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I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme. | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
There's no safe limit for alcohol - even small amounts can increase | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
We'll have all the details on new official guidelines, | :00:13. | :00:18. | |
we'll answer your questions and we want to know if you plan | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
We've gathered a selection of drinkers at our own bar | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
to discuss their drinking habits, and a doctor's here, too. | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
Also today: Aid is on its way to the besieged Syrian town | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
of Madaya prompted by shocking stories of people | :00:34. | :00:34. | |
We'll talk to people with links to the town about whether enough | :00:35. | :00:42. | |
Plus later experimental songwriter Jack Garratt tops the BBC's Sound | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
He'll be here for his first TV interview to talk about his music. | :00:46. | :01:06. | |
Hello, welcome to the programme, we're on BBC Two and the BBC | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
Do get in touch with your comments and questions on the new alcohol | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
guidelines, and we'll try to answer them. | :01:15. | :01:23. | |
We will bring your comments into our discussion as well. | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
We'll also have the latest on the severe flood warnings | :01:27. | :01:28. | |
Dozens of people have been rescued from their homes near Aberdeen - | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
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by going to "add topics" and searching "Victoria Derbyshire." | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
The link between alcohol and diseases like cancer mean | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
there is no safe limit to alcohol consumption, | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
that's according to tough new guidelines from the UK's | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
The limit for what men are advised to drink is now the same as that | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
for women - 14 units of alcohol per week. | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
But what exactly does a unit of alcohol look like? | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
In a standard pint of beer like this or a large glass of wine like this | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
there is roughly two units of alcohol, stronger beers and wines | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
So under the new guidelines you could have around seven pints | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
of beer or seven glasses of wine compared to the old guidelines | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
where men would be allowed 21 units, or roughly 10 pints a week. | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
So currently one of these glasses of beer or wine would be the maximum we | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
could have each day. Women who are pregnant | :02:40. | :02:40. | |
are being told they should So here is how the | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
advice has changed. In a standard pint of beer, | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
and a large glass of wine, or two shots of spirits, | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
it is roughly two units. Stronger beers and | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
wines will have more. Previous advice was that men should | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
limit themselves to 21 units a week, Women should drink no more | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
than 14 units a week, Now, though, the new advice is that | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
men and women should both limit themselves to the same - | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
14 units per week, roughly seven Plus the advice is to give yourself | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
several alcohol free days each week But at home how many people actually | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
measure out their drinks? Doctors say the link between alcohol | :03:22. | :03:29. | |
and diseases like cancer means there is no level of drinking | :03:30. | :03:36. | |
that is completely safe. Barbara is a student | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
who's in her early 20s. Cider is her drink of choice | :03:42. | :03:43. | |
and she reckons she drinks around He's a pensioner and enjoys a good | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
tipple in the evening - which usually comes in at around | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
a half bottle at night, which we've rounded | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
to around four bottles week. And also with us is Jonathan, | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
who definitely likes his pints. He reckons he sinks | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
around 15 pints a week. We also have with us | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
Dr Ellie Cannon, who is here to help Thank you all for joining us. Roddy, | :04:07. | :04:19. | |
you seem to have the highest alcohol consumption around the table, not | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
criticising but just wondering what you think about the new guidelines, | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
you are obviously exceeding them by quite some way? I am not really | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
exceeding the upper limit of the previous guidelines. Yes, I am | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
exceeding the new guidelines. I am very concerned that we are being | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
bombarded with new studies over the last 20 or 30 years that have been | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
endless, including quite a fee which demonstrate a crossover between the | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
health benefits of drinking and the health benefits of not drinking. I | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
have read studies which show that about 35 units a week, I even found | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
one that said 63 units a week with a crossover point between teetotallers | :05:07. | :05:15. | |
and social drinkers. What I am concerned about is that every new | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
study which comes out seems to trump the previous studies. Are we know | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
saying that all those previous studies were bunkum? I don't know, | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
had to Ellie can help. Would you say you are confused or you just | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
discount everything because you don't know what to believe any more? | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
I don't discount everything, my background is scientific I | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
understand the scientific method. The studies that I have read, | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
though, seem no less thorough than the research that has gone into the | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
most recent finding. Yes, I am sceptical about the information we | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
are given. Would you change your behaviour as a result of the new | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
guidance? I constantly change my behaviour, but not very radically, I | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
think. I like to have an understanding of how I am treating | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
my body. Jonathan, what do you think about the new guidelines? I think | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
they are a little bit silly. To start with, the old guidelines, I | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
was not really sure what a unit equals and what is the amount you | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
are supposed to be drinking. Or do you find what has come out today | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
clearer, to some extent? To some extent, but on one hand we are being | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
told that any amount of alcohol is bad, but if you are going to drink, | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
only drink this much. I look up his pint glass of wine and I think it is | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
laughable. If I am going to the pub, if I am just going to have one drink | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
it would almost be better to alcohol is bad, don't drink at all. Why is | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
it laughable to just have one page? It is a little bit about the culture | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
in the UK, it is not like in continental Europe where you go out | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
and have drinks and nibbles. When I go out, the pubs shut at 11. That is | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
not saying everybody is drinking as much as they can until that point, | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
everyone has different ways of dealing with things, but I don't | :07:10. | :07:12. | |
drink excessively. I think it would be better to say alcohol is bad and | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
we recommend you don't drink anything than say there is an | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
opportune at that they will recommend that is probably quite | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
hard to stick to. Will anything today make you look at an change | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
your behaviour? I think what we are being told is pretty sensible. I | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
don't think I believe that drinking alcohol is necessarily good for you. | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
I think a lot of recommendations around taking days off are very | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
sensible. I think more recommendations and guidance around | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
how to act rather than limits in place, rather than saying don't | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
drink more than that, is sensible. The impact it has on me, when it | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
says, don't drink more than 14 units, you almost take that as a | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
headline and discount everything else. Barbara? Guidelines are | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
therefore for our safety and health. I am not sure it will massively | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
change the way that I drink because the way that I drink is probably | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
quite different to the way... Probably three pints we can average? | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
I am not a heavy drink. I mostly do with socially, sometimes they do by | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
myself but usually only when there is an event or something going on. I | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
don't think it will massively change my consumption, but it is important | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
to have a discussion about how alcohol impact health. The | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
guidelines are guidelines, it is not law, it will not be enforced, but it | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
is making people aware that alcohol impact your health and you should | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
think about a more carefully. Ellie, you are our studio doctor, do you | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
think people should sit up and take notice? It is the first time an | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
explicit link has been drawn by the Chief Medical Officer between any | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
amount of drinking, every sip of alcohol, she says, increases your | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
risk of cancer. Is Barbara said, ringing as guidelines is a good way | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
to open the discussion and get people talking. -- bringing out | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
guidelines. Within the health profession we | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
guidelines. Within the health cancers. I think the problem which | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
Roddy verbalised, which I totally agree with, there are so many | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
guidelines that come out and there are so many scientific papers that | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
one can almost look for the answer one wants and then find it. Like you | :09:33. | :09:34. | |
said, you found a paper that said one wants and then find it. Like you | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
about 63 units. In fairness to the Chief Medical Officer, this is not | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
about 63 units. In fairness to the just one study, it is a collation | :09:44. | :09:45. | |
about 63 units. In fairness to the all about the scientific knowledge, | :09:46. | :09:47. | |
so I genuinely believe that these guidelines are probably correct, but | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
it gets diverted by all of the health messages we are bombarded by. | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
-- pets die looted. I am not surprised that as the lay public you | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
are confused and sceptical. What the Chief Medical Officer is saying, | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
Roddy, it is about what people regard as unacceptable level of | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
risk. Boiling down your level of alcohol consumption on a risk | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
analysis, you have a one in ten chance at least of dying of | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
something that is a direct result of alcohol consumption. And a nine in | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
ten chance of dying alcohol consumption. And a nine in | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
related to alcohol. I am concerned about the sheer volume... So on | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
related to alcohol. I am concerned point about the risk, you are saying | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
nine in ten chance of not, you think one in ten is a risk you are happy | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
to take? I am going to die of something. And the trouble with | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
writs, and I have this conversation a lot in GP surgeries, you should | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
not be smoking, doing this or that, Roddy's risk of dying from an | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
alcohol-related disease is combines with the risks by the arrest of his | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
life behaviour. Perhaps he is a marathon runner and that reduces his | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
risk, perhaps he does other positive things within his diet that reduces | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
risk. So talking to people about the risk simply from alcohol is | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
unnatural, really, because nobody lives like that. Happens if your red | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
glass of wine was as a part of Mediterranean diet, with the risk be | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
reduced? Compared to if you had your glass of wine with fast food every | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
day? Do you see what I mean? It is part of a holistic approach to life | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
which I think for an individual is very hard to way up. Barbara, to | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
health concerns come into the equation for you and risk analysis | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
when you think about how much you drink? Like Ellie just said, there | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
are so many risks when you walk out of your door in the morning that | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
something could happen to you or your lifestyle and have a really bad | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
impact on your health. It is about opening the conversation and having | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
these conversations. We want people to be open and honest about their | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
alcohol consumption and we want the Government to guide us in the limits | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
that are safe, but ultimately people had to make that choice for | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
themselves about whether it is OK to have a really bad diet and drink | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
lots of alcohol and smoke, which can increase the risk in your health of | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
you getting ill or dying, et cetera, getting cancer et cetera. I just | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
want to bring in some comments, lots of people are getting into it. Derek | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
has e-mailed saying I gave up three years ago after heart failure, don't | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
miss it but TV companies should stop showing programmes like soaps where | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
people drink and cookery programmes where alcohol is used in large | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
quantities. Mick says my father who lived until the age of 91 only drank | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
up a pub on a Friday evening, on a Saturday evening he would take my | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
wonderful mum out for a beer, no wine. Nobody got drunk or fell over. | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
Larson says I live in France and have drugs three quarters of a | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
bottle of red wine every day for the last 25 years, I have no cancer and | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
do not intend to change. Why are the French and Spanish, who drink with | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
every meal, not dropping like flies? Martin asks, Ellie, does the study | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
allow for other parallel factors? Those who drink are more likely to | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
be overweight and exercise less. This is not a study, this is a | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
collation of studies, the guidance was based on a huge body of | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
evidence. They look at what we call confounding factor does, which is | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
what I was talking about. The drinking of the red wine or beer is | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
not in isolation. -- factors. It is hard for people to weigh up risk. | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
Somebody drinking two units of alcohol every day, has a very good | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
diet, exercises and lives very well is in a different situation to | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
somebody who drinks two units a day, is eating poorly and not exercising. | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
That is a message that we had to convey to people, it is about your | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
whole lifestyle, not one issue. What we are hearing today is that every | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
sip of alcohol increases your risk of cancer. When you hear something | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
as stark as that, does it make you think again about drinking? I guess | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
it certainly makes you think harder, but the message has been down looted | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
by the fact they are not saying don't drink at all, drink up to 14 | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
units a week. -- the message has been diluted. But it is part of a | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
wider lifestyle discussion. You said you couldn't imagine going to the | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
pub for the evening and nursing one pint. How much does peer pressure | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
come into it? I don't think it is peer pressure so much as how much | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
people socialise. Would you feel odd with one point if everyone was | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
drinking lots? Absolutely not. -- one pint. What is the point of | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
guidelines for the sake of guidelines? My question would we | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
want to you want people to do with them? If you want to change my | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
behaviours, great, but is setting an arbitrary limit around alcohol going | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
to make an impact? If you are trying to convince people who are drinking | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
heavily with bad diet and bad routines to change behaviours, I | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
would suggest that these guidelines will not do anything. Perhaps the | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
better thing to do would be to take a more legislative approach and say, | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
well, currently you are allowed to have a little bit of alcohol and | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
dry. If alcohol is bad for you, why do we change it so you can drink and | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
drive at all? Things like that would be more likely to change behaviours | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
than confuse guidelines. -- can't drink and drive. I think we suffer | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
from advice overload. The newspaper I read has help advise virtually | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
every day, a new story. -- has health advice. This week we have had | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
antioxidants, but is now back in, I think, yesterday in Parliament they | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
were promoting black pudding as the new wonder food. Where will it end? | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
We have stopped taking notice. What about the way alcohol makes you | :15:56. | :16:06. | |
feel, if you would feel better potentially by not drinking with | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
people saying they have given up and they have never felt better. Would | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
that make you change? Yes, it would, but I do not drink alcohol to the | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
degree it makes me feel unwell. I never get drunk. Some people say | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
they drink alcohol to make themselves feel better. More | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
specifically, for me, as a student, there are student nights with cheap | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
alcohol. People feeling like the only way to have a good time is to | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
go out and have a drink. Maybe universities and society should | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
promote events where people do not necessarily have to get drunk to | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
have a good time and can meet people. I am a student going to | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
university and meeting new people and there is emphasis on the big | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
night, getting drunk, and discounts on alcohol. It would definitely make | :16:59. | :17:05. | |
you go over the limit, at university, and have a negative | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
impact on health. It is about encouraging people you can have a | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
good time without alcohol and possibly win it, but it is finding a | :17:14. | :17:21. | |
balance. Do guidelines from the Chief Medical Officer, Department of | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
Health, get to the right people? Probably not. A storyline on a soap | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
opera, would it do more good than guidelines? We saw this many times | :17:32. | :17:43. | |
with survived -- cervical cancer. After the death of Jade Goody, that | :17:44. | :17:52. | |
is what brought people into surgeries for screening. Is it the | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
right way to get the message out there? We can bring in comments from | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
people watching. A tweet from Stuart saying there is a rise in | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
alcohol-related liver disease and it could only be good to cut down | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
alcohol. Gary says he cannot C 18-year-old is following the | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
guidelines. Wendy said she is worried that her husband drinks one | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
litre of June and then they have time of drinking to prove he does | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
not need drink. Thank you for your comments. | :18:28. | :18:34. | |
Experimental songwriter Jack Garratt tops | :18:35. | :18:46. | |
He'll be here for his first TV interview to talk about music. | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
And aid is on its way to the besieged Syrian town | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
of Madaya, prompted by shocking stories of people | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
We'll talk to people with links to the town about whether enough | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
Tough new guidelines on alcohol - the first major review for 20 years | :19:08. | :19:20. | |
says there's no such thing as a safe level of drinking and even a small | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
The Chief Medical Officer found the limits for men and women should be | :19:25. | :19:39. | |
the same. We have discovered more harms than we were fully aware of | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
before. That brings us to a low risk guideline for the public of 14 units | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
over a week. Heavy rain forces many people | :19:49. | :19:50. | |
in north-eastern Scotland to evacuate their homes as water | :19:51. | :19:52. | |
levels reach record highs Residents, including | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
elderly people and babies, were moved to temporary | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
accommodation after the River Don burst | :20:01. | :20:02. | |
its banks in Aberdeenshire. Police raiding a flat in Brussels | :20:03. | :20:14. | |
found suicide vests, traces of explosives and fingerprints of one | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
of the men suspected of the Paris attacks who is currently on the run. | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
The discoveries were made in a search on 10th of December. | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
The besieged Syrian town of Madaya could start receiving food aid | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
The UN said people there are reported to have been | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
It comes as medics treating refugees at camps in the Balkans say they've | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
seen a spike of people falling ill due to freezing temperatures. | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
The private security company G4S has suspended staff members at an | :20:43. | :20:54. | |
institution in Kent. Jack Garratt has topped | :20:55. | :20:56. | |
the BBC's Sound of 2016 list, The singer said he was | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
"unbelievably, overwhelmingly Carol and Bridge of Spies lead this | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
year's nominations for the BAFTAs, with Eddie Redmayne aiming to win | :21:09. | :21:16. | |
Best Actor for a second year And now the sport. A lot to | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
in The Danish Girl. And now the sport. A lot to | :21:20. | :21:36. | |
video technology could be ramped And now the sport. A lot to | :21:37. | :21:38. | |
in top-level football. Goalline And now the sport. A lot to | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
technology is already used but now the lawmaking body is | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
look at using replays to on goals, red cards, penalties. The trial | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
could happen in the FA Cup in England next season. The competition | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
returns tonight for the start of the third-round weekend. Liverpool make | :21:56. | :22:03. | |
the trip to Exeter City of League 2. The Liverpool boss is not happy with | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
the intensity of the winter schedule in England. We will hear from the | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
managers. Newspapers are reporting a training ground bust up between | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
Chelsea's Diego Costa and Oscar. While Oscar said they are still | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
friends, he said his team-mate is not want to fight. A bit of tongue | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
in cheek on social media. Michel Platini has confirmed he will not | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
run in next months fever presidential election | :22:36. | :22:37. | |
run in next months fever banned from football he was handed | :22:38. | :22:38. | |
before Christmas. which highlights the most exciting | :22:39. | :22:53. | |
new artists in music. Jack Garratt was chosen | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
by more than a hundred DJs, journalists, festival bookers, | :22:56. | :22:57. | |
bloggers and critics. Their track record is good - | :22:58. | :22:59. | |
having previously spotted the likes We will speak to Jack in just moment | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
but before that let's have a look back at some of the artists who've | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
previously taken the crown. # Should I give up, or should I just | :23:07. | :23:39. | |
keep chasing pavements? # Can I lay by your side? | :23:40. | :24:32. | |
# Next to you. I am pleased to say the 20 16th | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
winner is with me now. Congratulations. Thank you very | :24:37. | :24:44. | |
much. How are you feeling? I feel good, all right. I feel tired, I | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
have been doing lots of talking to people about this fantastic news. I | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
feel great. Very overwhelmed. I don't quite know the words yet I | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
need to describe what I am feeling but I feel great. We can listen to | :25:00. | :25:00. | |
some of your music. It is rare something comes along in | :25:01. | :25:36. | |
music and is completely different but yours is. How did you come up | :25:37. | :25:43. | |
with this sound? The sound I seem to have fallen into is one that I am | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
still learning about. I am still putting together and trying to find | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
out myself what it is but I think that is why people have seemed to | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
say it is different from some of the things available at the moment. I | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
never try to be alienating. I don't want people to think they cannot | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
listen to my music because it is too different, but I like to challenge | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
myself and that ends up challenging some listeners, but in a positive | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
way, a great way. I want to include people, so people feel like they are | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
having fun listening to my music. It is melodic on one level but jarring | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
on the other and it demands your attention, you cannot have it on | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
quietly in the background. No! I write with that in mind. The music I | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
love is music that kind of demands your attention, kind of tracks you | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
away from what you are doing. I like giving all my attention to music | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
because I love music so much and I like to dissect and analyse music. I | :26:50. | :26:58. | |
write music so that other people can do that with mine and so they can | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
also forget about life for a second and have some kind of escapism. I | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
write melodies for people to sing along to for that reason so people | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
have something they can grab onto but there are moments in the | :27:15. | :27:17. | |
background that take you from one place and drop you somewhere else. I | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
like those surprises. I like music as surprising. And beautiful music | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
videos. It is amazing to see it on a screen this big! Different layers | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
and sounds in the music and you create each of those sounds. Does | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
that make life performing difficult? Yes, but it also makes it simple, at | :27:40. | :27:46. | |
least, to think about how I will do it live because I make everything | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
myself in the studio. I therefore thought, well, I might as well do | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
everything on my own when I play live which is what I ended up doing | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
stop I play different instruments at the same time and loop certain | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
things and play certain things together, like the guitar and drums | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
and keys and bass and singing all the while. A lot of people deemed it | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
as being a modern one-man band. We can listen a little bit and you can | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
talk us through it and tell us what is coming in in terms of instruments | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
you are playing and what you have done with it. This is a song of mine | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
called Weathered. One of the oldest I have written. This is all me on | :28:29. | :28:35. | |
this record and there is a lot of piano and guitars and drums I am | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
playing. When I do this live, I loop some piano riffs that drop in and | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
out at certain parts of the song and then I have drum sample set up and | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
the whole time I have a guitar around my neck which I swing behind | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
my back when I do not need it and then I played bass and drums at the | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
same time and all the while singing. Wow! How many instruments do you | :29:02. | :29:09. | |
play? I don't know. The thing I love about music and instruments is that | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
every instrument has a design to be playable. There is not an instrument | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
designed so it is impossible to play and I took that as an invitation and | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
I therefore like to pick up any instrument I see. When I was a kid, | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
my ears and hands talked very well to each other. My mind sometimes | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
gets in the middle of the conversation and messes things up, | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
but because of that as a kid I encouraged myself to pick up any | :29:40. | :29:45. | |
instrument and I would at least try to play it. My attitude is if I am | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
given an instrument I have not seen before I will try and get something | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
out of it in half an hour, an hour. Give me time to play around with | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
ideas and I will give you something at the end. It might not be | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
technically right that it will be something. An extraordinary talent. | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
It was something I noticed at a younger age when I realised not all | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
my friends could do those things and I realised it was part of my | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
character. How old were you? Probably five, six. I was at primary | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
school and realised not everyone had access to music in the way I did. I | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
grew up in a musical household with musical parents who encouraged me to | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
try everything under the sun. Presumably this talent has come from | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
within you. Yes, to have been that young and realise. At that age I did | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
not quite know what was happening, I knew I could sit at the piano and | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
play a melody I heard the day before without music and letting my ears | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
figure it out. The same with guitar. When I realised I could do it on | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
multiple instruments I realised there was something greater going on | :30:55. | :30:56. | |
I was not aware of. Your music, as a result of getting | :30:57. | :31:06. | |
this prize and other accolades, other critical acclaim, will take | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
you to a much wider audience. How do you feel? Incredibly excited. It is | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
also incredibly intimidating. There is a lot of pressure with all of | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
these accolades, as you mentioned. My job is not to win awards, my job | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
is to make the best music that I can. I haven't asked for the awards, | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
but they've been given to me. And I'm so grateful for that. I've been | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
given some incredible opportunities. But my job is to work as hard as I | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
can and create music that people enjoy, that is all I want to do, | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
create music that people enjoy and that I enjoy making. I hope I can | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
keep doing that for as long as I can. What do you think about stardom | :31:47. | :31:53. | |
and success on the level of people like Adele, who have gone before you | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
with this prize? Agog every songwriter has their own way of | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
doing everything. The great thing about art is you can be uniquely | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
creative. And the journey you take to that is as unique as you make it | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
for yourself. I can't predict that I will reach the kind of astronomical | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
heights that previous winners like Sam Smith and Adele have achieved, | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
but I can work as hard as I can. Those guys and suddenly become the | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
biggest selling artists in the world overnight, they worked hard and | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
honed their talents and their craft and became world-class musicians. I | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
can only hope to follow in those kinds of footsteps. When you talk | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
about music, you don't make it sound like work at all, you love it. Is | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
that about? Agog I am very fortunate in that my job is the thing that I | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
love to do, and because of that I don't work a day in my life. I don't | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
like getting up early in the morning, as nobody else does. But if | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
I get to talk about music, I will put bells on if I have to. Well | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
done, good luck with everything. Thank you very much, Jack. | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
Next - a fascinating insight into the relationship | :33:06. | :33:07. | |
Transcripts of candid conversations between the former US president | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
and the former Prime Minister have been released to the BBC and they're | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
far more down to Earth than you might imagine! | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
# I'm in the phone booth, it's the one across the hall | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
# If you don't answer, I'll just ring it off the wall #. | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
You know, after January I am available for | :33:28. | :33:40. | |
CHUCKLES I wouldn't say that, or you will be | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
You said you wanted to continue my work with a third wing, | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
this is it - helping Blair balance work and family. | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
CHUCKLES I could do with a bit of help. | :33:52. | :33:53. | |
Right, Bill, we will put you down on the | :33:54. | :34:01. | |
Now that would be a special relationship. | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
# Don't leave me hanging on the telephone #. | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
But in the transcripts of conversations running to more | :34:10. | :34:17. | |
My staff will not let me talk to you unless I have a banana at hand. | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
Now, Bill, I thought we should have a work | :34:21. | :34:27. | |
Intervention in Kosovo and the Northern Ireland peace | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
process were the backdrop to this bromance. | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
Between a second term Clinton and a first term Blair. | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
I want to thank you for giving Tony Blair to Great Britain | :34:38. | :34:40. | |
As they chat we get a sense of how these men view themselves. | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
There is a limit to how many times you can do this. | :34:48. | :34:50. | |
I had to just get there and listen to them for hours | :34:51. | :34:52. | |
We end up being part negotiator, part therapist, and part | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
Someday we should write a book together about these two | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
Northern Ireland figures large, though conversations don't always | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
I'm watching the end of an old Peter Sellers movie. | :35:09. | :35:17. | |
I've only seen about five minutes, but Herbert Lum just | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
I just wanted to put you in good humour since you are dealing | :35:24. | :35:37. | |
Yeah, I just wanted to bring you up to date. | :35:38. | :35:43. | |
Tony Blair's answers here are all redacted, | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
just as intriguing of the reductions in this exchange. | :35:46. | :35:47. | |
Wouldn't it be great to know what he says after that? | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
Hey, Tony, when this all comes out who do you think they will get | :35:54. | :36:02. | |
No chance, that is about as likely as Jeremy Corbyn | :36:03. | :36:09. | |
For the record, none of that was made up, | :36:10. | :36:16. | |
Coming up, we will be live in Aberdeenshire, where the elderly and | :36:17. | :36:30. | |
very young children were among those evacuated from their homes last | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
night after more heavy rain caused the River Don to overflow. Get in | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
touch if you are affected eye that, using all the usual ways. | :36:40. | :36:40. | |
The United Nations says it hopes to start delivering food on Monday | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
to the besieged Syrian town of Madaya, after the Syrian | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
government agreed to let aid convoys through. | :36:47. | :36:47. | |
Shocking stories have emerged from the town of people starving | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
Aid agencies say conditions in the rebel-held town - | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
which is near the capital Damascus - are extremely dire - | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
and people are struggling to survive with little food or medicine. | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
The UN says it also has permission for access to the government-held | :37:01. | :37:02. | |
towns of Kefraya and Fua in the north. | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
Up to 4.5 million people in Syria live in hard-to-reach areas, | :37:09. | :37:10. | |
including nearly 400,000 people in 15 besieged locations who do not | :37:11. | :37:18. | |
have access to the life-saving aid they urgently need. | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
Some are saying they've been forced to eat leaves and even earth | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
Dibeh Fakhr is from the International Committee | :37:24. | :37:31. | |
of the Red Cross - she's in Geneva. | :37:32. | :37:33. | |
And here in the studio is Muzna Al-Naib from the organisation | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
The journalist and author Ramita Navai has spent | :37:37. | :37:38. | |
Thank you all for joining us. I know that you have been in direct contact | :37:39. | :37:51. | |
with people in Madaya, what are they saying? People in Madaya are | :37:52. | :37:58. | |
desperate. They have eating cats, dogs and horses. Leaves. They have | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
been poisoned because they have been scavenging earthborn leaves -- Earth | :38:04. | :38:11. | |
believes. Two people die every day from hunger there. Parents are | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
desperate to get food for their newborn babies, there is no milk for | :38:16. | :38:27. | |
children, no medicine. This has been happening for two years. Today I got | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
a word from a Syrian grassroot aid organisation working there, and they | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
said they have one to be nations that this will happen -- they have | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
warned the United Nations that this will happen, but they had no | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
response. Hunger has been used as a weapon for two years in Syria. The | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
world knows about it, the UK Government knows about it, no one | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
has done anything. I asked yesterday what is their reaction towards the | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
announcement that food is coming. They said, first of all, no aid has | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
reached so far. That means that 50 people within 24 hours will die. | :39:07. | :39:15. | |
They need food now. The International Committee of the | :39:16. | :39:18. | |
Red Cross should be able to get aid in on Monday, bring us up to date | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
with the latest? Good morning. Indeed, we got the authorisation | :39:24. | :39:30. | |
yesterday to go to Madaya, Fuaa and Kefraya to bring much-needed | :39:31. | :39:32. | |
assistance to the people who are there. We don't know yet when the | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
operation will take place. Our teams in Syria are preparing, we will work | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
together. We really hope it will take place very soon. Indeed, what I | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
can say from what we saw when we were in Madaya in October 2015, the | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
situation was indeed very dire. We saw the hunger in the eyes of the | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
people, we saw despair, mothers unable to breast-feed their newborn | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
babies. The situation in Madaya and other besieged areas is very | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
critical, and we should not forget, as you mentioned correctly at the | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
beginning, it is not only Madaya. There are half a million people | :40:10. | :40:13. | |
living in besieged or hard to reach our area is not getting any | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
humanitarian assistance for a long time. What will the organisation be | :40:17. | :40:24. | |
able to take him, how much stuff? Together with the other | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
organisations, we will look. There is the Red Crescent and there are UN | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
agencies. Then we can bring everything that is needed for the | :40:33. | :40:35. | |
population. That there will definitely be food and non-food | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
items. That'll be the top priority. The last time we were there we | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
delivered medicines, enough for two months. I will not give details of | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
speculate about the operation as such, I preferred to speak about it. | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
That Christie converted once takes place. Our priority or our call | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
today is to all those involved in the Syrian conflict, a 1-shot | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
delivery of assistance to a besieged area is not the solution. What you | :41:07. | :41:13. | |
meant Terry and organisations need its regular, unimpeded and safe | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
access to all areas where there are huge needs in Syria today. You were | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
there at the start of the siege in Madaya, take us back. That was a few | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
years ago. What was it like? It is not a poor time, it looks beautiful, | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
it is in a really beautiful mountainous area. People there are | :41:33. | :41:38. | |
quite wealthy. That has to do with why the protests were so strong. It | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
is economically independent of the state. So few people there a lie on | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
state jobs, most are in agriculture. That is why they had the | :41:50. | :41:52. | |
independence and they were brave enough to protest. It was one of the | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
first towns to hold regular Friday protest, Madaya. While I was there, | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
the town was besieged by government forces for three days. I was trapped | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
in a safe house with three activists who were wanted. We were very lucky, | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
the activists were very lucky, the road we were in was raided and we | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
heard men screaming as they were beaten and taken away. Those men | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
disappeared, never to be seen again. If people want to leave now, can | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
they? It is impossible. I was speaking to people in Madaya last | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
night, the whole town is surrounded by checkpoints and barbed wire. If | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
you leave you are shot, if not, government forces have planted | :42:39. | :42:41. | |
landmines all around the town. The people I was talking to are really | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
scared. They are hungry and very cold. I would say that they have | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
heard many promises that aid will be lasted through, they are not getting | :42:51. | :42:56. | |
their hopes up. They said to me, it is like a prison, we feel like a | :42:57. | :43:03. | |
walking dead. Why has Madaya become such a focus for the raging? It is | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
not just Madaya, there are many other towns. What has changed is | :43:09. | :43:16. | |
that the media paid attention. What happens when the media spotlight has | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
gone? People are hungry before this and after this. This has been going | :43:21. | :43:27. | |
on since 2011? The revolution has been going on since 2011, at least | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
500,000 people have been killed, thousands are imprisoned and dying | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
under torture. Bombs are falling every single day in besieged areas. | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
And hunger and starvation is going on as a weapon. They are trying to | :43:44. | :43:52. | |
wipe the Syrian population out. This has been going on since 2011. No one | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
is doing anything about it. Syrians in the UK have been calling for the | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
protection of civilians to be the priority of everything. No one is | :44:05. | :44:08. | |
listening to us. We know that the protection of civilians is keen to | :44:09. | :44:15. | |
fighting guys should, the key to a political solution and any relief in | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
Syria -- the key to fighting Daesh. When we called the government in | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
Syria not to drop bombs, they did not listen. I want to call the | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
Government to drop food. Listen to the civilians, listen to your | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
taxpayers. I can bet you that each mother in the UK would prefer that | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
food would be dropped rather than mother in the UK would prefer that | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
arms on Syria. Thank you, all three. What you think of the new guidelines | :44:42. | :44:49. | |
on booze? We will be putting your questions to one of the authors of | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
the new report today which says that every sip of alcohol increases your | :44:55. | :44:56. | |
chances of getting cancer. Let's catch up on the latest weather | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
with Carol. We have been talking | :45:03. | :45:17. | |
These records We have been talking | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
The previous record was millimetres. Arboyne is in | :45:22. | :45:40. | |
Aberdeenshire. The Scottish environment protection agency has | :45:41. | :45:42. | |
two environment protection agency has | :45:43. | :45:45. | |
means there is imminent danger to life and to property and this is the | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
flood line number if anybody wants to call it. The question I am asked | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
is when this. . It. Quite soon. Next week, winter is arriving. We spoke | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
yesterday about the season and I know you like them and I do, as | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
well. This will be a shock to the system because already we have cold | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
air in Scotland and parts of northern England and Northern | :46:11. | :46:13. | |
Ireland. That will move south. You can see the blue penetrating the | :46:14. | :46:25. | |
British Isles. The source of this is coming down from the door. That | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
means that inland, the tendency is it will be drier. Along the coast, | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
we are likely to see wintry showers, which is good news for the flooded | :46:37. | :46:38. | |
areas, but we will have which is good news for the flooded | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
snow around, which is more like you expected winter. And with the ground | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
saturated and temperatures getting that low, it will be pretty | :46:48. | :46:48. | |
horrible. You are right. This that low, it will be pretty | :46:49. | :46:57. | |
morning there were icy stretches. It has been a cold start. It is cold at | :46:58. | :47:04. | |
the moment, between -4 and 5 degrees in many parts of the UK. We have | :47:05. | :47:11. | |
been used to ten, 11th, 12 degrees. Change is afoot. See you later. The | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
reason for the change is because we see a change in air mass. Today we | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
have low pressure dominating and this is producing showers and some | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
snow on the hills in northern England and southern Scotland. We | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
have seen rain this morning. It was raining across the north-east of | :47:32. | :47:35. | |
Scotland earlier, but these showers are across the western parts of | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
northern England. Those in northern England move into southern Scotland | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
and those in the west travelling to the east, heading to East Anglia and | :47:45. | :47:50. | |
Kent. On either side, there will be sunny spells. It will feel cold. | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
Particularly where the temperatures are nowhere in the northern half of | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
the country. In the afternoon we have rain, sleet and snow. And then | :48:00. | :48:07. | |
we run into rain, sleet and snow in the Southern uplands. In Northern | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
Ireland and northern England there will be showers and on the highest | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
ground it could be wintry. In England and Wales, as showers | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
stripped to the south-east, it will brighten up beautifully and so after | :48:22. | :48:26. | |
a wet start, we are looking at a lot of sunshine, but no great shakes in | :48:27. | :48:31. | |
terms of temperatures. Overnight, we will have rain, sleet and snow, but | :48:32. | :48:37. | |
there will be clear skies, meaning the temperature will drop quickly. | :48:38. | :48:46. | |
There is the risk of ice. We will have rain sweeping in from the | :48:47. | :48:50. | |
south, which is why temperatures here are higher. The -8 in the | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
Highlands and Grampians is what we expect over the places where we have | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
lying snow. Bitterly cold here. At the weekend low pressure will | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
dominate. Rattling across and at times showers and at times it will | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
be breezy. As we head into the new week, we will see the change in | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
temperature. On Saturday, showers moving north with hill snow. A lot | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
of showers coming in behind across England and Wales and it will be | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
breezy. In north of Scotland we hang on to the rain and some Hill snow. | :49:28. | :49:36. | |
And a wintry mix at lower levels. On Sunday, if anything, it is a quieter | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
day weather-wise. It means there will be more rain across the North | :49:42. | :49:44. | |
and north-west of Scotland with showers around the coasts. | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme if you've | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
No-one should be drinking every day - and every sip of alcohol | :49:52. | :49:59. | |
That's the warning published in new guidelines by the UK's | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
We've been asking about people what they make of the guidelines. | :50:05. | :50:12. | |
I suggest the guidelines will not do everything and perhaps the better | :50:13. | :50:19. | |
way is to take a legislative approach and say it currently you | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
are allowed a little alcohol. If alcohol is bad for you, why not | :50:24. | :50:27. | |
change it so you cannot drink and drive at all. As a student, their | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
student nights with cheap alcohol and people feeling the only way to | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
have a good time is to have a drink. Maybe universities and society | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
should against where people do not necessarily have to to get drunk to | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
have a good time. What do these guidelines mean? We will be joined | :50:48. | :50:53. | |
by Sir Ian Gilmore, who is a liver specialist to help to write the | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
guidelines. He will answer your questions. | :50:57. | :50:57. | |
Homes in parts of Aberdeenshire have been evacuated after heavy rain | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
And on a mission to make school exciting, Tim Peake chats to pupils | :51:02. | :51:15. | |
live from space as he prepares for his first spacewalk next week. | :51:16. | :51:21. | |
Tough new guidelines on alcohol - the first major review for 20 years | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
says there's no such thing as a "safe level of drinking" | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
and warns even a small amount can raise the risk of cancer. | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
The UL's chief medical officers also found that the limits for both men | :51:39. | :51:41. | |
We've discovered there are more harms than we were fully aware | :51:42. | :51:52. | |
of before and that brings us to a low risk guideline | :51:53. | :51:55. | |
for the public of 14 units over the week. | :51:56. | :51:57. | |
Heavy rain has forced many people in northern-eastern Scotland | :51:58. | :51:59. | |
to evacuate their homes, as water levels reached record highs | :52:00. | :52:01. | |
Residents, including elderly people and babies, | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
were moved to temporary accommodation after the River Don | :52:07. | :52:08. | |
Police raiding a flat in Brussels have found suicide vests, | :52:09. | :52:15. | |
traces of explosives, and the fingerprints | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
of Salah Abdeslam, one of the men suspected of the Paris attacks | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
The discoveries were made during a search on December 10th. | :52:23. | :52:33. | |
The besieged rebel-held Syrian town of Madaya could start receiving food | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
aid from Monday, the UN says. | :52:37. | :52:37. | |
People there are reported to have been dying of starvation. | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
It comes as medics treating refugees at camps in the Balkans say they've | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
seen a sharp increase in the number of people falling ill due | :52:45. | :52:46. | |
The private security company G4S has suspended seven members of staff | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
from a secure training centre for young offenders in Kent. | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
The police are investigating allegations of abuse | :52:54. | :52:54. | |
A huge bushfire that devastated a small town is still burning out | :52:55. | :53:03. | |
Half of the buildings in Yarloop, south of Perth, have been destroyed | :53:04. | :53:10. | |
and three people are reported to be missing. | :53:11. | :53:16. | |
Jack Garratt has topped the BBC's Sound of 2016 list, | :53:17. | :53:24. | |
which celebrates new and up and coming artists in music. | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
The singer said he was "unbelievably, overwhelmingly | :53:29. | :53:29. | |
Carol and Bridge of Spies lead this year's nominations for the BAFTAs, | :53:30. | :53:40. | |
with Eddie Redmayne aiming to win Best Actor for a second year | :53:41. | :53:43. | |
in a row for his role in The Danish Girl. | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Hugh. | :53:48. | :53:50. | |
Is football finally about to embrace video technology? | :53:51. | :53:58. | |
Remember this moment? Maradona's famous goal against England and | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
incidents like that could be a thing of the past after football | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
authorities rubber-stamped a trial in video technology. This might have | :54:10. | :54:12. | |
been 30 years ago, but it is talked about as one of the most | :54:13. | :54:18. | |
controversial World Cup incidents. The international lawmaking body | :54:19. | :54:21. | |
have recommended experimenting with video technology for things like | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
girls and red cards. A final decision will be made at the board's | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
final meeting in March. We are trying to nail some of the | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
fundamental moments in football that we think video assistance can assist | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
the referee. They include girls and penalties. The reality is it is a | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
referee, it is a difficult job, one person and two eyes. In many games | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
we have sometimes 20 cameras, millions of people watching the | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
game. We have to do what we can to assist the referee. The game is | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
getting faster and the stakes are higher and we have to support the | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
referee to make the right decisions. If it is approved, we could see | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
video technology used in next season's FA Cup and Scottish cup. | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
Both tournaments return this weekend and in England there is a David and | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
Goliath encounter as Exeter City take on Liverpool tonight. It is | :55:22. | :55:28. | |
live on BBC One from 730 B. The 500 mile trip to the West Country is | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
Liverpool's 10th game since December, which is disappointed | :55:33. | :55:43. | |
Jurgen Klopp. At this moment, it is not too much joy. Of course. | :55:44. | :55:46. | |
Jurgen Klopp. At this moment, it is then we have five, six days. | :55:47. | :55:56. | |
Jurgen Klopp. At this moment, it is until Friday. Wednesday. So it is | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
almost a break! LAUGHTER. I think about flying on holiday! I | :56:02. | :56:11. | |
say it is a normal game -- not a normal game. They have to find a way | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
of playing their best and I have to find a way of getting the players to | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
play their best and to feel free in their play and to be full of energy | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
and endeavour. I understand the practicalities of the challenge. Off | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
the field of play, a sour moment for Michel Platini, the man many | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
believed might take charge of world football. But after Fifa handed him | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
an eight-year ban after what they football. But after Fifa handed him | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
deem to be a disloyal payment, he will not stand in the election next | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
month. He said injustice is revolting him and he is trying to | :56:50. | :56:53. | |
fight it. That is all the sport but we will be back at 10:30am, speaking | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
to the editor of the Liverpool pod casts. | :56:59. | :57:01. | |
Thank you for joining us this morning. | :57:02. | :57:03. | |
Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us, | :57:04. | :57:05. | |
we're on BBC 2 and the BBC News Channel until 11 this morning. | :57:06. | :57:12. | |
A lot of you getting in touch about our interview with Jack Garrett. | :57:13. | :57:21. | |
Harriet said, congratulations for winning Sound Of 2016. What a nice | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
guy. Said she saw him play in a cellar somewhere and knew he would | :57:26. | :57:31. | |
go interstellar! Also this morning, we will answer your questions on the | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
new alcohol guidelines keep your questions coming will stop there is | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
still time if you want to join the conversation. Text messages are | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
charged at the standard network rate and you can watch the programme | :57:44. | :57:44. | |
online where ever you are. And you can also subscribe | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
to all our features on the news app, by going to "add topics" | :57:49. | :57:51. | |
and searching "Victoria Derbyshire." In the first new guidelines to be | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
published on alcohol for twenty years, the UK's | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
Chief Medical Officers say there is no safe limit for drinking | :58:03. | :58:04. | |
and even consuming small amounts The advice is that everyone should | :58:05. | :58:07. | |
have alcohol-free days and avoid binge drinking - and the limit | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
for men is now the same as women, But what does a unit | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
of alcohol look like? In a standard pint of | :58:17. | :58:24. | |
beer or a large glass - 175ml - of wine there is roughly | :58:25. | :58:27. | |
two units of alcohol - stronger beers and wines | :58:28. | :58:32. | |
will have more. So under the new guidelines | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
you could have around seven pints of beer or seven glasses of wine | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
compared to the old guidelines where men would be allowed 21 units | :58:39. | :58:40. | |
or roughly ten pints a week. Women who are pregnant | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
are being told they should So what exactly do the new | :58:45. | :58:46. | |
guidelines mean you can drink In a standard pint | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
of beer, and a large glass of wine, or two shots | :58:52. | :59:00. | |
of spirits, it is roughly two units. Stronger beers and | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
wines will have more. Previous advice was that men should | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
limit themselves to 21 units a week, around a pint | :59:09. | :59:10. | |
and a half per day. Women should drink no more | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
than 14 units a week, Now, though, the new advice is that | :59:16. | :59:17. | |
men and women should both limit themselves to the same - | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
14 units per week, roughly seven Plus the advice is to give yourself | :59:23. | :59:25. | |
several alcohol free days each week But at home how many people actually | :59:26. | :59:31. | |
measure out their drinks? Doctors say the link | :59:32. | :59:39. | |
between alcohol and diseases like cancer means there is no level | :59:40. | :59:46. | |
of drinking that is completely safe. Sir Ian Gilmore - helped to write | :59:47. | :59:56. | |
the guidelines and is chair of the Alcohol Health Alliance | :59:57. | :00:03. | |
as well as being a liver specialist Thank you for coming in. Good | :00:04. | :00:11. | |
morning. They have got people talking and a lot of people unhappy. | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
How did you arrive at the guidelines? They needed updating. It | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
was 20 years since the last guidelines, which were for daily | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
limits coming on top of guidelines previously for weekly limits and | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
there was confusion about whether we should talk about daily or weekly. | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
Science has moved on with a lot of evidence gathered that needed to be | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
taken into account. Why reduce the limits for men? Nothing has changed | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
for women in terms of the maximum per week, but it is men who will see | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
a difference. The guidelines are the same for women as they work in 1987, | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
up to 14 units. Men are more at risk in the short-term harm from alcohol, | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
violence and accidents, which is not surprising. The other reason is that | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
there probably is some beneficial effect on the heart, but that effect | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
is smaller than previously thought because heart disease is getting | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
less frequent. People do more exercise, there are drugs for BP, | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
but if there is any beneficial effect, it probably only kicks in | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
for women and not men, and probably only over the age of 55. | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
Loads of people are commenting, Nigel Farage from Ukip has said | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
there should be a mass protest over what he calls nannying guidelines, | :01:37. | :01:43. | |
he says it is over the top. I suspect Nigel has not read them. | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
They are not a nanny state. They are saying, if you wish to keep your | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
risks at a low level, you would be advised to do the following. We're | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
not telling people what to do, but if we suppress the fact that there | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
is an emerging link between alcohol and cancer, we would be criticised. | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
It is only right that people should know when evidence is emerging, it | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
is not just one study, there is an emerging body of evidence linking | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
alcohol to cancer as well is better known diseases like cirrhosis and | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
high blood pressure. People have the right to make their decision based | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
on knowing the risks, that is not nanny state. Everything will sip of | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
alcohol increases your chance of getting cancer? -- every single sip | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
of? Wobble two drinks a day will increase the risk, possibly 12-macro | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
a week. For breast cancer it does not seem that there is a safe limit, | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
but within the recommended limits, the so-called low with guidelines, | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
the risks are very small. Everything in life carries a risk, driving to | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
work in the morning carries a risk. The risks of drinking within the | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
recommended guidelines is very low. Your chances of dying of an | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
alcohol-related disease are probably about 1% or less if you drink 14 | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
units a week. Gill has e-mailed to ask why do we hear so little about | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
the different strengths of alcohol? People always say guidelines are | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
confusing, and when there are variables and you try to boil it | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
down to something straightforward like these being the acceptable... | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
What is the amount you should be drinking purdah, it is not take into | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
account different strengths. -- amount you should be drinking each | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
day. We thought long and hard about units. They have been criticised | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
greatly. When they were brought out, it was on the rationale that a half | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
pint of ordinarily be, a small glass of wine or a pub measure of spirits | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
are all one unit. That is fairly simple. But drinks have got stronger | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
and glasses have got larger. Whatever system you bring in, you | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
run into the same problem. There is no internationally agreed standard. | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
Most countries talk about a standard drink, a standard drink in Australia | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
or the States is roughly similar to one of our units. Neal asks if we | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
are to make alcohol changes we would need to think of cultural changes, | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
how do you begin that? These guidelines are only part of a | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
package. We need follow-up work to see whether people pay attention. | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
They had to be linked to other measures. We would love to see a | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
mass media campaign around this, trying to get the information over | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
to the public. We would love to see changes to labelling on bottles. At | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
the moment, alcohol is exempt from EU regulations on calories. That as | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
a whole different argument? The Government at the moment relies on | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
voluntary agreements with the drinks industry on labelling, we would like | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
to see mandatory health warnings and readable warnings on bottles. How | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
would you envisage a bottle of wine like this, I suppose, thinking of | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
health warnings on cigarette packets, should it be similar? Not | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
many people will realise there is a health warning on bottles at the | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
moment encouraging women who operate them not to drink, it is so small | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
that if you don't have a magnifying glass you would probably not know it | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
is there. We want any warnings to be readable. Visual like on cigarette | :05:20. | :05:28. | |
packets? Yes. Describe what your ideal bottle would look like? It | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
would not obscure the whole bottle but it would have to be readable. | :05:33. | :05:34. | |
There are recommendations being given to Government of sites at | :05:35. | :05:43. | |
fault. Needs action. With voluntary agreements, why would the industry | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
want to put labels on bottles telling people to be careful | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
drinking their product? As a liver specialist you see the impact on a | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
liver of alcohol, most of this do not see that. Do you think if we all | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
saw that it would impact on our behaviour? I think the link with | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
cancer is important. If you talk about cirrhosis of the liver, some | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
of the disease, people go blank. But people know about cancer, almost | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
every family in the country has been touched by cancer in some way. It is | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
important that this is brought to people's attention. Joel asks | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
whether we can ask you if you drink, and how much? I do, and I drink | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
within these guidelines. I think it is important that doctors play a | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
role in this. Doctors are the vanguard of smoking cessation in | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
this country. They have not always been the vanguard of reducing | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
alcohol consumption. All health professionals will have an important | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
role. Edward asks, I am mystified by these guidelines. How can you say | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
there is no safe level of drinking and then set a limit of 14 units? It | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
does not make sense. If there is no safe limit, the level should be is | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
the row? Everything carries risks, it is risky getting out of bed but | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
it is risky staying in bed, you might get a deep vein thrombosis. | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
Everything in life carries some risk, it is a matter of trading | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
risks. If somebody sticks to the 14 unit maximum, they are very unlikely | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
to suffer alcohol-related harm, but the more you go above that, the more | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
likely it is. People drinking 35, 40 or 50 units a week, not unknown, | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
they are beginning to put themselves at risk of 10% plus of dying of an | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
alcohol-related cause. Thank you very much for joining us. | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
Pupils at a school in Hertfordshire were able to make a special call | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
this morning to speak to British astronaut Tim Peake | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
on the International Space Station as he flew overhead. | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
They had a few problems making contact with, | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
but persevered and eventually were able to hear Tim's voice - | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
They asked him questions ranging from queries about liquid hydrogen | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
to whether a helium balloon rises in space - before the seven-minute | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
call was terminated because the ISS went out of range. | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
TIM PEAKE: Hello Golf Bravo One Sierra Alpha this | :08:13. | :08:14. | |
Sierra, I read you loud and clear, over. | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
GB1SS from GB1SAN, great to hear you, Tim. | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
This is Jessica Mike Six Papa Lima Juliet | :08:24. | :08:25. | |
from Sandringham School in St Albans. | :08:26. | :08:26. | |
Are you ready for your first question, over? | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
What do you think Isaac Newton would say if he knew the name | :08:29. | :08:37. | |
of your mission was based on his book, over? | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
I would like to think that Sir Isaac Newton would be honoured | :08:41. | :08:54. | |
that we would choose the mission name in honour of his life's work, | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
and his understanding of physics and the | :08:58. | :08:59. | |
universe, which all of us are hoping to build upon. | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
Our science correspondent Rebecca Moralle at Sandringham school now. | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
Over to you. Here at the school, space mania has taken over. The kids | :09:07. | :09:16. | |
here are taking part in a challenge set by Tim Peake himself, getting | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
them to cycle the distance to the International Space Station, 400 | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
kilometres. Rather than than me! The big event this morning has been | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
kilometres. Rather than than me! The radio linkup with Tim Peake. I am | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
joined by two of the students who played a key role in this, Jessica | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
Lee and Philip Fletcher, both from year ten. Jessica, you were in | :09:40. | :09:41. | |
Lee and Philip Fletcher, both from charge of the radio contact. You had | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
to take an exam for this, what was that like? It was quite something, | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
we only had a few days to fit a few weeks' course into it and pass the | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
exam, I am really chuffed I have done it. It was nerve racking, there | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
was a lot of hissing, it took awhile to get him through? We were four | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
minutes late to establish contact, but I don't think that mattered once | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
minutes late to establish contact, we got contact, was so happy we hope | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
Tim Peake speak. Philip, you asked a question, what did you ask? I asked | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
him about his EML question, what did you ask? I asked | :10:16. | :10:23. | |
are performing, the electromagnetic limitation experiment, and how they | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
perform the rapid cooling of metals on board. It is very interesting | :10:28. | :10:29. | |
science. Do you think science right in his answer? I think | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
so! That is why I asked, I science right in his answer? I think | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
answer and he gave a good one. He explained how they perform it using | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
gases and the small explained how they perform it using | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
metals they use. I think it will be a very exciting breakthrough in | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
science. Jessica, when you were speaking to Tim, he was 400 | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
kilometres above the Earth going speaking to Tim, he was 400 | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
28,000 kilometres an hour. What was it like hearing his voice when it | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
came through? It was such a surreal experience, I don't think it has hit | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
me how big this event was, that we spoke to somebody for hundred | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
kilometres above the surface of the Earth. I think I will be in shock | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
tonight! You kept calm, especially when he could not get through. Did | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
you feel nervous? I felt nervous watching. I was surprised how calm I | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
was. When we had to keep repeating the calling, I started to get | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
nervous. But I was so happy when we got hold of him. One of the big | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
important things during this mission is to inspire young will to get into | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
science. Do you think it is working? Yeah. I am definitely inspired to | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
take up science and stem subject, technology maths and all of these. I | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
want to be a spaceman when I grow up, like Tim, it would be amazing | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
explanation Jessica, is more important -- very important to get | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
more women and girls into science, it is this inspire you? Definitely, | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
the traditional views of what women can do and what jobs they can work | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
and have changed, I would like to think of myself as representing that | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
women don't just had to be a housewife or work in traditional | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
jobs, I am very honoured. Would you fancy going up there, becoming an | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
astronaut? Definitely, I think even as a little child everybody would | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
love to be in space and experience the feeling of looking down on the | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
place you live, definitely. He is doing a spacewalk next week, will | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
you both be glued to the screen, watching? Yeah. I am so interested | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
to see how it works. It is just black. If something goes wrong... It | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
is all that stuff, very interesting. Jessica and Philip, thank you very | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
much. As you can see, the students are very inspired by this mission in | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
space. For Tim himself, he will have to start getting busy for the | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
spacewalk, he is preparing his suit at the moment. It is happening next | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
Friday. It is a busy first few weeks in space for our astronaut, Tim. | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
Coverage of the spacewalk next week. Awards season is here, we will be | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
looking at this year's BAFTA nominations, with Cate Blanchett up | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
for best actress and Eddie Redmayne hoping to win Best actor for a | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
second year running. The private security company G4S has | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
suspended seven members of staff at a secure training centre | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
for young offenders in Kent. The police are investigating | :13:38. | :13:39. | |
allegations of unnecessary Danny Shaw is our Home | :13:40. | :13:41. | |
Affairs Correspondent - and Paul Cook is managing director | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
of G4S children's services Danny, tell us what the allegations | :13:44. | :13:57. | |
are? These are serious allegations, it will be merged after a reporter | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
from BBC Panorama did some secret filming at G4S, they got a job there | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
last year. They presented a dossier of evidence. Within this dossier was | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
allegations of inappropriate use of force by staff against some of the | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
teenagers held that, allegations of assault, inappropriate use of | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
language, some allegations amounting to bullying, those are the kind of | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
things being alleged. What happened is that seven members of staff were | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
suspended. They include four team leaders and two duty operations | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
managers, all male members of staff. Some of the less experienced members | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
of staff of those suspended. As well as that we understand that the | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
allegations related to ten of the young people held at the centre at | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
Medway. These are all boys aged between 14 and 17. Those are the | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
people who the allegations relate to. There is clearly an | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
investigation ongoing. While that is taking place, my understanding is | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
that no more young people will be moved to the centre, it currently | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
holds around 56 young people, mostly boys, teenage boys, many convicted | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
of serious offences. That should be remembered as well. But clearly this | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
is a very serious matter. We will be speaking to be an ageing director of | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
G4S children services after you. Give us more background on G4S, this | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
is not the first controversy? It is a big company that has | :15:30. | :15:41. | |
operations also abroad. It runs secure training centres and what | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
happened last year is the contract for G4S to run a centre in | :15:48. | :15:55. | |
Northamptonshire was removed after a damning inspection reports, but the | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
contract to run Medway was renewed until 2021. They have a troubled | :15:59. | :16:08. | |
history of Medway. There was a riot after it opened in 1988. It had a | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
troubled beginning but settle down in recent years that these | :16:14. | :16:16. | |
allegations painted in a different light. As for G4S, not only the | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
problems here but the Olympics fiasco, many will remember that. As | :16:23. | :16:29. | |
well as the fact that three of its former staff went on trial, | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
acquitted of the manslaughter of a person escorted out of the country, | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
that happened last year. There is a long history to this company, | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
although it will say it runs many of its operations very well. We can | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
bring in Paul Cook, the managing director of G4S children's services | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
in the UK. Did G4S have any idea what was going on before Panorama | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
did its undercover reporting? Good morning, thank you very much for | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
giving me the opportunity to speak to you. These are extremely shocking | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
allegations and have their part in our business or in any establishment | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
that looks after young people. We were unaware of these allegations | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
until the Panorama sent them to us and we took immediate action to | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
report them to the police and local authorities, safeguarded the CCTV | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
footage and documentation to aid the police enquiry and we suspended the | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
staff. What is extremely disappointing is that although it is | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
a secure facility, it is not in isolation. There are other agencies | :17:40. | :17:46. | |
who work at the centre and the youth justice board have a monitor there. | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
They have a contract with children's charity Barnardo 's to see every | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
child each week. The NHS have staff you see children twice a day as well | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
as the children being able to take private calls in their rooms which | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
includes opportunities to ring helplines as well as visitors and | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
their youth offending team. So these allegations were not picked up by | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
any of us and that is extremely concerning. Is it your job to pick | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
up any allegations? Absolutely, and we do that. But you did not. Just to | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
come in there, you did not pick up the allegations until a reporter | :18:28. | :18:35. | |
went in. There was no allegation made relating to these allegations | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
by any of the young people or by any of the other staff or by anybody | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
speaking to the other agencies. So none of those was picked up. That is | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
what will form part of a wider review once the police investigation | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
has been completed. So these young people are being let down? Obviously | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
if the staff behaved in the way described in Panorama, that is | :19:02. | :19:08. | |
appalling behaviour, and it will not be accepted and we expect that | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
investigation to thoroughly look at that and following that, when we | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
know the outcome of that, all of us connected with the system will see | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
systems are in place to protect young people and if there are | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
failings, we will immediately take steps to rectify them. What does | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
your company do to try to ensure correct standards are maintained at | :19:35. | :19:37. | |
all times, whatever the conditions staff operate under? First of all, | :19:38. | :19:47. | |
staff recruited. They have a vigorous vetting programme that | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
includes their references, employment history and an enhanced | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
disclosure and barring scheme undertaken by the scheme, which not | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
only looks at whether people have criminal convictions, or whether | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
there is soft information about them. They might associate with | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
people who are inappropriate. They would not be recruited. They take an | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
eight week training course, some of it delivered by ourselves, they meet | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
the youth Justice board, Barnardo's have traders. Until that is | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
completed and the checks are done the board will not approve anyone to | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
go on site to work with young people. We have a range of | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
mechanisms ourselves to try to ensure by speaking to young people, | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
direct visits, walks around the site regularly, and young people have | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
access to complaints boxes and can speak to people at any time. Those | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
are the processes as well as the external agencies I have described | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
that people have access to, are in place currently. The fact | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
whistle-blowers went to the media and apparently not anyone within the | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
organisation, seems to indicate whether it is fair or not that they | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
felt they would not have had a proper hearing, is that a fair | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
assumption to make? I don't believe it is a fair assumption because | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
there are other people on site anybody could go to. The youth | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
Justice board are there all the time. Staff have access to | :21:17. | :21:24. | |
performance monitors and to Barnardo's, health care | :21:25. | :21:26. | |
professionals, as well. There are a range of people permanently on site | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
who are not our own staff. A lot of staff to report issues directly to | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
us if they feel anybody has not behaved appropriately and they are | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
immediately actioned and referred to the safeguarding team and local | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
authorities and so staff to report if they have concerns themselves. | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
The taxpayer plays G4S ?140,000 per child per and to look after children | :21:51. | :21:58. | |
in Medway. G4S has lost a contract previously as a result of previous | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
controversy, is this a contract that should now be looked at? It will run | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
several more years. Do you think, in spite of your position, it would be | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
right for the contract to be looked at? The first task is for us to | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
fully cooperate as we are doing and safeguard information for the police | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
investigation, which it is doing. Once that is concluded we will look | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
at issues and ensure all the children we have there are safely | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
looked after and that is our priority. Those other matters you | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
talked about are down the line, the first priority is to ensure the | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
investigation is first priority is to ensure the | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
place and any actions we will act upon. Paul Cook, thank you very | :22:46. | :22:46. | |
much. As people are evacuated from their | :22:47. | :22:48. | |
still to come before 11. As people are evacuated from their | :22:49. | :22:58. | |
homes in Aberdeenshire, we will have the latest on the situation. | :22:59. | :23:05. | |
Award season is here - we'll be taking a look at this years | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
BAFTA nominations with Eddie Redmayne aiming to win | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
Best Actor for a second year in a row. | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
The private security company G4S has suspended seven members of staff | :23:13. | :23:24. | |
from a secure centre for young offenders in Kent. Police are | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
investigating allegations of abuse and mistreatment. | :23:28. | :23:29. | |
There's no such thing as a "safe level of drinking - | :23:30. | :23:31. | |
the first major review for 20 years warns even a small amount can | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
Tough new guidelines have cut recommended drinking limits and made | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
them the same for both men and women. | :23:39. | :23:40. | |
We've discovered there are more harms than we were fully aware | :23:41. | :23:43. | |
of before and that brings us to a low risk guideline | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
for the public of 14 units over the week. | :23:47. | :23:55. | |
Rescue teams have had to evacuate dozens of people from their homes | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
in northern-eastern Scotland as heavy rain caused the river Don | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
Water levels reached record highs in some areas. | :24:02. | :24:10. | |
Food aid could be delivered to residents of the besieged | :24:11. | :24:12. | |
rebel-held Syrian town of Madaya from Monday, | :24:13. | :24:14. | |
Food aid could be delivered to residents of the besieged | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
rebel-held Syrian town of Madaya from Monday, | :24:21. | :24:22. | |
Many people there are reported to be starving to death. | :24:23. | :24:25. | |
It comes as medics treating refugees at camps in the Balkans say they've | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
seen a sharp increase in the number of people falling ill due | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
Police raiding a flat in Brussels have found suicide vests, | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
traces of explosives, and the fingerprints | :24:36. | :24:36. | |
of Salah Abdeslam, one of the men suspected of the Paris attacks | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
The discoveries were made during a search on December 10th. | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
Jack Garratt has topped the BBC's Sound of 2016 list, | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
which celebrates new and up and coming artists in music. | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
The singer said he was "unbelievably, overwhelmingly | :24:55. | :24:55. | |
Carol and Bridge of Spies lead this year's nominations for the BAFTAs, | :24:56. | :25:06. | |
with Eddie Redmayne aiming to win Best Actor for a second year | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
in a row for his role in The Danish Girl. | :25:10. | :25:27. | |
Armed police are patrolling parts of Manchester after a spate of | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
suspected gang shootings. Six out of eight shootings | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
in the past two weeks have been One man's been arrested on suspicion | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
of attempted murder. Greater Manchester Chief Constable | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
Ian Hopkins says it's worrying but it's not a return to the levels | :25:42. | :25:43. | |
of violence which earned the city We can speak now to Tony Lloyd, | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
who's the Police and Crime Commissioner for the Greater | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
Manchester Police force area. I think he might have just | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
disappeared. We will try to get back in touch with Tony Lloyd. Let's go | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
back to that as soon as we can. Apologies for that. I heard a noise | :26:03. | :26:04. | |
that indicated it was disappearing. Let's return to the flooding | :26:05. | :26:12. | |
which has been going Heavy rain has been hitting northern | :26:13. | :26:14. | |
and eastern Scotland in recent days, with the worst hit areas | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
near Inverurie in Aberdeenshire. The main railway line | :26:19. | :26:20. | |
between Aberdeen and Dundee Severe flood warnings remain | :26:21. | :26:22. | |
in place in Inverurie and Kintore, where the River Don | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
has burst its banks. Aberdeen airport - | :26:26. | :26:27. | |
situated close to the river - was forced to close overnight | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
after heavy rain caused a hole Richard Brown is the head | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
of hydrology at the Scottish Environment Protection Agency | :26:33. | :26:41. | |
and he is in our Inverness studio. Thanks for joining us. What do you | :26:42. | :26:50. | |
make of the levels of flooding we are seeing? Good morning, as you | :26:51. | :26:58. | |
have highlighted, a serious situation has developed in the | :26:59. | :27:00. | |
north-east of Scotland following severe weather earlier in the month | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
and December's whether, as well. This morning we have 37 community | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
level flood warnings and in addition two severe flood warnings in the | :27:12. | :27:19. | |
communities of Inverurie and Kintore. When you get rain at the | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
level we are seeing, levels already being broken for January, is there | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
much that can be done? The main thing people can do is be aware of | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
what is going on around them, with the latest information on the flood | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
line system. Perhaps we could remind viewers. Oh wait 459 881188. -- | :27:38. | :27:54. | |
08459 881188. What is the best advice to people affected right now | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
than to fear the flood waters will affect them? The best advice is to | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
be aware of what is going on and keep away from fast moving water. | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
The issue of a severe warning is not taken lightly, it means a danger to | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
life as well as property and the advice is to listen to emergency | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
services' advice. We have seen evacuations overnight. The situation | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
today will improve gradually. Peak water levels have been recorded on | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
some of the main rivers in the north-east. In one of our other jobs | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
-- the agency's other jobs is monitoring waters across Scotland. | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
Our gauging station upstream of Inverurie, last night that level, | :28:39. | :28:46. | |
the flow was eclipsed from previous records. How do flood to compare | :28:47. | :28:58. | |
with what has gone before? Well, as I have said, the levels exceeded | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
anything we have recorded in 45 years. Just upstream of Inverurie, | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
and across other parts of the north-east of Scotland. Write down | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
into Tayside, the flooding over the past week and especially last night | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
and today was well forecast. We work closely with the Met Office and we | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
give the best advice to police and emergency partners and local | :29:26. | :29:27. | |
authorities to ensure people can take whatever action possible to | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
mitigate damage. Number one is keeping out of the effects of the | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
flood water and doing what they can by moving valuable property | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
upstairs. Every time there is flooding, there are questions about | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
flood management, whether the right flood management provisions are in | :29:46. | :29:48. | |
place, whether lessons can be learned next time. Looking at what | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
is going on, do you see anything that might be learned from this to | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
try to prevent something extant? We are always learning from what has | :29:58. | :30:05. | |
taken place in the past. We are looking to implement the flood risk | :30:06. | :30:08. | |
management act which comes from a European directive and from that we | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
have a set of strategies for the first time across Scotland, which | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
will be launched on Monday by the government minister. This will be | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
followed by local flood risk management plans coming into force | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
across Scotland and it means for the first time a consistent national | :30:25. | :30:28. | |
risk-based approach will be taken to flood risk management and the | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
measures taken will be prioritised and put into effect over the coming | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
years. Thank you very much for joining us. | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
Medics working at refugee aid camps in the Balkans say they're seeing | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
a spike in the number of migrants falling ill, | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
Temperatures have fallen to as low as minus 11 degrees in the region. | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
The BBC's Global Health Correspondent Tulip Mazumdar has | :30:51. | :30:52. | |
travelled from Macedonia, through Serbia to the border | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
This is the town of Sid, and it's right at the Serbian | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
As you can see, these people are getting ready for the final leg | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
of their journey out of Serbia towards Croatia. | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
It's been a very long and cold journey to get here. | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
They have hit the time where there has been the most snow | :31:11. | :31:12. | |
that there has been in the last few months, about four inches, | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
it has hit minus eight degrees at night. | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
If we come over this way, you will be able to see people | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
And over here is Sanja Djurica from the International Medical Corps | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
Has the snow had an impact on the number of people coming, | :31:29. | :31:36. | |
the dropping temperatures over the last couple of weeks? | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
Yes, it has a little bit of input, because one month ago, | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
or a few weeks ago, we had an average of 6,000-7,000 | :31:45. | :31:51. | |
In the last couple of the weeks, that number has dropped | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
And what sort of condition are people in when they come here, | :31:55. | :32:04. | |
They are frozen like the two of us now. | :32:05. | :32:11. | |
frostbite, and in general, medical conditions that | :32:12. | :32:17. | |
are connected to the very cold weather. | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
The last few days, the snow came finally, and of course, | :32:23. | :32:24. | |
Even during the day, the temperature is around -10. | :32:25. | :32:32. | |
So it's not very nice being outside or travelling in these conditions. | :32:33. | :32:39. | |
And something that has really struck me is the number of children. | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
We can see just here, three very small children, | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
there are a couple there waving at us, hello. | :32:45. | :32:50. | |
What impact does it have on the kids especially? | :32:51. | :32:52. | |
Well, I mean, the kids are the most resilient, fortunately. | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
So they kind of manage to cope somehow with the situation. | :32:58. | :33:10. | |
It is worrying, because we are seeing more and more children | :33:11. | :33:30. | |
These people are beginning their journey out of Serbia. | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
It does continue along this freezing track into Croatia. | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
Most of them heading towards Germany and perhaps further | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
But the road ahead is long, cold and very challenging. | :33:43. | :33:54. | |
Armed police are patrolling parts of Manchester after a spate | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
We can speak to Tony Lloyd, the police and crime commission for the | :33:58. | :34:11. | |
Greater Manchester area. What is behind this? These reports of guns | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
being discharged on the streets of Manchester is outrageous. Not simply | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
for those involved, but the potential for damage to innocent | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
bystanders. What seems to be behind it is quite low-level insults etc. | :34:29. | :34:37. | |
We know that in some contexts there are rival criminal gangs involved. | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
None of this justifies the use of guns. That is why we have a very | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
serious response from Greater Manchester Police to bring this | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
under proper control. Manchester Police to bring this | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
get a grip on this when, since the 22nd of December, there have been | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
eight incidents involving guns across the city and it seems, as you | :35:01. | :35:06. | |
say, most of those have been caused by gang related incidents? Every one | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
of those is a serious incident, that is why police have taken the step of | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
making sure that the public have reassurance, there are armed police | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
on the streets. But the really important thing is getting things | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
under control, working with the community. In Greater Manchester | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
there has been a transformation over the last decade and relations | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
between the police and the public agencies working together and, of | :35:33. | :35:37. | |
course, people within the local communities. It will be people in | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
the local community who will help the police bring this to an end. But | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
I would make an appeal, through the different community leaders, to the | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
mums, dads, brothers and sisters. If you know people involved in this, it | :35:53. | :35:58. | |
is time to bring this to an end. Preferably by involving the police | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
but most certainly by Binny -- bringing pressure to bear on those | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
involved to put an end to this kind of stupidity. It is criminally | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
dangerous and can potentially have the loss of life. We simply don't | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
want to see that again in the streets of Manchester. Do police | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
have the resources needed to deal with this? We know that cuts in | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
policing have had an impact and it would be foolish to pretend | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
otherwise. We have lost 2000 police officers in Greater Manchester. But | :36:31. | :36:34. | |
we have around 60 dedicated officers working in and around the areas with | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
the shootings. Many, any hundreds of police officers, directly and | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
indirectly, working to help the dedicated officers. On top of that | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
we have the armed response available. In those terms, the | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
police numbers won't be allowed to frustrate... A lack of police | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
numbers will not be allowed to frustrate proper investigation and | :37:01. | :37:03. | |
reassurance for the public, that is what the public of Greater | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
Manchester would expect. This is a pretty, we are talking about the | :37:08. | :37:11. | |
potential for serious harm, it will be a priority for the Chief | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
Constable and, certainly, for me. When you say this is a priority and | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
that cuts have had an impact, does this mean that other areas will | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
suffer because of this? If police are obligated to work on this | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
particular area of activity they are not working on other areas. That is | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
a statement of the obvious. There is not the luxury in Greater Manchester | :37:35. | :37:41. | |
Police of spare resources. We have just had a Budget announcement from | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
the Chancellor each sees cuts in the Greater Manchester Police, which is | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
not what the public want. There is a wake-up call for central government. | :37:51. | :38:00. | |
Actually, policing conurbations like Greater Manchester, not just Greater | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
Manchester, requires adequate policing to make sure we can cover | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
the full range of things that the public would expect. Tony Lloyd, | :38:07. | :38:08. | |
thank you very much. Awards season is underway - | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
and it's the turn of the British Academy to announce | :38:12. | :38:14. | |
the nominations for the BAFTA Film Stephen Fry revealed the contenders | :38:15. | :38:16. | |
- Dame Maggie Smith, Cate Blanchett and Alicia Vikander | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
are on the best actress list. Eddie Redmayne is in the running | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
for his second BAFTA as best actor up against Bryan Cranston | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
and Matt Damon. Lizo Mzumba was at BAFTA | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
HQ in central London The BAFTA nominations, | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
yes, were announced here Joining me now to discuss them | :38:32. | :38:33. | |
is the film critic James King. First of all, James, | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
BAFTA seem to have embraced two very With nine nominations, | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
Bridge of Spies, the Cold War Yeah, they do seem different | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
on the face of it, but I also think that both have a very | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
traditional epic gloss Beautifully told stories by | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
Todd Haynes and Stephen Spielberg, the directors, so, yes, | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
very different themes, perhaps but, ultimately, | :38:59. | :39:00. | |
I think they are both quite nostalgic and romantic | :39:01. | :39:02. | |
in the way that they are made. In the top five films | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
for best film overall, BAFTA doesn't really seem to have | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
embraced British film I mean, the British film category | :39:10. | :39:11. | |
itself is very strong. You see Brooklyn in there and Amy | :39:12. | :39:22. | |
in there amongst other things. But I was a little bit surprised | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
that they didn't break On the plus side that is properly | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
just because it's been a good year. The Revenant is just behind the top | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
two with eight nominations, a very visceral, intense performance | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
from Leonardo DiCaprio. He seems to be the runaway | :39:40. | :39:41. | |
favourite for the BAFTA I think voters like it | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
when an actor suffers, And, boy, did Leonardo | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
suffer for that role. In fact, I think a lot of people | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
suffered making that movie, It's set in Montana, | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
South Dakota, about a guy Lost, left for dead | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
out in the wilderness. So it was tough to make | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
for everyone involved. But voters like to see that actors | :40:05. | :40:06. | |
have really gone through the mill. Do I think it's the best | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
Leo performance ever? I think he's done roles that | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
are perhaps more interesting with more range but, | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
let's be honest, it feels like his time, doesn't it, | :40:16. | :40:17. | |
to win something. And Alicia Vikander nominated | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
for best actress for The Danish Girl and best supporting | :40:20. | :40:21. | |
actress for Ex Machina. The last 12 months have been | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
particularly good for her. The Man From U.N.C.L.E, | :40:25. | :40:37. | |
Testament Of Youth, as well as Ex Machina and The Danish | :40:38. | :40:39. | |
Girl. She is the actress everyone | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
is going to at the moment, and I can understand why, | :40:44. | :40:45. | |
because she seems to bring a real class and intelligence | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
to all of her performances. There's no such thing | :40:50. | :40:55. | |
as a safe level of drinking - the first major review for 20 years | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
warns even a small amount can Earlier I spoke to a group that | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
have a mixture of drinking habits There are so many guidelines that | :41:02. | :41:18. | |
come out and so many scientific papers, one can almost look for the | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
answer one wants and then find it. You found a paper that said about 63 | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
units. In fairness to the Chief Medical Officer, this is not just | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
one study, it is a collation of all of our scientific knowledge, and I | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
do genuinely believe that these guidelines are probably correct, but | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
it gets diverted by all of the health message is that we are | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
bombarded white -- bombarded by. I am not surprised as the late public | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
that you guys are confused and sceptical. What the Chief Medical | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
Officer is saying is that it is about what people regard as an | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
acceptable level of risk. Winding down your level of alcohol | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
consumption on a risk analysis, you have a one in ten chance, at least, | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
of dying of something that is a direct result of alcohol | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
consumption. And a nine in ten chance of dying of something not | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
related to alcohol. People talk about the nanny state, I am | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
concerned about the sheer volume... Sorry, just on the point about Ritz, | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
you say nine in ten chance of not, one in ten is a risk you are happy | :42:23. | :42:27. | |
to take? I am going to die of something. And the trouble with | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
risk, and I have this conversation a lot in GP surgeries, you should not | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
be smoking or doing this or doing that, Roddy's risk of dying from an | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
alcohol-related diseases combined with the risks of the rest of his | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
life behaviour. Perhaps he is a marathon runner, and that reduces | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
his risk. Perhaps eaters other positive things within his diet that | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
reduce the risk. -- perhaps he does other positive things. Talking about | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
the risk simply from alcohol is a natural, nobody lives like that. We | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
are hearing that every sip of alcohol increases your risk of | :43:04. | :43:06. | |
cancer. Do something as stark as that make you think again about | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
drinking? I guess it certainly makes you think harder, but I think the | :43:13. | :43:15. | |
message has been deleted by the fact they are not saying don't drink at | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
all, they are saying drink up to 14 units. It is part of the wider | :43:19. | :43:25. | |
lifestyle discussion. For me as a student, there are loads of student | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
nights, really cheap alcohol, people feeling that the only way to have a | :43:31. | :43:36. | |
good time is to have a drink. Maybe universities and society in general | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
should promote events where you do not necessarily have to get drunk to | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
have a good time. As a student, going to university and meeting new | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
people, that is relevant to me. Thank you for your company today, | :43:46. | :43:46. | |
and for all your messages, which really do help to | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
inform our conversations. | :43:50. | :43:53. |