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Hello, and welcome to

The Week In Parliament.

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Coming up in the next half hour:

The Bill putting EU law on the UK

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statue book clears its first hurdle

in the Lords.

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But there's a hint of

the battles to come.

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At this pivotal moment in our

history.

We cannot, we must not

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indulge in that very British habit

of just muddling through.

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MPs vote to move out

of Parliament for a mutli billion

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pound repair programme,

after warnings there's

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a risk of it burning down!

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We must recognise that as time

passes without competence of action,

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those risks only increase.

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Also on this programme:

It's stand-in day at

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Prime Minister's Questions,

where Emily Thornberry attacks

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the Government and the DUP for not

backing votes at 16.

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They are not the coalition of chaos,

Mr Speaker, there are the coalition

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of cavemen!

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But David Lidington says that Labour

put up the age for doing

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all sorts of things.

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Raise the age to 18, and raise the

age for using a sunbed to 18.

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But first: After two days

of debate and 190 speakers,

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the EU Withdrawal Bill

cleared its first Parliamentary

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hurdle in the House of Lords.

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The Bill transfers EU law into UK

domestic law to avoid a legal black

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hole opening up after brexit.

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It's already been through

the Commons, so now it was down

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to Peers to have their say,

and the Government could have

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been left in no doubt

it was going to have a fight

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on its hands.

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A Labour former Transport

Secretary Lord Adonis,

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proposed a rare vote to regret

the Bill, in effect calling

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for a second referendum.

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The interest of the public as a

whole do not lie in making written

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partner. They do not lie in

undermining the Good Friday

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agreements. They do not lie in

diminishing trade and our people's

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right to live and work across

Europe.

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There was strong criticism too

from a former brexit minister.

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All we hear day after day are

conflicting, confusing voices. If

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this continues and Ministers cannot

agree amongst themselves on the

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future relationship the Government

wants, how can this Prime Minister

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possibly negotiate a clear, precise

set of terms with the future

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relationship of the EU? My fear is

that we will get meaningless waffle

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in a political decoration in

October. The implementation period

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will not be a bridge to a clear

destination, but a gang plank into

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thin air. At this pivotal moment in

our history, we cannot, we must not

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indulge in that very British habit

of just muddling through.

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A former Ukip leader said

he supported the Bill,

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but thought the Government needed

to change tack on the

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Brexit negotiations.

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They should sit the Eurocrats down

and tell them we have done our best

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to make clauses to defy the Article

50 work. They have abused our trust,

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and we see no future in going on

like this. So we are unilaterally

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taking back our law, our borders,

fisheries, agriculture is and so on,

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but we will also be generous. We

will give them wide mutual

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residence. We will allow them to

continue in free trade with us. We

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will go on helping them with

security, and then we will decide,

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but might not -- my lord, how much

cash will give them, which may be

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nothing after March 29 next year if

they do not behave themselves and

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fall into the above.

It remains

government policy to Brexit, we will

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strengthen our democracy, protecting

all those in its process. In its

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current process -- form, this build

will fail on all those aims, and

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sadly the gaps in the Bill will

leave the environment is the biggest

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casualty.

As things stand, both

government and opposition parties

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are finding it hard to agree on a

Way forward. So a referendum on a

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new question about the future

relationship may become unavoidable.

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Although this is not something we

should be voting at this stage.

I

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know it my duty is, and it is to

bring to the attention of the other

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house the manifest defects which

exist in this legislation. We may

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not make them any wiser, my lords,

but if we do it properly with this

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bill, we will make them better

informed. Heavens knows they need

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it.

The door to the studio of your

lordships House is very clear. That

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duty, I submit, is to assert our

rights to scrutinise, to amend, and

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if needs be, to reject unacceptable

parts of this bill, and to use the

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entire arsenal of our powers and

prerogatives to limit the damage

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that threatens the sovereignty of

Parliament and the national

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interest.

I cannot believe it is in

the national interest to get onto

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such a referendum merry-go-round.

Whatever point of view we fought for

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in the referendum campaign, we could

have made a success of the United

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Kingdom in the European Union. And

we can make a success with sunk

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costs and a people of being outside

the European Union, but we cannot

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possibly make a success at being in

a national state of bewilderment

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about when we're going to have

another referendum, and which

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direction we're going in.

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Well at the end of that, Lord Adonis

didn't press his motion to the vote,

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and the Bill passed its second

reading, it will begin

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detailed scrutiny in

the Lords later this month.

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MPs have backed a call

for Parliament to move out

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of the Palace of Westminster,

while billions of pounds

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of repairs are carried out.

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The building is part

of a World Heritage site,

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but there are problems

with asbestos, wiring,

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pipes, and plumbing.

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The thorny problem of how to carry

out the repairs has been

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looked out over the years,

with three options being put

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forward, moving out altogether,

moving one chamber out at a time

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and staying put for the work to be

carried out around Mps and peers.

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The three options

carry correspondingly

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increasing price tags!

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Opening a debate the Leader

of the Commons presented Mps

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with two two motions,

one of which suggested a further

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review delaying any decision

for a further four years,

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and a second suggesting the setting

up of a delivery authority as soon

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as possible to look at the options

again and fully cost them.

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Andrea Leadsom said she'd approach

the question of restoration

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with a healthy degree of scepticism.

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I, like many, felt that the case for

a major restoration programme had

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probably been overstated, and that

the powers look fine to me, and we

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would be able to continue to patch

and mend as we went a long, as we

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have done for many, many decades.

However, Mr Speaker, during my seven

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months in the job, I have, as they

say, gone on a journey. I have lived

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and breathed this topic. I have

visited the basement and seen for

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myself what our engineers are up

against. We must recognise that as

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time passes without comprehensive

action, those risks only increase.

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Lu this work is necessary for

safety, that has been agreed by

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everyone.

We cannot delay, any delay

increases the costs.

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A Lib Dem dismissed the idea

of moving one chamber out at a time.

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Because the services do provide for

the whole of the House, and

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therefore you cannot decant half the

building.

When I look at his

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building and the stunning

architecture, I see it as some sort

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of sad metaphor for Brexit Britain,

dilapidated, falling to bits around

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our ears, generally unloved, and in

need of a lot of attention and

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support. Doesn't that just sum up

where this nation is? Mr Speaker...

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My honourable cousin from Scotland,

it would take a crowbar and a root

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of our through to wrestle this

place. He wasn't here!

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Recovering from that, Pete Wishart

said he favoured turning the palace

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into a tourist attraction.

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A group of mps had put down

an amendment to the motion,

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propososing that all Mps and Peers

moving out altogether

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while the work was carried out,

and calling for the proposed

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delivery agency to oversee

the project to be set up

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as soon as possible.

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One of the Mps behind that amendment

said trying to move out one chamber

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at a time would double the cost

and risk of fire.

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The thought of cutting a sewer

system in half, or the electrics or

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any other works does not make sense.

Because of the nature of the

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building.

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Well there then followed

a series of votes.

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Unusually this was what's

known as a free vote,

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meaning that Mps didn't have

to follow a party line

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but could vote however they wanted.

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Mps backed the amendment calling

for both houses to move out

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of the Palace while work was carried

out by 236 votes to 220.

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There's no date set for when that

will happen, but during the debate,

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Andrea Leadsom said MPs and peers

would not leave the Houses

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of Parliament until

2025 at the earliest.

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Peers will have their say

in the next few days.

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It was all change at

Prime Ministers questions.

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Theresa May in China

pix The Prime Minister,

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Theresa May was on a trip to China,

attempting to boost

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trade and relations.

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As well as formal talks,

there was time for Mrs May

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and her husband to pay a visit

to a Peking Opera performance,

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for a little music and drama.

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Well, back in Westminster the lead

role at prime minster's

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questions had been delegated

to the Cabinet Office Minister,

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David Lidington, who faced

the Shadow Foreign Secretary,

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Emily Thornberry.

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The exchanges began with a little

bit of banter about the last time

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the two had faced each other

across the despatch box.

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Let me start by welcoming the

Minister back to his role,

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deputizing for the Prime Minister.

Last time he did so was in December,

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2016, when his party with 17 points

ahead in the polls, and he told the

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House that the Labour Party was

correlated like the film mutiny on

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the bounty, reshot by the team who

made carry-on. Well, what a

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difference a year makes!

It's a

delight to me to see the right

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honourable Lady still in her place,

when no fewer than 97 members of her

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front bench have either been sacked

or resigned since the opposition

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took office.

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Emily Thornberry asked

about the number of women

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in Parliament.

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I am pleased my party has made

considerable progress, but I accept

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that there is more to be done. I

hope that she will accept that we

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have now had two women leaders and

prime Ministers, so they have a bit

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of catching up to do.

I have to say,

Mr Speaker, that if the party

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opposite of so route of having a

female leader, why are so many of

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them trying to get rid of her? And

why has she had to run away to China

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to get away from them?

She then

turned to the hundredth anniversary

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of women winning the right to vote.

90 years ago, he was extended to all

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women over 21, and almost 15 years

ago, it was extended to all men and

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women over the age of 18. So can I

ask the Minister a simple question.

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How many more years do we have to

wait until the vote is extended to

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everyone over 16?

I have to say, I

am slightly baffled by the

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honourable Lady's comments, when

compared to what her party did in

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office. Because it was the last

labour government that raised the

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legal age for buying cigarettes to

18, raised the age for selling

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knives to 18, raised the age

divide... And raise the age for

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using a sunbed for 18!

There is no

logical objection to the vote, that

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is why the Welsh Government

supported, that is why every single

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political party in this House

supports it, except of course the

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Conservative Party and the DUP. Once

again, joined in opposition to

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change, they are not the coalition

of chaos, Mr Speaker, there are the

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coalition of cavemen!

The situation

we have here, Mr Speaker, with the

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national voting age at 18, is one

that is followed by 26 out of the 27

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other members of the European Union.

By the United States, Canada, New

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Zealand, and Australia. Unless she

is going to denounce all of those

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countries as somehow inadequate to

her own particular standards, then

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quite honestly, Mr Speaker, she

ought to grow up and try to treat

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this subject with a great deal of

seriousness.

Let me read you this

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from one of the residents affected.

This is an eyewitness statement.

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Stranger standing and other ends of

the Street firing fireworks as if

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they were guns. Pointing at each

other. I saw one young child being

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hit in the head by fireworks,

fortunately it did not explode it

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had it exploded it would've resulted

in some serious burns.

In the debate

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in the comments, MP 's call for an

end to car park charges and

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hospitals in England. It's estimated

that its cost visitors hundreds of

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thousands of pounds each are.

No one

goes to the hospital by choice, no

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one chooses to be ill, we rely on

doctors and nurses to look after us

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and we urge the Minister who is here

today to take urgent action to end

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this social injustice once and for

all.

The Government has rejected

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claims that there are calls to

fluoride to be added to water

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The Government has rejected

claims that dental care

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Mps held a debate on the next

phase of high speed rail,

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extending the route

from the West Midlands to Crewe.

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But a Conservative rejected the idea

that the line would provide

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an alternative to flying to Europe.

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and patients pay more and more.

I'm

afraid I do not recognise the

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picture didn't honourable lady has

painted. That figure is increasing

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over the last ten years. I should

also point out that there are more

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dentists practising in the NHS than

ever.

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Michael Fabricant said his

constituents would still have

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to trek across birmingham

to change trains.

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A local councillor had timed

how long it would take.

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in England is in crisis.

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It it took him...

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A Government Minister dramatically

resigned in the House

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Lord Bates apologised

to for what he described

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of Lords after arriving late

for question time.

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as his 'discourtesy'.

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We should always rise to the highest

standards of courtesy and respect. I

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am thoroughly ashamed that not being

in my place and therefore I shall be

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offering my resignation to the Prime

Minister. With immediate effect.

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Lord Bates immediately

walked out of the chamber.

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Downing Street later said

the Prime Minster had refused

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to accept his resignation.

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Well, while we're on the subject

of apologies, a Brexit Minister

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apologised to the Mps

following comments he made

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at question time on Thursday.

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A Conservative Mp suggested

to Steve Baker that Treasury

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officials were trying to influence

policy with negative

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economic projections.

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Will my right honourable friend

confirmed that he heard said from

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Central European research that

officials in treasury deliberately

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developed a model to share that all

options and status remaining in view

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commissions were banned...

I am

sorry to say to my honourable

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colleague is essentially correct.

Civil service are extraordinarily

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careful to uphold the impartiality

of the civil service.

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Well, overnight audio

of what Charles Grant,

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the director of the Centre

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for European Research

had said was released,

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and first thing Friday,

Steve Baker came to the Commons

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to accept he'd got it wrong.

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Yesterday I answered the question to

the best of my recollection. I'm the

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audio of that conversation is now

available and I am glad the record

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stands corrected. In the context of

that audio, I accept that I

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should've corrected or dismissed the

premise of by honourable friend's

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question. I have apologised to Mr

Charles Grant who is an honest and

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trustworthy man.

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CLIP HOC FRIDAY And he repeated

he had the highest regard for hard

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working civil servants.

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Now let's go back to

Prime Minister's Questions,

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where the SNP's Westminster leader

turned his attention to Brexit.

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This is a government in crisis, I'd

international embarrassment.

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Chancellor the Scottish circuit

Drake, Scottish Conservatives, are

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all supporters of the SIngle Market.

Despite this, the Government is

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still prepared to make everyone...

Where is the leadership?

The most

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important SIngle Market to the

people of Scotland is the SIngle

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Market of the United Kingdom. It is

worth nearly £50 million to the

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Scottish economy, four times more

than trade with the EU. It is our

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deep and special partnership with

the EU, that will help deliver

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prosperity to Scotland, now the

separatist agenda pursued by

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Scottish...

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The BBC's Carrie Gracie has told MPs

she is 'very angry' at the way

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that the response to her grievance

was insulting, but women further

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the Corporation has treated some

female members of staff.

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Carrie Gracie resigned

as China Editor,

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citing pay inequalities

with male colleagues.

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The BBC said there was 'no systemic

discrimination against women'.

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She told the Culture

and Media Committee

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admitted she was the victim

of pay discrimination.

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down the organisation

were suffering more.

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If the BBC cannot sort it out for

me, a single person to 55 and a

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powerful position, how can it sorted

out for more vulnerable people

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without a public profile, that is my

concern. Being in conflict, the

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delays, the opacity and the

belittling of the work, that is what

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has to happen if you are not willing

to concede, the are going to have to

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crush your self-esteem about your

work. That is very painful. I found

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all of that really hard and I really

did, getting upset now, I felt very

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angry, I really feel about some of

the things I've seen and heard, and

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some of the women's's suffering that

has come through.

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As regards her own case,

Carrie Gracie said the BBC had not

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To me it sounds like a tacit

admission that it is pay

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discrimination, and want to pay

£100,000 in back pay. But what is

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unacceptable to me, I just don't

know why they do this. They

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basically said, if these three

previous years that I was in

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development. It is an insult to add

to the original injury. It is

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unacceptable to talk to your senior

women like that.

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And the next witness

was the Director General, Tony Hall.

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Finally, Mps were all

of a on Wednesday

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The ad services that's wrong. What

we are doing going forward, we want

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to make sure that we keep these

things regularly under review, so we

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don't get to the point between the

gap top paid editor and is

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unjustifiable.

Do you agree with me

that the BBC has paid less to women

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who work on equal... ?

The answer is

that might be individual cases,

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where if that is the case we will

solve them. I don't believe that the

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BBC is an organisation, that we will

pay a woman less to do that job.

To

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go back to the case of Carrie, she

was being paid less, I have said

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already that the grievance and the

mistakes procedure, I accept were

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wrong and I am sorry about that.

That was a big failure of

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management, there was no system in

place.

There is no failure of

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management, management is always

about learning and listening, things

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are never right, you have to report

-- reform terms and could dishes two

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years ago, at the same time we

looked at the same issue, paying top

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talent because we knew we had to get

things right. It has taken a long

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time and this committee has heard

today, it's a very complicated

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issue. Don't underestimate our

desire to get this right.

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Finally, Mps were all

of a on Wednesday

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A robin had found its way

into the chamber and swooped

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across the ceiling during Welsh

questions at the start of the day.

0:24:580:25:01

It was still roosting in the chamber

during Prime Minister's Questions,

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the SNP's Westminster leader saw

an opportunity to make a quick joke

0:25:040:25:08

joke about David Lidington's

possible leadership ambitions.

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I wonder if he's...

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Or perhaps he could

put it on Twitter.

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And that's it from me for now but do

join Keith Macdougall on BBC

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Parliament on Monday night

at 11pm for a full round up

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of the day in Westminster.

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But for now, from me,

Alicia McCarthy, goodbye!

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