past in trying to help shape his decision,

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two pals in Glasgow contemplate voting for the very first time. What

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do you think? In a month's time, when it comes to it, what do you

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think you're going to do? I don't know! I'm terrible at making

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decisions! Not got long left now ` what are you going to do? I know. I

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don't know! I don't know ` I'll need to think about it nearer the time.

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And then it'll be a last`minute decision. I said like... Not long

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ago, I said that I was going to just flip a coin and say, yes ` heads,

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tails ` no! I won't do that but I'll need to just... I don't know. I've

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still no decided ` at all. I know. It's tricky, isn't it? So far,

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undecided voter Shaun has been getting most of his information from

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clients and colleagues at the salon. I think a lot of stuff is just... I

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don't even know what they're saying! Perhaps some "me time" will help

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make things clearer for him. I'm just putting on my face for going

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out in drag. I like to go out as a boy as well sometimes, so this is

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just a bit of fun for me. When I get dressed up I am called Peaches. I

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call myself Peaches so, just short and sweet. Peachalicious! All my

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friends that are coming round today, they're all for the yes ` they're

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all voting yes. I always just think because I've got a job and I just

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get on with my normal, everyday life I don't really think it's going to

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affect me. Maybe it will when it happens and all that kind of stuff.

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Maybe it will affect me but, at the moment, I don't think by changing,

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like, just going independent and changing Scotland, it's going to

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change that much for me, I don't think. But maybe it will. I just

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don't think it will ` I go to my work and do my days at work and go

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and get my night out, go and see my family and that. I don't know how

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it's going to change that much, to be fair. We're never going to know

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until we try it, so... That's what people keep saying, and if it

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doesn't work out then we just have to try and pick ourselves back up

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again. It is my decision, obviously, at the end of the day, but I'm just

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getting the decision from my friends anyway. So, that's why I'm thinking,

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maybe I should be a sheep and follow the crowd! It's the height of

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summer, but our national raincloud threatens to put a dampener on

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Glasgow's Pride, though nothing's going to rain on Shaun's parade.

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He's on a mission today and seems determined to make up his

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mind...with a little help from his friends. But what if we went

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independent and it went all a flop? We can't go crawling back, can we? I

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think it would be an amazing thing now. We'd get a good party, we'd get

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to live it up. But it's whether it's good for the next generations. And I

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just think it depends. But then it's up to the Scottish people then, cos

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it's about who we vote in ` what we decide. And I guess that's the whole

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point of the exercise. It's up to us. I've spoken to Gazelle and I've

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spoken to these guys and they all vote yes and I was thinking I was

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in`between. When it first started, I was yes and then I went in`between,

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and I still want to say no, so I can disagree with them cos a bit of a

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debate would be fabulous! Are you still no? No, I'm in`between ` I've

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always been in`between. Are you closer to yes now? Cos of all yous `

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that's what I was saying earlier on ` I'm closer to yes. Can you imagine

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the party? Imagine the yes vote party? Oh, well, I'm definitely yes!

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I don't understand it anyway so I'll just vote yes, so I'll be with all

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my pals and we can all vote yes and we can all be fabulous together.

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Woooo! If it does become an independent Scotland, I hope it's a

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fabulous Scotland and it's full of glitter! Whoo! As Peaches and her

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pals head off into the dreich Glasgow night, we can but ponder a

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sky full of glitter! MUSIC: "Sky Full Of Stars" by Coldplay. Back at

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the castle, the laird and his wife are in no mood for partying. How are

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they going to fund all of this? To be honest, I agree, if you could

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have decent pensions, people who genuinely need benefits having a

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better standard of life, I agree with all of that, but how is it

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going to be funded? It's not just about we can do it, how we going to

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do it? That's what I want to know. I know. What's the advantages we're

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getting out of independence anyway? None. They're talking about more

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devolution anyway, so the power is going to be more in Edinburgh

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anyway. But, right... Free childcare ` SNP are in power right now ` why

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are they not giving it to me right now? If I had free childcare, I

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could go out to work. Out to work rather than contribute the tiny

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amounts I'm contributing to the economy, I could be contributing a

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lot more. Why do they have to wait until independence to do it? More

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homework for our voters. Back in June, some research about the

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working`class vote was making the news. In every election, there's a

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type of voter that the politicians are just desperate to attract. And

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now, in this independence referendum, there's a new target.

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Who is it? For the sake of argument, we'll call him Easterhouse man...or

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woman. So who are we talking about? Well, it's people from working`class

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areas, on lower incomes, who lean to the left, and the evidence suggests

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many are for independence. I've heard this before. I haven't. So

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those that live in the more deprived neighbourhoods of Scotland are more

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likely to vote yes, and those that live in the most affluent

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neighbourhoods are more likely to vote no. I wonder why? Because I

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think the SNP are playing on the fact that... They're saying that

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life will be better. So where do we find our Easterhouse voter on a wet

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Wednesday afternoon? Whoo! Despite the labels, not everyone here's

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convinced by the SNP's plans. It's all right saying increase the

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minimum wage, but when you cannae get a job what good's bloody talking

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about increasing the minimum wage? All the kids has not got a job to go

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to, so... That's a good point, actually. I don't want to use euros

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or anything like that. I've used them when I've been on holiday, and

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I just don't like them. They all talk the same, they all say the same

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` they're gonnae dae this, they're gonnae dae that, then when they get

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in, they all dae the bloody same, so... Bang on! How many people think

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that ` what she just said? I know. Say wan thing, dae another. The

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higher up the ranks you go, I think it may still be no. If you're in

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amongst the working classes, I think the yes vote will be a strong vote.

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More to gain, less to lose. But half the working class are not going to

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vote. How? I don't think hardly anybody's hardly going to vote

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because I spoke to all my family ` my sisters, my mum, my dad... They

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not voting?! Why? Because they don't know who to vote for. They're not

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interested. Working class is traditionally SNP or Labour, and an

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awful lot of people associate the no vote with the Conservatives. And

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it's not, strictly speaking, true because it's all of the other

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parties, apart from the SNP are saying that they think it should be

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a no. But, unfortunately, it's getting tarred with a Tory brush,

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basically. People at the top of the scale it's like... "I've got X

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amount of money, I've got my property, "I've got business

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interests here, I've got business interests "in England ` how's it

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going to affect me financially?" So, obviously, it's a bigger decision

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for them on a personal level. More risk for them to consider. On the

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face of it, Andy and Simon may not appear to have much in common. One

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lives in a castle, the other in a council bedsit. Simon works on his

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own estate, while Andy works to maintain someone else's. But they do

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have at least one thing in common ` they're both passionate about their

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country, just in slightly different ways. Simon thinks the idea of

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independence is too drastic. Need to get from the top of the cliff to the

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bottom, you can either jump and hope the water's deep enough, or you can

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use a ladder or a rope or something ` let's be a little bit more

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sensible about it. Andy's ready to take the plunge. Sometimes, people

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in Scotland can diverge from our southern neighbours when it comes to

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things like welfare cuts, bedroom tax, invading other countries. I

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mean, a lot of the time, people in Scotland don't go for that, but

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we're carried along by the majority. So if we have our own say in that,

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we can make our own decisions, basically. And it's basically like

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growing up. I mean, I've grown up in my life. I sort of became

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independent and self`sufficient. I don't see why a country can't do it

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either, you know? DRILLS WHIR Big, grown up Andy is doing a spot of

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DIY. DRILLS WHIR. Big, grown up Andy is

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doing a spot of DIY. He's preparing to get his message out there. You

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can knock these up in no time at all and, of course, because it's yes,

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the colour scheme doesn't matter, cos that was thought out beforehand,

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I think. And three letters, which is not Better Together which is... Or

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no, which is negative. Basically it's a case of drill a couple of

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holes, or whatever, and just put them up wherever you want. Just take

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a board, pick a spot... Done ` that's one. Then just repeat the

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process until you get bored ` no pun intended! Simon's not shy about

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showing his allegiance either, but today he's not on the campaign trail

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` he's on the tourist trail. There are currently 25 Crawfords staying

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at his castle ` from America, Canada and England. They've come to

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celebrate their clan ` and all things Scottish.

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Robert The Bruce, himself, is buried in the Abbey. Within the grounds of

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the Abbey, we have Wallace's mother, Margaret Crawford, who you all know

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is one of the reasons why we have that great connection with Wallace.

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Today, Simon's brought the Crawford clan to Dunfermline Abbey ` an

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important site in the history of William Wallace and Robert The Bruce

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` who just happen to be a couple of his relatives. I've always kind of

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known about my history and the family history, so I suppose it just

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means I'm very passionate about Scotland and where we've come from

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to get to where we are now. It does really kind of... It kind of gets

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you in the pit of your stomach thinking, "Oh the real Scottishness

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of what we're looking at," all the different sites, going round all the

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old ruins and Bannockburn at the weekend and places like this. As the

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pilgrimage continues for Simon and his tourists, it's all one`way

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traffic in Andy's drive for independence. Well, Monday was the

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100 days to the referendum, so now's the time when we start to put up

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boards, flags, stuff like that... ...just in the build`up to the

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referendum. But it's just basically... It's quite a good way

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to reach people because a lot of these roads are quite busy during

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rush hour, so you put a board up saying anything, just like, "Yes,"

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hundreds, if no thousands, of people see it in 24 hours. So even if

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they're taken down within a week or so, they've served their purpose

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because so many people have seen them. There's nothing really UK

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unionists can tell me to make me feel, you know, I'd rather stick

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with the UK. Because every day we're in the UK I think I'm losing

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something. I think there's somebody taking advantage or somebody getting

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one over on me. It seems that a change in the political landscape

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has not been the only kind of change on Andy's mind. You've obviously had

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a big change in the facial`hair stakes. ANDY LAUGHS. No change in

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your vote, though? No, no, no, no, no! Naw, I've still got a pulse!

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Naw, naw, still got the pulse! Simon's finished his tour`guide

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duties for the day and is throwing an unseasonal Burns supper for his

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guests. The Haggis! THEY TOAST THE HAGGIS.

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Could any of this stuff this week ` revisiting all these sights and, you

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know, it's been the anniversary of Bannockburn... Yeah, were at both

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Saturday and Sunday at the Bannockburn Live and the Pipe Fest

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on Friday. And you're going to ask me, is that going to change my

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mind?! No, why would it change my mind? I still think Scotland's the

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best country in the world but it doesn't need to be independent to be

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the best country in the world! Tonight is the last night at the

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castle for the visiting Crawford clan. They have shared ten days of

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all things Scottish with their cousin Simon. It's not that I think

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it's better for me, because it's not going to make any odds to me either

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way, we will carry on being here and we will see Scotland through. So, it

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doesn't matter which way it goes, but I think Scotland will do better

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if we stay in the union. "Whene'er to Drink you are inclin'd, Or

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Cutty`sarks rin in your mind, Think ye may buy the joys o'er dear,

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Remember Tam O'Shanter's mare." CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Homework time

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again for our voters. It's probably fair to say that on the road to the

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referendum, there has been one particular topic that has come up

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again and again and again and again. Perhaps man's best friend could shed

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some light on the matter, in this clip, produced by supporters of the

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Yes campaign. What's the only pound you cannae spend? The dog pound!

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Aye, but there's a pound we can all spend, even after independence. And

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that's the pound we have right now. A pound is a pound, whether it's got

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a picture of the Queen, Rabbie Burns, or even me. In future, will

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Scotland have its own currency? The Highland goat! Aye, it's goat, not

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groat. "I'll give you two goats for that pint of milk!". HE LAUGHS.

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Well, Ireland kept the pound when it became independent in 1922, and kept

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it for over 50 years. And look how great they are doing now! Yeah,

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exactly. Whoo, I want to be just like Ireland! But the UK Government

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has said it might not want to share. The currency is under the pound, if

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we don't have the pound, then... That's not going to happen, they

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realise that now. Before we split up with them, they are just trying to

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say, "Yous have part of that debt..." But they won't have an

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independent Scotland and not give us the pound, because there is too

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much... They are missing out on too much. The pound belongs as much to

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Scotland as it does to the rest of the UK. It's like a shared asset.

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But if they want to keep all the assets after independence, then they

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get to keep the debts as well. That thing's very good. Vote yes! I'm

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joking. I love this idea that theoretically, if Scotland doesn't

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get the pound, that then, we manage to magically ditch all the debt...

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Get rid of all our debt. No, Scotland has to take some of the

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portion of debt that the UK has had. Mark is standing firm, arguing his

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case for the union, with mixed results. At the minute, you get your

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prescriptions and all that free, right? You get free eye tests. Aye,

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here, only in Scotland. So, if we go independent, how will we be able to

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keep that up? But that's only in Scotland anyway. Is it? Uh`huh.

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Jessica seemed to be swinging towards a no vote, and even baby

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Oliver had got in on the act. Are you voting no, yeah? BABY GURGLES.

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He's voting no as well. But could there be trouble in paradise? I just

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think sometimes he talks nonsense and I'm just like, I can't be

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bothered listening to him. You know women and guys, don't you? Guys

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aren't allowed an opinion and women are allowed everything, so... Mark

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may think he's proved his point, but it seems that Jessica has been doing

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some extra homework on her own. I was voting no just because I thought

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it was the right thing to do, but when I've actually took

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responsibility and read up about it and things, and realised the kind of

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benefits for Scotland to be an independent country, I don't think

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it's more that I've surprised myself, it's more that I feel I'm

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making a responsible decision. For me, I think yes is the right thing

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to do. Mum Sharleen has arrived for lunch with Jessica and baby Oliver.

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She has always been voting yes and had hoped that her daughter would

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join her. So, what has changed? Because you were yes, then you were

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undecided... Just all the information about it. I don't want

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to have to pay ?7.85 for prescriptions, I don't want to have

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to pay ?9,000 for him to go to university. Just, like, the NHS is

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going to be privatised, there's nothing beneficial to stay part of

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the UK. Are you totally, totally yes? Totally. Totally yes? So, when

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you go into the box on the 18th, you're going to say yes? Uh`huh. So,

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what does Mark think about the fact that you're totally yes now? He said

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he will divorce me if... SHE LAUGHS. ..if I vote yes. Just because

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he's... Joking? Or is he meaning it? Well, he just likes being, totally,

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like... Together, as a union. Next week on Mibbes Aye, Mibbes Naw...

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Could there be more than one union at risk? If things don't go the way

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you're planning, what is your plan B? Stewart finally makes his

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decision. I've been doing an awful lot of hard thinking about this. But

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is it the one that Frank has been hoping for? It is looking fine

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overnight, where we get clear skies there will be some mist and fog.

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Where there is cloud, a little less cold.

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Where there is cloud, a little less Temperatures around 11 or 12

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