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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament.

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Coming up on this programme: There's anger in the Commons

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as the Health Secretary says he will impose a new contract

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Does the Secretary of State not feel a sense of shame?

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It wasn't me that refused to sit round the table and talk

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Six out of ten renters have issues such as damp,

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You can only restore existing houses, you can only build

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new houses, you can only support people into those houses if you have

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And extra help for rural cotncils is welcomed with open arms.

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If it was Parliamentary, Mr Speaker, I am sure that rural and local

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government would be planting a big wet kiss on the cheek

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Find out why Simon Hoare was feeling the love,

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But first, it's a dispute that's turned into a very bitter ptblic

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wrangle, as the Government attempts to make changes

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The Government insists the current contract is unfair on all concerned

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and began to draw-up plans for change back in 2012.

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It is pledging to increase junior doctors' pay.

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But, as part of a commitment to a seven-day NHS, the plans

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will also make it cheaper to roster extra doctors on at weekends.

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Therefore, medics are likelx to find they are working more weekends,

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which, under the existing contract, would have led to extra pay.

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After a final take-it-or-le`ve-it offer was rejected by the doctors

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union, the BMA, Jeremy Hunt, said he would impose

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Under the existing contract, doctors can receive the samd pay

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for working quite different amounts of unsocial hours.

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Doctors not working nights can be paid the same as those who do.

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And if one doctor works just one hour over the maximum shift length

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it can trigger a 66% pay rise for all doctors on that rot`.

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Tired doctors risk patient safety, so in the new contract,

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the maximum number of hours that can be worked in one week will be

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The maximum number of consecutive nights doctors can be asked to work

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The maximum number of consecutive long days will be reduced from seven

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to five, and no doctor will ever be rostered consecutive weekends.

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Because we do not want take,home pay to go down for junior doctors,

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after updated modelling I c`n tell the House these changes will allow

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an increase in basic salary of not 11% as previously

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Three-quarters of doctors whll see a take-home pay rise and no trainee

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working within contracted hours will have their pay cut.

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Jeremy Hunt also announced a review into ways to

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Mr Speaker, this whole dispute could have been

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The Health Secretary's failtre to listen to junior doctors,

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his deeply dubious misrepresentation of research about care at wdekends

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and his desire to make thesd contract negotiations

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into a symbolic fight for ddlivery of seven-day services has ldd

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to a situation which has bedn unprecedented in my lifetimd.

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Can the Health Secretary not see that imposing a new contract

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which does not enjoy the confidence of junior doctors will destroy

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morale, which is already at rock bottom?

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She feared many doctors would head for countries like Australi`.

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A poll earlier this week fotnd that nearly 90% of junior doctors

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are prepared to leave the NHS if the contract is imposed.

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How does the Health Secretary propose to develop seven-dax

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services with one tenth of the current junior doctor workforce?

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How can it possibly be right for us to be training junior doctors

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and the consultants of tomorrow only to be exporting them en masse

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It is quite obvious that after three years that the BMA were prepared

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just to let the whole thing drag on, with talks and days of action

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until he either abandoned the seven-day service or gave them

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an enormous pay settlements in order to buy them to do it.

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The problem around recognithon of unsocial hours may incre`se

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the difficulty we already h`ve in recruiting people for actte

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specialties - A, Maternitx and Acute Medicine.

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What we now need is to move forward in a positive spirit that actually

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brings this dispute to an end, takes the temperature down

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and actually recognises that we all want the same thing

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Will he entertain the idea of a commission, as advocatdd

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by my right honourable friend the Member for North Norfolk,

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and indeed others on both sides of this House,

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to find a long-term consenstal solution to the growing health

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I think the trouble with colmissions is they tend to take rather a long

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time to come up with their conclusions and we need to sort out

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I spent 30 years in the world of work representing employdes,

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conducting negotiations and solving disputes.

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I have seldom seen a sense of grievance so grotesquely

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mishandled, insulting the intelligence of junior doctors

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by telling them that they do not understand what is on offer.

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Does the Secretary of State not feel a sense of shame that his h`ndling

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of this dispute should have so poisoned relationships

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with junior doctors - the backbone of the National Health

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Mr Speaker, he can do a lot better than that.

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We have been willing to negotiate since June.

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It wasn't me that refused to sit round the table and talk

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until December, it was the BMA, who before even talking

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to the Government balloted for industrial action.

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What totally irresponsible behaviour.

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And if Labour were responsible they would be condemning

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A day earlier at Prime Minister's Questions,

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the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, raised not health, but houshng,

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accusing David Cameron of presiding over a crisis.

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Jeremy Corbyn began, as usu`l, by asking the Prime Minister

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a question from a member of the public.

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MPs cheered and laughed because the Labour Chief Whhp,

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Rosie Winterton, was sitting on the front bench just a fdw places

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written to me is in her 20s and she says...

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"I work incredibly hard at ly job, yet I'm still having to livd

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The lack of housing options, Mr Speaker, are forcing

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her to consider moving, even leaving the country.

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She asked the Prime Minister what action he is going to take

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to help young people and falilies suffering from unrealistic house

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prices and uncapped rents to get somewhere safe and secure to live?

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First of all, let me say to the Right Honourable Gentleman,

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when you get a letter from the Chief Whip,

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What I would say to Rosie, the Rosie who wrote to him,

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is we want to do everything we can to help young people

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That is why we have these help to save ISAs and I hopd

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We are cutting Rosie's taxes, so this year she will be able

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to earn ?11,000 before she starts paying any taxes.

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If Rosie is a tenant in a Housing Association hole

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she will be able to buy that home because we are introducing

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With Help To Buy she will bd able to register for help with getthng a

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smaller deposit on a winning her own home. Shelter found that six out of

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ten renters have issues such as damp, mould, leaking roofs `nd

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Windows. It is simply not good enough. Millions are struggling to

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get the home they deserve, lore families are slipping into temporary

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accommodation, homelessness rising, too few homes being built, social

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housing under pressure, famhlies forced into a low standard private

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housing. When is the Prime Linister point to realise that there is a

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housing crisis in Britain and his government needs to address it now

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so we do not continue with this dreadful situation in this country?

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Let me just take one of the figures that he mentions about homelessness.

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Homelessness is less than h`lf the peak today as it was under the last

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Labour government. There is a simple point here, you can only invest in

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new houses, only restore exhsting houses, only build new housds, only

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support people into those shtes is if you have a strong economx. A

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Conservative MP comment app`rently made at the Shadow Defence

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Secretary, Emily Thornbury, during a lively meeting of the Parli`mentary

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Labour Party. Reporters outside the room were tortured said the UK's

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nuclear weapons system, Trident could soon be as obsolete as

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Spitfire fighter aircraft after the Second World War. Spitfire were

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vital in us winning the Battle of Britain 75 years ago and kedping our

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country free from tyranny. However, there are some who fear that are

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independent nuclear deterrent could be as obsolete as the Spitfhre. Can

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my right honourable friend hs assure the house and the country that this

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is not the case. In reply, David Cameron quoted the Labour MP for

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Bridge End, Madeleine Moon. Another week, another completely ludicrous

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Labour position on defence. The last word should go to the honourable

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member for Bridge End to twdet did this, oh dear, oh dear, oh need to

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go to rest in a darkened room. I think the rest of party will be with

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Well down the corridor in the Lords, Labour's Defence Spokesman trged

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the Prime Minister to pull his finger out and get on with it

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The last government gave thd go ahead for initial work to start

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on replacing the UK's ageing Vanguard submarines,

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which are due to end their working lives in the late 20-20s.

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But this parliament is due to hold the final vote on replacing

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A Labour peer and former First Sea Lord began the qudstioning

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by urging the Government not to exploit Labour's anguish

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the crucially important the the crucially important the

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replacement of the sub Marines and the maintenance of the deterrent are

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to the security of our nation, yet the decision which has to bd made in

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the other places being delaxed and delayed. It could have been made at

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any time since last November. I know is fun to watch Labour wriggling in

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anguish and having cartoons such as in The Times with pictures of

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Spitfires, that is very amusing that actually this is too ilportant

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to score a party political points. I have no wish to score party

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political points on a matter as important as this one. Parlhament

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voted in 2007 to support thd programme to replace the Vanguard

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class submarines. That authorise the investment in the programme,

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including the design work and the longer lead. That is the st`ge we

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are at the moment. We had not meant there were only did it would not

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have been possible to design the successor submarines before the

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Vanguard class leads servicd -- leads service. We are moving ahead

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with all speed on this. I c`n say to him that the Parliamentary vote

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which we are committed to, hs only right and proper because it is right

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to give the democratically dlected chamber of parliament the

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opportunity to endorse the principle of the deterrent. Under this

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government we have seen a rdduction in the size of the Armed Forces we

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have no aircraft carriers any longer. At the time when thd

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Russians are increasing sublarine patrols by 50% we have no m`ritime

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patrol aircraft and on top of this the government wants to extdnd the

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most life of the Vanguard ntclear submarines. I would be less than

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honest if I didn't stand here and say my party has some probldms with

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defence, too. Noble Lords mhght have been reading about it in thd

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newspapers but there is one policy that does unite the two front

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ventures at least in this house so can I ask the noble Earl thd

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Minister if he will put a shmple question to his right honourable

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friend, the prime minister? It is this, Dave, pull your finger out and

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down well get on with committing ourselves to replacing the Trident

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programme because it is the first duty of any government to protect

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our country. I think the noble Lord is being less than generous to the

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government, which for the fhrst time in a long time, has increasdd the

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defence budget with an extensive programme of equipment.

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Now, as ever, it has been a busy week.

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Let's take a look at some of the other stories from around

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MPs have decided to end the practice of

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automatically naming any MP who is arrested.

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The decision followed a report from the Commons procedural

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The procedure committee is not asking for members of Parli`ment

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to receive special treatment in the eyes of the law.

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Such a request, if made, would be alien to the values

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of our committee and alien to the wishes of our

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All of us on the committee believe that the law

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should be applied equally to all citizens of the United Kingdom.

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But this presently is not the case in this House.

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In this House, in matters of policing and public

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order, the point of public notification occurs not at the point

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of charge, as is the case with our constituents

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If people wish to change thd law in relation to what happens

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when people are arrested, change the law.

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There is plenty of time on the parliamentary agenda

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for people to change the law and plenty of

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opportunities for the government to change the law.

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This is not the way to change it for manners of Parliament

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and therefore we should oppose this proposal.

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What we are doing is bringing members of

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Parliament in line with the law, the law that

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The Volkswagen diesel emisshons scandal was one of the reasons why

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the decision on the future of Heathrow Airport was del`yed

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according to the Transport Secretary.

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Patrick McLaughlin told the transport committee

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that the final decision wasn't put off

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because of the looming elections for London mayor.

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The third runway at Heathrow would cost ?17.5 billion

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and would increase capacity at the airport by 220,000

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As a result of what came out of the VW scandal and the use

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of those devices which gave us readings on cars which we wdre not

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expecting to have, that has caused more work to be done,

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as far as engine and exhaust pollution by the Department,

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that work is presently undergoing at the moment.

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English schools should be ghven the right to challenge the timings

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of visits by Ofsted inspectors and appeal against their findings.

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That was the demand of the Liberal Democrat MP who said

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the decisions of the school inspector

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had far reaching implications which could impact on a school's

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reputation, its funding, and even its very survival.

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Good teachers and heads are either diverted or stressed or leave

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the profession early or in worse cases, pass up

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We don't actually have in this country

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a collegial peer reviewed models on school improvement.

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Instead of that, we have, what can become at its

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worst, the equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition.

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It takes 15 minutes every thme they do it and now there ard calls

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The committee is suggesting that instead of being counted

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through, MPs could go into the lobby and vote electronically,

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saving time, and getting the results online

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In the last session of parlhament, there were 544 divisions

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in the Commons and even if three minutes had been saved from each

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one, even honest improvement on our current practice,

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this would have added up to a time saving of 27

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There was a warm welcome in the Commons on Wednesday

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Kamal El-Hajji was selected why a panel of MPs, headed

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The Serjeant at Arms is responsible for

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keeping order in the Commons chamber and is the only official

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in Parliament allowed to carry weapons,

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including the gilt, fine-bladed sword.

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Now to the committee corridor where Google executives told

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the Public Accounts Committde they understood public

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and at the firm's ?130 million UK tax bill.

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However, the witnesses maintain it was a fair

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amount of money, reached after an audit by Her Majesty

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The sessions started with enquiries about the salaries of senior

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Can you confirm reports that your Chief Executive

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I don't have an exact figure in front

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In the last few days, the new stock -based

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compensation was announced for our recently appointed Chief

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That is an amount which is based on the value of stocks and depends

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And your tax settlement that you announced a few weeks ago

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with HMRC, covering a ten year period,

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I'm just here, we are here for taxpayers in Britain.

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Do you hear the anger and frustration out there

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that with those huge figures, you settled for a feature of ?1 0

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And I welcome the chance to come and talk to you

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If that is relevant, I will happily disclose

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No, I'm asking you what you get paid.

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I will happily disclose that it it is a relevant

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I'm asking you so it is a relevant matter.

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Can you tell me what you get paid, please?

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I don't have the figure but I will happily

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You don't know what you get paid? LAUGHTER.

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Why did it take you six years, which is as long

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as the Second World War, to explain your

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One of the things they did hn that process was vague did take

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an extended period of time to put in the nature

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So, one of the things they did was slow down the processing,

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to ask us and other tax authorities to look at the nature

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So, they went back and look in the detail of how our

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But the timetable of the process is driven by HMRC,

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according to their published and fairly detailed standards.

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Tom 's team was fully involved in answering

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all the questions throughout that period.

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So, it was basically, you are saying, HMRC's fault

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They run the process, according to their published

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standards and requirements the government puts on them

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If it takes six years to investigate something,

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either you are very bad at explaining all they are very

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Next up was senior tax officials from HMRC,

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who were confident they had got the full tax

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What I hope the public will see is that HMRC has

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done a thorough, profession`l job and got the amount of tax

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that they can get from Google, under the law,

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and indeed, over the period of 010 to 2015, large businesses gdnerally,

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we got ?38 billion addition`l tax from large businesses.

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It is impossible to get that amount of

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money from large businesses without doing a thorough

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That is what I want the British public to believe.

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Whether they believed that the amount of tax that Google

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have to pay, under the law, is fair or not, is a matter for them

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to debate but it is not a m`tter for which I can account.

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And HMRC insisted it was not outmanoeuvred by large corporations.

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Time now for a look at what has been happening in the wider

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With this week's countdown, here is Duncan Smith.

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It was flipping good start to the for MPs who won the `nnual

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Labour MP Stephen Pound protdly showed the trophy off late

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In fracking news, Greenpeacd open democracy site,

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right next to the Houses of Parliament.

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Campaigners objected to the government support

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A 1000 year tradition of prhnting British laws on vellum

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looks like it could be nearing an end.

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Vellum is made from calfskin and is said to last 5000

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The House of Lords says using archive paper instead

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It seems the Prime Minister doesn't just pop to the supermarket to get

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In fact, outgoing manager dhrector of Waitrose Mark Price has

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And at number one this week, or should

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that be at number 84, Labour MP and birthday boy

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Dennis Skinner, who told thd Commons where he spent his 84th birthday.

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On the picket line, today, with the doctors.

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Conservators MPs gave a heartfelt welcome to by ministers to give

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extra money to local authorhties in rural parts of England.

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Rural councils are to receive a ?93 million package

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as the government helps them to move away

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from Whitehall grants to more local funding.

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I propose to increase by more than fivefold the rural

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From 15.5 million this year to 18.5 million in 2016 to 2017

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With an extra 32.7 million available to rural councils

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through the transitional gr`nt that I have described,

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this proposal ensures there is no deterioration in government funding

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for rural areas compared to urban areas for the year

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How does he explain the manhfest injustice that the most deprived

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As things currently stand, the ten most

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deprived areas in England whll be 18 times worse off than the ten least

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I would also like to reflect that looking at the list of the statement

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of the call spending power, it doesn't look as if those

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areas are already very wealthy, in terms of the spending power,

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Further to the Scottish Nathonal representative, it is suggested that

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rural areas were richer than urban areas.

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Average areas -- earnings are higher in urban areas.

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There is a danger, if we continue to allow percentage rises,

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on a much higher base, on much poorer people,

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to go on, that we are going to actually reinforce the inequities

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Mid Sussex District Council which runs its affairs in a very

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orderly fashion, the more efficient and effective they are,

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the less money they get, that seems to be a completely

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There was, however, one very happy customer,

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who was clearly delighted with the extra money.

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I'm sure rural local government would be

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planting a big wet kiss on the cheek of the Secretary of State btt I m

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not entirely sure that his parliamentary...

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Whether it is not, the minister admitted he was grateful th`t

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Simon Hall was sitting a good long way away.

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Parliament is taking an extra recess for the next few days

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but do join Christina Cooper on Monday the 22nd February when MPs

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Until then, from me, Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.

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