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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament,

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where, with the EU referendum campaign in full swing,

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the head of the Bank of England comes under fire

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As soon as you become political and you support one

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side in the campaign, why should anyone now trust

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you to set interest rates other than for the benefit of the government?

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The only side we have supported is the pursuit of low,

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stable and predictable inflation, which is our remit.

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MPs begin an inquiry into British Home Stores,

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and ask why it was sold it to a twice-bankrupt

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If this deal had not been done with this particular buyer,

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the BHS business would have gone into administration 12 or 13 months,

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or whatever the period was, earlier than in fact it did.

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And I'll be reporting on the race to become the next Lords Speaker.

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The EU referendum campaign passed another milestone in the week.

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There's now less than a month to go until the UK decides whether to stay

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in or whether to leave the European Union.

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At the start of the week, a Treasury forecast claiming that a vote

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to leave would result in an economic shock was dismissed as rubbish

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We all know that these forecasts are just rubbish being produced

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by a government that is now obsessed with producing propaganda to try

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and get its way in this vote, rather than to enlighten the public.

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This analysis is an attempt to assist the British people

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in making an informed decision, based on the likely consequences

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of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union.

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Indeed, there have been many supporters of the Leave campaign

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who have been prepared to acknowledge that leaving

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the European Union would at the very least have a short-term impact

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The honourable member for Harwich tries to rubbish this report

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Well, if we were to leave the European Union, we would have

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to negotiate in very short order trade relationships

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with the rest of the world, including over 50 other countries.

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Leaving aside the Treasury's notorious incompetence

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at forecasting, would my right honourable friend,

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for whom I have a lot of time, normally, not agree that this

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document really does plumb new depths in Project Fear?

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What the Government is trying to do is scare the public witless.

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And if the consequences are so dire, why on earth did the Prime Minister

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say on record that Britain could prosper perfectly

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Well, while we're on the subject of predictions, earlier this month,

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the Bank of England gave a stark warning about the economic

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dangers of the UK leaving the European Union.

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That angered Vote Leave campaigners, with one, Jacob Rees-Mogg, calling

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on the Bank's governor, Mark Carney, to resign.

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So there were some prickly exchanges when Dr Carney appeared in front

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of the Treasury committee, of which Jacob Rees-Mogg

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Don't you have a responsibility to be apolitical? We are apolitical. As

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soon as you support one side, why should anyone trust you on interest

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rates, that you will do anything other than act in favour of the

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government? We have not supported any side, the only side we have

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supported is the pursuit of low, and stable inflation, which is our

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remit. By our actions, which may be inconvenient for you, but by our

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actions, we have made it more likely that we will bring inflation back to

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target, whatever the outcome of the referendum, sooner and more

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sustainably. And that will be a better economic outcome. That is our

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contribution for the British people. To suggest otherwise is to try and

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undermine that. I do suggest otherwise. And so you try to

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undermine that. I think you have become politically involved, when

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quite clearly you said you would not. Jeremy Corbyn, an important

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speech, and about whether his new economics is a good idea. Alas, you

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weren't... I mean... Answer that at all? I don't think it's worth a

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reply. Well, the row over the EU referendum

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campaign spilled over into PMQs, where, with David Cameron

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on his way to a G7 summit, it was down to George

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Osborne to hold the fort. As is tradition if the Prime

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Minister is away, Labour also fields a deputy,

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so Angela Eagle took to the despatch box for the opposition,

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and turned her fire on the divisions in the Conservative

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Party over Europe. With 29 days to go until the most

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important decision this country has faced in a generation, we have

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before us a government in Bartekova as, split down the middle, at war

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with itself. The stakes could not be higher, and yet this is a government

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adrift at the mercy of its own rebel backbenchers, unable to get their

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agenda through Parliament, instead of focusing on the national into,

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they are focusing on their own narrow self-interest. What we need,

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Mr Speaker, is a government which will do the best for Britain. What

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we've got is a Conservative Party focused only on themselves. They are

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like a Parliamentary party on day release, aren't they, when the

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honourable lady is here. They know the member for Islington will be

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back and it is four more years of hard labour! Mr Speaker, today we

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are voting on a Queen's Speech which delivers economic security, protects

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our national security, enhances life chances for the most is advantaged,

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and it doesn't matter who stands at that dispatch box for the Labour

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Party these days, they are dismantling our defences, they are

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wrecking our economy, they want to burden people with debt, and in

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their own report, published this week, called Labour's Future,

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surprisingly long, they say this, in their own report - they are becoming

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increasingly irrelevant to the working people of Britain.

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Now to the altogether more civilised realm

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where it's time for peers to choose a new Lord Speaker.

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The current incumbent, Baroness d'Souza, is standing down.

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Gary Connor has been finding out who wants the job.

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The question is that this bill be now read a first time. The contents

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have it. Presiding in the Lords and representing the upper house at

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Westminster and beyond. The job of Lord Speaker is becoming vacant.

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Stepping down from the ?100,000 a year post at the end of the summer

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term will be Baroness d'Souza. So let's had over there now to hear

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from the candidates. Standing at the hustings hailed amid the splendours

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of the robing room. If the Lib Dem Baroness garden wins, she would be

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the third female Lord Speaker in a row. I would like to try to explain

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to people outside what it is that we do, particularly with younger

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people, which is my background, in education. That is something I would

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like to do. I think to be the third woman in a row would be a fantastic

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sign that women can hold down these posts. We've had two excellent women

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Lord Speakers. The job has never gone to a man, and it has never gone

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to the Conservatives. So could it be the Tories' turn? I am a passionate

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believer in Parliament and in the House of Lords. I believe it has a

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real important role in our constitution. The House of Commons,

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where I have the privilege to sit for 40 years, is without doubt, has

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supremacy, it is the supreme House politically more than we do an

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enormous amount of important work here. And I want to be able to help

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explain around the country just how important that work is. I was

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chairman of two newspaper companies, and I was a journalist. So perhaps I

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am equipped to actually carry out a campaign of explaining to the public

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more what the House of Lords is about, because I think at times we

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simply do not get the press that we deserve. I think sometimes we are

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simply cast to one side and no-one takes any notice. And I think that

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is unfair and unjust. Candidates were quizzed about the work of the

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House and its public image. And about the tricky question of

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membership, which currently stands at 800-plus. They agreed, it's

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tricky. So, would the trio rank themselves as traditionalist or

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champions of change, on a scale of one to ten? The first two declined

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that offer. All I want on my tombstone is the word

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parliamentarian. I don't think I want to ruin my chances totally by

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putting myself anywhere on your particular grade. And you really

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don't want to be in the middle lover but Lord Fowler was prepared to come

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up with a figure. I will be thoroughly boring but not duck it,

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and I will put in for five! Because I am a Conservative, with a small

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sea, but Parliament does need to develop. Thank you very much, in

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particular to our three distinguished speakers. So that is

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how the contest is shaping up so far. He is will vote on the 8th of

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June and the winning candidate will be announced in the Lords Chamber on

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the 13th of June. Now let's take a look at some

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other stories in brief. Scotland's First Minister,

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Nicola Sturgeon, set out her priorities following this month's

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Holyrood elections. She said the defining mission of her

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government would be education. So, free university tuition

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would continue in Scotland, but children needed to get

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to that stage first. The target we are setting is clear.

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A child born today in one of our most deprived communities must by

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the time they leave school have the same chance of getting to university

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as a child of the same ability from one of the most well-off parts of

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our country. That is a fundamental part of what I mean by a fair and

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equal society. this parliament would have

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huge new responsibilities. We are not here simply to argue over

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how best the government spends a sum of money. We now must decide how

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best a government can raise money and how we best encourage the

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economy to ensure those funds increase. The rewards and the risks

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are great. It is clear to me that if the last Parliamentary session was

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about deciding the shape and identity of our country, this next

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Parliamentary session should be about setting the policy direction

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and goals of our country for the coming years.

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Labour's leader thought the SNP government

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was taking a different line to SNP MPs at Westminster.

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In a Parliament 400 miles from here, the SNP MPs have tabled an amendment

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to the Queen's Speech. From opposition there, they call for an

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end to austerity and for investment in public services. Meanwhile, SNP

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members sit on the government mention is in this Parliament with

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the power to act, the power to stop the cuts, to invest in education,

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and they refuse to do so. -- on the government benches.

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The boss of EDF Energy told MPs he didn't know when a final decision

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on the ?18 billion Hinkley Point nuclear

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The decision on the project in Somerset had been due this month,

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but the company's trade union members have suggested it should be

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The project is not on hold. At the moment we speak, the project

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continues to prepare for the final decision, at which time we will

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confirm the date of commission. Efforts to save jobs at Tata Steel

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may entail cuts to the pension Paying for pensions is seen

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as a major obstacle to Tata's sale The British Steel pension scheme has

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around 130,000 members, with a deficit running into hundreds

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of millions of pounds. One option is to base annual

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increases on the Consumer Prices Index or CPI measure of inflation,

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which is usually below the Retail Prices Index

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measure currently used. But many MPs are worried

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about the precedent that might set. What assurance can the secretary of

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state give me that this will not be extended to other groups. Can this

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be sensibly and safety ring fenced, because if not it is difficult? It

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is the scheme's trustees who have come forward and asked us to look at

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legislation. They believe it would lead to better outcomes for their

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members. This is a product of the scheme trustees approaching us

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The aim of UK airstrikes in Syria is not to "kill

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as many Daesh as possible" but to "undermine their will

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to fight", Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has told MPs.

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He was answering questions from the Defence Committee.

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It is estimated that more than 1,500 fighters allied to so-called

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Islamic State have been killed in Iraq since December,

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while the death toll among IS fighters in Syria is 22.

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It is extremely misleading to look at statistics in that particular

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way. We are only able to estimate enemy killed in action. These are

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crude estimates because we do not have people on the ground and we

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cannot investigate every single attack. The aim of these missions is

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not to kill as many as possible, it is to degrade them by tackling their

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leadership on occasion, but in the end to try and undermine their will

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to fight by attacking their command and control, the infrastructure and

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and control, the infrastructure and so on.

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A health minister has accepted that the advice on healthy eating

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has become very "muddied" in recent days.

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The UK is facing a growing problem with obesity.

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At the start of the week, a row broke out in the

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scientific community after the authors of a controversial

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advice on fatty foods and carbohydrates.

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We used to be told that we should not eat salt, now we are told we

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should. We used to be told we should not eat fatty foods, now we should.

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We used to be told one glass of red wine a day was good for us, then we

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were told we should have known, now we are being told we should have

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two. Which of these items should exit our diet and which should

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remain? My noble friend makes a very good point. He is as confused about

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this as most of us are in this house. It will be an important part

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of the obesity strategy when it is announced in the summer that we

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address this very clearly. All the evidence from over 600 separate

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studies reinforces the advice that is already out there, but it has

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indeed been very muddied over the last five days.

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It's been a week for first speeches in both the Commons and the Lords.

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On Monday, Labour's Gill Furniss made her maiden speech.

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The new MP for Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough had

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particular reason to pay tribute to her predecessor,

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I am doubly proud to say that not only was he a dedicated and

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conscientious Labour MP, but as many colleagues will know he was also my

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husband. He served in this house for less than a year before his death,

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but in that time he made his mark. He spoke powerfully against tax

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credits, knowing the suffering it would cause the people he

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would cause the people he represented.

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Next day, the new MP for Ogmore made his maiden and spoke

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about one of his predecessors, Sir Raymond Powell.

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We are both playing in butchery. So Raymond master butcher and butcher'

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assistant. I am not sure if my skills with a knife will to use in

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this has, that I am told by members it is a useful skill to have. I

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And on Wednesday, the Bishop of Newcastle debuted - she spoke

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One of those pictures was Mrs Boyd who started debating society in our

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school. She had a passion for the art of debating and wanted us to

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catch that passion. Her sister, the noble Baroness the late Lady Burke,

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had just be introduced into the Lords as one of those pioneering,

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early women life peers. Through good offices she brought our little

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debating theme to this place to inspire us by witnessing debating at

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its best. How could I have imagined as a 16-year-old girl up in that

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gallery that one day I would find myself making a maiden speech in

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Now off to the committee corridor, where MPs have begun a detailed

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inquiry into the collapse of British Home Stores.

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BHS had debts of ?1.25 billion when it went

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It also had a pensions deficit of ?571 million.

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In 2000, BHS was bought by the retail billionaire Sir Philip Green,

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who made it part of the Arcadia Group.

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Last year he sold it to "Retail Acquisitions",

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a group whose leader, Dominic Chappell, had been declared

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I am confident the trustees did everything they could within the

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regulatory framework to ask questions of the seller and buyer to

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try and understand the situation. They also made very clear to the

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They also made very clear to the seller and buyer the scale.

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The session then quizzed a representative from the City firm

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Goldman Sachs, which gave advice on the sale of BHS to

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In a the situation, Goldman Sachs are the premier advisers in

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transactions, it has presented to its client, he has got no experience

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in the industry and has a history of being bankrupt three times, your

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advice is to carry on? Goldman Sachs name means a lot. In a similar

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situation would you not be waving a red flag? Not your one. Would you

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not be waving a red flag to say this is a walking disaster, do not touch

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it? Goldman Sachs says do not go in. In the early stage of a transaction

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with many months to follow before the deal could hypothetically close,

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we would identify the risk and save these risks need to be assessed.

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A legal adviser on the sale said he had had

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conversations with a legal firm, Olswang, that represented

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In the conversation I had I learned that the firm carried out a

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thorough, detailed due diligence process on their customer and that

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nothing in what they had done had given rise to any concerns in

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relation to impropriety and that their client had been open

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throughout, and that if they had had any sense there might be any

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impropriety there, it is not something they would go anywhere

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near. We had reached the stage when the board as a whole had decided

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that either BHS was going to have to go into insolvency, or alternatively

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it should be sold. If we could find a buyer, that was the most desirable

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outcome because it would protect the jobs and it would protect the

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position of the business as a going concern. What we are discussing in

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my view, for what it is worth, the most fundamental point in the story

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which is if this deal had not been done with this particular buyer, the

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BHS business would have gone into administration 12 or 13 months

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into administration 12 or 13 months earlier than in fact it did.

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And that committee will be hearing from all sides of the argument

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Time for a look now at what's been happening

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Here's Alex Partridge with our countdown.

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More than 50 words and phrases have been ruled unacceptable when used

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Unparliamentary language includes "bumbling idiot", "rentagob",

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No pussyfooting around at Foreign Office Questions.

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Philip Hammond was asked whether the departmental moggy

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The Foreign Secretary said that Palmerston the cat

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A relic believed to come from Saint Thomas Becket was

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in Westminster this week, centuries after he was martyred in Canterbury.

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The elbow fragment was on display at St Margaret's,

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the parish church of the House of Commons.

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There could be a new Lord Lucan in the House of Lords.

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A death certificate was finally issued for the absent peer

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in February, 42 years after he went missing.

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Now, his son, George Bingham, has added his name to the

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register of hereditary peers, allowing him to stand for the

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Chamber next time there is a vacancy.

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And backbench MPs got to put their name

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into the hat to win the chance to introduce a

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Top of the list was the SNP's John Nicholson, followed

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by Conservatives Bob Blackman and Alec Shelbrooke.

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We're talking about 1975, the FIRST time that Britain went

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Angela Rippon was reporting on the story then, and she has been

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looking back at that campaign for a special night

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She told us there are striking similarities

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In 1975, I was reading the news and being a reporter and I remember

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going out and talking to people on the streets. What was extraordinary

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was they did not have any better idea than than many people have now

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about the main issues and how they will vote. I remember Margaret

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Thatcher's jumper, the one with the flags of the nine nations at that

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time in the European economic community. I thought, where did she

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get that awful sweater? We want a jumper parade. What I find quite

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spooky is that 1975 and 2016 are almost interchangeable. It is quite

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extraordinary that we had virtually exactly the same main topics and

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virtually the same reaction coming from the general public. First of

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all you had the party is split down the middle, that is what you have

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got now with politicians arguing against each other from the same

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party, those who wanted in and those who wanted out. No change there. And

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similarly with the general public. Unless they were polarised into

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coming out or staying in, there was that area in the middle where people

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were still confused and that is the word. They are now. There are so

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many arguments that you can say is a perfectly valid argument as to why

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we can come out, and then you hear perfectly died arguments as to why

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we should stay in. People then as now were left thinking I am not sure

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what to do. Frankly, apart from in 1975 food was a very big issue in

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the campaign, and the price of food because people were worried about

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the Common agricultural policy, no food does not feature at all. What

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features is immigration, which did not turn after tour in 1975.

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And 75: Not Out will be shown on BBC Parliament at 7pm

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MPs and peers have left Westminster for their Whitsun recess.

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So we'll be back when they return on Monday June 6th.

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