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Should men be more open with their mental and physical health? We will

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be talking to Tom Urie about his weight and anxiety. And we will be

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speaking to an envious survivor who has come back to Glasgow to find her

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family. -- and abuse survivor. Welcome to Timeline. With a week to

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go to the general election, we will give you an alternative slant on the

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campaign with Elaine Malcolmson. And our dear Darwish, a television

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presenter making a new life in Edinburgh. It is difficult to learn

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the words, a vigil was held outside the opening

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session in Edinburgh after a series of institutions apologised after

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children were abused under their care. Other abuse survivors are

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encouraged to come forward to tell their stories. One of the survivors

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was Kate, who is here with us now. Thank you for coming in. You were

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born in Glasgow and moved away when you were seven years old. Tell us

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what happened. I ended up in dairy - -- Londonderry - Derry. I was pulled

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in the door, ... Everything was kept very quiet, I did not expect my

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mother and father to break up. I thought they were happy. You ended

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up in Nazareth House which was very notorious for what went on. What

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happened? We work taken to the Bath. We were put in fluid. We continued

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to be bathed in that and we developed skin problems because of

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the product. We got our haircut above our ears so we could blend in

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with the other children. We were orphans. I loved family life and had

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experienced it. I was heartbroken, craving my mother and father and

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having a family. And being in Scotland once more. It wasn't to be.

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When did the abuse start? When I was about eight. I remember going to

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confession. The first, vivid memory is the priest calling me by my name.

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In there, you work called your full title, I was Kathleen. Sometimes I

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would forget the answer to the name because my mother always called me

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Kate. It was in the confession box, the priest called me by my name. I

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was devastated. That's not even the correct word. I just thought God

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told him who I was. Then, it started to be, I was left in the last in the

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line. I was always put to the end of the line. Or was sent back to clean

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toilets, you know? So that I was always last. The none would hand me

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over, placed my hand into the priest's hand. My priest with gently

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into the place where they got changed. There were outfits

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belonging to him. That he could wear for different occasions. He would

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lock me in there. After the grooming started, he studied to grow me. He

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continued on. -- me. He made me sit behind the door while

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he was mass debating. -- masterbating. It was when I was 12.

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I was moved, to the outside school. I was not a first year. Got up in

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the morning, clean the toilets, being a first, forgetting about what

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happened that morning. I began to copy people who lived in family

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homes, copied their notes. I had suddenly -- accidentally sent a note

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from the none. I was asked one morning, stay back, you are not

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going to school today. I was walked miles away to another conference. --

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another convent. The secret was going to come out. You are here in

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Glasgow to support other survivors of abuse and encourage them to tell

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your story like you did in the Northern Ireland enquiry? It helped

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me. Anyone sitting at home, thinking, male or female, should I

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or shouldn't I? I was exactly the same. I saw Margaret from Savia on

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television. I thought, I wanted to talk to that woman. I do not know

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why I didn't pick up the courage. I got a lift down or stop I saw on the

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news she was coming to the City Hotel. I was waiting for her. I was

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still nervous, you know? It's two months before I talked to anyone

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about it. You would encourage people to do the same? The other reason you

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are here, it is more personal. You are trying to trace your family you

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lost touch with in Glasgow was years ago, how is that going? I have a

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happy mood because I believe I am going to meet some family. Maybe a

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couple of them, I don't know. I know two cousins have come forward. They

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have been phoning in and I am grateful to the Scottish media, you

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know, for... I think you were speaking to John on the radio and

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people called in? The papers were trying to find out if they could

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find me somebody, so that I had a belonging, a self- belonging, which

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I never had my life. I didn't know who I was supposed to be. And just

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closure to that. I feel as if doors have been opened and I am getting

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through these doors. No closing these doors behind me. Kate, we wish

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you well with the next chapter and the reunion with your family. Thanks

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very much for coming in. Thanks a million. Extraordinary. The polls

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suggest the win by the Conservatives party is by no means certain. Later,

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a comedic look at the political campaigns. But now, the campaign so

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far. When Ruth Davidson tops about

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independence in this campaign she is using it as a smoke screen. She says

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I talk about nothing else, the truth is, she talked so much about

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independence I can't get a word in Edwards. You are standing there

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before an election, saying, it is safe to vote SNP. If there is no

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manifesto for independence, there will be no referendum. This is the

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only thing you ever wanted in your entire political career. Two

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fundamentally different positions. There is one very clear position,

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the manifesto, people can look that up. We do not support independence,

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a second independence referendum. Because of the turbo-charged

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austerity... It was in the manifesto. It doesn't matter what

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the leader of the Labour Party said, it only matters what is on the

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manifesto? If you are so against another referendum, white the Brexit

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folk? We didn't know what the deal was going to be like when we came

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out of Europe. We voted to meet the European Union, not the destination.

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Something so monumental, we believe it should be put back to the British

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people for them to have their say. We are ensuring people will not have

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to sell their house during their lifetime. They will not have to

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worry about those monthly bills for their care and they will protect

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more money than they have been before. This must be the first time

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in modern history there are parties broken their manifesto policy before

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the election. Do you support renewal of Trident? It is there in the

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manifesto. I voted because everyone knows I wanted to go in a different

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direction. I respect the decision that has been taken. I think this

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debate shames and demeans us all. I don't think anyone watching this

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debate, from Cornwall to Caithness, who does not understand the positive

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contribution people have made to this land who have come from the

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rest of Europe and the rest of the world. Where is Theresa May? Take a

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look out of the window, she might be out there, sizing up your house to

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pay for your social care. As you've seen from that,

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politicians are raising devolved issues like health and education -

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so just a quick reminder that in this election

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a Westminster Government defence, immigration,

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trade and industry, Health, social care, and education

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are among the powers devolved to the Scottish Government,

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so we decided on them when we placed our votes

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for MSPs last year. The stiff upper lip may be a British

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trait, but there are concerns that men may be taking it too far when it

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comes to their mental The chief executive of Movember -

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the charity behind the craze for growing moustaches for money

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in November - has been in Scotland I do not have enough testosterone to

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do that. Timeline caught up with him

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at Glasgow Caledonian University. I worked in a number of Glasgow

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hospitals in the time I was here. My career in the widest fence was

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formed by my time in Glasgow. Stereotypically I've came across a

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lot of West Coast of Scotland men who hadn't talked about their

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health, had addressed the fact that they were frightened about things

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and I came across men who were really facing serious health issues

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because they hadn't addressed them earlier. Prostate cancer, testicular

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cancer, they both happen below the belt and men are not used to

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accessing health services and the last thing they want to do is access

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the health service and go to the doctor for the first time and have

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something that they perceive to be an invasive examination. Women are

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more used to it, they go through childbirth, they are used to

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accessing health services, breast screening and so on, and that

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doesn't happen for men. We need to break down the stigma, let guys know

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that a lot of things you think are going to happen and the doctors

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don't. Prostate cancer is much less common that you get a digital rectal

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examination the first time around. Normally it is a blood test. Most

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guys don't know that. We need guys to go. Nothing is worse than

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ignoring it. If you ignore it you are going to cause yourself mental

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problems and stress and you may be diagnosed later and therefore what

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you must be treated for Will be much more serious. Nearly 80% of the

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people who take their lives every year in the UK are men and the

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majority of them take their lives, they are young men. A lot of what we

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need to do about suicide is helping young guys to cope with the

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difficult moments in life much better. It's about providing coping

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skills and mechanisms to reach out and say that I'm not doing as well

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as I should be earlier on. We come as a society, for a long time have

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accepted that it is a fact that men will die earlier than women,

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currently five years earlier. There's no real reason for that. The

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reasons are preventable. We have quite a long history of funding

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biomedical research, especially into prostate cancer and there has been

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some great work. Scotland is a leading place in global research and

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it is well regarded. We have started developing community projects, for

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example working with some of the football clubs in Scotland and

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really funding programmes that are reaching out to the community about

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improving physical health and mental health. We have an overall principle

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that we take for the money we raise and actually going to wear men and

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boys are. We don't want to run projects and do bits of work that

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are in institutions, we want to go into the community and reach guys.

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One person who has been speaking out about their health recently

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He's lost nearly 17 stone following a gastric operation.

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His interview this week with Kaye Adams on BBC Radio Scotland

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about his experience of losing weight and his anxiety

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Oh, thanks very much. You have brought in your old jeans. Want to

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see them? They used to be a too tight. There we are. My goodness. I

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used to wear them with the button and zip undone and with a belt to

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hold them up because they were too small. Wow, fantastic. I think they

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should be put in a museum somewhere. There you go. You have gone public

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on the radio, this is the first time we have seen them, before and after,

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but what started it off was River City? Yes, we did a storyline about

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my character, big Bob facing up to his Demons and his eating disorder

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and his mental health, I suppose, and they sent him to fat camp. We

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have a clip from it. Let's have a look.

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No, I'm in the stairs. I need your help.

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Your fine. You just need someone to keep you company. Mum! Oh, Sun! It's

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all right. It's all right. I'm here. That was very powerful, quite

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emotional for you, watching it. No acting required in the scene. We

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really got into it. I was as distressed as the character because

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physically I was having so much trouble even contemplating walking

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up the staircase for a take stop even getting my line out, because I

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couldn't breathe properly. Luna, who plays my mother, was such a support

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and the producers were so supportive. That scene was very

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scary to play because he was getting hoped but I felt hopeless. The

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writer actually won a writer's Guild award because of how they handled

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it. There isn't a lot of sympathy for people in that situation, people

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with obesity problems. You don't find a lot of sympathy, especially

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in the media, and seeing it through Bob was McMahon and Bob's eyes, that

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was the first time to see the sympathetic look at a character that

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people laugh at. Normally there is a tuba playing in the background and

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it isn't taking seriously. We broke ground on River City by doing that.

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You've lost 17 stone. I phoned you once and said, fancy a while? I

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couldn't walk! I would have got to the bottom of the stairs and had to

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go back up -- fancy a walk. Very moving coming hearing you talk about

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how this is a mental health problem. Absolutely, that's part of it. A big

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part was mental illness, I suffer from depression and anxiety. It is

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under control but identified that as being the root of my eating and it

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was also about not wanting to participate in life. I was happy

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when I was going to work in River City because I was a different

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person and it was a world I could go to but the rest of the time I didn't

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want to leave the house because I had a bit of agoraphobia, the

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depression had taken hold and I didn't understand what depression

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was. Sometimes you would sit and stare into space, sometimes weeks

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would go by when I didn't leave the house. One of the tweets coming into

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the programme, you had an operation, they were playing devils advocate,

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they asked whether it was cheating. I don't think so. I was beyond the

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point where I could have closed the fridge and gone out for a walk, and

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that happens. I'm not saying that I'm not responsible for being in

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that position, I take responsibility. But the operation

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was like having stabilisers on a bike, getting a helping hand. I had

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to get into the rhythm of eating properly, I had to lose five stone

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before I had the operation and then I have lost another 12. I have been

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spurred on every stone I have lost I have gained a stone of confidence

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and energy. We can see it in your face! It is a joy, like getting the

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keys to Disneyland. I have one of these fitness watches, I am walking

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everywhere, it is like getting a second chance at life. If it is

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cheating to get a bit of surgery, it really isn't. Congratulations, we

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wish you well. Thanks for telling us about it.

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Abeer Darwish arrived in Edinburgh with her family just last year,

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She had just started a career as a TV presenter before

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Abeer spoke to Timeline about her experience

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of arriving in a new country, where everything is

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When I got here, it was very difficult to live here. Everything

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is different, everything. Food is different. People. My second

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language is Arabic. Now I am learning English. And the accent is

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a very strong accent. It's difficult to deal with a word like water.

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After I finished university and got a law degree, I left Syria. I left

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Syria because of the war. The fighting everywhere. And I went to

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Kurdistan. It's very close to Syria. By had a very good opportunity to

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work as a newsreader at an Arab TV channel. -- I had a very good

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opportunity. I was very happy. I will be famous

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and everybody will is Deeney. -- will see me. But I left my job to go

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to Scotland. And start from nothing. Can you imagine how difficult it is

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to start a new life, when you can't work, because you don't speak

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English? I was with my family in Kurdistan. So we came here together

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as refugees. Now we live close to each other. I miss my country, I

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miss my job, I miss my mum. I can't speak about my previous life in

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Syria because it's... It's very sad for me to speak about it. I want to

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say it's a very bad situation. For children, for women, for men. It's

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very bad. When the war finishes in my country,

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we will go back. Abeer Darwish from Syria adjusting

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to her new life in Scotland. We wish her well.

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Just one more week to go before we know who will

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Of course, it's been a snap election, so we haven't had too long

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But there have still been some pretty entertaining moments -

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we asked comedian Elaine Malcolmson to give us her thoughts

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You can't avoid the public unless you don't go out in public. If you

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want to win an election, you need to know what the public want. You only

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find out what they want if you ask them, but they'll throw anything at

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you. Immigration control, NHS funding, eggs. Why did the general

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public wants to meet politicians anyway? -- why do. Our taxes pay

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their wages, we should be able to call on them for any reason, at any

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time. Why should I have to pay for a yoga class to relax when I could

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fall to a politician for free? There are many other things in our

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manifesto. My bus was stuck in traffic yesterday and I missed

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Hollyoaks! I thought you people were about protecting British culture!

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Childcare and education are important but I can't get a signal

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when I'm on the toilet! All I hear is Rex did this, Brexit that. But

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Mrs May, my library only has this one copy of 50 Shades Of Grey. I

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understand that the NHS is under immense pressure, but, Nicola, I can

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hear pigeons nesting in my next-door neighbour 's chimney. I worry about

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social care, Tim Farron, but... Tim Farron, my bins only get emptied

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once a fortnight! So, how do politicians cope? Well, I've been

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watching very closely. If you keep smiling and laughing through the

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exchange, it looks like everything is completely fine and you're really

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enjoying the discussion. Be confident and repeat what you were

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told to say. Repeat after me, strong and stable, a brighter future, the

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many, not the few. A second referendum. We need to test

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politicians' readiness to meet the public. Maybe some kind of krypton

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factor for politicians. Before they can go walkabout they should be able

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to eat a bacon sandwich, falling down a zip wire while holding onto

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their self-respect and a baby. The important thing to deal with --

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remember when dealing with the public is that they decide whether

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you become a member of Parliament or just another member of the general

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public. If you have anything you think

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should be on the show, You can add us know what you would

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like us to follow up on Facebook or Twitter. Next week it is the general

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election, there will be no timeline but join us for the election

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coverage. We will be back on June the 15th. Goodbye for now.

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