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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament.

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The Chancellor says the economy has to be prepared for Brexit.

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We have also to rise to the challenge of getting

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ourselves match fit to seize the opportunities that

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this country will have after we complete that process.

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It was Philip Hammond's first Autumn Statement,

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but he won't be doing any more - he's abolished them.

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We say farewell to the Autumn Statement.

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It was a great shop window for the Chancellor, let's be honest.

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You know, if you are a Chancellor, most

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of the time, if you're doing your job properly, you are not seen.

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You're behind the scenes, you're actually only emerging, submarine

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like, like perhaps George Osborne, when you are needed.

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And will we really need to show our passports before we can

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The last census showed us that nine and a half million people in this

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For many years, there has been a concern

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But first, Hammond Builds For Brexit summed up

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the reaction of the financial experts to this Chancellor's first

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and, as it turned out, last Autumn Statement.

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Philip Hammond said that Britain would need to borrow ?122 billion

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more than expected over the next five years to cope

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His speech followed a report from the Office for Budget

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Responsibility that scaled down its forecast for UK economic

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Anticipation of Mr Hammond's speech had been plentiful as the Chancellor

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took the familiar route on Wednesday from 11 Downing Street

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Today's OPR forecast is for growth to be 2.1% in

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In 2017, OBR forecast growth to slow to 1.4%,

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which they attributed to lower investment and a weaker

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consumer demand, driven respectively by greater uncertainty and by higher

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inflation - resulting from sterling depreciation.

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And that is slower, of course, then we would wish.

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So today I can announce that the national

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living wage will increase from ?7.20 to ?7.50 in April next year.

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That is a pay rise worth over ?500 a year to a full time worker.

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There was a new way to improve productivity.

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I can announce that we are forming a new national productivity

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investment fund of ?23 billion to be spent on innovation and

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infrastructure over the next five years.

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We will focus Government infrastructure investment to unlock

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land for housing with a new ?2.3 billion housing infrastructure fund

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to deliver infrastructure for up to 100,000 new homes in areas of high

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The Shadow Chancellor said the Statement had failed to help

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Mr Speaker, today's statement places on the record the

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abject failure of the last six wasted years and offers no hope for

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OBR tells us on page 19, Mr Speaker, this ?58

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billion of the worsening of the public finances is due

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Isn't this a salutary warning to us about the decisions we

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And isn't it a very strong argument for us remaining as close

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as possible to our largest trading area, the single market, and inside,

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There is of course going to be a period of

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uncertainty as we go through the process of exiting

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That has, as OBR has identified, had a dampening effect

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We have also to rise to the challenge of getting

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ourselves match fit to seize the opportunities that this country

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will have after we complete that process

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and I would urge him to think about that longer term challenge,

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The Chancellor did give us plenty of information today,

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but with no more than a glib reference to being match

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fit at the beginning and a bit of deflection.

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Very little actually on

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the elephant in the room, which is Brexit.

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It is not as if the Treasury don't know what the consequences

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Their own assessment tells us that tax yields could be down 66

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The Chancellor's Autumn Statement suggests yet more public borrowing,

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with total public debt due to increase to ?1.6 trillion in the New

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Year and ?1.9 trillion by 2020, four times what it was in 2005.

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Rather than a reflection on Brexit, is the

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accumulation of these unsustainable levels

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the failure of his predecessor to match his

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work with deeds and get a

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Disappointingly, this Chancellor has joined his

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predecessor in failing to

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mention the words climate change even just once anywhere in this

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That in the year that is the hottest on record, set to be the

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hottest on record and when parts of the country are under floodwater.

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The innovation of the condition of working people has always been a

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priority of the Conservative Party and in that vein, I particularly

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welcome the fiscal changes in the Autumn Statement,

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particularly fuel duty, tax allowances and the

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national living wage, which campaigned for her many years.

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There is actually not one single mention

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in the 72 page Autumn Statement document of the words

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The Chancellor cannot ignore the fact

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that our health and social care services are in crisis, facing

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The biggest surprise of the day has come

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This is my first Autumn Statement as Chancellor.

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After careful consideration and detailed

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discussion with the Prime Minister, I have decided that it will also be

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Mr Speaker, I am abolishing the Autumn Statement.

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No other major economy makes

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hundreds of tax changes twice a year and neither should we.

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The spring budget in a few months will be the

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Starting in Autumn 2017, Britain will have an

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autumn budget announcing tax changes well in advance

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From 2018, there will be a spring statement responding to the

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May I congratulate the Chancellor on averting to the extremely

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sensible practice of only having one budget a year, which

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Gordon Brown abandoned in order to try to buy votes twice

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So a few moments there from Wednesday's Autumn

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I am joined in the studio now by Paul Wall, who's the executive

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This was a bit of a rabbit out of the old hat.

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No-one anticipated that the Chancellor would actually

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What do you think is the thinking behind this?

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Well, I think it's been said for a long time, think tanks like

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the IFS and lots of others have for many years said it makes much

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more sense if you are going to anticipate the next year 's tax year

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to do it actually a few months in advance.

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Maybe in November, give yourself time and business time to

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set out what they are going to do for tax changes

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year, which starts at the end of March.

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And also, legally, they do need to have an update on other

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things, sort of a general health check on the economy.

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So that is also another event in the year and

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they are going to start doing that in the spring.

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Of course, budgets, parliamentary budget, date back to

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the year dot, but the Autumn Statement

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What is the actual history of the Autumn

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Well, Ken Clarke had the smart idea of actually making sure

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that this was all going to happen in the autumn.

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He thought that actually, yeah, there is a logic to

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Let's make sure that we get a run into the tax year.

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He had something called a Summer Statement,

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which was the statutory stuff you need to do to update Parliament.

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Then Gordon Brown decided, oh, let's tear all that up.

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Let's go back to having a normal spring budget,

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a traditional budget and then we will turn the Autumn

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Statement into a thing called the prebudget report.

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That was a very Gordon Brown device, because,

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effectively, it was two budgets a year.

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It wasn't just a normal update on what the figures were, it was

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And now of course, we saw Kenneth Clarke

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there referring to Gordon Brown rather enjoying buying votes twice

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for the convenience of Government popularity?

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Well, it was a great shop window for the Chancellor, let's be honest.

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You know, if you're a Chancellor, most

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of the time if you're doing your job properly, you are not seen.

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You are actually only emerging, submarine like, like

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perhaps George Osborne, when you are needed.

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To reassure the markets or

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to send out a strong signal to business and say

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Gordon Brown could not resist the lure of the limelight and

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he was deeply, deeply political as the Chancellor.

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He wanted to make sure he had his fair share of

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airtime when Tony Blair was in power.

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bit of an archaic point, but the Budget is actually replied to not

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buy the Shadow Chancellor, but by the opposition leader.

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So the Autumn Statement actually gave the Shadow

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Chancellor that extra little bit of a platform.

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One year ago, John MacDonald used it to wave about

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It does actually give the Shadow Chancellor

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It does and the Shadow Chancellor is often,

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you know, even less seen than

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So they are desperate to get some sort of impact

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It was traditionally, the way in which it

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was founded, it was that he answered in the House of Commons and

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therefore he got his own chance to set out his store.

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Whereas, normally it is the Leader of the Opposition

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who applies to the Budget and that actually can get leaders of the

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opposition into trouble, because they are not as au

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fait with the figures, let's be honest, as their

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So that is why it is actually pretty good grounding

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They have to get across all the figures,

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just as they would for Prime Minister's Questions.

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The Prime Minister, once they become Prime

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Minister, doesn't have to do any of this.

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Now the Budget going out to

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the autumn, does that reaches the prospect of a pre-election

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giveaway just before a general election,

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which presumably will remain in the spring?

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Well, that is some of the thinking behind it.

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Because we are going to have two budgets next

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year, we are not quite whether or not there

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does mean there will be a

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There is certainly that temptation for every

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Chancellor and every Prime Minister, will we go for some very nice crowd

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Just on the eve of an election in the summer.

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Philip Hammond's performance on Wednesday,

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relaxed performer at the Commons dispatch box.

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Yes, I thought it was actually quite fresh in, because he

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He wasn't like George Osborne at all.

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There weren't gags masquerading as policy.

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He had the odd gag, that was fine, but most

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And I think the public actually quite like

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The Alistair Darling period wasn't actually unsuccessful.

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People forget he dealt with the financial

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crisis at the time and he had a steady hand on the tiller.

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I think that's the whole raison d'etre of Philip Hammond.

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Paul Wall, thanks very much for joining us

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And now a look at some of the other stories around Parliament

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The demands that Britain's EU departure will

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place on Whitehall has been looked at by a committee of MPs.

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A leaked memo from a consultancy firm said an

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extra 30,000 civil servants might be needed

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to deliver a Brexit, but a

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former Cabinet Secretary had an upbeat assessment.

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I think this is a terrific opportunity for the civil service

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and I haven't often, since I retired, wanted

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Because I think that this is a very exciting time and I think

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there's an opportunity to rise to it and I am confident that on past form

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The task facing the government and facing the

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We shall have to run domestically policies that have previously been

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This man's not impressed by Britain's Foreign Secretary.

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The German MEP Manfred Weber called Boris Johnson provocative

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and arrogant after meeting both him and David Davis,

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Clearly a problem to be put to the Prime Minister.

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The Brexit secretary and the Foreign Secretary

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are described by a senior German politician as having no idea

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The Times reports today that EU ambassadors think the Foreign

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Secretary's more colourful outbursts are damaging our

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When is the Prime Minister going to get a grip on her ministers

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and when is she going to demonstrate to the country,

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and to our EU colleagues, that she has a coherent,

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We will be leaving the European Union, and we will be

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triggering Article 50 by

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the end of March next year and that is when the formal

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Tasers, sometimes called electro-shock weapons.

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Are they a suitable way of controlling potentially violent

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incidents when police are called to mental health units?

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Will the government look at the possibility that better

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training for police officers in how to deal with people suffering

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from mental health illness might alleviate the need

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for them ever to use Tasers, because they might

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In situations in the community where someone, others

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is becoming very violent, it is appropriate to call the police

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and inappropriate to expect ambulance and other staff to attempt

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to use any form of restraint because the police are trained

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and are therefore safer than people using restraint who are not

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If somebody experiences behaviour that is both a danger

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including staff within these mental health settings,

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Of course these situations are rare, there may be no other option

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than for police restraint to be used.

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Soldiering on despite mounting setbacks.

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Professor Alexis Jay's troubled independent inquiry into historic

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allegations of child sex abuse keeps going, despite senior

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Labour says there's a crisis of credibility.

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Why is it that nobody from the government sought

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to proactively come to this house and provide reassurance

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about the serious events that have unfolded over the last week as this

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enquiry has unravelled in front of our eyes.

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The Honourable Lady is really quite wrong in asserting that there

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is some sort of smoke screen and hiding behind independence.

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It's absolutely essential that this enquiry is an independent enquiry.

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The terms of reference of this enquiry were shaped with the voices

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Military medals, honouring acts of valour and heroism.

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But what happens when people wear medals they're not entitled to wear?

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The Government supports a backbencher's Bill

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I think what we really concerned about here are people who

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go strutting around, wearing decorations which they were not

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So-called Walter Mittys, parading themselves at remembrance

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service parades and elsewhere, sporting medals they have not

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earned, is not only insulting to undermines

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earned, is not only insulting but it undermines those veterans

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We firmly believe that anyone impersonating a veteran

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by wearing medals that they have not earned should face legal sanctions.

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Someone might have a mental health issue but they might not be suitable

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The fact they have simply worn medals that were not their

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medals to wear, even if no gain was made could mean

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to a custodial sentence, and that, in my opinion,

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And is it time to bring in electronic voting in Parliament?

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MPs say they prefer the time-honoured walk

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through the voting lobbies every time there's a vote,

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During the higher education Bill report on Monday we spent nearly an

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hour trooping through division lobbies. Has there ever been a

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calculation of the cost to the taxpayer of that dead time in terms

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of staff security. This system provides ministers an opportunity to

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nobble ministers when they arbour rest of their heavies and their spin

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doctors. Four members of the opposition it gives an opportunity

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for team building. Will he do everything he can to keep this at

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the bottom of the in tray? I thank the honourable lady for her

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intervention and of course it gives me the opportunity to underline how

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important, particularly for her party, the opportunities for team

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building in the lobby must be. When you you go along to your local

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polling station and they give you a ballot paper, no

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questions are asked. You don't even need to have your

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polling card with you. A Conservative MP believes there's

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real potential for fraud. He introduced a backbencher's Bill

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that would require electors always to have proof

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of identity when voting. This is not a move to create

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a national identity card or a way to keep checks on people,

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it's simply a moved to add voting into the list of many things that

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require identification. It will involve a lot of extra

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work and it will also increase delays at polling stations

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because people will be having an argument about it all,

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or they would have to go back and queues would increase

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at the polling stations. We have had problems

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at many of those. And it would prevent a number

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of voters, particularly elderly It's petty, political,

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partisan proposal But the Bill did clear its first

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parliamentary hurdle. Later, Chris Green told me that

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bringing ID to polling stations would make voting

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a more secure process. I think the electorate

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want that reassurance. If you pick up a parcel

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from Royal Mail office, you To vote in democracy,

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such an important part of our society, I think people won't

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see that is too much of a burden. Do you think you'll get

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the government to look Eric Pickles did a really important

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report over the summer about wider I have taken one piece of this,

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so I think by the conversation being there, this national debate

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about security in our democracy, making sure that people

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who vote legitimately I think this momentum is gathering

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behind it and I certainly want Well, from one identity

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issue to another. On Monday a senior civil servant

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at the Department of Health said he was looking at making hospitals

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check out patients' identity to find out whether or not they should be

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paying for treatment. Chris Wormald said passport checks

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were already taking place at a hospital in Peterborough,

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a hospital that serves He was facing the questions

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of Parliament's spending watchdog, On Wednesday the Labour leader

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Jeremy Corbyn raised The practicalities are that

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you would have to ask somebody what country they are from and perhaps

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have identification via passport. We are looking, as I said earlier

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at whether Trusts should do more The general question are we looking

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at, whether Trusts should proactively ask people

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to prove identity, yes, and there are individual Trusts,

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like Peterborough, who are doing that and are reporting

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that it makes a difference. There you are, say, please bring two

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forms of identity - your passport and your address

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and they use that to check whether That is obviously quite

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a controversial thing to do, to say to the entire population

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that they have to prove identity. What he said was you would have

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to separate the sheep from the goats

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in order to determine you're a foreigner, and essentially

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you need to go down the ID card route to separate out

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who are entitled and not entitled. I don't think I would

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debate ID cards with On Wednesday the Labour leader

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Jeremy Corbyn raised the passports for treatment issue

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at Prime Minister's Questions. The last census showed us that nine

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and a half million people in this country don't

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have passports. Rather than distracting people

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with divisive and impractical policies, could the Prime Minister

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provide the NHS and social care with the money that it needs to care

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for the people who need the support? Over the course of this Parliament

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the government will be spending half a trillion pounds on the

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National Health Service. The Right Honourable gentleman asks

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about a process to ensure that people who are receiving

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NHS treatment are entitled to For many years there has

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been a concern about health tourism, about people turning

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up in the UK, accessing health We want to make sure

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that those who are entitled to use the services are,

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indeed, able to see those free at the point of delivery,

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but that we deal with health tourism and those who should be paying

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for the use of our health service. Now with a look at some

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of the week's more off-beat political stories, here's Alex

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Partridge. Government Chief Whip Gavin

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Williamson revealed the secret It's not the traditional little

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black book full of their darkest secrets, it's a big black

:23:59.:24:03.

spider he keeps in his Donald Trump's suggestion that

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Nigel Farage be the UK's ambassador to the US raised eyebrows,

:24:07.:24:12.

especially in Brussels, where the Ukip leader

:24:13.:24:14.

was famously undiplomatic. Here's European parliament Brexit

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negotiator Guy Verhofstadt. I think one clown in

:24:19.:24:22.

Washington is more enough. Revelations from the release

:24:23.:24:28.

of former Tory Chancellor Geoffrey Howe's official

:24:29.:24:29.

files include the fact that he spent months badgering Margaret Thatcher

:24:30.:24:32.

for cash to renovate his kitchen at Tory Scottish Parliament Member

:24:33.:24:35.

Douglas Ross missed a meeting of the Justice Committee this week

:24:36.:24:40.

to help referee Real Madrid's 2-1 Predictably opponents

:24:41.:24:43.

are calling for him to be And the wave of new SNP members

:24:44.:24:47.

elected to the Commons Sales of Scotland's

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other national drink Irn-Bru on the parliamentary estate

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are up 60% on last year. Of course, other soft

:24:57.:24:59.

drinks are available Alex Partridge enjoying

:25:00.:25:04.

some liquid refreshment. A busy few days coming up

:25:05.:25:18.

in the Commons and the Lords, with more argument expected over

:25:19.:25:21.

prison safety and over the contents of the Digital Economy Bill that

:25:22.:25:24.

deals with the sharing Alicia McCarthy will be here

:25:25.:25:28.

for the next Week In Parliament. But for now, from me

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Keith Macdougall, goodbye.

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