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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament, | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
where, with the EU referendum campaign in full swing, | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
the head of the Bank of England comes under fire | :00:18. | :00:19. | |
As soon as you become political and you support one | :00:20. | :00:26. | |
side in the campaign, why should anyone now trust | :00:27. | :00:28. | |
you to set interest rates other than for the benefit of the government? | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
The only side we have supported is the pursuit of low, | :00:32. | :00:33. | |
stable and predictable inflation, which is our remit. | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
MPs begin an inquiry into British Home Stores, | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
and ask why it was sold it to a twice-bankrupt | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
If this deal had not been done with this particular buyer, | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
the BHS business would have gone into administration 12 or 13 months, | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
or whatever the period was, earlier than in fact it did. | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
And I'll be reporting on the race to become the next Lords Speaker. | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
The EU referendum campaign passed another milestone in the week. | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
There's now less than a month to go until the UK decides whether to stay | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
in or whether to leave the European Union. | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
At the start of the week, a Treasury forecast claiming that a vote | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
to leave would result in an economic shock was dismissed as rubbish | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
We all know that these forecasts are just rubbish being produced | :01:21. | :01:28. | |
by a government that is now obsessed with producing propaganda to try | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
and get its way in this vote, rather than to enlighten the public. | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
This analysis is an attempt to assist the British people | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
in making an informed decision, based on the likely consequences | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union. | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
Indeed, there have been many supporters of the Leave campaign | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
who have been prepared to acknowledge that leaving | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
the European Union would at the very least have a short-term impact | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
The honourable member for Harwich tries to rubbish this report | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
Well, if we were to leave the European Union, we would have | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
to negotiate in very short order trade relationships | :02:08. | :02:09. | |
with the rest of the world, including over 50 other countries. | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
Leaving aside the Treasury's notorious incompetence | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
at forecasting, would my right honourable friend, | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
for whom I have a lot of time, normally, not agree that this | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
document really does plumb new depths in Project Fear? | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
What the Government is trying to do is scare the public witless. | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
And if the consequences are so dire, why on earth did the Prime Minister | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
say on record that Britain could prosper perfectly | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
Well, while we're on the subject of predictions, earlier this month, | :02:38. | :02:47. | |
the Bank of England gave a stark warning about the economic | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
dangers of the UK leaving the European Union. | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
That angered Vote Leave campaigners, with one, Jacob Rees-Mogg, calling | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
on the Bank's governor, Mark Carney, to resign. | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
So there were some prickly exchanges when Dr Carney appeared in front | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
of the Treasury committee, of which Jacob Rees-Mogg | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
Don't you have a responsibility to be apolitical? We are apolitical. As | :03:08. | :03:23. | |
soon as you support one side, why should anyone trust you on interest | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
rates, that you will do anything other than act in favour of the | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
government? We have not supported any side, the only side we have | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
supported is the pursuit of low, and stable inflation, which is our | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
remit. By our actions, which may be inconvenient for you, but by our | :03:41. | :03:48. | |
actions, we have made it more likely that we will bring inflation back to | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
target, whatever the outcome of the referendum, sooner and more | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
sustainably. And that will be a better economic outcome. That is our | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
contribution for the British people. To suggest otherwise is to try and | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
undermine that. I do suggest otherwise. And so you try to | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
undermine that. I think you have become politically involved, when | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
quite clearly you said you would not. Jeremy Corbyn, an important | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
speech, and about whether his new economics is a good idea. Alas, you | :04:22. | :04:28. | |
weren't... I mean... Answer that at all? I don't think it's worth a | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
reply. Well, the row over the EU referendum | :04:32. | :04:32. | |
campaign spilled over into PMQs, where, with David Cameron | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
on his way to a G7 summit, it was down to George | :04:39. | :04:40. | |
Osborne to hold the fort. As is tradition if the Prime | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
Minister is away, Labour also fields a deputy, | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
so Angela Eagle took to the despatch box for the opposition, | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
and turned her fire on the divisions in the Conservative | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
Party over Europe. With 29 days to go until the most | :04:51. | :05:03. | |
important decision this country has faced in a generation, we have | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
before us a government in Bartekova as, split down the middle, at war | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
with itself. The stakes could not be higher, and yet this is a government | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
adrift at the mercy of its own rebel backbenchers, unable to get their | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
agenda through Parliament, instead of focusing on the national into, | :05:23. | :05:24. | |
they are focusing on their own narrow self-interest. What we need, | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
Mr Speaker, is a government which will do the best for Britain. What | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
we've got is a Conservative Party focused only on themselves. They are | :05:34. | :05:41. | |
like a Parliamentary party on day release, aren't they, when the | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
honourable lady is here. They know the member for Islington will be | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
back and it is four more years of hard labour! Mr Speaker, today we | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
are voting on a Queen's Speech which delivers economic security, protects | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
our national security, enhances life chances for the most is advantaged, | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
and it doesn't matter who stands at that dispatch box for the Labour | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Party these days, they are dismantling our defences, they are | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
wrecking our economy, they want to burden people with debt, and in | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
their own report, published this week, called Labour's Future, | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
surprisingly long, they say this, in their own report - they are becoming | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
increasingly irrelevant to the working people of Britain. | :06:29. | :06:30. | |
Now to the altogether more civilised realm | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
where it's time for peers to choose a new Lord Speaker. | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
The current incumbent, Baroness d'Souza, is standing down. | :06:40. | :06:40. | |
Gary Connor has been finding out who wants the job. | :06:41. | :06:48. | |
The question is that this bill be now read a first time. The contents | :06:49. | :06:59. | |
have it. Presiding in the Lords and representing the upper house at | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
Westminster and beyond. The job of Lord Speaker is becoming vacant. | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
Stepping down from the ?100,000 a year post at the end of the summer | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
term will be Baroness d'Souza. So let's had over there now to hear | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
from the candidates. Standing at the hustings hailed amid the splendours | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
of the robing room. If the Lib Dem Baroness garden wins, she would be | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
the third female Lord Speaker in a row. I would like to try to explain | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
to people outside what it is that we do, particularly with younger | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
people, which is my background, in education. That is something I would | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
like to do. I think to be the third woman in a row would be a fantastic | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
sign that women can hold down these posts. We've had two excellent women | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
Lord Speakers. The job has never gone to a man, and it has never gone | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
to the Conservatives. So could it be the Tories' turn? I am a passionate | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
believer in Parliament and in the House of Lords. I believe it has a | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
real important role in our constitution. The House of Commons, | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
where I have the privilege to sit for 40 years, is without doubt, has | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
supremacy, it is the supreme House politically more than we do an | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
enormous amount of important work here. And I want to be able to help | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
explain around the country just how important that work is. I was | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
chairman of two newspaper companies, and I was a journalist. So perhaps I | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
am equipped to actually carry out a campaign of explaining to the public | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
more what the House of Lords is about, because I think at times we | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
simply do not get the press that we deserve. I think sometimes we are | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
simply cast to one side and no-one takes any notice. And I think that | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
is unfair and unjust. Candidates were quizzed about the work of the | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
House and its public image. And about the tricky question of | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
membership, which currently stands at 800-plus. They agreed, it's | :09:10. | :09:17. | |
tricky. So, would the trio rank themselves as traditionalist or | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
champions of change, on a scale of one to ten? The first two declined | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
that offer. All I want on my tombstone is the word | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
parliamentarian. I don't think I want to ruin my chances totally by | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
putting myself anywhere on your particular grade. And you really | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
don't want to be in the middle lover but Lord Fowler was prepared to come | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
up with a figure. I will be thoroughly boring but not duck it, | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
and I will put in for five! Because I am a Conservative, with a small | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
sea, but Parliament does need to develop. Thank you very much, in | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
particular to our three distinguished speakers. So that is | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
how the contest is shaping up so far. He is will vote on the 8th of | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
June and the winning candidate will be announced in the Lords Chamber on | :10:15. | :10:16. | |
the 13th of June. Now let's take a look at some | :10:17. | :10:18. | |
other stories in brief. Scotland's First Minister, | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
Nicola Sturgeon, set out her priorities following this month's | :10:23. | :10:24. | |
Holyrood elections. She said the defining mission of her | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
government would be education. So, free university tuition | :10:27. | :10:28. | |
would continue in Scotland, but children needed to get | :10:29. | :10:30. | |
to that stage first. The target we are setting is clear. | :10:31. | :10:42. | |
A child born today in one of our most deprived communities must by | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
the time they leave school have the same chance of getting to university | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
as a child of the same ability from one of the most well-off parts of | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
our country. That is a fundamental part of what I mean by a fair and | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
equal society. this parliament would have | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
huge new responsibilities. We are not here simply to argue over | :11:01. | :11:09. | |
how best the government spends a sum of money. We now must decide how | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
best a government can raise money and how we best encourage the | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
economy to ensure those funds increase. The rewards and the risks | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
are great. It is clear to me that if the last Parliamentary session was | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
about deciding the shape and identity of our country, this next | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
Parliamentary session should be about setting the policy direction | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
and goals of our country for the coming years. | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
Labour's leader thought the SNP government | :11:36. | :11:36. | |
was taking a different line to SNP MPs at Westminster. | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
In a Parliament 400 miles from here, the SNP MPs have tabled an amendment | :11:42. | :11:49. | |
to the Queen's Speech. From opposition there, they call for an | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
end to austerity and for investment in public services. Meanwhile, SNP | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
members sit on the government mention is in this Parliament with | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
the power to act, the power to stop the cuts, to invest in education, | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
and they refuse to do so. -- on the government benches. | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
The boss of EDF Energy told MPs he didn't know when a final decision | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
on the ?18 billion Hinkley Point nuclear | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
The decision on the project in Somerset had been due this month, | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
but the company's trade union members have suggested it should be | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
The project is not on hold. At the moment we speak, the project | :12:21. | :12:33. | |
continues to prepare for the final decision, at which time we will | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
confirm the date of commission. Efforts to save jobs at Tata Steel | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
may entail cuts to the pension Paying for pensions is seen | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
as a major obstacle to Tata's sale The British Steel pension scheme has | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
around 130,000 members, with a deficit running into hundreds | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
of millions of pounds. One option is to base annual | :12:50. | :12:51. | |
increases on the Consumer Prices Index or CPI measure of inflation, | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
which is usually below the Retail Prices Index | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
measure currently used. But many MPs are worried | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
about the precedent that might set. What assurance can the secretary of | :13:01. | :13:23. | |
state give me that this will not be extended to other groups. Can this | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
be sensibly and safety ring fenced, because if not it is difficult? It | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
is the scheme's trustees who have come forward and asked us to look at | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
legislation. They believe it would lead to better outcomes for their | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
members. This is a product of the scheme trustees approaching us | :13:45. | :13:46. | |
The aim of UK airstrikes in Syria is not to "kill | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
as many Daesh as possible" but to "undermine their will | :13:51. | :13:52. | |
to fight", Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has told MPs. | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
He was answering questions from the Defence Committee. | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
It is estimated that more than 1,500 fighters allied to so-called | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
Islamic State have been killed in Iraq since December, | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
while the death toll among IS fighters in Syria is 22. | :14:06. | :14:15. | |
It is extremely misleading to look at statistics in that particular | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
way. We are only able to estimate enemy killed in action. These are | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
crude estimates because we do not have people on the ground and we | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
cannot investigate every single attack. The aim of these missions is | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
not to kill as many as possible, it is to degrade them by tackling their | :14:37. | :14:45. | |
leadership on occasion, but in the end to try and undermine their will | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
to fight by attacking their command and control, the infrastructure and | :14:51. | :14:51. | |
and control, the infrastructure and so on. | :14:52. | :14:53. | |
A health minister has accepted that the advice on healthy eating | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
has become very "muddied" in recent days. | :14:57. | :14:58. | |
The UK is facing a growing problem with obesity. | :14:59. | :15:00. | |
At the start of the week, a row broke out in the | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
scientific community after the authors of a controversial | :15:04. | :15:05. | |
advice on fatty foods and carbohydrates. | :15:06. | :15:12. | |
We used to be told that we should not eat salt, now we are told we | :15:13. | :15:19. | |
should. We used to be told we should not eat fatty foods, now we should. | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
We used to be told one glass of red wine a day was good for us, then we | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
were told we should have known, now we are being told we should have | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
two. Which of these items should exit our diet and which should | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
remain? My noble friend makes a very good point. He is as confused about | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
this as most of us are in this house. It will be an important part | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
of the obesity strategy when it is announced in the summer that we | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
address this very clearly. All the evidence from over 600 separate | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
studies reinforces the advice that is already out there, but it has | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
indeed been very muddied over the last five days. | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
It's been a week for first speeches in both the Commons and the Lords. | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
On Monday, Labour's Gill Furniss made her maiden speech. | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
The new MP for Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough had | :16:15. | :16:16. | |
particular reason to pay tribute to her predecessor, | :16:17. | :16:18. | |
I am doubly proud to say that not only was he a dedicated and | :16:19. | :16:28. | |
conscientious Labour MP, but as many colleagues will know he was also my | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
husband. He served in this house for less than a year before his death, | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
but in that time he made his mark. He spoke powerfully against tax | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
credits, knowing the suffering it would cause the people he | :16:42. | :16:42. | |
would cause the people he represented. | :16:43. | :16:43. | |
Next day, the new MP for Ogmore made his maiden and spoke | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
about one of his predecessors, Sir Raymond Powell. | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
We are both playing in butchery. So Raymond master butcher and butcher' | :16:50. | :16:59. | |
assistant. I am not sure if my skills with a knife will to use in | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
this has, that I am told by members it is a useful skill to have. I | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
And on Wednesday, the Bishop of Newcastle debuted - she spoke | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
One of those pictures was Mrs Boyd who started debating society in our | :17:11. | :17:20. | |
school. She had a passion for the art of debating and wanted us to | :17:21. | :17:28. | |
catch that passion. Her sister, the noble Baroness the late Lady Burke, | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
had just be introduced into the Lords as one of those pioneering, | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
early women life peers. Through good offices she brought our little | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
debating theme to this place to inspire us by witnessing debating at | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
its best. How could I have imagined as a 16-year-old girl up in that | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
gallery that one day I would find myself making a maiden speech in | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
Now off to the committee corridor, where MPs have begun a detailed | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
inquiry into the collapse of British Home Stores. | :18:03. | :18:04. | |
BHS had debts of ?1.25 billion when it went | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
It also had a pensions deficit of ?571 million. | :18:07. | :18:16. | |
In 2000, BHS was bought by the retail billionaire Sir Philip Green, | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
who made it part of the Arcadia Group. | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
Last year he sold it to "Retail Acquisitions", | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
a group whose leader, Dominic Chappell, had been declared | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
I am confident the trustees did everything they could within the | :18:31. | :18:45. | |
regulatory framework to ask questions of the seller and buyer to | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
try and understand the situation. They also made very clear to the | :18:49. | :18:51. | |
They also made very clear to the seller and buyer the scale. | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
The session then quizzed a representative from the City firm | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
Goldman Sachs, which gave advice on the sale of BHS to | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
In a the situation, Goldman Sachs are the premier advisers in | :19:03. | :19:12. | |
transactions, it has presented to its client, he has got no experience | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
in the industry and has a history of being bankrupt three times, your | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
advice is to carry on? Goldman Sachs name means a lot. In a similar | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
situation would you not be waving a red flag? Not your one. Would you | :19:32. | :19:40. | |
not be waving a red flag to say this is a walking disaster, do not touch | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
it? Goldman Sachs says do not go in. In the early stage of a transaction | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
with many months to follow before the deal could hypothetically close, | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
we would identify the risk and save these risks need to be assessed. | :19:56. | :19:56. | |
A legal adviser on the sale said he had had | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
conversations with a legal firm, Olswang, that represented | :20:01. | :20:02. | |
In the conversation I had I learned that the firm carried out a | :20:03. | :20:18. | |
thorough, detailed due diligence process on their customer and that | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
nothing in what they had done had given rise to any concerns in | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
relation to impropriety and that their client had been open | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
throughout, and that if they had had any sense there might be any | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
impropriety there, it is not something they would go anywhere | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
near. We had reached the stage when the board as a whole had decided | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
that either BHS was going to have to go into insolvency, or alternatively | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
it should be sold. If we could find a buyer, that was the most desirable | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
outcome because it would protect the jobs and it would protect the | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
position of the business as a going concern. What we are discussing in | :21:05. | :21:12. | |
my view, for what it is worth, the most fundamental point in the story | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
which is if this deal had not been done with this particular buyer, the | :21:17. | :21:22. | |
BHS business would have gone into administration 12 or 13 months | :21:23. | :21:23. | |
into administration 12 or 13 months earlier than in fact it did. | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
And that committee will be hearing from all sides of the argument | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
Time for a look now at what's been happening | :21:32. | :21:34. | |
Here's Alex Partridge with our countdown. | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
More than 50 words and phrases have been ruled unacceptable when used | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
Unparliamentary language includes "bumbling idiot", "rentagob", | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
No pussyfooting around at Foreign Office Questions. | :21:51. | :21:58. | |
Philip Hammond was asked whether the departmental moggy | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
The Foreign Secretary said that Palmerston the cat | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
A relic believed to come from Saint Thomas Becket was | :22:06. | :22:12. | |
in Westminster this week, centuries after he was martyred in Canterbury. | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
The elbow fragment was on display at St Margaret's, | :22:17. | :22:18. | |
the parish church of the House of Commons. | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
There could be a new Lord Lucan in the House of Lords. | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
A death certificate was finally issued for the absent peer | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
in February, 42 years after he went missing. | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
Now, his son, George Bingham, has added his name to the | :22:34. | :22:36. | |
register of hereditary peers, allowing him to stand for the | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
Chamber next time there is a vacancy. | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
And backbench MPs got to put their name | :22:44. | :22:45. | |
into the hat to win the chance to introduce a | :22:46. | :22:47. | |
Top of the list was the SNP's John Nicholson, followed | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
by Conservatives Bob Blackman and Alec Shelbrooke. | :22:53. | :23:01. | |
We're talking about 1975, the FIRST time that Britain went | :23:02. | :23:13. | |
Angela Rippon was reporting on the story then, and she has been | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
looking back at that campaign for a special night | :23:19. | :23:20. | |
She told us there are striking similarities | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
In 1975, I was reading the news and being a reporter and I remember | :23:26. | :23:39. | |
going out and talking to people on the streets. What was extraordinary | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
was they did not have any better idea than than many people have now | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
about the main issues and how they will vote. I remember Margaret | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
Thatcher's jumper, the one with the flags of the nine nations at that | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
time in the European economic community. I thought, where did she | :23:59. | :24:06. | |
get that awful sweater? We want a jumper parade. What I find quite | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
spooky is that 1975 and 2016 are almost interchangeable. It is quite | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
extraordinary that we had virtually exactly the same main topics and | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
virtually the same reaction coming from the general public. First of | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
all you had the party is split down the middle, that is what you have | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
got now with politicians arguing against each other from the same | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
party, those who wanted in and those who wanted out. No change there. And | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
similarly with the general public. Unless they were polarised into | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
coming out or staying in, there was that area in the middle where people | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
were still confused and that is the word. They are now. There are so | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
many arguments that you can say is a perfectly valid argument as to why | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
we can come out, and then you hear perfectly died arguments as to why | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
we should stay in. People then as now were left thinking I am not sure | :25:08. | :25:16. | |
what to do. Frankly, apart from in 1975 food was a very big issue in | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
the campaign, and the price of food because people were worried about | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
the Common agricultural policy, no food does not feature at all. What | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
features is immigration, which did not turn after tour in 1975. | :25:32. | :25:33. | |
And 75: Not Out will be shown on BBC Parliament at 7pm | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
MPs and peers have left Westminster for their Whitsun recess. | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
So we'll be back when they return on Monday June 6th. | :25:45. | :25:48. |