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Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament - | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
The human cost of the recent floods is laid bare | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
as MPs debate water defences and climate change. | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
Parents are now telling me that their children are too | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
frightened to go to sleep in case it happens again. | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
The chief executive of Talk Talk tells MPs more needs to be | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
done to get to grips with criminal activity online. | :00:35. | :00:43. | |
exponentially and we all need to generation. | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
exponentially and we all need to know more and learn more. | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
And Tim Peake's space flight sparks a bit of pre-Christmas levity | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
I think it is most unfortunate. I know it is the festive season but | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
honourable members opposite are singing and it is not good. | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
The government's been accused of letting communities down over | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
the recent flooding in the north of England and Scottish borders. | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
In a debate called by Labour, the Shadow Environment Secretary | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
said not enough was being done in the UK to tackle climate change, | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
and said ministers needed to look beyond flood defences with a focus | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
Will she assured that there is more coordination with the Department for | :01:19. | :01:33. | |
Transport, that our financial services do not keep investing in | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
fossil fuels? And will see stop making short-term cuts to | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
renewables, ignoring the long-term financial and human costs. Expert at | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
the export is warning that this government is failing on climate | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
change and failing to protect people from flooding. They are letting down | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
communities dreading the next heavy rainfall and flooding down future | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
generations will bear the brunt of climate change. The reality is | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
without a strong economy under a Conservative government we wouldn't | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
have money for these crucial schemes. Our party is investing in | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
new power stations and making sure we had the energy supplies while | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
reducing carbon emissions. It is our party that is investing to make this | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
country more resilient and adapt to climate change and extreme weather. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
The party opposite have no plan. They shout these decisions when they | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
were in office and they wasted our money. The damage and disruption | :02:38. | :02:45. | |
caused by the flood has still been significant. The Scottish Government | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
made it clear from the start that this game would be made to fund | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
repair work. They also emphasised that money is available to fund a | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
full flood prevention scheme. Preferred scheme has been chosen and | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
we are now moving to detailed design. It is critical to get this | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
right, as are only bold scheme can fail and even make things worse. | :03:09. | :03:18. | |
She was the host of the high ambition coalition between developed | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
and vulnerable countries, and her office was its headquarters. | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
She deserves credit for the very constructive role that she played. | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
Having said that, when I listened to her statement yesterday, I felt, | :03:26. | :03:33. | |
while I do not want to be unfair to her, that her position | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
was somewhat to say, Everything has changed and nothing | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
has changed. In other words, internationally everything has | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
changed, with high ambitions, zero emissions and all that stuff, | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
but for the UK things are the same as before. | :03:46. | :03:47. | |
Climate change is clearly not an esoteric matter, although some | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
The impact on my constituency, throughout my county and on other | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
The impact on the families who will be out of their homes | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
at Christmas, the hundreds upon hundreds of children | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
who are not able to look forward to Christmas at home, | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
First, I express my sympathy to all those victims of floods. | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
Monmouthshire has been affected by flooding in the past, | :04:15. | :04:16. | |
of course, and all those who helped with the clean-up. | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
However, I take issue with the idea that man-made climate change has | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
It is unfortunate that the two issues have been mixed up. | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
We have had few debates about global warming and climate change. | :04:30. | :04:38. | |
Climate change has been with us for millions of years, | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
I urge the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change to ask | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
a few hard questions of those who are frankly displaying some | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
Sue Hayman described what she had seen after the flooding. Last week I | :04:50. | :05:06. | |
stood with a family standing on their soaked carpet. | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
I stood inside homes in Cockermouth that stank of diesel oil. | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
I watched families in Workington throw decorated Christmas | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
I visited the flooded village school in Brigham and went to the town | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
Parents are now telling me that their children are too | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
frightened to go to sleep in case it happens again. | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
Cyber attacks are the crime of our generation, TalkTalk's Dido Harding | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
The firm's chief executive was answering questions | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
about the cyber attack on TalkTalk's website on 21 October. | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
Hackers accessed the personal details of 157,000 customers. | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
Five people have been arrested and bailed in connection | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
Ms Harding defended the company's security arrangements to the Culture | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
Could I just begin by apologising again to all of the customers of | :06:01. | :06:13. | |
talk talk for the concern and the inevitable uncertainty that this | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
event has called. None of us know enough and I think any chief | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
executive who looks you in the eye and said they know enough about the | :06:24. | :06:25. | |
subject, it means they haven't gotten up about it yet. This is a | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
cybercrime, it is the crime of our generation and it is growing | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
exponentially and we all need to know more and learn more. A lot of | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
people have written to us and says to us that you are simply not | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
looking after them, and it makes them very cross with you as a | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
company. You are not compensating them. Why are you not issuing | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
adequate compensation? Well, I fully appreciate that customers worry and | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
frustrated and many of them contact me directly to express those | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
emotions. Anyone who is directly lost money as a direct consequence | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
of this criminal attack, we absolutely wish to talk to them and | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
deal with that on a case-by-case basis. And you will compensate them? | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
I am not aware who of anyone who has directly lost anyone as a result of | :07:18. | :07:19. | |
the attack. Ms Harding would not say how much | :07:20. | :07:21. | |
money TalkTalk allocated to its security budget, | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
but she did say she believed the attack would cost | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
the company ?30 to ?35 million. If this had been a physical ram raid | :07:26. | :07:34. | |
on a store, and that say it was one where not only goods were stolen but | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
customers were beaten up, to try and get the analogy, I think the first | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
thing that you would ask of the retailer is, where they following | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
all of the appropriate health and safety and security regulations? | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
Once they have demonstrated that they had, you would assume they were | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
victims of a crime. The difference between the physical and the digital | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
world is what counts as appropriate health and safety and security as a | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
benchmark is something that we are all working out at the moment, there | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
isn't that a group is an asymmetry, it is greater in the digital world, | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
between companies who have to if 100% of the time and cybercriminals | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
who only had to get lucky once. The way the digital world works is that | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
all of the tools, it is like all of your potential cybercriminals | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
worldwide, they all have access to the equivalent of a Kalashnikov and | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
a nuclear bomb because it is cut and paste and sitting in the dark web | :08:36. | :08:36. | |
for free. Dido Harding described how | :08:37. | :08:36. | |
the events of the hack unfolded. After the attack, she received | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
a ransom demand by email. She said the day after the hack, | :08:40. | :08:41. | |
she decided the sensible thing to do I was clear that I needed to warn | :08:42. | :08:53. | |
all my customers, that I could do something about it to help protect | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
my customers. If the story you have painted, they must be a risk there | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
that there are other companies, but will a similar amount of data, we | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
received a similar e-mail asking for a ransom to paid and they pay it and | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
no one would be any the wiser. I think there is that risk. If I may | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
just finished my timeline, I was clear by the lunchtime on the | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
Thursday that the sensible thing to do to protect the customers was to | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
warn all of them because I could have made them safer. I could give | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
them free credit monitoring. I could warn them not to accept these scum | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
calls. For completely understandable reasons, scam calls. The advice we | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
received from the Metropolitan Police was not to tell our | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
customers. I totally understand why the police wanted to stay quiet | :09:42. | :09:43. | |
because they have different objective, they want to catch the | :09:44. | :09:44. | |
criminals. On the day when a Brit | :09:45. | :09:45. | |
blasted off into space, an unexpected burst of singing | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
on the green benches - perhaps to celebrate, | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
or perhaps just sparked off But ahead of that space oddity, | :09:53. | :09:54. | |
it was business as usual at Question Time - with MPs considering how | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
to increase exports. Can he tell me how his department | :10:00. | :10:09. | |
plans to make good use of our new trade relationship with China to | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
help small businesses expand into these vital global markets? Can I | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
commend Right Honourable friend on her efforts to encourage businesses | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
in her own constituency to export more to China? While exports to | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
China have doubled in the last five years, there is a lot more we can | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
do, the recent visit by the Chinese president I think helped highlight | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
that. The efforts that she is making with UK G8 and see BBC and others I | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
think is an example to us. I was talking recently to a senior Indian | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
business and I asked him how can we increase trade with India? He said | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
the one thing you could do is the EU. Would the Secretary of State, | :10:50. | :10:58. | |
either has Secretary of State, or personally, endorse these comments | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
Chris Agro -- last week I was speaking to a lot of Indian | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
businessmen and women and Indian students and I think we can | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
certainly increase our exports to India in education. It is all very | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
well but it is not working because the latest trade deficit is | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
widening. Up to ?2.4 billion last quarter. Exports of goods, perhaps | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
ministers should listen to this, exports of goods the UK actually | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
fell last month by ?709. It is a pity we can't exports being because | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
the Government is very good at that. What is his excuse for the dismal | :11:41. | :11:49. | |
record on the trade deficit? The honourable gentleman shouldn't do | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
down our world-class exporters. They are doing a fantastic job, and I | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
will give you a few examples of what they can export. They can export | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
wine to France, chocolate to Belgium, even export boomerangs to | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
Australia. I feared it is the same boomerang that keeps coming back. | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
Can I say that the United Kingdom space sector, we have heard this | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
great news about the launch today, Major Tim going up into space. | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
Ground control can report that the UK space sector is almost doubled to | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
11.8 billion... Mr Speaker, I figured it is most unfortunate, I | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
know it is the festive season but honourable members opposite are now | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
singing and it is not good, but it has doubled, it is important. I hope | :12:39. | :12:45. | |
they might cheer these facts. ?11.8 billion in just seven years, | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
employing 37,000 people. Seeing, but no member of this House can match | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
David Bowie. I am irrelevant as far as ground control is concerned. Can | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
I add our best wishes and congratulations to Major Tim Peakes. | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
The first British just cannot to reach the International Space | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
Station. Can I also paid tribute to Helen Sharman who was the first | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
button to go into space. Let us all do our bit to -- Britain. In the | :13:17. | :13:24. | |
same way that the moon landings inspired my generation. Yesterday | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
the member for North Shropshire described the Prime Minister's | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
negotiations as froth and nonsense and the Prime Minister's approach to | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
his endless negotiations have been described as a shambles. Does the | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
Secretary of State agree with UK business or the Eurosceptics on his | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
own side? Firstly, if I may just associate myself with the comments | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
the honourable lady made about Major Tim Peakes mission and how he is an | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
inspiration for us all. Hopefully we can get more people interested in | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
science. About the European Union, what I agree with is with almost all | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
businesses that I have met, they want to see reform and changes in | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
our relationship with the EU and they want to see it more | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
competitive, easier trade deals, quicker and deeper trade deals, a | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
deeper single market and less bureaucracy. I'm sure she agrees | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
with that too and that is what we are fighting for. | :14:18. | :14:19. | |
The Labour MP Frank Field, who worked with the Labour | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
and coalition governments on welfare reform and poverty, | :14:23. | :14:24. | |
has called for local authorities to seek out children eligible | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
for free school meals, rather than waiting for parents to apply. | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
He said there were children who were falling through the net - | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
and housing benefit data could be used to make sure that children had | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
the meal they were entitled to at school. | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
I view the world I grew up in rather like a train journey. There were | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
different compartments to that train, reflecting our social | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
classes, particularly in England, it was a first-class compartment, | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
second, third and fourth. But the crucial thing about this train | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
journey was that we were all on board, and we were all heading | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
towards a better tomorrow. In the past decade or so, the last | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
carriage, that was class carriage, has become detached from the train | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
journey to rest of us are on. Last night, in each of our | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
constituencies, a large number of children went to bed hungry and took | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
that hunger to school with them. The Secretary of State for Education, to | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
her credit, it is concerned about this, and is concerned about the | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
numbers of children who appear eligible for free school meals but | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
get no hot meal at the beginning of the day. And she has a task force | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
which is looking at good practice and trying to spread good practice. | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
But we all know how long it sometimes takes for good practice to | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
be spread. Already I think we have a record number of 126 members from | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
all sides of the House with all kinds of opinions, wishing for this | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
Bill to proceed. It is of course in the power of the Secretary of State | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
to beat the Bill and seek these powers herself. It would not by | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
itself, that move, bring a happy, more prosperous Christmas to those | :16:23. | :16:29. | |
children, but it would lay the basis that, come the New Year, there would | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
be fewer hungry children in Britain today than there are today, and I | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
seek a leave of the Houston to introduce the Bill. | :16:40. | :16:40. | |
His bill has little chance of becoming law without support | :16:41. | :16:42. | |
But Frank Field stressed it had been supported by 125 MPs from parties | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
across the Commons and urged the government to introduce | :16:47. | :16:48. | |
A point he was making up to the very end. | :16:49. | :16:58. | |
Free school meals, automatic legislation of eligible children. | :16:59. | :17:19. | |
The 22nd of January, 2016. In case people didn't here, unless the | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
Secretary of State acts before then. The Speaker there, noting | :17:22. | :17:22. | |
a hint when he hears one. You're watching | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
Tuesday in Parliament. Still to come: Peers agree that | :17:26. | :17:26. | |
people with Downs Syndrome have been let down by society, in the words | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
of the minister, "forever." MPs have accused the Director | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
of Public Prosecutions of being "complacent" | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
and being in "a bubble." Alison Saunders was appearing before | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
the Justice Committee when she was challenged over | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
the standard of prosecutors in court and the treatment of victims | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
and their families. I'm concerned there may be | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
an element of complacency because in February 2015, | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
the report on the investigation on prosecution of fatal road traffic | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
incidents by Her Majesty's CPSI found that the overall standard | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
of communication was poor in 75% of cases and they noted | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
that there was no specialist training of prosecutors, | :18:13. | :18:20. | |
so isn't it right that the CPS needs to do a better job in respect | :18:21. | :18:23. | |
of fatal road traffic accidents? I think we have a standard | :18:24. | :18:25. | |
that we should meet with bereaved families in any case | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
and we have a higher standard of care to make sure we are meeting | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
them and understanding the issues. All fatal road traffic | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
accidents should go through a Deputy Crown Prosecutor | :18:39. | :18:40. | |
for sign-off whether we are prosecuting them or not and those | :18:41. | :18:48. | |
Deputy Crown Prosecutors have been trained and meet regularly | :18:49. | :18:50. | |
so that they can talk to each other as well about issues including legal | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
issues around fatal road traffic cases and therefore we have our most | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
senior and experienced lawyers working on those cases | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
and signing them off. So you're saying | :19:04. | :19:05. | |
there is no problem? There is always room for improvement | :19:06. | :19:07. | |
no matter how good we get. One of the most depressing things | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
that anyone can possibly do is to go to court and see the standard | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
of the Crown Prosecutors. Half of which, particularly | :19:19. | :19:20. | |
magistrates' courts, where it is little | :19:21. | :19:21. | |
more than a shambles. You have Crown Prosecution, | :19:22. | :19:29. | |
and you can see they're literally reading the case file out | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
for the first time cos they have never seen it before | :19:35. | :19:37. | |
reading it out in court. It is a shambles and if a victim | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
is actually sat there coming to see their bit of justice | :19:42. | :19:50. | |
being done, what must they think when they see a Crown Prosecutor | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
reading it out for the first time Do you not think you're a bit | :19:54. | :19:56. | |
complacent about the standards No, I've never said there is nothing | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
we can learn and if you go to magistrates now, you won't see | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
prosecutors shuffling papers because papers are no | :20:05. | :20:06. | |
longer in existence The majority of cases are now | :20:07. | :20:08. | |
transferred digitally. I'm not being complacent at all, | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
but what happens are those If they're going to guilty plea | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
courts, they go in and they're dealt In some places around the country, | :20:15. | :20:21. | |
less than 3% of cases are going with presentence reports, | :20:22. | :20:30. | |
most are dealt with there and then and we can see from national figures | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
that the number of hearings For not guilty plea cases, | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
they are being dealt with at the first date of hearing | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
because we are talking to the defence, the defence have | :20:44. | :20:45. | |
papers, particularly digitally where we know their addresses | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
and can send them the papers securely and we are able | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
to list cases for trials. In some areas, we are having reports | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
from the magistrates' courts, and from the police and prosecutors | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
that the number of trials has been If we can put that out | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
across the country and have that consistently, it would make a huge | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
difference to the way in which justice is delivered | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
and also the number of guilty plea sentences on the first hearing | :21:13. | :21:14. | |
is going up. With respect, I think | :21:15. | :21:16. | |
you are in a bubble, probably being told what you want to hear | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
because actually every magistrate there is will tell | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
you there are prosecutors reading of the case for the first time | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
and that is unacceptable and you really should | :21:26. | :21:27. | |
know about that. I go to court quite frequently | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
and talk to magistrates frequently. I have regular meetings | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
with magistrates' chairs, magistrates' benches, | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
magistrates' associations as well as other colleagues, | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
so I'm told very quickly. I have many ways of | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
assessing performance. We have a very large suite | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
of performance measures which we go through, we have local and national | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
criminal justice boards, so I would very much hope | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
I am not in a bubble. A hospital trust has apologised | :21:59. | :22:00. | |
for placing a "do not resuscitate" or DNR order on a patient | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
with Down's Syndrome - and listing his learning | :22:06. | :22:07. | |
difficulties among the reasons The family of Andrew Waters was not | :22:08. | :22:09. | |
consulted or informed and found out only after he was discharged | :22:10. | :22:19. | |
from hospital in 2011. His case was raised | :22:20. | :22:21. | |
in the House of Lords. My Lords, in considering Mencap's | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
estimate that 1,200 people with learning difficulties die | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
needlessly in NHS care every year, will the Minister look | :22:30. | :22:31. | |
at the inspiring work of the Blue Apple Theatre company, | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
which includes actors with Down's syndrome performing either Hamlet | :22:36. | :22:42. | |
or their play Living Without Fear, which was staged in Mr Speaker's | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
House, and then consider how best we can counter a slide | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
into eugenics, discrimination and non-resuscitation orders, | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
as in the case of Andrew Waters, and look for ways to promote | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
positive and life-affirming attitudes towards people | :22:56. | :22:57. | |
with Down s syndrome? Perhaps I could address first | :22:58. | :23:04. | |
the particular issue of Andrew The doctor who signed the DNR | :23:05. | :23:06. | |
order was a junior doctor It was a misjudgement, | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
he apologised for that mistake, and he has learnt from it | :23:13. | :23:19. | |
by using his experience to teach other doctors how to deal | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
with similar issues. It is important to make that | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
statement first ` the reaction of that junior doctor was the right | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
one, having made that mistake. Does the Minister know how | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
widespread such discrimination is against people with | :23:34. | :23:35. | |
learning difficulties? What reassurance can he give | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
to parents such as those I met recently in the House | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
of Commons Dining Room, who were terrified to allow | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
their disabled son to go into hospital because they knew | :23:47. | :23:48. | |
they were going to be put under They were also afraid that, | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
even if they refused but were not at his bedside 24 hours a day, | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
it would happen anyway. I have no evidence that this | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
is a systemic problem, but it is absolutely the case | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
that this group of very vulnerable people have been let down not just | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
by doctors and clinicians but actually by all of us ` | :24:14. | :24:18. | |
the whole of society, for ever. The report produced three weeks ago | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
called Building the Right Support recognised that we have let down | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
this group for decades, and I hope that over the next five | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
years we can start to make amends. The assumption that pregnant women | :24:29. | :24:35. | |
who are expecting a baby with Down's syndrome will abort that | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
child affects public As one woman with Down's syndrome | :24:39. | :24:40. | |
put it when speaking at a conference on prenatal diagnosis, | :24:41. | :24:50. | |
"You want to kill us", which is a hard perspective | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
for an adult with Down's I am grateful to the Minister | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
for picking up the point that medical nursing students need | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
to learn from people with learning disabilities, so that | :25:01. | :25:02. | |
their attitudes change. That familiarity with and being | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
comfortable with people with learning disabilities | :25:07. | :25:08. | |
will change things. The minister agreed, | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
saying that medical training was not just about passing exams, | :25:13. | :25:14. | |
but learning how to deal Kristina Cooper's here | :25:15. | :25:16. | |
for the rest of the week, | :25:17. | :25:23. |