23/11/2017 Timeline

Tonight, we speak to the former

football starlet who says he's been

cheated of the chance of justice

after his alleged abuser died.

Plus, should politicians do

reality TV, with Kezia Dugdale

about to enter the jungle?

Welcome to Timeline,

and to John, who's here this week

standing in for Glenn.

Tonight we're looking

at the biggest bugbears

on a night out if you've

got a disability.

Also, would you know how

to save a small child from choking?

We speak to the heroic

nine-year-old who did just that.

Plus, the widow of Hollywood legend

Gene Kelly on his location

scouting trip to

Scotland for Brigadoon.

This was kind of his place and he

arrived at Central Station and there

was a great photograph of him as he

steps out. They got a car and drove

all around and Gene had scoped it

out.

People have seen me deal with

rats and snakes in my time but the

jungle will be tougher, I have a

feeling.

She goes into the jungle tonight -

we speak to Kezia Dugdale's former

advisor, and former I'm A Celeb

star Christine Hamilton,

about how she'll get on.

A man, who says he was

abused as a teenager

by a former football scout,

says he's devastated his alleged

abuser will not now stand trial,

after his death this week.

Levi Stephen says he's

being denied the chance of justice,

after the death of 84 year-old

former Rangers and Liverpool

scout Harry Dunn, who was awaiting

trial on historical

child sex abuse charges.

Levi has been speaking to Mark Daly.

Just a warning that this report

contains descriptions of sexual

abuse.

I wanted to play football. I just

wanted to play the best I could and

impress people.

In the 1980s, Levi

Stephen was one of the most

promising young talents in Scottish

football, coveted by almost every

major team in the UK, but as he

tried to make his way in the game he

loved, he carried with him a secret.

A secret he found the courage to

tell a BBC documentary earlier this

year. He says he had been sexually

abused as a 13-year-old by a

football scout.

I opened the door and he tripped me

up. I landed face first and he got

on top of me. He was trying to take

my pants down. I could feel his

direction in the back of my leg. I

fought him off.

This had been the second alleged

attack on Levi Stephen by this man,

Harry Dunn, for decades a scout for

several of Britain's biggest clubs

including Liverpool, Chelsea and

Rangers. Harry Dunn was arrested in

March this year on charges of sexual

assault, attempted rape and rape. He

was to stand trial but was found

dead at his home in Edinburgh this

week. Levi Stephen and the other

boys who say they were abused by

Harry Dunn will never see him in

court. The

I was looking forward to

it, so it could go ahead and I could

look in the eye and tell the truth.

And watch him squirm in his seat.

Had used started to visualise it?

Yes, I... But no, I just had a lot

of hate and frustration and anger

and negative thoughts in my head.

But you just have to get on with it,

that's life.

Do you feel cheated?

Of course I was cheated, but not

just me but other victims.

Do you feel cheated?

Do I feel cheated? I am just

disappointed more than she did. I am

disappointed that I can't prove it.

-- I am disappointed more than

cheated. I have been denied the

opportunity to prove what he did to

me.

How did you feel when you heard

there were other boys who had gone

through the same as what you did?

You have a guilt. Because... Because

of the crime was not reported when

it happened, obviously other boys

were interfered with. So I had a

sense of guilt there.

The only other person Levi says he

told was his mother. For years the

two kept the story Sigrid, fearing

speaking out would hurt his chances

of a football career, -- they kept

it secret, but the mother had been

ready to testify against Harry Dunn.

I felt not anger about sadness

because I felt my son was robbed and

all the other victims were robbed

and did not get their day in court

with him. I was more sad for my son.

It is a precious thing because what

he did, that could have destroyed

me. He has taken my innocence. He

has deprived me of my innocence.

Do you feel that because he got away

with it for so long, as you say, do

you feel that he has ultimately in

the end got away with it now?

He has definitely got away with it.

He knew... But you don't know how

many years he was active for. This

is one of... This is only the tip of

the iceberg. He abused me when he

was about 50 years old and it must

have happened back then, there must

be a lot of other victims. But back

then you just put up and shut up. I

think society now, people are

starting to come forward and they

are not afraid any more and they are

not scared. You know, it was back

then, don't show emotion...

Deprived of the closure of his day

in court, does Levi now regret

speaking out?

I will never regret speaking out.

Never. Maybe a wee bit sooner. It is

worth it. Yes, it would have been

nice to have went to court and told

the truth and got out of there, and

got it in the public domain so

people would know the real truth.

But that has been taken away. But

this is part of the healing process,

isn't it? He died and things

happened. What can you do? You just

have to get on with it. The bit more

positive... Maybe look for an avenue

to help others in a similar

situation.

If you've been affected by any

of the issues raised by this,

you can call the BBC Action Line.

The number is on

your screen now - 0800 055 055.

Mark is here now. That is raw

emotion. How is Levi doing now?

He is a tough person and then he put

a brave face on things. He will take

some days to process this, and he

has tough times ahead. This is a

thing for him which happened in

three big stages... The abuse nearly

30 years ago... How he had to

process it then and the decision to

speak out in our programme earlier

this year, and then he was building

up to this trial, and now this has

happened. He would not wish, though,

anybody to be put off coming

forward, because this is the nature

of how historical allegations are

investigated. It is not necessarily

about trying to get closure of a

conviction... Levi would say it is

just about speaking out and

confronting these secrets of the

past, coming to terms with them. And

it just speaking to someone in the

police, of course... But when it

comes to an elderly alleged abuser,

we would want anyone to come forward

as soon as possible.

Where are we with all the

investigations into these

allegations?

It is about exactly a year since

Police Scotland launched this

operation. This came after a single

allegation made by the former player

from Crewe football team and he

would word from a team he suffered

at the hands of Andy Bernal, this

trial will be next year. An update

from police got in today, in terms

of how many allegations they have

had, in into day 288 crimes have

been recorded so far, 167 reports of

information were received, and 153

victims in Scotland were identified.

To date 13 have been arrested and

charged with offences relating to

child sex abuse, and some of those

people will go on trial next year in

cases that we will watch closely.

Thank you very much indeed, Mark.

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He was the star of

Singin' In The Rain and Brigadoon,

among many others.

I always thought Brigadoon was real

but probably not.

Gene Kelly was one of

Hollywood's biggest names.

Now, decades on from his heydey,

his widow Patricia is touring two

special shows about his life.

She's been here this week

to talk about the time

he came to Scotland,

as he wanted Brigadoon

to be filmed here.

She's been speaking

to Pauline McLean.

First of all, tell me how you met

your husband.

That is one of the most often asked

questions. I was a nerdy Herman

Melville scholar and I basically

spent most of my time in a library

and I wanted to write a documentary

about Herman Melville and other

writers. The narrator ended up being

somebody named Gene Kelly and I had

no clue who he was, the director put

us in the room together... My study

in graduate school was word origins,

etymology and poetry, and this kind

of studies... We sat in this room

for one week quoting poetry back and

forth and playing word games. By the

middle of that week I had been

enchanted. By six months later he

called me and ultimately he asked me

if I would stay and write his

memoir... And I went out expecting

to go for two weeks and interview

him and we ended up getting married

five years into the process.

You had a very special access, an

insight into who he was. Did you

feel they wanted to share everything

was there are some part of it that

he would say, maybe that is not for

public consumption?

The reason I created the one-woman

show which has been touring around

the world since 2012 was to give

people an idea of the many

dimensions of him. He just expands

on their mind and they begin to

understand that he created what they

are seeing, and the role that he had

behind the camera which was really

happy which is to be remembered. I

inherited his archives, and so every

day I am opening a new box and

pulling out something and it is a

mix of emotions. You have great joy

that you find something, and then it

often hits with a powerful, you

know, thing in your gut. Like

finding a note he left around the

house.

You are still doing that now?

I still do and I still have many

boxes to go through.

The image in my head at the moment

is the one of him outside this very

hotel in Glasgow in the 1950s and

when he was going off to scout for

potential locations for Brigadoon.

Did he tell you about that, this

visit to Scotland?

He loved it and took the train, the

overnight train with a producer,

Arthur, the great producer of many

MGM musicals. They got a car and

drove around and Gene had sculpted

having figured out exactly what to

do. He was so disappointed that they

had to reduce it to the stage.

Was that down to whether and... ?

MGM was beginning to tighten up on

budgets and do something overseas

like this... With the variables of

whether... I get more mail about

Brigadoon van many of Gene 's other

movies. He found that the ballet

section, the dance at Heather on the

hell, was one of the best he ever

did on film. -- Heather on the Hill.

I think it connects very much to

Scotland.

He had his connection to Scotland

and you had your own connection to

Scotland because you came here

before with your show...

I did.

Did this make sense you would end up

back here with this show, working

with this?

It is called "Gene Kelly: A Life in

Music". People think of dance when

they think of him and I think of

music, how does it relate to his

dance? The next show, the big show

with the orchestra live on stage,

will actually take people into their

creative process.

Already we have got past that notion

that we just like the films because

they are bright and colourful and

upbeat and lovely but there is

something beyond that, isn't there

are? There is a man there on the

screen who has become a movie star,

and or movie person...

He described himself as tough but

tender a man of great integrity who

represents something positive about

America.

Nevermore needed then at the moment

as well.

I was pitching my show on the day

after the election last year, and I

just felt demoralised, and everybody

surrounded me and they were all from

different countries, and they said,

no, this is exactly the time and he

represents the best of who we are.

Patricia Kelly there,

who's at the Glasgow Royal

Concert Hall tonight.

And that show,

"Gene Kelly: A Life in Music",

is at the same venue in April.

Would you know what to do

if a child was choking?

There's a drive in Scotland

this week to get more

people up to scratch,

as part of First Aid Week.

Here now are some heroes

and experts - Jackie Nelson

and her daughter Skye,

who was just eight when she

rescued her baby sister,

and Stuart Callison,

who is from St Andrew's First Aid.

Thank you so much. Skye, we know you

are nervous. Take us back to the

day, what happened?

My little sister

was choking on a piece of chocolate.

And what did you do?

I started

patting her back. And it's dislodged

the chocolate.

Were you scared? You

must have been?

I wasn't scared.

How

did you know what to do?

I watch 24

hours in A & E.

It stood you in good

stead!

And inside ambulance, all

those kinds of programmes, she's

quite keen.

It is such a great

story. And you must be hugely

emotional because one child save the

other child's life.

It is quite an

emotional thing. But I think as time

has gone on, have learned to cope

with the emotions!

Were you there

when it happened?

I was upstairs.

So

you heard the screams?

I heard Skye

saying her sister was choking, but

then she realised that her lips are

turning blue and realise she was

choking. And they raced downstairs

to get hurt and by the time I took

off Skye, that was when she was

sick.

Wow. And you knew just by

watching on telly?

Yes.

Fantastic.

You did a great thing.

Well done. She did really well,

Stuart? Was that textbook?

It's

extraordinary that she had the

presence of mind to go to the aid of

her sister. And unfortunately, not

every story and so happily. Around

one scot per week on average chokes

to death. On average, from the NHS

statistics.

Is that because people

don't know what to do?

In many

cases.

In many cases. At the NHS is

encouraging people to have a go as

Skye dead and inform themselves what

to do so they can stay calm and know

what to do in an emergency.

Just

tell everyone, then. Skye saved a

life but the rules are what? If

there is a small public choking,

what did you do?

The basic... The

degree of force you would apply

would vary depending on whether it's

a baby, a toddler or a grown adult.

First of, the two ways you can choke

somebody may be coughing, you would

encourage them to cough in case they

can just cough it up, or their

weight may be blocked completely in

which case they will not be able to

make any noise at all. -- there is

we may be blocked. The best person

to do would be to get that person to

lean over slightly, do what Skye did

come off backed loans between

someone's shoulders and hopefully

that will remove the obstruction. If

that does not work, stand behind

them, form assist, and around, but a

centimetre above the belly button,

pull hard and operate. Hard and

upwards. And that would generally be

the obstruction. If it doesn't come

off ambulance immediately but keep

trying. And if someone should lose

consciousness, immediately start

CPR. But the key thing is not to be

afraid. A lot of people may be just

think they can wait for the

ambulance, but you need to be

quicker than that. Don't be afraid,

you cannot do harm, do something

rather than nothing.

And uni that

already, Skye.

Yes.

You knew

deriving. You are nervous about

coming to Iraq, but not about saving

a life. You knew what to do.

Congratulations. We are proud of

you. Thank you for coming. That is a

great story.

Nights out can be great fun,

but often have the potential to go

wrong - and that's especially true

if you've a disability.

Robyn Sneddon knows

that only too well.

She missed out on a place

in Liam Gallacher's new music video

after the Glasgow venue

it was being filmed in didn't

have wheelchair access.

She's made this film for us

about her biggest bugbears

when she's out on the town.

Believes it or not, disabled people

love going out just as much as

anyone else. But sometimes it can be

a bit tricky. Here are if you have

the issues I face going out all the

time. -- Askew of the issues. Now,

this is actually a lovely pub with

good disabled access. But let's

pretend for a minute that it's not.

Hi, there, I was wondering if you

could tell me where the disabled

access is into the building?

You

could maybe try...

It's one thing boasting about how

accessible it places for

wheelchairs. It's another thing

actually passing that information to

your staff.

There you go.

Hi, how are you? Will

be girl in the wheelchair be OK

through the back?

That's fine.

Some

people think if you're in a

wheelchair you can't talk for

yourself or sub it's as if my

friends are my keepers. And it

doesn't help that I'm done here.

Hello?

I'm going to nip to the toilet. Who

doesn't love a couple of drinks on a

night out?

Eventually, though, like any other

human, I'm going to need to use the

ladies. Seriously? It's great that

you got a pilot I can actually use,

some places don't even offer that.

But it doesn't help when it is

filled with junk. If you can't let

me spend a penny, I want spent my

money. -- if you can't spend a

penny, I will not spend my money.

What's that? In our's wait for an

accessible taxi? You got to be

joking me. -- an hour. It's not easy

for anyone to get home after a night

out, but how do I feel without is

waiting for a taxi that can take my

wheels are being stranded and

forgotten about at the train

station. It is not easy. Keep that

in mind next time you're out and

about and see someone like me. But

no matter what happens, you can

never go wrong with a bag of chips.

Well, Robyn was able to be

light-hearted about some

of her bugbears as a wheelchair

user, but she's highlighted problems

facing lots of disabled people.

If you're one of them, tweet

us your own bugbears @bbctimeline.

Now to one of my

favourite programmes.

Is it? I'm A Celebrity?

Absalom, I love it.

and it's just got more

interesting with the arrival

of Kezia Dugdale in the jungle.

Let's look at the first glimpse

of her on the show last night -

and a preview of what's

in store tonight.

People have definitely seen me deal

with rattlesnakes in my time, but I

have a feeling the jungle will be a

lot tougher.

The next few days, I will fly just

related a part in I'm a Celebrity...

Get Me Out of Here. I think is an

amazing opportunity to talk to the

people who watch this programme did

about politics. We got to do

horrendous tasks, do beasties. Wish

me luck!

So how will she fare

as a reality TV star -

and should she be there

as a serving politician?

Let's speak to Kezia's former

advisor, Alan Roden,

and former I'm A Celeb campmate,

Christine Hamilton, who finished

third in the original

series of the show.

Christine, should she be there as an

elected politician?

I don't think

she should. She is correct that it

will be an amazing experience, but

for her, whether she is really going

to get much chance to talk politics

that will be broadcast, it's not

necessarily what they are aiming to

do. I don't think she should. And

out of her own mouth, she doesn't

really think she should. Only last

year, she called for an end to

second jobs with MSPs and she said

she wanted to have a new kind of

politics. She once told Nicola

Sturgeon, I'm sure you know this

better than I do, to get on with the

day job. So she has criticised other

politicians running outside

interests. And it isn't just two

weeks in the jungle. You will be

away for a month. Once she goes in,

whether she's in there now, she will

have no contact with the outside

world, absolutely nothing. I just

don't think that that is what people

are like the percentages for. --

elect their representatives for. If

you are a note elected

representative in any form, whether

it's Scotland Westminster Wales, you

have a duty to be there while your

institution is sitting at have

strong reasons not to.

She shouldn't

be there, she should be getting on

with her day job, Alan?

It's not a

second job, it's three weeks away

from work to appear on a TV show.

She can talk to millions of viewers

every night in a way you could never

reach from home.

She's being paid

for it.

She is and an eight part of

that fee to charity. There is so

much doom and gloom about politics

and I think people need to lighten

up. If a politician wants to go and

spent three weeks in the jungle to

entertain people, I think great.

Do

you think producers are going to

keep in all the stuff she says about

Labour values?

Maybe not in the show

on ITV between nine and ten, but

there are other platforms, spin off

shows, opportunities after that. In

print or broadcast. She will get the

opportunity to raise her profile and

let's see some politicians as human

beings for the first time in a long

time.

Christine you're shaking your

head?

On several levels. First of

all, politicians tend to do not well

in the jungles. 19 Tories came 11th.

They tend to be at first. -- but

there's also this business of

donating to charity. As I understand

it, these to be a close in her

register of members of interest that

at all outside earnings will be

deleted charity, that has now

mysteriously gone and she is saying

she would donate her Parliament

salary, the equivalent of what you

get for the three or Watt weeks she

is aware, that is a fraction of the

vast amount of money she would have

been offered for ITV.

Allen, can you

clarify what she's giving away? So

much is giving away £2500 to the

Rock

Trust, which looks after, Jim

people. She would later fee to

charity as well when she returns, we

cannot reveal what that is at the

stage. And since she has been an

MSP, she had needed £20,000 to

charity. And that was changed for

tax reasons in June long before she

was on the show.

I have never stood

for election for anything, I not an

elected politician. I was on the

show in 2002 when was nobody. And

it's not the same as Ed Balls going

on strictly or an Widdecombe,

because they were no longer elected

politicians. So it's different. And

it's equally not the same as, I

understand Ruth Davidson has done

celebrity bake off, was that one day

or something? And she wasn't

completely out of contact. And I

just think it is completely wrong.

It is a privilege to serve your

constituents and I think that should

be your prime focus when your

institution or assembly Parliament

is sitting. I think it is wrong.

Alan, how do you think she's going

to do? She's afraid of spiders and

birds?

It doesn't look like she's

doing great in tonight 's task from

the preview, but I think she will

get stuck in. She is scared spiders

and birds but I think she will get

stuck in. She is a great curries, so

if you get the opportunity she will

make some friends there.

Thank you

very much indeed. We have run out of

time, sorry.

Contentious issue!

That's your Timeline for this week.

Thanks for watching.