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Hello there, and welcome

to the programme.

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Coming up in the next half hour:

the government confirms it

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won't appeal a high court ruling

on benefit payments for people

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with mental illness.

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Labour reckons it's good news

for hard pressed claimants.

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The cuts that have been brought on

disabled people by this government

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is an absolute disgrace.

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Also on this programme: the former

chair of the social mobility

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commission says ministers weren't

willing or able to "put

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their shoulders to the wheel"

to tackle the problem.

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And an MP says it's time

to put an end to rip off

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rickshaw rides in london.

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Charging 2- £300 to go the half-mile

from Oxford Circus.

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But first: the work

and pensions secretary has confirmed

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that up to 220,000 people

could have their benefits

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restored to a higher level,

following a high court ruling.

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Ministers announced on Friday

that they would not appeal

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against a high court judgment

on disability benefits.

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The row is over those

with mental health conditions

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and whether they should qualify

for higher rates of

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personal independence

payments, known as pips.

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An SNP MP asked the new work

and pensions secretary to come

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to the commons and explain

what would happen now.

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Esther McVey said the government

would write to those affected

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and payments would be backdated.

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We are not appealing the outcome of

the recent High Court judgment in

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order to provide certainty to our

climate. Our next steps will build

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on the positive work this government

is already undertaking, including

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spending on main disability

benefits, pip, DLA and attendance

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allowance has risen by four points 2

billion cents Ted 2010. Real

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spending on disability benefits will

be higher every year to 2010 Dan in

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2010.

How long will it take to carry

out the review? Out what longer will

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these people have to wait to receive

the money that they rely on and the

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money that rightfully unlawfully is

theirs. Can the Secretary of State

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explain why her apartment as

amassing such an appalling that...

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Doesn't that tell the Government

something about these cuts? Finally,

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will she not come to the... System

its most fundamental principle is

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not to upgrade the budget but to

protect the respect and dignity of

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those who rely on it rather than

continuing think to punish people

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for having disabilities.

Hear, hear!

When you are trying to expand

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support it is not always going to be

easy, so we knew at the time we were

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taking on a very difficult change

and it would no doubt be legal

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challenges. But do you know what?

When there is legal challenges, Mr

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Speaker, we've got to look at them,

take a true and fair judgment, and

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carry on that path. And on this

instance I do believe I made a fair

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judgment. I have to say the

Secretary of State's statement, to

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any disabled

person watching this

will be absolutely gob smacked.

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Hear, hear!

And to say there is a commitment to

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disabled people when the human

committee on the rights of disabled

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people has said it is a human

catastrophe, the cuts that have been

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brought on disabled people by this

government is an absolute disgrace.

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And she asked, how many people

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would be affected by the decision.

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How many people could this be

effecting? It could affect up to

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220,000 people. And that's why we

are taking this process very

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seriously and we as a department

will be reaching out to those people

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once we know exactly what we are

doing.

As for the UN, how did he

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figures that she has given compare

internationally?

Again, and other

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good point raised by my right

honourable friend. The UK is one of

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the most generous countries in the

world when it comes to supporting

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its disabled people.

Hear, hear!

Only Germany in the G7 spends more.

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We disband what is deemed

appropriate, available and that we

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have -- we do spend. Which is over

£50 billion. But as I say, and I

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will reiterated, we are one of the

most generous countries in the

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world.

And other colleagues at last

year we should listen to the message

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that the courts were giving us,

accepting their ruling would be a

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significant step forward... Booker

the Select Committee were about to

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publish an article... Please will

the Secretary of State commit to

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seriously considering our

recommendations for what we can do

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to improve both of those benefits it

comes?

The Secretary of State talks

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of the unnecessary vilification of

her policies. When it was her given

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to a responsible for the

vilification of so many mentally

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disabled people by presenting them

as applying for benefits for which

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they are not entitled.

Hear, hear!

And I have seen the misery these

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decisions have cost us so many of my

constituents, including those

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suffering from host dramatic stress

syndrome as a consequence of sexual

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abuse. So we'll she now guaranteed

to them the maximum amount of time

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that they will have to wait to have

their cases reviewed?

Hear, hear!

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Thank you. It is unfortunate when

members of the opposition try and

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ratchet the level of the motion up

in the Chamber. Especially when it

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is very emotional as it is. Nobody

has ever sought to vilify anybody.

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Hear, hear!

And I think if we could get that on

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the record now, this is not about

vilification about anybody. It's not

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about vilification. It is about

giving the right support to those

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people who need it.

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The work and pensions

secretary, Esther McVey.

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The former head of the social

mobility commission, alan milburn,

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says the government lacks

the willingness and ability

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to deal with the "social

crisis" facing the country.

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The commission's four board members

quit in December in protest

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at a lack of action on the agenda.

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Giving evidence to the education

select committee, Alan Milburn said

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there had been "disengagement"

about the watchdog's status,

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which had seen its membership shrink

from ten commissioners to four.

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We had an independent -- independent

department and I was it. ... We then

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made recommendations to government

about who was avoidable. It took

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almost a year for the Government to

decide -- who was avoidable. That

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none of the people that we

recommended work suitable for

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appointment. And in that time by the

way, none of the candidates heard

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anything. And effectively and I

insisted a letter of apology be sent

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to candidates and a the other

applicants.

If the Government is not

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going to renew our position, then we

will be left with three. We know

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this is my sense. If it requires ten

people it requires ten people. And I

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felt that it was an intolerable

position for staff and it was not in

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a position to be working in the way

it had been intended.

Good

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initiative, good Ministers that try

to do the right thing, but overall I

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think the conclusion was that it

didn't seem that the Government had

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the either ability or willingness to

put their collective shoulders to

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the wheel... Why was that? It is

pretty obvious in a sense. Ashley is

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understandable. Brexit is fiercely

complex, probably the most complex

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international negotiations and has

ever been. And the conclusions I

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reached was that unfortunately. The

Government left then with to really

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match the rhetoric with the reality.

I said that as a matter of regret, I

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really do.

I think also with Brexit

actually that there may well be

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quite a lot of turmoil one way or

another. And a lot of change to cope

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with which means that social change

will become even more important.

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Former education secretary,

Gillian, now Lady Shephard.

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The culture secretary has come under

pressure from opposition MPs

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to "prohibit" Rupert Murdoch's

£11 billion bid to take full

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control of the broadcaster, Sky.

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The demands came after the

competition and markets authority,

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the CMA, said the takeover was not

in the public interest as it

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would give the Murdoch family trust

too much influence over public

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opinion and the political agenda.

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But Sky could end up owned

by disney if Mr Murdoch's

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proposed sale of Fox,

which owns 39% of Sky, goes ahead.

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In a statement the culture

secretary said that the CMA's

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findings were provisional.

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A final report is expected in May.

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I hope the House will understand

that I cannot comment successively

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on the original report before us

anonymously for the final report

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before commenting commenting. I am

however aware of the keen interest

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across the House on this important

matter. And I know that members will

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be closely scrutinizing the

provisional findings and will have

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views on them. In

November, sky has

threatened to shut down Sky News if

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it lived to be a plurality obstacle

in their bid. Will be reject any

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attempt by the Murdochs to blackmail

him or the regulator by threatening

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sky's staff.

Hear, hear!

.

I will follow the process by

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taking into consideration the final

report once it is published by the

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ECMA. I will consider what it says,

I will consider all the relevant

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evidence and information --

published by the CMA. And then make

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a decision.

Mr Speaker, we hear

reports that owners of Sky would be

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willing to close down Sky News if it

becomes an impeachment in the Bill,

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with a possible loss of 500 jobs.

Can the Secretary of State confirm

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that he will not allow employers of

Sky to be used as pawns in any

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takeover in this final decision

coming to vote? ... What impact will

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this have on his final decision on a

given that Disney's reported lack of

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interest in news broadcasting.

Thank

you very much, Mr Speaker. Well, it

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is a matter of law that whilst

consideration of this proposal is

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ongoing, sky news cannot be shut

down in advance of a decision.

When

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it comes to plurality, and he just

bear in mind that the greatest

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disaster that could befall plurality

of media in this country would be

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from sky News which is after all a

lossmaking enterprise, although

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extremely good. If that enterprise

were to be closed.

First applied it

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is very important that he and the

CMA should not allow back door

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attempt by the Murdochs to get

control of Sky from the so-called

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remedies process. The simple way to

stop this deal going ahead is to

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prohibit it, not to have some carved

out or some complicated process.

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This is personal. This is basically

leftist, particularly the party

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opposite who don't like Murdoch. If

this involve any other media

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organization, the shadow Secretary

of State in the party opposite would

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have nothing at all to say. This is

something that is personal. You

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should bear that in mind.

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You're watching tuesday

in parliament, with me,

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alicia mccarthy.

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Tuesday is cabinet meeting day.

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Cabinet arrivals and apart

from these sorts of pictures

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of all the senior figures striding

up downing street, there's

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generally not much to say.

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But this tuesday was different

because it'd been widely reported

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that the foreign secretary,

boris johnson, was planning to pitch

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for £100-a-week boost

for the nhs in england,

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as a "brexit dividend".

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Well, we don't know exactly

what transpired at the meeting

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but theresa may did make a plea

for discussions about future

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funding to remain private.

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In the afternoon, jeremy hunt

was appearing before

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the health committee

and the subject came up.

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In the run-up to today's events. You

supported the foreign secretaries

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cause for the NHS. How did that go?

I don't think any help section

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secretary, resources for his or her

department. Obviously, you

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understand been telling you about

the precise content of the Cabinet.

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Is the Foreign Secretary, making

these comments public in getting his

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people to brief them today's

running?

I am not able to comment

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about what happened, but I would say

that there was a Brexit debate and

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then NHS debate, and indication of

those two debates coming together.

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There is not going to be any money

flowing, so where's this money going

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come from? Will have to ask the

Foreign Secretary.

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In addition to touching

on cabinet tensions,

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the health committee was chiefly

concerned with what might happen

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to the provision of medicines

after the uk leaves the eu.

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Jeremy hunt was asked

about a transition deal.

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Jeremy hunt.

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We need one now. The Business

Secretary could, based on, the

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status -- status quo, again today.

No, the reality of these things, no,

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these communications of the EU and

the...

The EU could agree now?

I

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think that is a question you have to

address to David Davis, but we have

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made it very clear that the

transition deal, that was agreed

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with the EU in December, and I think

a pretty imported moment in the

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negotiations, also moving onto

discussions in the future

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relationship. There are going to be

some eyes to be dotted and send

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feedback need to be crossed, it was

a broad agreement, as far as the

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sectors concerned is along the lines

that we would all... I am very

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confident that we can add the

transition deal.

We've heard from a

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number of people in different trade

associations, that British patients

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will receive new medicines more

slowly than they do at the moment.

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And that obviously can be critical

for patient's treatment. How are we

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going to deal with that issue after

Brexit?

I think the first point to

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make is that, British patients

currently receive medicines to

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slowly. -- too slowly. And part of

the catalytic effect of Brexit was

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for us to look much harder. And one

of those is the fact that when they

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develop new drugs in the UK, it

takes too long to get picked up by

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the NHS. And that is a significant

negative as far as we are concerned.

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So we are looking more broadly, for

patient's safety, it is an absolute

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priority to make sure that things do

not slow down as a result of Brexit.

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The justice secretary says the "most

stringent" licensing conditions must

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be placed on the black cab rapist,

John Worboys when he is

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released from prison.

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Worboys is believed to have carried

out more than 100 rapes and sexual

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assaults on women in London

between 2002 and 2008.

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He was transferred from HMP

Wakefield in West Yorkshire to HMP

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Belmarsh, south-east London,

at the weekend ahead

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of his expected release.

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David Gauke said that

while the "precise conditions"

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for parole are decided

at an "operational level",

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he had written to the authorities

stressing the need to ensure

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that the concerns of victims were

put at the heart of this process".

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The case was raised

by a conservative MP.

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They propose to release him, and it

is terrifying. And like his victims,

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they are appalled to learn that he

is been moved to the new prison, he

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will do absolutely everything in his

power to ensure that Worboys is

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released to keep him out of Greater

London.

What I say to my honourable

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friend who has been tireless on this

matter in recent weeks. Is that

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first of all, when it comes to the

precise conditions, those are

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operational matters that are not

this -- are decided and operational

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level. Stressing the needs that the

concerns of victims at the heart of

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this process and ensuring that the

most stringent measures are taken in

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place in terms of the conditions

will stop

and the review of public

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safety, the victims of Worboys, can

they confirm that the government

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will at least co-operate with the

judicial review now being brought by

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victims?

Well, I've been, and I

think my honourable friend for her

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question? I set out that I would not

be pursuing a traditional review on

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behalf of the government in this

case. But I also made it very clear

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that I would not say or do anything

that would stand in the way of

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others who may have different

meanings into a traditional review.

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He has not been prosecuted for the

vast majority of his crimes, how is

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the government working with victims,

to make sure that they are

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prosecuted for their crimes?

It is

troubled us all. It has troubled me

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personally. Of course it has. In

this particular case, the state is

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investigating the review from a

probation point of view. As the

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Secretary of State has already said,

there are operational

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responsibilities here and response

to where she is transferred to and

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his directions -- he.

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The government's been accused

of 'playing games' by not setting

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out its preferred plan

for the post-Brexit relationship

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between the EU and the UK's

financial services sector.

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The issue was raised in the House

of lords by a liberal democrat

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who chairs a Lords committee

on financial affairs.

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What is lacking is a paper, telling

the financial services

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Senator. What it should implement

and plan for when the transition

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period is over. This is an industry

that, more than 1 million jobs are

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at stake, and has huge strategic

importance for the United Kingdom.

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But none of the long promised

financial service sectors.

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Replying the Minister quoted

the Minister in the Commons.

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We shall continue to review it, and

we will set it out as appropriate.

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And as we continue to be.

It is over

a year since they reported on the

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financial services and Brexit are

produced. We have no clear view of

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what the government thinks, if it

had to does not know? And not

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talent? Or is it really just not up

to the task?

If you did not come

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from the benches opposite, where the

labour parties position can only be

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described as, let me just reminded

the lady of this cutting I precisely

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what has been happening. There has

been an extensive, she knows that we

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are seeking a good trade agreement

between the UK and the EU. A

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detailed technical talk which she is

well aware. There is an ongoing

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dialogue, this is a delicate sense

of time, and to the government must

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be the arbiter of what is

appropriate in particular areas.

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A conservative former chancellor,

said the Government had

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made clear it wanted

the maximum possible access.

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And wasn't it absurd to ask

for more detail than that.

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And to ask a government that is

trying to negotiate a deal, that is

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not realistic.

I should not need to

remind the noble Baroness that this

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is only a small part of the United

kingdoms financial services

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industry. And a large part of it is

in Scotland, Bristol, Leeds, these

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jobs are at risk and this is not the

time to be playing games. My neck I

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think she's being a bit harsh in her

terminology. We are not playing

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games, and let me tell you in

Brussels

these are complex

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challenging negotiations and be very

nature of them, are very sensitive,

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and that involves the need to

observe the degree of

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confidentiality.

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Lady Goldie.

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Finally, in the Commons

there was a call for people

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using cycle rickshaws,

or pedicabs to be protected

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from huge rip-off fares.

0:23:540:23:55

The conservative Paul Scully

introduced a bill, enabling

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transport for London

to regulate the industry.

0:23:590:24:03

He said because pedicabs weren't

regulated there was no requirement

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for the estimated 1,400 drivers

to have insurance, or for vehicle

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condition or driver

quality to be assessed.

0:24:080:24:14

Paul Scully said his bill

was "simply ironing out an anomaly",

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as London was the only part

of the UK where cycle rickshaws

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weren't already regulated.

0:24:210:24:24

And he argued the change

would protect customers.

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An undercover film-maker revealed in

2016, examples of rickshaw drivers

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charging Chinese tourist £300 each

for a three-minute ride. And

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charging two to £300 to go half a

mile,, pedicabs increased traffic

0:24:460:24:57

delays and pollution, obstructing

legitimate business. Many play loud

0:24:570:25:04

music. Clearly not all, but on many

occasions, there are enough to ruin

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the reputation of those simply

trying to earn a living in a

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conscientious way.

0:25:120:25:13

Well Paul Scully won the right

to take his bill forward.

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But unless the Government backs it,

it won't become law.

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And that's it from me for now but do

join us on BBC Parliament at 11:00

0:25:200:25:24

on Wednesday night for a full

round up of the day

0:25:240:25:26

here at Westminster,

including Prime Ministers Questions,

0:25:260:25:28

and the Brexit secretary,

David Davis, in front

0:25:280:25:30

of the Brexit committee.

0:25:300:25:32

But for now from me, AM goodbye.

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