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Hello and welcome to
the Week In Parliament. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
It's pressure on the NHS
which dominates the week. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
The Labour leader mocks Theresa May. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
We know that the Prime Minister
recognises there is a crisis | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
in our NHS, because she wanted
to sack the Health Secretary last | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
week but was too weak to do it. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
The Prime Minister
defends her health policy. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Preparations for winter in the NHS
have been more extensive | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
and meticulous than ever before. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
And is the head of the energy
regulator OFGEM just too laid back? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:58 | |
Do you ever roll your sleeves up
and really get stuck in, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
because I don't really see
the evidence of that. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
But first... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
The Government called
it winter pressures, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
the opposition called it
a winter crisis. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
New figures showed that last month
300,000 people had to wait longer | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
than they should have at Accident
and Emergency | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
departments in England. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
These were the worst
figures since the targets | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
were introduced in 2004. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
The Labour leader led the attack
at Prime Minister's Questions. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Mr Speaker, I know it
seems a long time ago, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
I know it seems a long time ago
but just before Christmas I asked | 0:01:25 | 0:01:32 | |
the Prime Minister about the 12,000
people left waiting more than half | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
an hour in the back
of an ambulance at accident | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and emergency departments. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
She told the House the NHS
was better prepared | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
for winter than ever before. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:51 | |
So what words of comfort does
the Prime Minister have to | 0:01:51 | 0:01:59 | |
the 17,000 patients left waiting
in the back of ambulances | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
in the last week of December? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Is it that nothing is
perfect by any chance? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
I fully accept that the NHS is under
pressure over winter, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
it is regularly under pressure
at winter times. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
I have been very, I have been very
clear, I apologise to those people | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
who have had operations delayed
and those people who have had | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
admissions to hospital delayed. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
But it is indeed the case
that the NHS was better prepared | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
this winter than ever before. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
We know the Prime Minister
recognises there is a crisis | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
in our NHS because she wanted
to sack the Health Secretary last | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
week but was too weak to do it. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:39 | |
And if the NHS is so well resourced
and so well-prepared, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
why was the decision taken last week
to cancel the operations | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
of 55,000 patients during
the month of January? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:54 | |
This is what NHS providers
said only last week. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
Preparations for winter in the NHS
have been more extensive | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
and meticulous than ever before. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
The Health Secretary said
that the government wanted to be | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
the best in the world for cancer
diagnosis, treatment and care. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
Today, according to a memo
from the head of chemotherapy | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
at Oxford Churchill Hospital,
terminally ill cancer patients | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
will have their chemotherapy cut
because of a massive shortfall | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
in specialist nurses. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Will the Prime Minister
apologise to cancer | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
patients and their families
for this appalling situation? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
I say to the honourable lady
that the trust has made clear | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
there are no plans to delay
the start of chemotherapy treatment | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
or reduce the number of cycles
given to cancer patients. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
What Simon Stevens has said
is happening is that, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
over the past three years,
the highest cancer survival rates | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
ever, and latest figures show
an estimated 7000 more people | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
surviving cancer, after successful
NHS cancer treatment compared | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
to three years prior. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:07 | |
With record funding,
our NHS is doing more than ever, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
but when the UK is in the bottom
third of countries for heart attack | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
deaths, when we have significantly
worse survival for strokes | 0:04:15 | 0:04:23 | |
than France and Germany,
and when our closest match | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
for cancer survival is Chile
and Poland, isn't it time | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
to act across this house,
back this week by the Centre | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
for Policy Studies,
to establish a royal commission | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
on health and social care,
in the 70th anniversary year | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
of our most cherished
national institution? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
My honourable friend is right
that we need to continue to look | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
at the NHS and ensure
that we are continuing | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
to improve the performance
in a variety of areas. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
And the NHS remained firmly
on the agenda on Wednesday afternoon | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
when Labour used an opposition
debate to highlight | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
the strain winter was placing
on the health service. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
This is not just a winter crisis -
it is an all-year-round funding | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
crisis, a year-round staffing
crisis, a year-round social care | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
crisis and a year-round
health inequality crisis, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
manufactured in Downing Street
by this Government. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
The truth is that doctors and nurses
have lost confidence in him, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
patients have lost confidence
in him, and it seems | 0:05:23 | 0:05:29 | |
the Prime Minister has
lost confidence in him. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
He fights for his own job,
but he will not fight for the NHS. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Our patients are crying
out for change. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
It is a big deal for patients
who are told that their planned | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
procedure is to be postponed. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
No one minimises the distress that
that causes, but last year | 0:05:43 | 0:05:51 | |
and in previous winters operations
were cancelled at the last moment, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:59 | |
which is much more distressing
and challenging for hospitals | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
to plan around. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:09 | |
This Government have put in an extra
£437 million specifically | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
for the winter period? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:22 | |
Would he not at least give
the Government credit for that | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
planning, which we have
never seen before? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
All of us recognise that this
is a particularly tough winter | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
because there has been an outbreak
of flu on top of a bad freeze. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
I point out to those who think
the worst is past that the flu | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
season lasts until March
and at the moment this | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
is an outbreak, not an epidemic,
but it comes on top of underlying | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
pressures, and across the four
nations this has involved staff | 0:06:47 | 0:06:54 | |
having to go above and beyond
the call of duty. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
One of the real problems
is the absence of any | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
acknowledgement from Ministers
of the huge knock-on effect that | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
rescheduling a whole month s
operations will have. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:15 | |
It will simply mean that existing
patients who are already | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
on the waiting list will have
to wait even longer, too, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
and it will be very,
very difficult to bring that list | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
back down. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
Labour's motion condemning
government spending on the NHS | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
was later passed unopposed,
as Conservative MPs continued | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
their tactic of abstaining
on opposition motions. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Another big announcement of the week
was the Prime Minister's pledge | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
to eradicate all avoidable plastic
waste by 2042. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
She made the commitment
after tramping around | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
a wetland centre in London. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
The strategy is part
of the Government's 25-year plan | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
for England to improve
the natural environment. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
The amount of plastic in the oceans
has caused an outcry. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
The new measures include urging
supermarkets to introduce | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
"plastic-free" aisles,
while taxes and charges | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
on single-use items such as takeaway
containers will be considered. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
The issue seemed to be the talk
of Parliament on Thursday. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
In the Commons, a Labour
MP complained it was | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
a long time coming. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:15 | |
This UK Government has finally got
around to bunching is 25 year plan | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
catching up with the Welsh Labour
government on the rustic bag levy | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
just six years later. This plan
lacks substance is full of missed | 0:08:23 | 0:08:31 | |
opportunities, weak proposals and no
laws. It is not innovative, not | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
radical and it is a cheap attempt by
this Prime Minister of rebranding | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
the Tories green wash. Will the
Government commit to making a | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
statement on this plan in this House
to allow for proper scrutiny? I am | 0:08:44 | 0:08:50 | |
disappointed she is is a little
churlish to what we are sickened to | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
do. There are some issues across the
House we can unite and do what is | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
right for future generations. I
would really caution her to learn | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
more information as to what is being
decided. I'm sure it will be | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
discussed at length across the House
in the forthcoming business and she | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
will learn more today I hope and
more in the future as well. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
During a debate on forestry,
the Chair of the Environment | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Committee, said he had "much
enthusiasm" for the plan. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
I think what I want to see now is a
practical application on how we are | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
going to meet these goals because if
you want to change and | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
environmental, financial regulation
in banking, you change financial | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
regulation in banking and that fixes
hopefully the problem. If they | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
actually say aye want to plant
millions of trees you physically | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
have to plant the trees and have to
find the land for it and the policy | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
to do it. I'm not saying we can't do
it but it is how we deliver that | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
into the future. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
And in the Lords, the former Chair
of the Green Party said she'd been | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
hoping for concrete measures,
but she was disappointed. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
There was absolutely nothing new on
climate change and there was no | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
measures, no strong measures or
suggestions for legislative change | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
that could actually make a
difference. And for example I just | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
don't understand how the Prime
Minister can claim we as a country | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
are leading on climate change when
she is about to give the green light | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
for more fracking. We are still
earning onshore wind developers. We | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
are still trying to build new
nuclear power stations and we are | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
giving tax breaks to oil and. None
of these things are going to help us | 0:10:31 | 0:10:39 | |
to have a greener and safer planet. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Lady Jones. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Westminster awoke on Tuesday
still ruminating on how Theresa May | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
had reshuffled her cabinet pack. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
The changes may have
been rather limited, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
but that didn't mean there weren't
several ministers getting to grips | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
with new departments. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
And there was no
gentle warm-up either. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Less than 24 hours into the job,
the Justice Secretary, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
David Gauke was answering questions
about the decision to | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
release the serial sexual
offender, John Worboys. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Worboys was convicted of 19 offences
and is suspected of attacking | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
more than 100 women. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
But the decision by the Parole Board
to free him, nine years | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
after he was jailed,
has raised concern | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
among his victims. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
David Gauke said he'd look
into the transparency surrounding | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
the parole board's decision. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
I should be absolutely clear that
I think that parole board should | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
remain an independent body,
responsible for making decisions | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
about the on going risk
that individuals pose | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
after serving their tariff. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
But I agree with my predecessor's
assessment that there is a strong | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
case to review the case
for transparency in the process | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
for parole decisions and how victims
are appropriately engaged in that | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
process and consider the case
for changes in policy, practice, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
or the parole board rules or other
guidance or procedures, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:56 | |
including the victims' code. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It is all too clear that the victims
of the vile crimes committed | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
by John Worboys feel that this
process has failed to do so. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
And such failings risk
undermining public trust | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
in our wider justice system. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Mr Speaker, many women, both
the victims and others more widely, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
will be every anxious indeed
about Mr Worboys being freed. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
And the current legal restrictions
on the parole board mean | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
that we do not know why this
decision was taken. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Some of the victims
still have heard nothing | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
from the victims liaison officer. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
They still don't know
what the parole board terms are, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and whether this man may end up
living near them. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Given that the tariff is a minimum,
why does the sole test applied | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
by the parole board appear to be
simply whether the criminal | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
still poses a risk to others? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
What has happened to the concept
that the punishment | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
should fit the crime? | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
In his review, is he going to look
explicitly not at what transparency | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
there was about how decisions
were being made, but how victims' | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
voices were actually being heard
as part of that process? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Since the privatisation of probation
in the West Midlands, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
there is one victims'
officer for an area with | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
three million people in it. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
So, in this review, can
I ask the very welcome | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
new Justice Secretary to look
at what was taken away | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
and potentially why an e-mail
to a victim isn't enough | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
when a relationship
is what we used to have? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:31 | |
Worboys was up prolific sex attacker
for up to ten years. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
There are likely to be
hundreds of victims. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Yet in court, he showed no remorse,
he dismissed his actions as banter, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
and even two years ago,
he was claiming that he had done | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
absolutely nothing wrong. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
So, it is impossible for people
to understand how the board | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
could possibly have deemed this man
to be safe. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
So, would my right honourable friend
agree with me that unless, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and until the board explains
publicly the rationale behind | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
the decision it took,
people can't possibly have | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
confidence in our room
and justice system. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
I completely understand the point
that my honourable friend is making. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:15 | |
As presently stands,
the parole board is not able | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
to provide in public the reasons
for their decision. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
The chair of the parole
board has made clear | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
that he wishes that he could. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:32 | |
The new Justice
Secretary David Gauke. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
One of the Cabinet whose
job never seemed to be | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
in peril was Amber Rudd,
the Home Secretary. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
In fact she gained a new role, as
Minister for Women and Equalities. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
One of the first issues
to confront her in her additional | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
capacity was the row about equal pay
at the BBC. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
The corporation's China editor
Carrie Gracie resigned | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
from her post accusing the BBC
"unlawful pay discrimination." | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Here in the 21st century,
surely women deserve total equality. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Can the Minister tell us what steps
the government is taking to make | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
sure there isn't a pay gap
in the civil service, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
in light of the fact that
Carrie Gracie has resigned recently | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
as China editor of the BBC,
citing pay issues there? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, I thank my honourable
friend for raising such | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
an important element. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
It is absolutely essential
that we all ensure that the equal | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
pay act is enforced and much
as I admire the BBC and enjoy | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
listening and looking
at their programmes, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
they clearly have a very
serious question to answer | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
here which I certainly hope
they will address. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
And in terms of gender pay gap,
we are committed to ensuring | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
that we do address that as well,
and of course, we have | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
new disclosure arrangements. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
Amber Rudd's predecessor as Women
and Equalities Minister | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
was the Education Secretary Justine
Greening, who quit in the reshuffle. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
From her new position
on the backbenches, she rose | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
to ask her first question. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
First of all, I would like to
congratulate the Home Secretary | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
on her expanded role. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
I know she will do a brilliant job. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
She will know that young people,
parents, and teachers think | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
that it is vital in a modern
internet world to see sex | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
and relationships education updated. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:12 | |
Can she confirm that
the government will push ahead | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
with updating the guidance
that is now so out of date but also | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
if she will meet with myself,
my right honourable friend | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
the member for Basingstoke,
and also the honourable | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
member for Rotherham,
to make sure we can have cross-party | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
support for the work
that is being undertaken? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Can I start by thanking the Minister
for the enormous good work | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
she did in this role,
and I will try my best to keep up | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
the momentum that she has provided. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
And one of the fantastic things
that she had was lead on making sure | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
that sex and relationship education
is going to be provided | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
in all schools. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
I would be delighted
to work with her to make | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
sure that is the case,
and also across the House, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
to make sure that the outcome we get
is one that the whole House can | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
support, as I know that everyone
believes this is an important part. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Amber Rudd. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
The chief executive of the energy
regulator Ofgem admitted | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
the organisation "should have done
better" for vulnerable consumers. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Dermot Nolan was given
something of a roasting | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
by the Commons Business Committee. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
So, given that you accept
you have a statutory duty to protect | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
those vulnerable customers,
do you think that... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Well, you have effectively just
admitted that you have | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
failed them today. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
ball I think we have not done
as well as we could have. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
You are the single most important
player in the market | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
because you have the most
extraordinary powers | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
as the regulator. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
And, yet, your testimony sounds
so incredibly passive. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
Do you ever just roll your sleeves
up and really get stuck in? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Because I don't really see
the evidence of that. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
I apologise if I seem passive. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I honestly do not feel passive. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
I did exhibit, I think... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:46 | |
As I said before, I wish
we had moved earlier | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
in putting the price caps in. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
What lessons have
you taken from that? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
And how has that
changed your behaviour? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
We are rolling up our sleeves very
strongly at the moment, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and we have been doing so over
the last year, since the BMA | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
finished, in terms of bringing
a price cap for vulnerable | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
customers, which I
think is the limit. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:09 | |
You have just admitted
that you acted earlier. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
But the consequence of you not
acting earlier has been | 0:18:11 | 0:18:18 | |
that many customers,
particularly vulnerable customers, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
have paid much more money
than they should have done. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
I accept that and we should
have moved earlier. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Do you apologise to those customers? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
I do. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Ofgem's chief executive. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
Labour told ministers that they're
rewarding failure by bailing out | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
train companies that
run into trouble. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
In 2014, Virgin and its partner
Stagecoach signed a deal to run | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
the East Coast line until 2023. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
But in November, ministers allowed
the companies to withdraw | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
from running the service
three years early. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
The Shadow Transport Secretary
condemned the move. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
In 2016, the Department
for Transport set out its objectives | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
for rail franchising. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
These were to encourage
a flourishing, competitive passenger | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
rail market which secures high
performing, value for money services | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
for passengers and tax payers,
whilst driving cost effectiveness. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
Deputy Speaker, it is clear
that the department has failed | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
to meet these objectives. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
The latest collapse
of the East Coast franchise | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
announced in November makes
a mockery of the | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
department's 2016 aims. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Virgin Stagecoach didn't deliver
and defaulted on their contract, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
and the Secretary of State has given
them a gift. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
I am grateful to my honourable
friend for giving way. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Given on the East Coast mainline
that this will be the third occasion | 0:19:36 | 0:19:46 | |
in just over a decade
that the private contractor has | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
announced that it wishes
to hand back the keys, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
was it not a fundamental mistake,
on the part of the government, not | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
to have allowed East Coast Trains
that successfully run the franchise | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
for over five and a half years,
paid back £1 billion | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
to the Treasury, to allow carrying
on its good work and instead | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
ideological elite demanding that
anyone could bid to run it but not | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
the state owned company that had
done it so successfully? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:15 | |
My right honourable friend has made
an absolutely perfect point, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
and it is the scene that will be
consistent throughout this debate. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
I have absolutely no doubt. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:26 | |
Indeed, the government should have
followed the example of Labour | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
in 2009 when theh operator defaulted
and taken the the contract back | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
into the public sector. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:38 | |
If a company defaults,
it doesn't deserve the contract. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
That way, there would be
no reward for failure, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
and other companies in the industry
wouldn't expect the same treatment. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
When it came to his turn, the
Transport Secretary was scathing. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
We've just heard something like 45
minutes of complete nonsense | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
from the party opposite. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
I suspect it might also be
unparliamentary of me | 0:20:51 | 0:21:07 | |
to call him hypocritical,
so I won't call him personally | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
hypocritical, but I have no doubt
that others in the know will be | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
astonished by the gall
with which they simply | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
forget their actions in government. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
With which they pretend their ideas
won't cost a penny. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I keep hearing their ideas
won't cost a penny. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
It is absolutely untrue. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
And with which they make inaccurate
claims, based on a lack of facts | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
on subjects they appear
to not understand. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Chris Grayling. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
The Government has been warned that
moves to cut the size of the House | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
of Lords could be undermined
if the Prime Minister | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
appoints new peers. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:37 | |
Reports have suggested Theresa May
is preparing to create 12 | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
new Conservative peers to help get
Brexit legislation | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
through the Lords. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
In a debate last year,
there was strong support among peers | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
for the recommendations
of the Burns Committee to reduce | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
the numbers from 800 to 600. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Mrs May was urged to show restraint. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Would it not be a embarrassment
and make a nonsense of any further | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
consideration of the Burns report
if the Prime Minister was to go | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
ahead and make a series
of nominations before we had | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
considered it fully? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
The point that the noble
Lord has just made was | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
made during the debate. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:12 | |
And I thought, if I may say
so, that it was dealt | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
with very well indeed
by the Lord Butler of Brockwell. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
And he said this, we are told that
a further list of appointments | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
is about to be published,
but I do not share the apocalyptic | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
view expressed earlier
by the noble lord Lord Steele. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
I believe this can be regarded
as a legacy issue arising | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
from the May general election that
does not inhibit the adoption | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
of the approach indeed
of the Burns report. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
I hope the noble lord
is reassured by the words | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
of the former Cabinet Secretary. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
If the government is prepared
to accept the Burns proposals, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:47 | |
and that includes departures
from and introductions to this House | 0:22:47 | 0:22:53 | |
should be on the basis
of two out and one in, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
and on a 15 year term limit,
probably from the last general | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
election, we will abide by that. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
Will the government
agreed to do so as well? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
As I said, the government
is considering the report and will | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
make its views known shortly. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
But if I can just take up
the point that the noble | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
baroness made in her speech. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
And she made a good speech,
if I may say so, as did my noble | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
friend and the leader of the Lib
Dems. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
What she said is this -
it is not about giving up | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
patronage or appointments,
but about showing some | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
restraint, as it used to be. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
Now, the Prime Minister has
demonstrated restraint, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
putting on one side David Cameron's
resignation honours, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
in the last 18 months,
the Prime Minister has appointed | 0:23:27 | 0:23:37 | |
eight, eight new peers,
five crossbenchers, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
and three ministers. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
Now, I think that is demonstrating
the restraint that the noble | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
lady has just asked for. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
Is there not another
way that an this little | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
dilemma might be resolved? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Quite clearly, if you look
at the electorate as a whole, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and the votes which have been cast
at recent elections, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
the Lib Dem peers are grossly
overrepresented here. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Suppose 50 of them did
the decent thing and resigned, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:05 | |
this would all be resolved! | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
LAUGHTER. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
Well, I think that question,
if I may say so, from my noble | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
friend, was not addressed to me,
but addressed to | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
the benches opposite. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
It is indeed the case that on almost
any objective basis, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
the Liberal Democrats
are overrepresented, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
and credit to them, they actually
recognise this during the debate. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
The noble lord Lord Newby,
when he spoke on behalf | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
of the Lib Dems, recognised
that their numbers would have | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
to come down under the proposals
of the Burns report. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Whether one could expect the Lib Dem
is to unilaterally cut their numbers | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
without anybody else doing anything
at all would be to exhibit | 0:24:38 | 0:24:48 | |
a generosity for which the Liberal
Democrats are not well-known. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
The ever-understated Lord Young. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
Well, during the course of the week
there were many words | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
of congratulation for the various
ministers who moved or gained | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
jobs in the reshuffle. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
But one of the main talking points
was the erroneous and then | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
hastily deleted tweet
from Conservative Central Office | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
that Chris Grayling had been made
chairman of the party. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
The Shadow Transport Secretary felt
it important to mark | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
Mr Grayling's achievement. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
Also, I want to congratulate
the Secretary of State | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
for his superb stewardship
of the Conservative Party. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
There has never been a fine record. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
No elections were lost,
no major scandals, and I think | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
he has maintained his membership
around 70,000, so not bad | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
for 27 seconds work. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
So, the best to him. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Chris Grayling - the mayfly
of Conservative chairmen. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
And that's all we've got time for. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
Keith MacDougall will
be here on Monday. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
But for now from me,
Mandy Baker, goodbye. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 |