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Hello and welcome to Thursday In Parliament, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
our look at the best of the day in the Commons and the Lords. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
On this programme: | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
The Commons Speaker thanks the Leader of the House for a moving | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
speech following the jailing of the man who murdered Jo Cox. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
The power and beauty of those words | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
clearly will resonate with all of us. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Peers calls for better sex and relationship | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
education in schools. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
The ignorance of the menstrual cycle and basic biology | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
is very, very striking. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
And why those mass walks through the division lobbies | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
in Parliament just have to stay. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
For members of the opposition, it gives an opportunity | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
for team-building, which is extremely important. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
But first, the Cabinet Minister, David Lidington, has made | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
a moving plea in the Commons for the country to come together | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
and turn its back on extremism, following the sentencing this week | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
of the man who murdered Jo Cox. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
On Wednesday, Thomas Mair was found guilty at the Old Bailey | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
of murdering the West Yorkshire Member of Parliament | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
in June this year. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
Evidence gathered by the police had shown Mair to be obsessed | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
with the Nazis and with ideas of white supremacy. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Mair was sent to prison for the rest of his life for the murder. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:37 | |
I hope we can all agree that perhaps the best tribute that we here, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:43 | |
whatever our party politics, can pay to Jo and her memory | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
is to recommit ourselves, whether as constituency members | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
or holders of various offices, to do all that lies within our power | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
to ensure that this country remains a place where people of different | 0:01:55 | 0:02:04 | |
ethnic origins and different faiths can live together in mutual respect, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:12 | |
goodwill and harmony, and can celebrate together | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
our common citizenship and our shared institutions | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
and values and traditions. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
And that we will also continue unflinchingly to stand for the truth | 0:02:26 | 0:02:34 | |
that it is through parliamentary democracy that we can seek to secure | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
change and find a better future for those who sent us here, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
rather than through violence or extremism. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
I thank the Leader of the House for what he has just said. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
The power and beauty of those words | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
clearly will resonate with all of us. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
And I'd like to thank MP4 for organising and playing | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
in memory of Jo Cox. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
The members for Cardiff West, East Yorkshire, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Perth and North Perthshire and Ian Cawsey, who is a former member, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
spent a lot of time last Thursday organising the song for Jo, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
which I think is coming out in January. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Her love, values and example lives on in all of us. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
Governments are not just about fixing the roof. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
We are about transforming lives. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Let us dedicate ourselves to that task in her memory. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:39 | |
Thomas Mair was heard to shout "Britain First!" | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
as he attacked Jo Cox. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Can we have a debate about whether Britain First | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
should be proscribed as a terrorist organisation | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
and banned from standing in democratic elections? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
I can't offer an immediate debate. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
As the honourable lady probably knows, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
the Home Office brings forward orders for the proscription | 0:03:59 | 0:04:06 | |
of particular organisations, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
but must do so on the basis of evidence. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
There have been cases in the past where organisations that have been | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
so proscribed have gone to the courts and successfully | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
won a judicial review to say that the evidence on which | 0:04:18 | 0:04:25 | |
that action had been taken was not sufficient. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
So I will make sure that her proposal is reported | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
to my right honourable friend, the Home Secretary, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
but there has to be clear evidence of terrorist involvement | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
for the terrorist proscription to be applied. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
David Lidington. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Former military chiefs say it's time | 0:04:48 | 0:04:49 | |
to shield British servicemen and women from what they call | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
unfounded and spurious claims of abuse. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
They object to the multiple legal claims | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
being lodged against the armed forces, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
claims that have arisen from conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
In a Lords debate, a former Chief of the Defence Staff, Lord Richard, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
urged the Government to opt out of human rights laws | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
in future conflicts. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
While a senior lawyer warned against retreating | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
from the UK's moral obligations. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
I am proud to have served the Queen and country. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
It now distresses me, as it plainly distresses | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
lots of others to see how today, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
often years after valiant service in conflicts abroad, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
our forces are subject to apparently endless claims | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
and allegations of misconduct. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:40 | |
Not only is this upsetting, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
it affects our nation's combat capabilities - | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
it damages morale, recruitment and indeed our fighting strength. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
Every service man and woman, of whatever rank, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
should not be exposed in operations to the fear of, let alone belated | 0:05:55 | 0:06:01 | |
mental trauma from contemporary legislation, even that which has | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
brought strength and validity to human rights protection. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
A leading QC recalled the case in 2002 of Baha Mousa, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:16 | |
an Iraqi who died while in the custody of British soldiers. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
The killing of Baha Mousa was a terrible, terrible | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
blot on our reputation. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
He was a man with a young family, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
found in the wrong place at the wrong time. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
He was a receptionist in a hotel. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
And he was beaten to death, unfortunately, by British forces. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:39 | |
Without the Human Rights Act, which forced the Government to hold | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
an enquiry, there would have been no investigation, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
no accountability and no justice. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
She said the UK should not retreat from its legal obligations. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
As a nation, we seek to uphold our values against | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
those intent on destroying them. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
If we compromise, we lose our moral standing and betray the trust | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
of those we seek to protect. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Hypocrisy doesn't win wars, and nor does it win hearts and minds. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
Another former army chief was highly critical of the Government. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
At the heart of the issue here is the willingness | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
of government ministers and officials to believe | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
the fallacious allegations of Iraqis and Afghanis, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
themselves manipulated by unscrupulous and commercially | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
driven lawyers, rather than to have confidence in the Armed Forces' | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
chain of command and the tried and tested process of investigation | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
and judicial disposal. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
We must be prepared to derogate | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
from the European Convention on Human Rights. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I applaud the Government's stated intention to do this, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
but I'm keen to see the details of their strategy. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
Like other noble Lords, I wish to know when and what | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
circumstances will it apply? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Is it automatic, or dependent on a parliamentary consensus that | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
may not be forthcoming on the day? | 0:07:58 | 0:07:59 | |
I think clarity on this issue now is vital. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Secondly, as the noble and learned Lord Brown proposes, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:08 | |
the Government should reassert the primacy of the Geneva Convention | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
in regulating and guiding the actions | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
of our Armed Forces in conflict. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
What we are not suggesting is that the Armed Forces | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
should somehow be freed from the constraints | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
of the rule of law. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
The degree of necessity and level of acceptable risk | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
are often difficult judgments. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
And, sometimes, those judgments will turn out, in hindsight, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:36 | |
to have been wrong. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
If the decisions were made negligently, then those | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
responsible for them should be called to account. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
And legal routes for doing so have long existed. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
But if every judgment is to be second-guessed at the courts, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
then the result will be caution and even risk aversion. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
History has amply demonstrated both of these tendencies are themselves | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
damaging and dangerous in the long run. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
The Defence Minister explained the Government's plan to derogate | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
from the European Convention on Human Rights. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Let me be clear here. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
There is no question of a blanket opt out from the ECHR. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
If and when a derogation is made, it could only be made from certain | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
articles of the convention, and it would have to be fully | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
justified by the circumstances pertaining at the time. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
Where justified, in the light of circumstances, it could serve | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
to limit some of the types of opportunistic ECHR-based claims | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
that we have seen and would reflect what we consider to be the right | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
balance between these rights and the law of armed conflict. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
And he said the armed forces were at all times subject to | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
the UK law and the Geneva Convention would still apply. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
Back in the Commons, there was a call for the Government | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
to reverse cutbacks in public health provision. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
The demand was made in a general debate by the chair | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
of the Health committee, the Conservative Dr Sarah Wollaston. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
She reminded MPs of Theresa May's pledge to reduce the gap | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
in life expectancy between the richest and the poorest. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
She said it was disappointing to see reductions in public health budgets. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
When we look at what is happening, in public health, we have seen | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
from a survey by the Association of Directors of Public Health, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
who surveyed their members in February this year, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
that what this is affecting, those cuts to public health budgets, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
is around areas like weight management, drugs, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
smoking cessation and alcohol. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
These are all key determinants that we need to tackle. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
In my own area, part of which covers Torbay, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
cuts to council budgets for public health of around ?345,000 | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
are resulting in the decommissioning of healthy lifestyle services. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
The future of substance misuse services is in jeopardy, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
when some local authorities are facing huge cuts | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
to public health budgets. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
With no actual statutory obligation to provide these services, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
and it is really something that we need to be addressing | 0:11:10 | 0:11:20 | |
when we're talking about health inequalities. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
Premature mortality rates are 20% higher in Scotland | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
than in England and Wales. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Even after deprivation is accounted for, and the premature mortality | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
rate in Glasgow is 30% higher than in equally deprived areas | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
like Liverpool and Manchester. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
The former has been dubbed the Scottish effect, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
the latter the Glasgow fact. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Both account for approximately 5,000 extra unexplained deaths | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
per year in Scotland. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
That's 5,000 people dying prematurely, dying needlessly | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
over and above normal inequalities and health. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:57 | |
In the UK, between 1.3 million and 2.5 million years of lives | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
are lost as a result of health inequality in England. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Many children never reach their potential | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
throughout their lives, and one of the reasons | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
is because of a lack of healthy relationships in their early years. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Relationship breakdown is a significant driver of poverty | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
and health inequality. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
A comprehensive cross Department or strategy to combat health | 0:12:15 | 0:12:22 | |
inequality must include measures to strengthen healthy | 0:12:22 | 0:12:28 | |
relationships and to combat relationship break down, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
which is at epidemic levels in our country. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Our dental and oral health has and continues to be | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
the Cinderella of Health Service provision in this country. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
It's seen as nice to have, something to be tackled | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
after the good ship NHS returns to calmer waters. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Only due to much-needed extra funding once the financial black | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
holes elsewhere in the NHS have been plucked. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Such inequality in dental and oral health is plain wrong. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
An unspoken injustice in today's society. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
Tackling it cannot and should not be, year after year, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
kicked down the road like the proverbial can. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
We must focus on key determinants | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
such as obesity, smoking, suicide and alcohol. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
This is the core business of the challenge we face. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
That is why we are working closely with our partners in the NHS, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
PHE, local government and schools to deliver | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
the childhood obesity plan. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
It has been raised by many today. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I would like to assure the House that delivery of this | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
plan has started. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:27 | |
We have consulted on the soft drink industry levy | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and launched a broader sugar reduction programme. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
These measures will have a positive impact on low income | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
groups in particular, who are disproportionately affected. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
The debate on health inequalities. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
You're watching our round-up of the day | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
in the Commons and the Lords. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Still to come. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
Should sex education be made compulsory in schools? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:58 | |
Labour's demanding to know what the Government's doing | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
to mitigate rising food prices in the wake of the UK's | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
decision to leave the EU. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
The fall in the value of the pound has made imports more expensive. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
At Environment Questions Labour said that was already having an impact | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
on the food industry and on shoppers. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
The pound has fallen, the cost of imports has risen. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Brexit is costing the wine industry 430 million more in imports alone. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
From Marmitegate to the Toblerone Gap we've had rising prices | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
across the food industry as customers are paying more | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
for food, while those working in farming and food production have | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
been hit even harder and it's getting worse. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
What is the Secretary of State is doing to mitigate against this? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:45 | |
The honourable lady will be aware that we have an incredibly thriving | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
food and farming sector that employs one in eight of us. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
It is worth over ?100 billion each year to our economy. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Our food innovation is second to none. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
We produce more new food products every year than France | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and Germany combined. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
Food inflation is low. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
It continues to be low. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
And we are seeing a very thriving sector improving with exports up | 0:15:08 | 0:15:15 | |
this year and we are doing everything we can to create | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
a sustainable environment for the future. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
The reality is food is inflating at 5%. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
This is on her watch, her responsibility, her crisis, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
and people are struggling now. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:35 | |
The call from the sector is that they need security. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Security of labour, security in the market, security in trade, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
security in knowing the plans for leaving the EU for the sector. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Labour can give confidence today to the sector. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
We have a clear plan so why will the Secretary of State | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
not share her plan? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
Is it because there isn't one? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Mr Speaker, that was rather nonsense, if I may say so. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
In fact food inflation, food prices have been dropping. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
They peaked in 2008. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Food prices do move up and down but the point that she is making | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
about the resilience of the food and drinks | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
sector, is extraordinary. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
Our exports this year are well up on last year. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
We are seeing booming growth in our food production sector. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
We are doing everything we can on food innovation, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
and getting young people into apprenticeships in increasingly | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
high technology jobs. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
This is a very well organised sector with great potential. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
Many of the agricultural workforce are a seasonal workforce from other | 0:16:30 | 0:16:37 | |
EU states who take advantage of the single market's | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
free movement policy. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Given this can the Minister provide a guarantee to rural | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
businesses in my constituency and beyond that these seasonal | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
workers who come to Scotland for produce picking and food | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
and fish processing will still be able to work | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
here after the UK has left the EU? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
My right honourable friends are aware of the issues. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
It is not an issue unique to her constituency and she will | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
recognise that this will be part of the ongoing discussions | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
within our Government and of course with the EU. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
The great British breakfast cereal Weetabix is made in the Kettering | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
constituency and the wheat in Weetabix is grown on farms | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
within a 15 mile radius. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
What proportion of the nation's food do we grow ourselves | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
and what proportion would the Minister like to | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
see us grow ourselves? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
The honourable gentleman will be aware that of the food that we can | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
produce in this country we produce around 74% of the food | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
that we consume. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
If you include foods that we are unable to grow | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
here clearly the percentage is slightly lower. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
But we have got a commitment to have a vibrant profitable | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
farming industry. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
We want to grow more, we want to sell more, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
and we want to import less. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
And if we achieve all of that we will see our | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
self-sufficiency improve over time. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
Food and drink production has flourished under my right honourable | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
friend's leadership. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
As we have just heard record levels of hard cheese and sour grapes | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
are emanating from that side of the chamber and in my own | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
constituency the Hogs Back Brewery, a successful microbrewery, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
is doing a roaring trade. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Can I invite my right honourable friend to join me for a knees up | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
in my brewery, something the other side of the House | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
could never organise? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
Yes, absolutely I'd be delighted to do that. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Some of the amazing products, taking gin out to the Chinese | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
for example was a great experience. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
Looking at the beers that the Vietnamese are drinking | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
from the United Kingdom already, looking at market access, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:43 | |
greater exports, seeing just yesterday a taste | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
of Cheltenham beers. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
And my right honourable friend is right to raise his own | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
constituents' produce and I would be delighted to share a knees | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
up with him any time. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
Andrea Leadsom - with the promise of a good night out. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
The issue of whether sex and relationship education should be | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
taught as a compulsory subject in secondary schools in England | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
continues to cause controversy. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
Last year the then Education Secretary Nicky Morgan turned down | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
the call of four Commons committees for the subject to be | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
given statutory status. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
A Labour peer put down a question asking if a Minister planned to make | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
it part of the national curriculum. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
She said in the three years up to 2015 5,500 sexual | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
offences were reported to the police by UK schools, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
and that was probably just the tip of the iceberg. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
With many boys learning about sex from online pornography and some | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
schools failing in their legal obligation to keep girls safe does | 0:19:33 | 0:19:43 | |
the noble lord the Minister agree with me there has to be a whole | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
school approach on a statutory basis | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
with Ofsted including this subject in its inspections? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
I agree entirely with the noble lady that it is unacceptable for pupils | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
to learn about sex from pornography rather than from an age appropriate | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
programme in schools. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
And the whole school approach is appropriate and of course Ofsted | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
do have a vital role to play. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
They take an interest in all school provision particularly how schools | 0:20:11 | 0:20:21 | |
are providing spiritual, moral and cultural development | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
for their pupils. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
He may be aware that in Scotland sex and relationship education is part | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
of the curriculum and every young person receives that entitlement. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Indeed there is a syllabus from key stage two right through. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Perhaps in his active review he might look at lessons that can be | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
learned from Scotland. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
What is absolutely shocking is the very few number of girls who, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
even though when ovulation occurs, the ignorance of the menstrual | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
cycle and basic biology is very, very striking. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Is this not another example of the narrowness of the curriculum | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
in schools which actually prevents a wider education generally | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
and which is very important in these matters? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
I am fully aware of the programme that the noble Lord refers | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
to at Imperial College and I know it is a very valued one by schools | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
who participate in it. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
I am a bit shocked to hear what he said. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Of course these matters should be taught in science. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
But clearly this is something that is unacceptable | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
and we need to look at further. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Does he agree it is important that education is not just to be | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
about sex and sexuality but sex and relationships, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
and should such education therefore include wholesome friendships | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
and relationships between the sexes, the importance, as we have already | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
discussed, of guarding against abuse and the vital need for young people | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
to have a healthy self identity? | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
On the last point I commend the work of the Bishop | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
of Gloucester on her work on body | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
image amongst children. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
The last time noble Lords had an opportunity to consider this | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
question was in February this year, a question from my noble | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
friend Baroness Massey, and on that occasion the Minister | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
replied, and I quote, We have asked leading headteachers | 0:21:58 | 0:22:08 | |
and practitioners to produce an action plan for improving PSHE. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
We will continue to keep the status of the subject under review and work | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
with those experts to identify further steps that we can take | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
to ensure, my emphasis, that all pupils receive high-quality | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
age-appropriate PSHE and sex and relationships education. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
My Lords, the Minister who gave that reply has since moved on. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Indeed she is now leader of your Lordships' House. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
But the question of PSHE has not moved on. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Can the noble Lord say firstly what happened to the action plan | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and secondly can he say how he plans to ensure that all schools | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
inform their pupils of the crucial issues involved in the subject | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
so that they are adequately prepared for adult life? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
What I have said and what I can say to the noble Lord | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
is I think our thinking has moved on somewhat further, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
which I think may please him and many peers present today | 0:22:50 | 0:22:57 | |
and I hope to make a statement about this shortly. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Lord Nash. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
The Ayes have it. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
The Ayes have it! | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
The famous phrase used by the Commons Speaker whenever | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
a vote in the chamber is decided. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
But do we need quite so much tradition when MPs | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
take part in votes? | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
At Westminster the politicians use the time-honoured method of walking | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
through what are called the division lobbies. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
It means a Commons vote can take a full 15 minutes. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Other parliaments use quicker, more modern systems, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
such as electronic voting, definitely a shorter process. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
An SNP MP said continuing to troop through division lobbies | 0:23:31 | 0:23:39 | |
wasn't terribly sensible. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
During the Higher Education Bill | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Report Stage on Monday we spent nearly an hour trooping | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
through the division lobbies. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
Has the commission ever made a calculation of the cost | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
to the taxpayer of that dead time in terms of staff, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
security and utilities? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
And if we are to be decanted as part of a restoration process surely that | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
presents an opportunity to at the very least | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
pilot electronic voting, as we're not going to replicate | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
every last detail of where we are now. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I thank him for those two questions, I think. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Just in terms of the time that it takes for members to vote, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
he may not be aware that, I think back in 1997, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
this House did consider substantial changes to the way we voted and I'm | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
afraid the House voted to keep things exactly as they were. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
In relation to the restoration and renewal issue, I do hope that | 0:24:22 | 0:24:29 | |
by perhaps early next year in this place we will have a substantive | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
debate on it and I think that would be the opportunity for him | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
to raise that particular point. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Does he agree the current system affords members an opportunity | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
to nobble ministers when they are bereft | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
of their heavies and spin doctors? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
Indeed it is true that when trooping through the division lobbies | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
there are opportunities to lobby ministers but clearly those | 0:24:54 | 0:25:01 | |
opportunities are more frequent for members of Government | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
than they are for members of the Opposition. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Does he not agree though that for members of the Opposition that | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
is an opportunity for team building which is extremely important. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
Will he do everything he can to keep this at the bottom of this in tray? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:22 | |
I thank the honourable lady for her intervention and of course | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
it gives me the opportunity to underline how important, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
particularly for her party, the opportunities for team building | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
in the lobby must be. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Tom Brake. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
And that's it. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
But do join me for the Week in Parliament, when we take a look | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
a move to try to stop election fraud and we take a reflective look at how | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
the Chancellor Philip Hammond performed in the Commons this week. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
But for now, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:55 |