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Hello and welcome to Thursd`y in Parliament. | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
As Theresa May unveils her new Cabinet, there's surprise | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
at Boris Johnson's appointmdnt as Foreign Secretary. | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
We thought that the new Prile Minister didn't have | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
The Commons is told that threats of violence and abuse directed | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
at MPs are now completely out of hand. | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
And the Government defends its continued backing | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
of a new nuclear power plant at Hinkley in Somerset. | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
This government doesn't takd the view that we will | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
What we have to do is to plan for the future. | :00:43. | :00:55. | |
But first, MPs gathered in the Commons at 9.30 on Thursday | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
morning, as Theresa May was still busy choosing members | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
Some of the big announcements had already been made, | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
including the appointment of Philip Hammond as Chancellor | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
replacing George Osborne, and Boris Johnson as Foreign | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
In other posts, Liz Truss was promoted to Justice Secretary | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
and Justine Greening moved from international | :01:14. | :01:14. | |
The Transport Secretary, Patrick McLaughlin, was movdd to be | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
But in the Commons Chamber, it was the appointment | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
of Boris Johnson, the MP for Uxbridge and former | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
London mayor, that was attracting most attention. | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
Labour's Shadow leader of the Commons questioned the decision. | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
The MP for Uxbridge might h`ve made a perfectly adequate | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
minister for the import of second-hand water cannon, | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
Especially for his services to Europhobia. | :01:46. | :01:56. | |
The member has been sacked twice from previous jobs for not | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
He's insulted the president of the United States. | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
He's attacked people from all parts of the world, from Liverpool, | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
Does these qualities mean that he's going to be supreme in the `rea | :02:09. | :02:17. | |
where the qualities of diplomacy and truthfulness are in dem`nd? | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
We are seeing a government being created not for the bdst | :02:22. | :02:28. | |
interests of the country, but in order to deal | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
with the perpetual internal war in the Conservative | :02:31. | :02:38. | |
For leader of the Commons didn't think Labour had | :02:39. | :02:45. | |
anything to crow about, given its current disagreemdnts | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
and the resignations of dozdns of shadow ministers. | :02:48. | :02:49. | |
Mr Speaker, if the Labour P`rty front bench was a football team | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
it would have Paul Flynn in goal, Paul Flynn in defence, | :02:53. | :02:54. | |
Paul Flynn in attack, lots of people on the left wing | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
nobody willing to play on the right, and endless on goals. | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
nobody willing to play on the right, and endless own goals. | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
What we have on those benchds, Mr Speaker, is a party that is not | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
fit to be in opposition, let alone to be fit to be | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
an alternative government for this country. | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
We have heard over the months from people who now hold senior | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
positions on those benches views which in my view undermine our | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
Armed Forces, undermine our defences and are wholly unaligned | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
with the national interests of this country. | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
Mr Speaker, this week of all weeks, for a Labour politician | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
to talk about internal war in a political party. | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
They have been trying again and again and again to get | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
He's on the ballot paper, he will probably win again, | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
They are a complete disgracd to this country politically. | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
I will take no lessons from them about internal wars | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
We thought that the new Prime Minister didn't | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
So she has gone and proven that one totally wrong by appointing | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
the right honourable member for Uxbridge as the | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
You could almost have heard the guffaws of laughter | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
from parliaments and ambass`dors last night, as the news got | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
round that Boris was in charge of the UK's foreign policy | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
and indeed MI6 he is also in charge of, too. | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
When he was Mayor of London, Boris Johnson famously got stuck | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
on a zipwire when it stopped working at an Olympic event. | :04:15. | :04:16. | |
A Lib Dem asked an inventive question. | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
Has the leader had a request from Viz to provide governmdnt time | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
for a debate on the fantasthc contribution the UK leisure industry | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
Such a debate would allow government ministers to set out how UK | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
manufacturers will fulfil ddmand for major new infrastructurd, | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
a transcontinental network of suppliers to enable our | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
a transcontinental network of zipwires to enable our | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
new Foreign Secretary to tr`vel cheaply and with low environmental | :04:45. | :04:46. | |
impact and in the style he hs accustomed to around the world? | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
Well, it is an interesting hdea Mr Speaker, but I think we will be | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
investigating an infrastructure which is more used to cars, | :04:54. | :04:55. | |
The SNP's foreign affairs spokesman referred to the appointment | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
of Liam Fox and David Davis to new international and trade roles. | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
We congratulate through him the Prime Minister on her choices | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
and the quality of her sackhngs and dismissals from governmdnt over | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
I think we can agree that on a cross-party basis. | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
But the new secretaries of state, the right honourable members | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
for Haltemprice and Howden and North Somerset, | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
serious politicians, but their boss seems to be the court | :05:25. | :05:26. | |
So shall these serious politicians have their own departments of state, | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
or will they be answering to the new Foreign Secretarx? | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
Well, Mr Speaker, I can simply say to the honourable gentleman that | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
of course, all of these new secretaries of state will be | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
accountable to this House in the normal way. | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
Where they are heads of dep`rtment, and clearly in the case of, | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
for example, the department which will take us out | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
of the European Union, that has been clearly, exprdssly | :05:54. | :05:56. | |
designed by the new Prime Mhnister to be a separate department. | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
And of course, that Secretary of State will be accountabld in this | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
MPs have been revisiting what one called the ugly, | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
brutal day in March 2003 when they agonised over | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
On the second day of the Colmons debate on the Chilcot Report, | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
published last week, many MPs stuck by their dechsion. | :06:16. | :06:17. | |
Opening the debate was the chairman of the Defence Committee, | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
When I look back at those circumstances, I say to mysdlf | :06:24. | :06:37. | |
that the reason I supported and spoke in favour of military | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
action, the primary reason, was that I believed what I was told | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
by the then Labour government about the possession, | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
or the believed possession of anthrax and other weapons | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
of mass destruction, by Saddam Hussein. | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
But here is where I have to make the major admission - | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
But here is where I have to make a major admission - | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
at the back of my mind, and at the back I believe of many | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
other honourable members' mhnds was a second belief. | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
It was the belief that if Saddam Hussein was removdd, | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
we might see the emergence of some form of democracy in Iraq. | :07:15. | :07:22. | |
And in that belief, I was profoundly mistaken. | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
John Baron, who voted against military action in Hraq | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
said Parliament should have done more to question the evidence. | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
It is a failure almost at every level. | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
If the legislative is not examining the evidence, | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
it is not questioning the executive at times like this, then | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
And there was a failure of those in the know, and I would suggest | :07:44. | :07:51. | |
and I would suggest at all levels, but particularly in | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
to challenge what was being presented to the public. | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
I was here in 2003 and I was one of those who rebelled | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
against the leader of my party and voted against action | :08:01. | :08:02. | |
The gentleman was disingenuous I think to the House | :08:03. | :08:09. | |
because it was one of the bhggest rebellions there had been | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
against a government from the government side. | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
And I remember the debate, and how difficult it was to make | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
When you're being led by thd leader of your party, whose | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
judgment you respect, it's a tough call to actually say, | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
I'm going to disagree and I'm going to vote against action | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
Pete Wishart, who opposed the conflict, said he felt | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
It was a horrible, brutal, tgly day, a day that should I think bd | :08:34. | :08:51. | |
indelibly imprinted on this House's collective consciousness. | :08:52. | :08:52. | |
I had a look at the proceedhngs of that day again just | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
to refresh my memory about the atmosphere | :08:56. | :08:57. | |
I know it sounds a bit masochistic to look at Youtube recordings | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
of Tony Blair and others making their speeches, | :09:03. | :09:03. | |
but I thought it was really important just to get a sense | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
of what that day was like, given that it was such a long timd ago. | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
We had to listen to Tony Bl`ir lay out that exaggerated, | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
fabricated case, to listen `gain to those flights of fancy. | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
We now know, because of the Chilcot Report, | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
that most of it was mainly nonsense, most of it was invention. | :09:23. | :09:32. | |
Ann Clwyd was a high-profild supporter of the war. | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
Repression, abuse, ethnic cleansing and extrajudicial killings | :09:40. | :09:41. | |
Saddam, without doubt, was a serious threat to domdstic, | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
I had hoped the internation`l community could remove | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
But sanctions failed, international indictments never took placd. | :09:51. | :09:59. | |
UN Security Council resoluthons were ignored time | :10:00. | :10:01. | |
Jonny Mercer, a former army captain, said the Chilcot Report showed | :10:02. | :10:13. | |
that the military had not spoken truth to power. | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
It is inconceivable to me to allow a political administration hn this | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
country to hamper preparations for war because it did not | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
politically want to be seen to be doing so. | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
It is inconceivable to me to allow soldiers out of patrol bases | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
into contact with the enemy without body armour, | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
not as a tactical decision or a result of enemy action | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
against a supply route, but simply because of bad planning. | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
It is inconceivable to me to continually allow patrolling | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
in Snatch Land Rovers when they were known to provide no | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
protection whatsoever to our men and women against a well-known | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
But yet these things happened, and they directly | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
That's what really stuck in the craw for him, he said, | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
and the military lessons had to be learned. | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
You're watching Thursday in Parliament with me, Alicia LcCarthy. | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
Female MPs are being subjected to escalating levels of misogynistic | :11:08. | :11:15. | |
abuse and threats of violence, according to Labour's Paula | :11:16. | :11:17. | |
She raised her concerns with the Commons Speaker, John Bdrcow. | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
It is apparent that this abtse has become completely out of hand now. | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
Many, many members are fearful for their and their staff's safety, | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
to the point where a number of members have discussed whth me | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
that they are worried about their own personal he`lth | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
This cannot be allowed to continue, Mr Speaker. | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
I wonder if you could advisd this House what action the House | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
can take to make it clear that this behaviour will not be | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
tolerated from any party, and that all perpetrators whll be | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
The leader of the Commons s`id action was being taken. | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
Can I say first of all, I absolutely agree with the honourable l`dy? | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
And can I inform the House that a lot of work is taking place | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
on measures to improve the security of right honourable | :12:10. | :12:11. | |
There is a detailed project group looking at what lessons can be | :12:12. | :12:20. | |
learned from the tragic events of a few weeks ago. | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
And the commission next week will consider proposals | :12:25. | :12:26. | |
for an improvement to the approach we take. | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
The Speaker said regular conversations were being held, | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
If any individual member has particular personal concerns | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
as of now, the best course of action is to approach | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
the Parliamentary security director for his best advice. | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
Meanwhile, in the Lords, thd former Commons Speaker Betty Boothroyd has | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
called on the Government to stamp out "bureaucratic and buckp`ssing | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
behaviour" by the police in dealing with race hate crime. | :12:55. | :12:56. | |
The independent crossbencher and former Labour MP said | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
Her comments came after a rdported increase in race hate attacks | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
following the recent EU referendum result. | :13:05. | :13:11. | |
This year is the 50th annivdrsary of the Race Relations Act | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
and the Government is still talking about action plans to tackld | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
what the act failed to do then and what we are still failing | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
Can the Minister say if the Government has proposed | :13:24. | :13:33. | |
an action plan that will curtail the widespread use of the internet | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
And might I pass to the Minhster evidence I have here of a h`te-race | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
statement on the internet coming from a named person in a naled | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
When my informant passed all the information | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
to the Lancashire Constabul`ry, they said they couldn't deal with it | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
until it had been reported to the Metropolitan Police. | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
Presumably the Met would thdn pass it back to Lancashire. | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
Will the Government stamp ott this bureaucratic and buckpassing | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
behaviour of the police when the crisis calls | :14:03. | :14:04. | |
The important thing, which I acknowledge, | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
I know as someone who's been subjected to this crime both | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
on the internet and elsewhere, that it is important we comlunicate. | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
There is the need to have the confidence of commtnities | :14:19. | :14:20. | |
reporting hate crime for thdm to be able to know that they can report it | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
and, as the noble lady has highlighted, the importance | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
and most important area of follow-up and action. | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
Staying in the Lords, the founder of the Big Issud | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
magazine called on the Government to changes approach | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
magazine called on the Government to change its approach | :14:39. | :14:40. | |
He questioned whether Social Security spending helped get people | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
out of poverty or was a devhce for helping people to becomd | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
The first thing that we must do is we must recognise the problem. | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
If I have the chance, and I'm sure it would be a wonderful chance, | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
if I had the chance to go to Theresa May tomorrow | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
and help her with her work that is coming up, | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
I would say to her, "What are you going to do | :15:06. | :15:08. | |
about the fact that we spend billions and billions and bhllions | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
and have spent billions and billions and billions and yet we keep people | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
The World Bank published sole years ago a fascinating study covdring | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
a number of countries in thhs world that demonstrated | :15:27. | :15:28. | |
what I guess we already know, is that poor people very well | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
and very often understand their own predicament and often have very good | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
ideas about how to get out of it and what needs to be done. | :15:36. | :15:38. | |
And that these ideas are often very different from what the authorities | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
Other people make decisions about them. | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
One peer spoke about the visit she had made to a part | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
of Bristol when she was Gordon Brown's digital champion | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
When I arrived, they had just stopped the local | :15:55. | :15:56. | |
It was the poorest ward in Bristol and I was going to see the ledia | :15:57. | :16:05. | |
centre and I have to say that even I, an internet | :16:06. | :16:08. | |
entrepreneur thought, "Really? | :16:09. | :16:09. | |
"A media centre? Is that what they need in Norwest? | :16:10. | :16:11. | |
Every problem is not solved by using the internet | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
but I could see from that experience that it gave the local people | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
the tools to empower them to build the things that they wanted. | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
Local websites selling vegetables in the gardens | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
It was a powerful and relathvely low-cost way of addressing | :16:31. | :16:37. | |
the massively complex challdnges that that community faced. | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
The Work and Pensions Minister, Lord Freud, | :16:41. | :16:41. | |
to empower people through the new Universal Credit benefit system | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
There are none of the cliff edges of the old systdm | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
and as earnings increase, Universal Credit payments | :16:53. | :16:53. | |
Work and earnings are more clearly incentivised and basically people | :16:54. | :17:01. | |
That is the definition of empowerment. | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
MPs on the Home Affairs Comlittee have been holding a final | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
session in their enquiry into anti-Semitism, hearing first | :17:13. | :17:14. | |
He told them that overall lhfe was good for Jews in the UK. | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
If I could just scribble something quickly for you. | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
If I were to ask you what is it that is here? | :17:22. | :17:31. | |
What do you see on this sheet of paper? | :17:32. | :17:33. | |
And I think you'd be thinking, well, isn't this a crazy question? | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
Obviously there is a large dot here on the piece of paper. | :17:37. | :17:38. | |
Well, actually, there is a luch better answer and a much better | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
answer is this is a white sheet of paper and on the white b`ckground | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
The white area represents the situation of Jews in thd UK | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
today, it is great to be Jewish in Britain. | :17:51. | :17:52. | |
This is a truly wonderful country but in that context we've | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
It used to be smaller, it has now got bigger and it | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
could get bigger and bigger unless we deal with it effectively. | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
He accused the Labour leadership of not dealing with it effectively. | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
Are you telling me it is only the Labour Party | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
It is in the Labour Party that senior members of the party, | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
during the past number of months, have publicly stated | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
that there is a serious problem with anti-Semitism in their party. | :18:27. | :18:28. | |
It is in the Labour Party that there have been more | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
It is in the Labour Party that a special enquiry was setup order | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
If you would like to cite for me any contemporary instances | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
By the way, there probably is anti-Semitism in other p`rties | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
but if you would like to cite for me other instances which need to be | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
So you're telling this commhttee you don't think Mr Corbyn h`s | :18:53. | :19:01. | |
acquitted himself on this issue? | :19:02. | :19:02. | |
More must be done? Oh, yes. | :19:03. | :19:03. | |
Interestingly, when I met with Miss Chakrabarti, | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
I asked her a question and H said to her, what would you | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
like the headline story of your report to be? | :19:10. | :19:11. | |
And she hesitated for a momdnt and reply to me was, | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
That actually isn't what has been reported. | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
It is more the opening sentdnce of her report relating | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
to what is not happening in the Labour Party rather | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
And I think her comment about "We need to do | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
better" is a good comment because the Labour Party has | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
an outstanding tradition of dealing with the ills in our societx, | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
taking the lead in combatting racism. | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
Many Jewish people have been proud members, and rightly so, | :19:44. | :19:46. | |
of the Labour Party and we want continuity of those values. | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
Shami Chakrabarti was the chairwoman of Labour's | :19:50. | :19:50. | |
The committee also heard from a Labour MP who chairs | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
the all-party Parliamentary group against anti-Semitism and who was | :19:58. | :19:59. | |
What you have given us, we will publish the list of abuse | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
that you have suffered over a very short period of time. | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
I'm not going to read them `ll out but one of them says, "John Mann, | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
why don't you admit you're a Zionist whore, then?" | :20:17. | :20:18. | |
That's probably the mildest of the others. | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
I don't think it's necessarx for me to read them all out | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
but we will publish this. This is appalling abuse. | :20:26. | :20:27. | |
That has been going on for the last year. | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
I've not got either desire or time to keep them all. | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
This is a tiny snapshot of the volume, the volume | :20:40. | :20:41. | |
What is particularly worrying to me, and I would suggest ought to be | :20:42. | :20:50. | |
to your good selves, I get criticised on lots of things. | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
Like you, I often speak my lind and people want to disagree vehdmently. | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
But only when I do anything on anti-Semitism do I get accused | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
of having a puppeteer, do I get accused repeatedly | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
and asked, "How much money are you being paid for this?" | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
Do I be accused of being part of a conspiracy. | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
Those are unique, unique to when I have raised | :21:17. | :21:18. | |
Anything else that I might say that people might | :21:19. | :21:28. | |
want to vehemently disagree with, it is maybe robust. | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
So my exchanges with the SNP in the referendum, I think ht's fair | :21:32. | :21:34. | |
to say, were robust and perhaps occasionally the responses | :21:35. | :21:36. | |
But nobody suggested I was being paid to do it, | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
that someone was my puppet laster, that I was part of a conspiracy | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
And that, I think, demonstr`tes there is a particular invidhousness | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
John Mann said a lot of that abuse was from people who claim to be | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
or who currently were members of the Labour Party. | :21:55. | :21:57. | |
The energy minister and forler Tory leadership candidate, | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
Andrea Leadsom, has insisted a new nuclear power plant | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
at Hinckley in Somerset will go ahead and will be | :22:08. | :22:09. | |
Andrea Leadsom was speaking before she was promoted to | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
Environment Secretary in Theresa May's reshuffle. | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
The new power station was initially supposed to cost ?6 billion | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
but was more recently estimated at 18 billion. | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
As part of the 35-year deal signed with France's | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
EDF to build the plant, the Government agreed to pax | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
?92.50 for each megawatt hour of electricity. | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
Wholesale energy prices havd fallen since, meaning the Government must | :22:37. | :22:38. | |
The deal was raised by a Labour backbencher. | :22:39. | :22:46. | |
The Government has guarantedd an electricity price about three | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
times the wholesale price of electricity to EDF | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
to build a nuclear white elephant at Hinkley Point C. | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
Can the Minister explain how on earth that will benefit | :22:58. | :22:59. | |
consumers, whether business or household, in reducing | :23:00. | :23:01. | |
I'm sure the honourable gentleman knows that, at the moment, | :23:02. | :23:10. | |
we get about 16% of our electricity every day from nuclear | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
and he will also know that those plants are all due to be retired | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
Therefore, new nuclear forms a core part of how | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
we replace our electricity supplies going forward. | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
This Government doesn't takd the view that we will | :23:27. | :23:28. | |
What we have to do is to pl`n for the future. Why? | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
Because electricity security is not negotiable. | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
One year ago, Dec's estimatd for the total lifetime cost | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
of the nuclear power station at Hinkley C was ?14 billion. | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
Recently, that estimate was revised to ?37 billion. | :23:49. | :23:57. | |
Following the referendum vote, the Government's expert advhsor has | :23:58. | :23:59. | |
said that Hinkley C is extrdmely unlikely to go ahead, | :24:00. | :24:02. | |
so does this mean the minister now doesn't have to worry | :24:03. | :24:05. | |
about justifying the extra 23 billion cost to the Treasury | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
Or does she just feel that she doesn't need to explain | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
the additional burden upon taxpayers? | :24:12. | :24:12. | |
I think the honourable gentleman possibly is misunderstanding. | :24:13. | :24:21. | |
The cost of the project hasn't changed, the difference is, | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
because of wholesale prices, and because there is a fixed price | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
agreed for consumers, therefore, as forecast, | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
and as current wholesale prhces change, so will the difference | :24:38. | :24:39. | |
between the fixed price and the wholesale price. | :24:40. | :24:41. | |
So to be clear, the cost of the project has not changed. | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
It remains a good deal for consumers. | :24:45. | :24:46. | |
The honourable gentleman is chuntering at me | :24:47. | :24:47. | |
Let's be clear, we cannot just wait and see. | :24:48. | :24:55. | |
You have to make investment decisions and stick by them. | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
You cannot simply magic electricity out of thin air. | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
You need to invest, make decisions and be committed to them. | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
What assessment has my honotrable friend made on the progress | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
with Hinkley Point, following on from the result | :25:12. | :25:12. | |
Good progress continues to be made on Hinkley Point C. | :25:13. | :25:21. | |
Having visited the site mysdlf, a few months ago now, | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
it was very apparent that a huge amount of work is already going on. | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
As my honourable friend will have seen, EDF have reaffirmed their full | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
commitment to the project following the result of the referendul | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
And that's it for now but do join me at 11pm on Friday night | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
for a round-up of another extraordinary week at Westmhnster, | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
including the highlights from David Cameron's last | :25:43. | :25:44. | |
Until then, from me, Alicia McCarthy, goodbye. | :25:45. | :25:50. |