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Hello, and welcome to
The Week In Parliament. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Coming up in the next half hour:
The Bill putting EU law on the UK | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
statue book clears its first hurdle
in the Lords. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
But there's a hint of
the battles to come. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:32 | |
At this pivotal moment in our
history. We cannot, we must not | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
indulge in that very British habit
of just muddling through. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
MPs vote to move out
of Parliament for a mutli billion | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
pound repair programme,
after warnings there's | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
a risk of it burning down! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
We must recognise that as time
passes without competence of action, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:55 | |
those risks only increase. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Also on this programme:
It's stand-in day at | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Prime Minister's Questions,
where Emily Thornberry attacks | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
the Government and the DUP for not
backing votes at 16. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
They are not the coalition of chaos,
Mr Speaker, there are the coalition | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
of cavemen! | 0:01:12 | 0:01:13 | |
But David Lidington says that Labour
put up the age for doing | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
all sorts of things. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
Raise the age to 18, and raise the
age for using a sunbed to 18. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:24 | |
But first: After two days
of debate and 190 speakers, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
the EU Withdrawal Bill
cleared its first Parliamentary | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
hurdle in the House of Lords. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
The Bill transfers EU law into UK
domestic law to avoid a legal black | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
hole opening up after brexit. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
It's already been through
the Commons, so now it was down | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
to Peers to have their say,
and the Government could have | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
been left in no doubt
it was going to have a fight | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
on its hands. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
A Labour former Transport
Secretary Lord Adonis, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
proposed a rare vote to regret
the Bill, in effect calling | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
for a second referendum. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
The interest of the public as a
whole do not lie in making written | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
partner. They do not lie in
undermining the Good Friday | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
agreements. They do not lie in
diminishing trade and our people's | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
right to live and work across
Europe. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
There was strong criticism too
from a former brexit minister. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
All we hear day after day are
conflicting, confusing voices. If | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
this continues and Ministers cannot
agree amongst themselves on the | 0:02:27 | 0:02:34 | |
future relationship the Government
wants, how can this Prime Minister | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
possibly negotiate a clear, precise
set of terms with the future | 0:02:37 | 0:02:45 | |
relationship of the EU? My fear is
that we will get meaningless waffle | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
in a political decoration in
October. The implementation period | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
will not be a bridge to a clear
destination, but a gang plank into | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
thin air. At this pivotal moment in
our history, we cannot, we must not | 0:03:00 | 0:03:06 | |
indulge in that very British habit
of just muddling through. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
A former Ukip leader said
he supported the Bill, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
but thought the Government needed
to change tack on the | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Brexit negotiations. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
They should sit the Eurocrats down
and tell them we have done our best | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
to make clauses to defy the Article
50 work. They have abused our trust, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
and we see no future in going on
like this. So we are unilaterally | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
taking back our law, our borders,
fisheries, agriculture is and so on, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
but we will also be generous. We
will give them wide mutual | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
residence. We will allow them to
continue in free trade with us. We | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
will go on helping them with
security, and then we will decide, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
but might not -- my lord, how much
cash will give them, which may be | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
nothing after March 29 next year if
they do not behave themselves and | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
fall into the above. It remains
government policy to Brexit, we will | 0:03:59 | 0:04:06 | |
strengthen our democracy, protecting
all those in its process. In its | 0:04:06 | 0:04:12 | |
current process -- form, this build
will fail on all those aims, and | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
sadly the gaps in the Bill will
leave the environment is the biggest | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
casualty. As things stand, both
government and opposition parties | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
are finding it hard to agree on a
Way forward. So a referendum on a | 0:04:23 | 0:04:30 | |
new question about the future
relationship may become unavoidable. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
Although this is not something we
should be voting at this stage. I | 0:04:36 | 0:04:43 | |
know it my duty is, and it is to
bring to the attention of the other | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
house the manifest defects which
exist in this legislation. We may | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
not make them any wiser, my lords,
but if we do it properly with this | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
bill, we will make them better
informed. Heavens knows they need | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
it. The door to the studio of your
lordships House is very clear. That | 0:05:03 | 0:05:09 | |
duty, I submit, is to assert our
rights to scrutinise, to amend, and | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
if needs be, to reject unacceptable
parts of this bill, and to use the | 0:05:15 | 0:05:21 | |
entire arsenal of our powers and
prerogatives to limit the damage | 0:05:21 | 0:05:28 | |
that threatens the sovereignty of
Parliament and the national | 0:05:28 | 0:05:35 | |
interest. I cannot believe it is in
the national interest to get onto | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
such a referendum merry-go-round.
Whatever point of view we fought for | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
in the referendum campaign, we could
have made a success of the United | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
Kingdom in the European Union. And
we can make a success with sunk | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
costs and a people of being outside
the European Union, but we cannot | 0:05:52 | 0:05:58 | |
possibly make a success at being in
a national state of bewilderment | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
about when we're going to have
another referendum, and which | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
direction we're going in. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
Well at the end of that, Lord Adonis
didn't press his motion to the vote, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
and the Bill passed its second
reading, it will begin | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
detailed scrutiny in
the Lords later this month. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
MPs have backed a call
for Parliament to move out | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
of the Palace of Westminster,
while billions of pounds | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
of repairs are carried out. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
The building is part
of a World Heritage site, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
but there are problems
with asbestos, wiring, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
pipes, and plumbing. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
The thorny problem of how to carry
out the repairs has been | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
looked out over the years,
with three options being put | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
forward, moving out altogether,
moving one chamber out at a time | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
and staying put for the work to be
carried out around Mps and peers. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
The three options
carry correspondingly | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
increasing price tags! | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Opening a debate the Leader
of the Commons presented Mps | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
with two two motions,
one of which suggested a further | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
review delaying any decision
for a further four years, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
and a second suggesting the setting
up of a delivery authority as soon | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
as possible to look at the options
again and fully cost them. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:09 | |
Andrea Leadsom said she'd approach
the question of restoration | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
with a healthy degree of scepticism. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
I, like many, felt that the case for
a major restoration programme had | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
probably been overstated, and that
the powers look fine to me, and we | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
would be able to continue to patch
and mend as we went a long, as we | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
have done for many, many decades.
However, Mr Speaker, during my seven | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
months in the job, I have, as they
say, gone on a journey. I have lived | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
and breathed this topic. I have
visited the basement and seen for | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
myself what our engineers are up
against. We must recognise that as | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
time passes without comprehensive
action, those risks only increase. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
Lu this work is necessary for
safety, that has been agreed by | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
everyone. We cannot delay, any delay
increases the costs. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
A Lib Dem dismissed the idea
of moving one chamber out at a time. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
Because the services do provide for
the whole of the House, and | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
therefore you cannot decant half the
building. When I look at his | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
building and the stunning
architecture, I see it as some sort | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
of sad metaphor for Brexit Britain,
dilapidated, falling to bits around | 0:08:22 | 0:08:30 | |
our ears, generally unloved, and in
need of a lot of attention and | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
support. Doesn't that just sum up
where this nation is? Mr Speaker... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:41 | |
My honourable cousin from Scotland,
it would take a crowbar and a root | 0:08:41 | 0:08:49 | |
of our through to wrestle this
place. He wasn't here! | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Recovering from that, Pete Wishart
said he favoured turning the palace | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
into a tourist attraction. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
A group of mps had put down
an amendment to the motion, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
propososing that all Mps and Peers
moving out altogether | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
while the work was carried out,
and calling for the proposed | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
delivery agency to oversee
the project to be set up | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
as soon as possible. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
One of the Mps behind that amendment
said trying to move out one chamber | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
at a time would double the cost
and risk of fire. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
The thought of cutting a sewer
system in half, or the electrics or | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
any other works does not make sense.
Because of the nature of the | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
building. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Well there then followed
a series of votes. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Unusually this was what's
known as a free vote, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
meaning that Mps didn't have
to follow a party line | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
but could vote however they wanted. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Mps backed the amendment calling
for both houses to move out | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
of the Palace while work was carried
out by 236 votes to 220. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:46 | |
There's no date set for when that
will happen, but during the debate, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Andrea Leadsom said MPs and peers
would not leave the Houses | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
of Parliament until
2025 at the earliest. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
Peers will have their say
in the next few days. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:04 | |
It was all change at
Prime Ministers questions. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Theresa May in China
pix The Prime Minister, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Theresa May was on a trip to China,
attempting to boost | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
trade and relations. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
As well as formal talks,
there was time for Mrs May | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and her husband to pay a visit
to a Peking Opera performance, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
for a little music and drama. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
Well, back in Westminster the lead
role at prime minster's | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
questions had been delegated
to the Cabinet Office Minister, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
David Lidington, who faced
the Shadow Foreign Secretary, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Emily Thornberry. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
The exchanges began with a little
bit of banter about the last time | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
the two had faced each other
across the despatch box. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:40 | |
Let me start by welcoming the
Minister back to his role, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
deputizing for the Prime Minister.
Last time he did so was in December, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
2016, when his party with 17 points
ahead in the polls, and he told the | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
House that the Labour Party was
correlated like the film mutiny on | 0:10:53 | 0:10:59 | |
the bounty, reshot by the team who
made carry-on. Well, what a | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
difference a year makes! It's a
delight to me to see the right | 0:11:03 | 0:11:10 | |
honourable Lady still in her place,
when no fewer than 97 members of her | 0:11:10 | 0:11:17 | |
front bench have either been sacked
or resigned since the opposition | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
took office. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Emily Thornberry asked
about the number of women | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
in Parliament. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
I am pleased my party has made
considerable progress, but I accept | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
that there is more to be done. I
hope that she will accept that we | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
have now had two women leaders and
prime Ministers, so they have a bit | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
of catching up to do. I have to say,
Mr Speaker, that if the party | 0:11:42 | 0:11:49 | |
opposite of so route of having a
female leader, why are so many of | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
them trying to get rid of her? And
why has she had to run away to China | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
to get away from them? She then
turned to the hundredth anniversary | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
of women winning the right to vote.
90 years ago, he was extended to all | 0:12:04 | 0:12:12 | |
women over 21, and almost 15 years
ago, it was extended to all men and | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
women over the age of 18. So can I
ask the Minister a simple question. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
How many more years do we have to
wait until the vote is extended to | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
everyone over 16? I have to say, I
am slightly baffled by the | 0:12:24 | 0:12:31 | |
honourable Lady's comments, when
compared to what her party did in | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
office. Because it was the last
labour government that raised the | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
legal age for buying cigarettes to
18, raised the age for selling | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
knives to 18, raised the age
divide... And raise the age for | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
using a sunbed for 18! There is no
logical objection to the vote, that | 0:12:51 | 0:12:59 | |
is why the Welsh Government
supported, that is why every single | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
political party in this House
supports it, except of course the | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
Conservative Party and the DUP. Once
again, joined in opposition to | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
change, they are not the coalition
of chaos, Mr Speaker, there are the | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
coalition of cavemen! The situation
we have here, Mr Speaker, with the | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
national voting age at 18, is one
that is followed by 26 out of the 27 | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
other members of the European Union.
By the United States, Canada, New | 0:13:26 | 0:13:32 | |
Zealand, and Australia. Unless she
is going to denounce all of those | 0:13:32 | 0:13:40 | |
countries as somehow inadequate to
her own particular standards, then | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
quite honestly, Mr Speaker, she
ought to grow up and try to treat | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
this subject with a great deal of
seriousness. Let me read you this | 0:13:49 | 0:14:16 | |
from one of the residents affected.
This is an eyewitness statement. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:23 | |
Stranger standing and other ends of
the Street firing fireworks as if | 0:14:23 | 0:14:29 | |
they were guns. Pointing at each
other. I saw one young child being | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
hit in the head by fireworks,
fortunately it did not explode it | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
had it exploded it would've resulted
in some serious burns. In the debate | 0:14:40 | 0:14:46 | |
in the comments, MP 's call for an
end to car park charges and | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
hospitals in England. It's estimated
that its cost visitors hundreds of | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
thousands of pounds each are. No one
goes to the hospital by choice, no | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
one chooses to be ill, we rely on
doctors and nurses to look after us | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
and we urge the Minister who is here
today to take urgent action to end | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
this social injustice once and for
all. The Government has rejected | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
claims that there are calls to
fluoride to be added to water | 0:15:14 | 0:15:31 | |
The Government has rejected
claims that dental care | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Mps held a debate on the next
phase of high speed rail, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
extending the route
from the West Midlands to Crewe. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
But a Conservative rejected the idea
that the line would provide | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
an alternative to flying to Europe. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and patients pay more and more. I'm
afraid I do not recognise the | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
picture didn't honourable lady has
painted. That figure is increasing | 0:15:50 | 0:16:00 | |
over the last ten years. I should
also point out that there are more | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
dentists practising in the NHS than
ever. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:15 | |
Michael Fabricant said his
constituents would still have | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
to trek across birmingham
to change trains. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
A local councillor had timed
how long it would take. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
in England is in crisis. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:38 | |
It it took him... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:47 | |
A Government Minister dramatically
resigned in the House | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Lord Bates apologised
to for what he described | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
of Lords after arriving late
for question time. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
as his 'discourtesy'. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
We should always rise to the highest
standards of courtesy and respect. I | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
am thoroughly ashamed that not being
in my place and therefore I shall be | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
offering my resignation to the Prime
Minister. With immediate effect. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
Lord Bates immediately
walked out of the chamber. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Downing Street later said
the Prime Minster had refused | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
to accept his resignation. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Well, while we're on the subject
of apologies, a Brexit Minister | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
apologised to the Mps
following comments he made | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
at question time on Thursday. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
A Conservative Mp suggested
to Steve Baker that Treasury | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
officials were trying to influence
policy with negative | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
economic projections. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:44 | |
Will my right honourable friend
confirmed that he heard said from | 0:17:44 | 0:17:50 | |
Central European research that
officials in treasury deliberately | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
developed a model to share that all
options and status remaining in view | 0:17:52 | 0:18:03 | |
commissions were banned... I am
sorry to say to my honourable | 0:18:03 | 0:18:10 | |
colleague is essentially correct.
Civil service are extraordinarily | 0:18:10 | 0:18:19 | |
careful to uphold the impartiality
of the civil service. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Well, overnight audio
of what Charles Grant, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
the director of the Centre | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
for European Research
had said was released, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
and first thing Friday,
Steve Baker came to the Commons | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
to accept he'd got it wrong. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:36 | |
Yesterday I answered the question to
the best of my recollection. I'm the | 0:18:36 | 0:18:47 | |
audio of that conversation is now
available and I am glad the record | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
stands corrected. In the context of
that audio, I accept that I | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
should've corrected or dismissed the
premise of by honourable friend's | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
question. I have apologised to Mr
Charles Grant who is an honest and | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
trustworthy man. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
CLIP HOC FRIDAY And he repeated
he had the highest regard for hard | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
working civil servants. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
Now let's go back to
Prime Minister's Questions, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
where the SNP's Westminster leader
turned his attention to Brexit. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:20 | |
This is a government in crisis, I'd
international embarrassment. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:26 | |
Chancellor the Scottish circuit
Drake, Scottish Conservatives, are | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
all supporters of the SIngle Market.
Despite this, the Government is | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
still prepared to make everyone...
Where is the leadership? The most | 0:19:36 | 0:19:45 | |
important SIngle Market to the
people of Scotland is the SIngle | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Market of the United Kingdom. It is
worth nearly £50 million to the | 0:19:49 | 0:20:00 | |
Scottish economy, four times more
than trade with the EU. It is our | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
deep and special partnership with
the EU, that will help deliver | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
prosperity to Scotland, now the
separatist agenda pursued by | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Scottish... | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
The BBC's Carrie Gracie has told MPs
she is 'very angry' at the way | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
that the response to her grievance
was insulting, but women further | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
the Corporation has treated some
female members of staff. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Carrie Gracie resigned
as China Editor, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
citing pay inequalities
with male colleagues. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
The BBC said there was 'no systemic
discrimination against women'. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
She told the Culture
and Media Committee | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
admitted she was the victim
of pay discrimination. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
down the organisation
were suffering more. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
If the BBC cannot sort it out for
me, a single person to 55 and a | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
powerful position, how can it sorted
out for more vulnerable people | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
without a public profile, that is my
concern. Being in conflict, the | 0:20:56 | 0:21:05 | |
delays, the opacity and the
belittling of the work, that is what | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
has to happen if you are not willing
to concede, the are going to have to | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
crush your self-esteem about your
work. That is very painful. I found | 0:21:15 | 0:21:24 | |
all of that really hard and I really
did, getting upset now, I felt very | 0:21:24 | 0:21:39 | |
angry, I really feel about some of
the things I've seen and heard, and | 0:21:39 | 0:21:47 | |
some of the women's's suffering that
has come through. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
As regards her own case,
Carrie Gracie said the BBC had not | 0:21:51 | 0:21:59 | |
To me it sounds like a tacit
admission that it is pay | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
discrimination, and want to pay
£100,000 in back pay. But what is | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
unacceptable to me, I just don't
know why they do this. They | 0:22:11 | 0:22:20 | |
basically said, if these three
previous years that I was in | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
development. It is an insult to add
to the original injury. It is | 0:22:25 | 0:22:36 | |
unacceptable to talk to your senior
women like that. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
And the next witness
was the Director General, Tony Hall. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Finally, Mps were all
of a on Wednesday | 0:22:41 | 0:22:49 | |
The ad services that's wrong. What
we are doing going forward, we want | 0:22:49 | 0:22:56 | |
to make sure that we keep these
things regularly under review, so we | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
don't get to the point between the
gap top paid editor and is | 0:23:01 | 0:23:13 | |
unjustifiable. Do you agree with me
that the BBC has paid less to women | 0:23:13 | 0:23:22 | |
who work on equal... ? The answer is
that might be individual cases, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:31 | |
where if that is the case we will
solve them. I don't believe that the | 0:23:31 | 0:23:40 | |
BBC is an organisation, that we will
pay a woman less to do that job. To | 0:23:40 | 0:23:50 | |
go back to the case of Carrie, she
was being paid less, I have said | 0:23:50 | 0:23:59 | |
already that the grievance and the
mistakes procedure, I accept were | 0:23:59 | 0:24:07 | |
wrong and I am sorry about that.
That was a big failure of | 0:24:07 | 0:24:18 | |
management, there was no system in
place. There is no failure of | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
management, management is always
about learning and listening, things | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
are never right, you have to report
-- reform terms and could dishes two | 0:24:27 | 0:24:36 | |
years ago, at the same time we
looked at the same issue, paying top | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
talent because we knew we had to get
things right. It has taken a long | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
time and this committee has heard
today, it's a very complicated | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
issue. Don't underestimate our
desire to get this right. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
Finally, Mps were all
of a on Wednesday | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
A robin had found its way
into the chamber and swooped | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
across the ceiling during Welsh
questions at the start of the day. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
It was still roosting in the chamber
during Prime Minister's Questions, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
the SNP's Westminster leader saw
an opportunity to make a quick joke | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
joke about David Lidington's
possible leadership ambitions. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:18 | |
I wonder if he's... | 0:25:21 | 0:25:30 | |
Or perhaps he could
put it on Twitter. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
And that's it from me for now but do
join Keith Macdougall on BBC | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Parliament on Monday night
at 11pm for a full round up | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
of the day in Westminster. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
But for now, from me,
Alicia McCarthy, goodbye! | 0:25:39 | 0:25:49 |