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Hello and welcome to The Week In Parliament -

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a week that brought bloodshed to the streets of Westminster

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and a defiant response from MPs.

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Let this be the message from this House and this nation today -

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our values will prevail.

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This democracy is strong, and this parliament is a robust.

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This was a horrific crime, and as an act

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of terror it has failed.

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MPs hold a minute's silence to remember those killed

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and injured, and members of the Scottish Parliament

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sent a message of solidarity to Westminster.

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Whatever our disagreements in this chamber or any other,

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we stand united in our core values of democracy, human rights

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and the rule of law.

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It had started as the Wednesday much like any other.

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Too many, the first sign that something was very badly wrong came

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while MPs were taking part in a vote, and the Deputy Speaker,

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Lindsay Hoyle, stood up and made this announcement.

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Order, order!

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I am now going to suspend the sitting of The House.

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This House is now suspended, but please wait here.

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Outside the chamber, it was slowly becoming

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clear what had happened.

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At around 2:40, pedestrians and police had been mown

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down as a car was driven across Westminster Bridge at high

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speed and crashed into railings.

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The driver then ran round to Parliament,

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stabbing and killing a police officer who was protecting

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one of the entrances, before he himself was shot down

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by an armed protection officer.

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MPs were told to stay in the Commons chamber,

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where the Leader of the Commons updated them on what had happened,

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and MPs agreed to suspend their sitting for the day.

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In view of what I sense to be the mood of the House

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and the situation in which we find ourselves, I beg to move

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that the House do now adjourn.

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The question is the House do now adjourn.

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As many of you say, "Aye".

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HOUSE: Aye.

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The ayes have it, the ayes have it.

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But that was not the end of what turned into a very long day.

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MPs were held in the Commons chamber for hours before being evacuated

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to Westminster Abbey, along with peers and staff.

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They were eventually allowed to leave later in the evening.

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That night, the Prime Minister made a statement outside Downing Street

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condemning what she called the sick, depraved and appalling attack.

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And Theresa May vowed that Parliament would meet

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as normal the next day.

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And so the Commons gathered on Thursday morning at 9:33,

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and held a minute's silence.

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Order.

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Colleagues, and respectful memory of those who lost their lives

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in yesterday's attack, and of all of the casualties of that

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attack, we shall now observe a minute's silence.

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A little later, the Prime Minister spoke to MPs.

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Mr Speaker, yesterday an act of terrorism tried

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to silence our democracy.

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But today we meet as normal.

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As generations have done before us and as future generations

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will continue to do, to deliver a simple message -

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we are not afraid.

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She paid tribute to PC Keith Palmer, who died protecting Parliament.

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PC Palmer had devoted his life to the service of his country.

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He had been a member of the Parliamentary and diplomatic

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protection command for 15 years.

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And a soldier in the Royal Artillery before that.

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He was a husband and a father, killed during a job he loved.

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He was every inch a hero, and his actions will never be forgotten.

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HOUSE: Hear, hear.

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She turned to the 52-year-old British-born attacker.

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Some years ago he was once investigated by MI5 in a relation

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to concerns about violent extremism.

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He was a peripheral figure.

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The case is historic.

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He was not part of the current intelligence picture.

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There was no prior intelligence of his intent, or of the plot.

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Intensive investigations continue.

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Theresa May said the threat from Islamist terrorism was real,

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but the public should not be cowed by the threat.

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And she paid tribute to the Bournemouth East MP,

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Tobias Ellwood, who tried to save PC Palmer.

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Mr Speaker, yesterday we saw the worst of humanity.

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But we will remember the best.

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We will remember the extraordinary efforts to save the life of PC

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Keith Palmer, including those by my right honourable friend

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the member for Bournemouth East.

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HOUSE: Hear, hear.

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And we will remember the exceptional bravery of our police,

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security and emergency services.

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And she said the greatest response lay not in the words of politicians,

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but in the everyday actions of ordinary people.

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The streets are as busy as ever.

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The offices full, the coffee shops and cafes bustling.

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Tourists taking planes and trains to travel to London and to see

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for themselves the greatest city on earth.

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It is in these actions, millions of acts of normality,

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that we find the best response to terrorism.

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A response that denies our enemies of victory,

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but refuses to let them win, that shows we will never give in.

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A response driven by that same spirit that drove a husband

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and father to put himself between us and our attacker.

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And to pay the ultimate price.

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A response that says to the men and women

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who propagate this hate and evil, "You will not defeat us".

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Mr Speaker, let this be the message from this house

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and this nation today - our values will prevail,

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and I commend this statement to the House.

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HOUSE: Hear, hear.

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Mr Speaker, I express my condolences to the family and friends of police

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officer Keith Palmer.

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Who gave his life yesterday in defence of the public,

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and our democracy.

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The police and security staff lost a colleague yesterday.

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And continue to fulfil their duties, despite their shock and their grief

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for their fallen colleague, which many expressed to me late last

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night when I was talking to them.

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We see the police and security every day.

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They're our colleagues, they're fellow workers,

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they're friends, they're neighbours.

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And as the Prime Minister said, when dangerous and violent

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instances take place, we all instinctively run away

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from them for our own safety.

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The police and emergency services run towards them.

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We are grateful for the public service, yesterday, today and every

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day that they pull on their uniforms to protect us all.

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No terrorist outrage is representative of any faith

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or any faith community, and we recommit ourselves

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to strengthening the bonds of tolerance and understanding.

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And finally is it not best to follow the advice of Brendan Cox,

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the husband of our murdered MP colleague Jo Cox, who has said,

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"In the days to come I hope we will remember the love

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and bravery of the victim, not just the hatred

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and cowardliness of the attacked".

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Those who attacked us hate our freedom, our peaceful democracy,

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our love of country, our tolerance, our

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openness and our unity.

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As we work to unravel how this unspeakable attack happened,

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will she agree with me that we must not, either in our laws or by our

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actions, curtaile these values?

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Indeed, we should have more of them.

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As an act of terror, it has failed.

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It has failed because we are here and we are going to go

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about our business.

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It's failed because despite the trauma that they witnessed

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out by their windows, our staff are here and they are

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getting on with their work.

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It failed because as the Prime Minister so rightly said,

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we are not going to allow this to be used as a pretext for division,

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hatred and Islamophobia.

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This democracy is strong, and this parliament is robust.

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This was a horrific crime, but as an act

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of terror it has failed.

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We have learnt in Northern Ireland that the way to overcome terrorism

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is by working together politically, and in every other way to ensure

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that our democratic values, the wall of law and human rights

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are all upheld in every way that we can.

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We must rededicate ourselves to that in the future.

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This attacker, and people like him, a lot of my religion.

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Nor are they of our community, and we should condemn all of them

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who pretend to be of a particular religion, because they're

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not of a religion.

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If they were of a religion, they wouldn't be carrying

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out acts like this.

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We have too stay united and show them that they can't

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win on these grounds, and we are here to stay.

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A Conservative remembered his friend, PC Palmer.

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I'd like to turn to just a moment for PC Keith Palmer,

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who I first met 25 years ago as Gunner Keith Palmer

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at the headquarter of the battery 100 Regiment, Royal Artillery.

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He was a strong, professional public servant.

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And it was a delight to meet him here again only a few months

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after being elected.

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Would my right honourable friend the Prime Minister,

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in recognition of the work that he did and the other police

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officers and public servants here in the House do,

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consider recognising his gallantry and sacrifice formally

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with a posthumous recognition?

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Thanks.

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Theresa May said it was something that would be

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considered in due course.

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While the Prime Minister was still speaking in the Commons,

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the Leader of the Lords led tributes to those who died in the attack.

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Her voice cracking with emotion, Lady Evans said, would be felt not

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just in this country, but across the globe.

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Yesterday was a shocking day for everyone who works

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within the Palace of Westminster.

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But what shone through has been the support and care that members

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and staff showed for each other.

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And I would like to thank all noble Lords for their patience

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and cooperation as events unfolded.

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HOUSE: Hear, hear.

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Last night as we returned home, we were very grateful.

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Not just because of the shocking, tragic events of the day,

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but simply because we could return home, and others would never do so.

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As the noble lady has said, those injured and killed

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on Westminster Bridge where both visitors and locals

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of our great, global city.

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They were just going about their everyday business,

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enjoying their day.

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For many, those survivors, life will never be the same.

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Our thoughts from these benches, and prayers, also with the families

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of those who lost their lives yesterday, and our profound

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sympathies are also with those innocent victims that members

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of the public who were on Westminster Bridge,

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and who were also subject to this senseless attack.

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My Lords, I would also, of course, like to pay

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tribute to PC Keith Palmer who lost his life yesterday.

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An extremely brave man.

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And to all the police and security staff who do so much everyday

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to protect all who come to Parliament, to

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work or to visit it.

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We aren't these benches during the everyone else in this

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house in expressing our deepest sympathy to the family of PC

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Keith Palmer, so tragically taken from us as he sought

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to deter the attacker.

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We remember, too, the families and friends of the members

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of the public who were killed, and all those who were injured,

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including students from France, whose visit to our city

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was so devastated by what happened.

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The Archbishop of Canterbury highlighted how the attacker had

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received treatment from the very people he had been seeking to kill.

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Where we do what is right, where we behave properly,

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where that generosity and extraordinary sense of duty that

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leads people to treat a terrorist is shown,

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where that bravery of someone like PC Keith Palmer

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is demonstrated, there is a victory for what is right and good over

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what is evil, despairing and bad.

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That was shown yesterday, that is shown not only

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in our expression of values but in our practices,

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which define those values, and that is the mood which we must

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sure in the future.

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-- show in the future.

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The Most Reverend Justin Welby.

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The attack sent shock waves around the political world.

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In Holyrood the news came as members of the Scottish Parliament

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were in the middle of a crucial debate on whether the First

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Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, should begin talks with Westminster

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over transferring powers to Holyrood for a second

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independence referendum, as our Scotland political editor,

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Brian Taylor explains.

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On Wednesday there was a democratic debate here in Holyrood.

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More than that, it was a debate about democracy, a debate

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about competing interpretations of a democratic mandate, a debate,

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in short, about whether power should be transferred from Westminster

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to Holyrood in order to enable a second independence

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referendum to take place.

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It was the second day of that debate that was passionate on all sides,

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it was democratic discourse.

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But as that got underway, as it continued, as it was sustained,

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the news began to seep through from Westminster

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of terrible events.

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As that news was confirmed that there was a tragedy unfolding

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on Westminster Bridge and around the Palace of Westminster,

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the decision was taken eventually after consultation to suspend

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proceedings here at Holyrood.

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The chamber fell silent for the day.

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But democracy is only postponed, not thwarted entirely.

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There will be a continuation of that debate here in Holyrood on Tuesday.

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There will then be a vote among the parties as to whether those

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powers should be transferred with the expectation

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that the vote here will be in favour of that transfer,

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with the expectation that the Prime Minister will say no

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in response to that demand for a transfer.

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But it is important to bear in mind that just as the Prime Minister

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is determined to go ahead in the face of tragedy

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with triggering Article 50 next week, beginning

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the process of Britain

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being removed from the EU, so here at Holyrood the parties,

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the governing party, the opposition, are determined to go

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ahead with that democratic debate, with that debate about democracy.

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Brian Taylor.

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And as Brian was saying, that debate on independence

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will resume on Tuesday.

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Meanwhile MSPs used the weekly session of First Minister's

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Questions to send a message of solidarity to Westminster.

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We know that at times like these it can be all too easy to look

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for someone to blame.

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It is important, therefore, that we are very clear about this.

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Acts of terrorism are not the responsibility of any one faith

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or section of our society.

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The only people to blame for acts of terrorism are the individuals

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who plan and perpetrate them.

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Whatever our disagreements in this chamber or any other,

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we stand united in our core values of democracy, human rights

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and the rule of law.

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Yesterday, a coward killed three innocent people and injured many

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more in an attempt to attack the symbol of our

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country's democracy.

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His attack on our values failed as he died, by the paramedics

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who demonstrated what a civilised society is by trying to save him.

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And his attack on our freedom will fail again today

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as we show our resolve by returning to work and getting

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on with our lives.

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London is a microcosm of the world.

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We know from the Prime Minister's statement just an hour ago

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that those injured yesterday were British, French, Romanian,

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South Korean, Greek, German, Polish and Irish.

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London is an open and multicultural city, home to people of all faith

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and from many different and diverse nations.

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A city that last year elected Europe's first Muslim mayor.

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So no matter the religion, nationality or identity

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of the attacker, or those arrested earlier this morning,

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this cannot and must not turn into a war on any one community.

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The lasting injury that some people wish to inflict on us

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all is to destroy the empathy and solidarity which our society

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depends upon so we must all be united in expressing and building

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that empathy and solidarity, in particular challenging those

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who would seek to blame, stigmatise and alienate people

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on the basis of their religion.

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For four years I would walk up Kennington Road and over

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Westminster Bridge.

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I would look up to Big Ben and then down the Thames.

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Dodging past the tourists taking pictures of this iconic scene

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recognised right across the globe.

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I would descend the steps and into the Palace of Westminster,

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nodding at the police officer who would nod in return.

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"Morning, Mr Rennie."

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It was the personal touch.

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I don't think I'll be able to walk that route again without thinking

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of the people run over, the woman in the river,

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the police and the people injured.

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The three people who died, perhaps some were tourists taking pictures.

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The officer who stood to defend democracy but losing his

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life in the process.

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But I do want to be free to walk that route again.

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Getting the balance right between security

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and freedom is a difficult one.

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Does the First Minister agree with me that we must

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act based on security, expertise, evidence

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and intelligence and not fear?

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Nicola Sturgeon replied that she agreed very strongly

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with what Willie Rennie had said.

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Other news now.

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On Thursday thousands of people, including former US

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President Bill Clinton, attended the funeral in Londonderry

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of Martin McGuinness, the former IRA commander who went

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on to become Deputy First Minister of the Northern Ireland Assembly.

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Political friends and foes had recalled his life at a special

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meeting at Stormont the day before.

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Martin McGuinness was an integral part of this institution

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since its inception in 1998.

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Many members have sat in this chamber in that period but few have

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demonstrated the same level of commitment to this assembly.

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Indeed, without Martin McGuinness, it is questionable whether there

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would be an assembly.

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Martin McGuinness was a political visionary.

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He played a key and enormous part in delivering fundamental change

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in this society and in transforming the relationships on this island

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and between these islands.

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He was a gifted political strategist, an orator,

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a thinker and an occasional angler, when he got the chance.

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He never sought to airbrush the past and neither did I.

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And of course it is precisely because of his past,

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because of his involvement with the IRA in the 70s and 80s

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because of his influence within those circles

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that he was able to play the role he played in bringing the republican

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movement towards using peaceful and democratic means.

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And because of all of that, I doubt we will ever see his like again.

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As an IRA terrorist and commander, his hands drip

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with the blood of innocent.

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He goes to his grave having shown no remorse, no regret,

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no apology for the terror he brought to our streets.

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Jim Allister, speaking following the death

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of Northern Ireland's former Deputy First Minister,

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Martin McGuinness.

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The Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales has strongly criticised

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the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, for failing to defend

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the independence of the judiciary.

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Last year, Lord Thomas and two High Court judges were described

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as "enemies of the people" by the Daily Mail following a ruling

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that Parliament had the right to vote on triggering Article 50,

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formally beginning the UK's exit from the EU.

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Earlier this month Liz Truss told the Lords Constitution Committee

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that she was a "huge believer" in the independence of

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the judiciary, but drew the line at saying what the press should print.

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A view put to Lord Thomas.

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I think criticism is very healthy.

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If you've got something wrong, fine.

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But there is a difference between criticism and abuse and I don't

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think that is understood.

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I don't think it is understood either how absolutely essential

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it is that we are protected because we have to act

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as our oath requires us, without fear or favour,

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affection or ill will.

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And it is the only time in the whole of my judicial career that I had

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to ask for the police to give us a measure of advice and protection

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in relation to the emotions that were being stirred up.

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And I think it is very wrong that judges should feel it.

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The circuit judges were very concerned.

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They wrote to the Lord Chancellor because litigants in person

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were coming and saying, "You are an enemy of the people."

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And I regret to have to criticise her as severely

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as I have but to my mind

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she is completely and absolutely wrong, as I have said about this,

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and I am very disappointed but I can understand what the pressures

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were in November but she has taken a position that is

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constitutionally absolutely wrong.

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The Transport Department announced a ban on airline passengers carrying

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laptops and other devices in their cabin baggage.

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It affects flights to the UK from Turkey, Lebanon,

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Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia and Jordan.

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The Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling, told the Commons

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he wanted aviation to continue as normal, these were extra security

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measures to make sure it was safe.

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Jeremy Corbyn used Prime Minister's Questions to accuse

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the Government of cutting funding for schools in England.

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In the Budget, the Government found no more money for the schools budget

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but it did find ?320 million for her own special schools,

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grammar schools vanity project.

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What kind of priority is that?

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Yes, we want diversity, we want different sorts of schools.

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We have put money into new school places but I say to the right

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honourable gentleman, his Shadow Home Secretary

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sent her child to a private school, his shadow Attorney General

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sent her child to a private school.

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He sent his child to a grammar school.

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He went to a grammar school himself.

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Typical Labour - take the advantage and pull up the ladder behind you.

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Theresa May is to formally trigger the UK's exit

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from the EU on Wednesday.

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The President of the European Union has been told the UK is to activate

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Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, beginning the two-year

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withdrawal period.

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Downing Street said that it hoped negotiations on the terms of Brexit

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and future relations could then begin as quickly as possible.

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Theresa May is expected to make a statement to MPs on Wednesday once

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Article 50 has been triggered.

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Confirmation of the date came just before EU leaders,

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minus Theresa May, were due to meet to mark the 60th anniversary

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of the signing of the Treaty of Rome, the agreement creating

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the European Economic Community, the forerunner of the EU.

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And that's it from me for now.

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But do join Joanna Shinn on Monday night at 11 for another round up

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But for now, from me, goodbye.

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Questions to the Prime Minister.

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