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The question at the heart of it is whether government policy has been | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
shaped by a six story involving a Cabinet minister. | :03:31. | :03:44. | |
Let me just unpack it for you a bit. First off, he has admitted that he | :03:45. | :03:58. | |
had a relationship with a six worker before he became Culture Secretary | :03:59. | :03:59. | |
for about six months. The second part of the story | :04:00. | :04:28. | |
involves the press. Four newspapers from big newspaper groups, the mail | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
group, News International, the Mirror group and the independent | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
were all investigating the story and seemed to be aware of it but none | :04:36. | :04:43. | |
published it. Campaign groups like Hacked Off are saying this is | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
extraordinary, this is the sort of story they published an if you look | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
at the stories around Max Mosley or David Mellor... There are suspicions | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
as to why the press did not publish. Which takes us to the third element | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
of the story, the politics. The charge from Labour is that the | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
reason the newspapers did not publish is because they wanted to | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
keep the story in their back pocket, as a sort of sort of Damocles which | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
they could hold over John Whittingdale to make sure he did not | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
press ahead with further press regulation or the next stage of the | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
Leveson Inquiry. newspapers had been contacted about | :05:23. | :06:26. | |
it? The answer to that would seem to be no and there are some questioning | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
as to whether he should have told the Prime Minister and told the | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
Cabinet Secretary bass of the potential for blackmail or for | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
pressure to be applied to him. Number Ten's view is that Mr | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
Whittingdale is a single man. He is entitled to a private life and that | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
the Prime Minister retains full confidence in him. Hacked Off say | :06:48. | :06:56. | |
that Mr Whittingdale has changed his mind on Leveson, previously he was | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
in favour of the second stage of the Leveson Inquiry which all the | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
inications are may well not go ahead and their suggestion is that the | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
reason Mr Whittingdale changed his mind is because in the back of his | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
mind there is the fear or there was the fear of this story going public. | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
I have to say from my knowledge of Mr Whittingdale, he has been a | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
sceptic about further press regulation. He has always been in | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
favour of a much more light handed and light touch approach to press | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
regulation. So it could always have been the case that Mr Whittingdale | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
was never going to be inclined to press ahead with further press | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
regulation. Thank you, Norman. We will talk to Labour's culture | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
spokeswoman after 10am. How do you view this story? Do you have | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
confidence in the Culture Secretary and his role as being in charge of | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
newspapers in this country? Particularly knowing the fact that | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
four newspapers didn't publish this story about him, but as Norman said, | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
Downing Street saying hey, he was a single man. Where is the story. Send | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
us your view. With the rest of the news here is | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
Joanna. More than 2,000 pupils in Edinburgh | :08:14. | :08:15. | |
- whose schools had been closed because of concerns | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
about their structural safety - 17 sites were shut last Friday | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
amid fears over the standard A further 5,000 younger | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
pupils will be spending a third day at home, | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
and may not resume their studies Students preparing for | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
Scottish Highers and other exams They are either returning | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
to their own school or have been Students didn't return to school | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
following the Easter holidays after Edinburgh Council closed | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
a total of 17 schools The problems were first uncovered | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
in January when part of a wall at one school | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
collapsed during high winds. Other schools were closed | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
after inspections revealed problems with the way walls and roofs | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
had been built. Today, three schools, Drummond, | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
Firrhill and Royal High are partially reopening | :09:03. | :09:04. | |
because the areas causing structural Two at Gracemount and Craigmount | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
are sending their pupils elsewhere, but their teachers will go with them | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
to ensure some level But that still leaves almost 5,000 | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
pupils off school for a third day The remaining affected secondary, | :09:15. | :09:21. | |
primary and special needs pupils are likely to be given | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
somewhere to resume lessons There is still uncertainty | :09:26. | :09:27. | |
about where that will be. So they will be in a different | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
building, but they will be taught by their usual teachers | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
in their usual class. So there should be very little | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
difference to their study except It's a very logistical exercise, | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
but I'm pleased to say my team have done a fantastic job at getting | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
those logistics together. All 17 schools were built as part | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
of the city's public-private finance The scale of repairs are as yet | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
unknown and the disruption Prosecutors in Panama City have | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
raided the offices of the law Millions of confidential documents | :10:02. | :10:11. | |
were leaked from the firm, revealing how some wealthy | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
individuals used offshore A company called Blairmore Holdings, | :10:19. | :10:20. | |
set up by David Cameron's late Britain's biggest supermarket, | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
Tesco, is back in profit. The company has reported its first | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
sales growth in three years, reporting a pre-tax profit | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
of ?162 million for last year. That compares to a loss of more | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
than ?6 billion for the year before. A drive towards lower | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
prices and fewer products The company has also closed 60 | :10:40. | :10:41. | |
unprofitable stores and sold off High rates of unemployment | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
in southern and eastern Europe have been named as among the key factors | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
driving an increase in the number Over the last five years the number | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
of EU nationals living in the UK has gone up by almost | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
700,000 to 3.3 million. Oxford University's Migration | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
Observatory says six countries account for 80 per cent of that | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
increase - Spain, Italy, Portugal, A leading cancer charity is warning | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
that obesity may be fuelling a significant rise in the number | :11:18. | :11:26. | |
of women being diagnosed Cancer Research UK says the number | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
of cases has almost doubled Around 9,000 women are found | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
to have the disease every year in the UK, with around | :11:33. | :11:45. | |
2,000 deaths as a result. A BBC investigation has found that | :11:46. | :11:47. | |
police in England and Wales have seized almost 5,000 dogs | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
in the last three years - on suspicion that they | :11:53. | :11:54. | |
are banned breeds. The RSPCA says there's no proper | :11:55. | :11:56. | |
evidence that some types of dog are more violent than others, | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
but the Government says a ban It will never be | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
the same again, ever. It will never look like | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
a normal leg again. This is how Kerry Stevens' leg looks | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
today after she was attacked by a dog while delivering | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
a package in Eastbourne. It was snapping at my legs and then | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
it got me basically on the leg, pushed me to to the floor and lock | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
jawed on and basically, I was screaming, "Get it off me. | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
Get it off me." The Dangerous Dog Act | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
came into force in 1991, after six-year-old | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
Rukhsana Khan from Bradford The Act prevented people | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
from owning these four breeds. The RSPCA says banning specific | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
types of dog hasn't stopped people from breeding or selling them, | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
but punishes some unaggressive dogs If there is a suspicion that that | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
dog is a banned type it will be taken from the owner's home | :12:51. | :12:57. | |
and taken into undisclosed police kennels and it will then wait | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
there for a period of time until an expert comes | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
in to determine whether or not a dog Since 1997 some dogs can be exempt | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
from the ban as long as the animals are kept by a responsible owner | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
and don't pose a risk to the public. Last year this dog, Budd, | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
was identified as a pit bull The Government says the been | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
on certain types of dogs is crucial to help deal with the heightened | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
risk those animals pose. A small Islamic sect that faces | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
disapproval and hostility from some other Muslims says | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
it is increasingly worried that its members | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
may be attacked. The Ahmadis believe that there | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
was a prophet after Muhammad which has led many mainstream Muslim | :13:47. | :13:48. | |
organisations to declare them not Leaflets calling for the killing | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
of Ahmadis have recently been found A mosque trustee suggested | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
they were fakes or were Minority communities | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
in Pakistan have become targets of sectarian violence | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
and some fear that We'll be examining this issue | :14:05. | :14:05. | |
in much greater detail on the programme in the next few | :14:06. | :14:13. | |
minutes, and discussing it with Ahmadi Muslims | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
and an Islamic scholar after 10am. A British playwright has died. The | :14:16. | :14:30. | |
writer first came to prominence in the 1950s for his gritty, working | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
class dramas about every day life. His wife said he died yesterday | :14:36. | :14:36. | |
after a long illness. Later we will be talking to the | :14:37. | :14:49. | |
Labour MP who thinks the Culture Secretary shouldn't be involved in | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
any decisions on regulation of the press after he confirmed he had a | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
relationship with a sex worker. Has Labour got a point? Tell us what | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
you think. Should a Government minister's private life, could it | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
affect their decisions at work? John says not. Tell us what you think and | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
what you think of the story generally. Get in touch in the usual | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
ways. Reading a couple of your comments | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
which are in already. This e-mail from Andrew, "I don't know what the | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
fuss is about. How many politicians have done the same? If you are in | :15:25. | :15:32. | |
Government, then you should be squeaky clean or leave." Lee, "I | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
don't think it is relevant. The fuss around the woman being a sex worker | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
speaks volumes about our attitude towards sex work: " Ian, "Hacked | :15:41. | :15:48. | |
Off, the campaign group says that campaigns for a free and accountable | :15:49. | :15:55. | |
press, Hacked Off can hardly complain that John Whittingdale had | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
his privacy respected when they campaign from it." Des says, "What | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
business is of anybody he is what the Culture Secretary has done or | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
does in his private life. He acknowledged happened and leave him | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
alone and stop treating him as a criminal." | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
They've reached the semi-finals of the Champions League | :16:20. | :16:34. | |
for the first time beating Paris St Germain | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
After a 2-2 draw in the first leg in FranceCity had | :16:39. | :16:46. | |
And could have settled nerves a little earlier if Sergio Aguero | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
Joe Hart was called into action on a number of occasions. | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
Including twice from Zlatan Ibrahimovic free kicks. | :17:00. | :17:01. | |
But perhaps fitting that in a contest billed as being | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
between the rich kids of England and France. | :17:09. | :17:10. | |
The most expensive player on the pitch got the winner. | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
Kevin De Bruyne firing in with 15 minutes to go with his 15th | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
The goal also gave manager Manuel Pellegrini his first | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
Champions League semi final in his final year at City. | :17:20. | :17:31. | |
Because we draw in Paris we are going to draw. | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
Could City's next opponents include THIS man... | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
Real Madrid making it for the sixth straight year. British number two | :17:43. | :18:04. | |
takes on Nadal this morning for the Andy Murray is already through. The | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
world number two didn't make it easy for himself, taking the first set | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
6-2 but lost the second 6-4. He rallied in the second, taking its | :18:17. | :18:18. | |
6-3 to progress. winning the 100 metre breast gold at | :18:19. | :18:30. | |
British swimming World Championships in Glasgow. He came home in under 58 | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
seconds to qualify for the Games. Finally, a maximum 147 break in | :18:35. | :18:46. | |
snooker is a rare thing, so as you can imagine, missing the final black | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
is pretty agonising. But doing it twice, spare a thought for satire | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
and no. He has only gone and done it again. This time it came in World | :19:00. | :19:06. | |
Championship qualifying. The latest miss for him cost him nearly | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
?10,000. His feelings after missing this pot. Yeah, fairly clear... | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
Thank you very much, more later. As the killing of pay Muslim shopkeeper | :19:19. | :19:37. | |
in Glasgow exposed religious prejudice in this country? | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
This programme has been told by one Muslim group that they are | :19:44. | :19:52. | |
increasingly worried that this group may be attacked by other, more | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
extreme Muslims. We have been to the UK's biggest Ahmadi mosque. | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
They said, "We will cut you into pieces. | :20:05. | :20:06. | |
"We will break your legs and we will even cut your neck, | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
What we are seeing is targeted abuse, saying Ahmadis are less | :20:10. | :20:21. | |
than animals and they should have no human rights. | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
This is unacceptable, this is completely unacceptable. | :20:25. | :20:26. | |
Every sect believes they are the right sect | :20:27. | :20:28. | |
and what the other sect practices is incorrect. | :20:29. | :20:37. | |
They don't like us because of what we believe. | :20:38. | :20:39. | |
Friday prayers at the Baitul Futuh mosque in south London. | :20:40. | :20:58. | |
It is the largest in the UK and thousands of worshippers | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
have come together to hear the weekly sermon. | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
It could be a while before they are able to get | :21:07. | :21:13. | |
It is not usual to see such a high amount of security like this | :21:14. | :21:29. | |
at mosques in the UK but the worshippers | :21:30. | :21:31. | |
That is because there is a real feeling they may be at risk | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
It is airport style security and we are vigilant and we look | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
We are not a professional outfit like the police but we do | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
Do you think the level of security here is excessive? | :21:46. | :21:55. | |
It is proportionate in accordance with the risk so we need to take | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
When people understand the reasons it is a lot easier and they know | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
37-year-old Farouq is an Ahmadi Muslim. | :22:05. | :22:06. | |
There are about 30,000 others like him in the UK. | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
But some Muslims do not recognise Ahmadis as being part | :22:10. | :22:11. | |
It is down to Ahmadis believing in a follower prophet after Muhammad | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
It is a contentious issue amongst some Muslims who believe Muhammad | :22:16. | :22:23. | |
It is this belief which has Ahmadis labelled as apostates, | :22:24. | :22:26. | |
disbelievers and in extreme cases worthy of being killed. | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
We have the threats we saw in Pakistan in 2010, | :22:30. | :22:31. | |
the two Lahore attacks where, at a mosque, suicide | :22:32. | :22:33. | |
We have seen recently an increase in sectarian violence, | :22:34. | :22:42. | |
the question of ideology and hate, and we have seen what was going | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
In Pakistan Ahmadis are not allowed to hold Friday prayers, | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
openly preach or even call themselves Muslims. | :22:50. | :22:51. | |
If they do they could face up to three years in prison | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
under the country's infamous blasphemy laws. | :22:55. | :22:55. | |
Why do you think there are some groups out there who do not | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
We are Muslims, we follow Islam, nothing else. | :23:00. | :23:27. | |
Aneesa came to the UK in 2012 with her 15-year-old son Bilal. | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
She had been receiving death threats from her neighbours in Pakistan | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
She does not want us to show her face or Bilal's | :23:36. | :23:42. | |
because she's worried about being targeted. | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
When you received these threats from extremist Muslims, | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
They said, "We will cut you into pieces, break your legs | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
and even cut your neck, and then we will become satisfied". | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
Aneesa hired a solicitor to take on her asylum case | :24:00. | :24:08. | |
He happened to be Muslim and she began to face problems. | :24:09. | :24:18. | |
When I hired a solicitor, rather than solicitor, | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
He preached me, "Why are you living in fool's paradise?" | :24:22. | :24:31. | |
"Leave this religion and come to the actual faith | :24:32. | :24:33. | |
It was not his duty to preach me at that moment. | :24:34. | :24:41. | |
His duty was only to represent me, nothing else. | :24:42. | :24:55. | |
You paid a solicitor to represent you but instead | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
he is preaching to you, telling you that | :24:59. | :25:00. | |
At the time I felt I was not in the UK. | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
Aneesa and her son's asylum cases are still ongoing. | :25:05. | :25:13. | |
Bilal has adapted well to life in the UK, though he can't fully | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
What impact has it had on you, growing up as an Ahmadi | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
They have taken away their childhood from me. | :25:21. | :25:29. | |
Making new friends, I could not do that. | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
I always had to stay at home, because I'm an Ahmadi Muslim | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
and my mum was scared to let me go out. | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
I was even feeling scared in my own home because I knew | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
What is life like for you in the UK now? | :25:44. | :25:50. | |
You can fit in with the society, no matter what race you are. | :25:51. | :25:59. | |
No matter what skin colour or religion, it doesn't | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
What if your case is rejected and you have to go back to Pakistan? | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
I would not even know who I am, because if I go back | :26:10. | :26:16. | |
to Pakistan I don't know what they would do to me. | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
Ahmadi shopkeeper Asah Shah at his store in Glasgow. | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
A killing which police believe was religiously prejudiced. | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
Some fear the religious intolerance to Ahmadis seen in countries | :26:33. | :26:34. | |
like Pakistan is now beginning to take root here. | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
From the beginning of April,, police forces in England and Wales | :26:42. | :26:44. | |
have been required to record anti-Muslim hate crimes | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
as a separate category to try and get a better idea | :26:47. | :26:48. | |
Fiyaz Mughal is from Tell Mama, a group which monitors | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
The group claim they are seeing more sectarian incidents | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
being reported to them, both on and off-line, | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
with a particular increase in anti-Ahmadi abuse | :27:04. | :27:05. | |
We've had material where they are regarded as individuals | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
who should be exterminated, calling Ahmadis cockroaches, | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
and monkeys, calling Ahmadis individuals who should not have any | :27:14. | :27:15. | |
Do you think things will get better or do you expect the number | :27:16. | :27:26. | |
of incidents which come your way to stay the same? | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
We will sadly continue to see a rise, the issue of Ahmadis | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
being seen as non-Muslims is quite significant | :27:35. | :27:36. | |
in Muslim communities, in mainstream thought. | :27:37. | :27:38. | |
We don't have a problem with theological difference | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
and debate, people can disagree, but what some of these disagreements | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
lead to is the hate and vilification of the Ahmadi community | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
Despite what groups like Tell Mama claim are increasing levels | :27:48. | :27:56. | |
of anti-Ahmadi abuse, some are trying to help bring | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
26 year old Abdul Quddus is a young British Ahmadi Imam and he makes | :28:00. | :28:11. | |
a point to actively engage with people from other religions, | :28:12. | :28:13. | |
those of no faith and Muslims from different sects. | :28:14. | :28:15. | |
Now we find in the UK there is more voiced opinion | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
People are calling those from other sects as disbelievers, non-Muslims. | :28:19. | :28:34. | |
Rather than looking at the commonalities | :28:35. | :28:36. | |
and community, they want to see the differences. | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
And they hold those differences against each group. | :28:40. | :28:41. | |
Do you think there needs to be more dialogue between | :28:42. | :28:43. | |
Just by making more practical steps, dialogue, inviting each other | :28:44. | :28:49. | |
to mosques, community places, and sharing a meal together | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
These things will break the tension and cause a reason | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
At this very moment Islam is being attacked and defamed. | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
It is even more vital for people to come together to unite. | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
You are a qualified Imam and have studied the subject for seven years. | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
How does it feel when someone says to you, "You don't know | :29:08. | :29:09. | |
They have been taught this from day one. | :29:10. | :29:30. | |
You can't blame someone who has actually had that | :29:31. | :29:32. | |
Hopefully, I always say, if you get to know me, | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
then you realise if I'm a Muslim or not by my practices. | :29:37. | :29:39. | |
Some groups are openly against Ahmadi Muslims | :29:40. | :29:41. | |
because of their beliefs, but say it is not about promoting | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
violence, spreading hate or doing anything illegal. | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
The Finality of the Prophets is one of them, the group share a name | :29:48. | :29:54. | |
linked to a mosque in Stockwell, where leaflets called calling | :29:55. | :29:56. | |
But the Academy claims it has nothing to do with them. | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
Anyone who says that should be punished according to the law. | :30:03. | :30:04. | |
I don't want to be associated with anyone who advocates any kind | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
But you don't think Ahmadis are Muslim, do you? | :30:11. | :30:19. | |
According to us, according to the word of consensus, | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
Some Ahmadis are worried the problems in Pakistani are now | :30:22. | :30:30. | |
This is blowing it out of proportion. | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
And taking the problems of one country and making them into | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
The government plans to try and tackle sectarian | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
hatred under its counter extremism strategy. | :30:45. | :30:52. | |
In a statement, the Home Office told us: Heavy security will continue | :30:53. | :31:04. | |
to be a feature of some Ahmadi mosques in the near future. | :31:05. | :31:10. | |
Though many are praying a time will come when it is no longer needed. | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
It is not fair for us, it is totally unfair. | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
It is too much for us and we feel helpless. | :31:17. | :31:34. | |
We will talk more about the issue after 10am. | :31:35. | :31:41. | |
Do you have confidence in the Culture Secretary | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
who's in charge of newspapers in this country, to do his job | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
properly, after he confirmed he had a relationship with a sex worker, | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
a story which four newspapers chose not to publish. | :31:54. | :31:55. | |
Many comments. Neil tweeted, "Not bothered by this and other stories | :31:56. | :32:06. | |
doing the rounds." Ronald tweets, "MPs sleeping with prostitutes is | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
nothing new and affects him doing his job as much as if he wore green | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
or saw a rainbow once." Another viewer says, "John Whittingdale's | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
imparality could have been compromised and we have to take a | :32:20. | :32:24. | |
politician's word that it wasn't." Tom Tom tweets this, "It is not | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
about prostitutes, it is about media silence on a story they would | :32:30. | :32:35. | |
normally print." We will talk to Labour's culture spokeswoman after | :32:36. | :32:37. | |
10am. Keep your views coming in. | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
And it is the first of our weekly series looking at some | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
of the big themes that could influence your decision | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
on whether to vote stay in or leave the European Union. | :32:47. | :32:48. | |
We'll talk two women who run their own businesses | :32:49. | :32:50. | |
and we promise we'll speak only in plain English because some | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
of the language around the debate is so unclear on occasion. | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :33:01. | :33:07. | |
Labour has called for the Culture Secretary John Whittingdale | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
to withdraw from being involved in any decisions on press regulation | :33:11. | :33:12. | |
after he confirmed that he'd been in a relationship with a woman | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
Mr Whittingdale was single when he met the woman on the dating | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
site match.com in August 2013, before he was in his current post. | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
Downing Street said he was a "single man and entitled to a private life" | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
and he had the full confidence of the Prime Minister. | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
Four newspapers knew about the story but decided not to publish it saying | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
He spoke to the media this morning. REPORTER: Can you really properly | :33:37. | :33:48. | |
regulate the press after the revelations? I have made a | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
statement. What about what Labour are saying? Nothing further. | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
More than 2,000 pupils in Edinburgh, whose schools had been | :33:55. | :33:56. | |
closed because of concerns about their structural safety, | :33:57. | :33:58. | |
17 sites were shut last Friday amid fears over the standard | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
A further 5,000 younger pupils will be spending | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
a third day at home, and may not resume their studies | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
Prosecutors in Panama City have raided the offices of the law | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
Millions of confidential documents were leaked from the firm, | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
revealing how some wealthy individuals used offshore companies. | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
A company called Blairmore Holdings, set up by David Cameron's late | :34:24. | :34:26. | |
Britain's biggest supermarket, Tesco, is back in profit. | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
The company has reported its first sales growth in three years - | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
reporting a pre-tax profit of ?162 million for last year. | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
That compares to a loss of more than ?6 billion for the year before. | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
A drive towards lower prices and fewer products is | :34:43. | :34:44. | |
The company has also closed 60 unprofitable stores and sold off | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
BT is to recruit people to work in its security business. The company | :34:49. | :35:08. | |
said a number of high-profile security and data breaches that have | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
dominated the headlines in recent months led to more consumers wanting | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
to know how best they can protect themselves. | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
A leading cancer charity is warning that obesity may be fuelling | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
a significant rise in the number of women being diagnosed | :35:24. | :35:25. | |
Cancer Research UK says the number of cases has almost doubled | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
Around 9,000 women are found to have the disease every year | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
in the UK, with around 2,00 deaths as a result. | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
The British playwright Sir Arnold Wesker has died, aged 83, | :35:41. | :35:42. | |
his wife Lady Wesker has confirmed to the BBC. | :35:43. | :35:44. | |
The writer first came to prominence in the late 1950s for his gritty, | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
working class dramas about everyday life. | :35:49. | :35:49. | |
His wife said he died yesterday evening after a long illness. | :35:50. | :35:59. | |
Hugh's back now with the sport headlines. | :36:00. | :36:09. | |
Manchester City are through to the semi finals | :36:10. | :36:11. | |
of the Champions League for the first time in their history. | :36:12. | :36:14. | |
Kevin De Bruyne's goal was enough for a 1-0 second leg win | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
at the Etihad over Paris St Germain sealing a 3-2 aggregate victory | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
They're joined by Real Madrid. They had a 2-0 deficit to overcome | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
against Wolfsburg and Cristiano Ronaldo did it all. | :36:26. | :36:27. | |
His hattrick at the Bernabeu also giving Real a 3-2 overall win. | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
Andy Murray's one out of one on clay this season. | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
He won his first match of the year on the surface beating | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
Frenchman Herbert in the second round of the Monte Carlo Masters. | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
World Champion Adam Peaty is on his way to the Rio Olympics | :36:44. | :36:45. | |
after winning 100 metre breaststroke gold at the British Swimming | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
The 21-year-old qualifies for the Games hoping | :36:49. | :36:50. | |
to add to the three world titles he won last year. | :36:51. | :36:58. | |
That's all the sports headlines for you for now. Ilk back in a few | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
minutes. -- I will be back. | :37:07. | :37:08. | |
Made up your mind yet about whether you want this | :37:09. | :37:10. | |
country to leave or remain in the European Union? | :37:11. | :37:13. | |
You'll get the chance to vote on 23rd June, | :37:14. | :37:15. | |
so still plenty of time - and it's totally your decision. | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
Both sides are arguing it out arguing over things | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
like immigration, security and the jobs, wages and the economy. | :37:25. | :37:26. | |
Each week - between now and the day you vote - | :37:27. | :37:29. | |
we're going to ask our political guru Norman Smith to take a look | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
at one of these big themes - this week it's the economy - | :37:33. | :37:35. | |
and explain it in clear, simple, plain English - | :37:36. | :37:37. | |
before hearing from both sides on the issue. | :37:38. | :37:39. | |
Thank you very much, Vic. Well, it is the biggy, the economy. It is the | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
issue which Mr Cameron hopes will win him this referendum by a warning | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
of the dangers of our economy if we pull out. Brexit campaigners say he | :37:50. | :37:55. | |
is just trying to scare the pants off us. So what is the ghostly | :37:56. | :38:03. | |
vision that Mr Cameron is trying to conjure up? First off, jobs. He says | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
three million jobs are tied up with Europe. If we leave, they could be | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
at risk. Second business, many businesses come to Britain because | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
we're in the EU, companies like Nissan and BMW, would they still | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
come here if we left? Prices, the cost of everything, he says, will go | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
up. Things like air fares, cheap flights to the rest of Europe will | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
cost more, he says, similarly the mobile phone bills will also go up. | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
Listen to Mr Cameron warning about the dangers to our economy if we | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
leave when he was speaking to students last week. | :38:41. | :38:46. | |
We think it would be a bad decision to leave. | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
It would be bad for our economy, bad for jobs, bad for investment, | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
We think it would be bad for universities. | :38:54. | :38:56. | |
So we have made a clear stance in this leaflet which I hope | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
everyone will get a copy of in their home. | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
You may think this sounds familiar. Well, it is. He remember we had that | :39:05. | :39:12. | |
Scottish referendum and yes, the Government again, tried to warn | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
about the dangers to the economy and were accused of running Project Fear | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
in the Scottish referendum and at the heart of that was claims about | :39:22. | :39:27. | |
the pound. Fears that if Scots voted for independence, they wouldn't be | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
able to keep the pound. So what would happen to the Scottish | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
currency? There were question marks about whether Scots could rely on | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
oil prices which we know have subsequently plummeted. And the man | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
who issued many of those warnings, the governor of the Bank of England, | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
last month, he conjured up his own scary vision about what would happen | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
to the economy in the UK if we left the EU saying there would be massive | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
disruption, trade would suffer. We would be a less dynamic economy and | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
he warned it could take months, years, of uncertainty which would | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
hurt business in Britain. Now, what do those who want to leave do to | :40:12. | :40:18. | |
bust those sort of ghostly visions? Well, here is Boris Johnson and | :40:19. | :40:25. | |
Michael gO the Ghost Busters of the Brexit campaign. They say first off, | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
red tape. British business would be freed of a whole load of cumbersome | :40:31. | :40:37. | |
rules and regulations, we would become more dynamic if we left the | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
European Union. Trade, we would be able to negotiate our own deals with | :40:42. | :40:47. | |
other emerging countries. We want have to wait for the old lumbering | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
EU to get its act togetherment we would get our international mojo | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
back, we would feel liberated and become more entrepreneurial and | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
Buccaneering and that was Boris Johnson's message a short time ago. | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
Have a listen. It is precisely because we stayed out of the euro | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
that we are now one of the most successful economies of Europe. And | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
if we burst out of the shackles of Brussels, we would be able to begin | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
immediately with those long neglected free trade opportunities | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
which we can't do at the moment. We could strike free trade deals with | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
America, with China, with the growth economies around the world with our | :41:29. | :41:35. | |
officials, with UK officials. So, both sides may differ bitterly | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
over what sort of impact it would have if we left the EU, but on one | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
thing they do agree - the economy is absolutely central to this | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
referendum campaign. STUDIO: Thank you, Norman. | :41:49. | :41:55. | |
Let's talk now to two women her run their own businesses. | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
Sarah Bell, the head of Tempus Energy, | :42:01. | :42:02. | |
a company that tries to help its customers | :42:03. | :42:03. | |
cut their energy bills using smart technology. | :42:04. | :42:05. | |
She's signed up to support the Britain Stronger in Europe | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
campaign, so she'll be voting for the UK to remain | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
Farzana Baduel, Founder and Managing Director of Curzon PR. | :42:11. | :42:13. | |
She recently signed an open letter to the Prime Minister calling | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
for Britain to leave the EU, in order she says, to be more | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
independent when it comes to trade and migration. | :42:20. | :42:20. | |
Welcome both of you, thank you very much for coming on the programme. So | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
the list of big global organisations as well as British organisations | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
saying that there will be instability, job losses, years of | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
uncertainty if Britain votes to leave, do you say that won't happen? | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
I think if we remain in Europe there is going to be certainty that we're | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
going to continue with the stifling bureaucracy. And if Britain leaves? | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
Then it will be wonderful because our politicians will be free to make | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
decisions based upon UK economy rather than a collective Europe. So | :42:54. | :42:59. | |
do you dismiss the job losses and the instability? I believe that they | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
will be short-term jitters. Jitters. What does that mean? For people | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
watching does that mean they will lose their job or their boss will | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
get nervous? There is a number of people who are sitting on the fence | :43:13. | :43:15. | |
in terms of investing because they are waiting to see the outcome of | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
the referendum. However in the medium-term to long-term, I believe | :43:19. | :43:21. | |
Britain would be better in terms of its economy outside of Europe for a | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
number of reasons. First of all, trade. Why are we tying ourselves to | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
Europe when it is a stagnant economy. Most of my business comes | :43:30. | :43:32. | |
from emerging markets and I travel around the world and there is this | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
wonderful feeling that the UK is a country that people around the world | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
want to do business with. They want to come and educate their children | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
here. We have the most incredible soft power that a lot of countries | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
in Europe don't possess. What does soft power mean? The UK is perceived | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
as quite sexy around the world. People want to come here and travel | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
and educate the kids here and do business here. They can do that now? | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
They can do that now, but we don't have the power to build by lateral | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
trade relations with a number of countries outside the EU. We have to | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
do it with Europe and Europe is taking time because of the | :44:08. | :44:10. | |
bureaucracy and they don't represent the interests of the UK. They | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
represent the interests of the collective. Well, on that point | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
then, Sarah, being in the European Union means Britain does not have | :44:19. | :44:25. | |
control of its own trade policy. We, you know, EU trade representatives | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
with the competing interests of 28 member countries trying to get deals | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
with India. They have been discussing a free trade deal for | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
nine years, is it? It is embarrassing. No wonder it takes | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
Canada, you know, seven years to get some kind of deal with the EU | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
because there are so many countries with those competing interests, do | :44:44. | :44:46. | |
you not accept Britain could be free to do that in a more efficient, | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
speedy way and that would be dynamic for Britain's economy? I think it is | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
a fallacy to think negotiating trade agreements will be speedy. Those are | :44:57. | :45:00. | |
lengthy and drawn out negotiations. If we exit now, we remove ourselves | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
from an enormous opportunity that has come from unifying European | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
policies, climate change represents the biggest economic development | :45:11. | :45:13. | |
opportunity of our time. Companies like mine that have developed | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
technology to under pin the future energy system. The reason why Europe | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
represents an enormous opportunity is because Europe decided to be a | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
frontrunner in doing renewable policies, in having energy and | :45:27. | :45:30. | |
climate policies that drive that agenda forward to take maximum | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
advantage out of that, we can develop technologies, but business | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
models and services that can be marketed to those economies that are | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
right for them. In the last two weeks, my company has been contacted | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
by companies in three separate European countries that are | :45:49. | :45:51. | |
interested in our technology because they recognise... If Britain was | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
outside the European Union, those three countries would have still got | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
in touch with your companies? The way we do business with them and the | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
opportunity of the reunification of energy policy, we can build a | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
platform that can be servicing all European countries because we | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
understand, you know, a common European energy trading market. Do | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
you accept that? There is uniform standards across these 28 countries | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
which British business can take advantage of? They don't have to | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
make different products for those 28 countries because we've got | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
consistency and that reduces costs. That's a good thing for British | :46:28. | :46:28. | |
business? I think you have to look at the | :46:29. | :46:35. | |
other side. British businesses have high barriers to entry because of | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
the increased regulations coming out of Europe. A lot of the people | :46:40. | :46:42. | |
campaigning for remaining within Europe tend to be big businesses. I | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
run a small business and I don't have these teams of lawyers in house | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
and teams of lobbyists who can go to Brussels on my behalf and influence | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
decisions from there. Are you saying you have barriers now when it comes | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
to doing business with the rest of Europe? I have an office in New | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
York, an office in Dubai but I don't have any offices in Europe. The | :47:08. | :47:10. | |
economic growth I've seen has come from the areas expanding outside | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
Europe. Are their barriers, despite Britain being in the single market, | :47:17. | :47:24. | |
in this big market with 500 million customers, you have barriers, is | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
that what you're saying? Just to clarify. First of all, economic | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
growth. Whether we like it or not, the economic growth is moving | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
eastwards. A lot of my business is coming from India and China. London | :47:36. | :47:39. | |
is a very global city, the wonderful thing about London is that everybody | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
comes over here and the opportunity that I saw were not setting up an | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
office in Europe... Sorry to interrupt, Britain is a member of | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
the European Union, there is no free trade agreement with India. As a PR | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
company based in Britain, selling your services in India, are their | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
taxes that you have to pay? Tariffs that you have to pay? Are there | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
regulatory barriers or not? The wonderful thing about setting up an | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
office in India and emerging markets is that I'm going out there with the | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
brand of Britain. They perceive the UK is a very strong brand and that | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
helps me get business from these emerging markets. There is no | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
financial barriers to you doing trade there? No financial barriers | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
at the moment in terms of me doing trade there but if the UK and India | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
could have its own bilateral trade agreement it would make our business | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
a lot stronger. The Indian Prime Minister and David Cameron have had | :48:39. | :48:41. | |
a lot of meetings where they have discussed collaborating, but we | :48:42. | :48:43. | |
haven't yet had a bilateral agreement with India. Britain would | :48:44. | :48:51. | |
have to start from scratch. The EU has been talking to India for nine | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
years! Britain would have to start from scratch. Not least America, | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
South Korea, Vietnam, all the places the EU already has trade deals with. | :49:03. | :49:08. | |
The UK, it's easy to be nimble and go and open up offices around the | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
world. But you can do that with Britain as a member of the European | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
Union. I've seen the economic opportunities outside Europe, I've | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
not seen them inside Europe. For us to hang the petticoats of Europe | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
because we are too scared to go on our own, I think it is a defeatist | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
mentality. Is it about being scared, Sarah? I don't think so,. There | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
hasn't been enough discussion about what it would cost Britain to | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
negotiate with those countries. By the cost, you mean in terms of, it | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
could take years so there will be instability and it won't be clear | :49:45. | :49:47. | |
what the rules are and that could lead to job losses. Is that what you | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
mean by cost? Also the focus and time, definitely some of that aside, | :49:53. | :49:56. | |
the enormous amounts of legal fees that we will be required to | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
negotiate, the treaties with individual countries, they all add | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
to the prospect but also the focus of government, I would much rather | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
this government were focused on economic development, pushing our | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
innovation businesses into new markets including Europe as well as | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
the rest of the world, instead of spending lots of time trying to | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
renegotiate treaties. If we leave Europe now, we're getting away from | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
markets that we could immediately enter and that is not going to be | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
good for jobs and growth. In the Economist last week they reported | :50:30. | :50:33. | |
that since we have been in Europe, trade with European countries has | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
increased by 55%, that is a very large opportunity for British | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
businesses. Yes but you will know that Britain's trade with Europe is | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
degreasing, it used to be much higher, say in 2006, and actually | :50:49. | :50:52. | |
our trade with the emerging markets we have talked about is on the | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
increase. For some areas. In the area I worked in, because there is | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
cemetery new abode generation in places like Germany, Spain, | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
Portugal, actually the ability to more cost effectively manage their | :51:06. | :51:09. | |
system, that opportunity is actually increasing. I'm focused on the | :51:10. | :51:17. | |
energies sector. Of course, and people will hear what you both say | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
and hopefully absorb some of the information and hopefully make their | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
own minds up. Very briefly. 350 million a week, I read, I was | :51:29. | :51:31. | |
reading an article. That is shocking. That is what Britain pays | :51:32. | :51:38. | |
into the European Union and Britain gets back 190 million a week. What | :51:39. | :51:44. | |
Britain pays net per week is 160 million. Every week we pay 160 | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
million. On top of that we're outsourcing our control over our | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
borders, we're outsourcing control in terms of our economy. I just | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
think it's madness. But that doesn't account for the benefit that is into | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
Britain. We're taking that into account in the rebate. But you're | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
talking about other benefits. Like trade and economic development. | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
Still to come on the programme, we hear from Ramadi Muslims, a minority | :52:12. | :52:18. | |
sect in the UK who fear from their -- fear for their safety after a | :52:19. | :52:22. | |
number of extreme attacks from other Muslims. -- Ahmadi Muslims. | :52:23. | :52:27. | |
Tomorrow it will be two years since 276 schoolgirls were abducted | :52:28. | :52:30. | |
from northeast Nigeria by the militant Islamist | :52:31. | :52:32. | |
Some managed to escape but 219 are still missing. | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
The kidnapping sparked outrage around the globe and the hashtag | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
#bringbackourgirls was used by Michelle Obama, Malala, | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
Julia Roberts and Cara Delevigne, among many others. | :52:47. | :52:48. | |
There is no evidence of where the girls may be held or | :52:49. | :53:03. | |
There will be demonstrations across Nigeria today to call | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
for the safe return of the girls, while remembering all | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
These parents spoke to the BBC back in 2014, after their | :53:11. | :53:13. | |
I can't eat, I can't sleep, I even have an ulcer. | :53:14. | :53:21. | |
Sometimes I feel very faint due to worry. | :53:22. | :53:23. | |
Often they start crying and calling out for their sibling | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
They must be sitting on their backsides, the government, | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
otherwise they would have found and rescued those girls. | :53:33. | :53:34. | |
But to date their efforts have yielded no fruit. | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
When we go to bed we are scared and worried. | :53:40. | :53:44. | |
Sometimes we don't go to bed for fear, we just stay up. | :53:45. | :53:54. | |
TRANSLATION: Honestly, there is a lot of fear. | :53:55. | :53:56. | |
All we can do is put our faith in God and hope that | :53:57. | :54:01. | |
TRANSLATION: The government is doing nothing at all. | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
Honestly, if they were doing anything serious they would have | :54:06. | :54:07. | |
I honestly don't see any effort they are making. | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
Let's talk now to the head of the foundation which is campaigning for | :54:13. | :54:25. | |
the girls to be brought home. She is in the Nigerian capital, Abuja. | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
Thank you for talking to us. Aisha, first of all, what role has your | :54:33. | :54:42. | |
organisation played in trying to get the schoolgirls back? One of the | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
things we've tried to do is help the community built facilities and show | :54:46. | :54:53. | |
them the support of the family members. The challenge we faced... | :54:54. | :55:08. | |
OK, sorry... Do carry on. OK. It was important to realise that these | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
girls are not just a number. We talk about numbers like 219 but at the | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
end of the day we're talking about parents who have lost their | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
children, we're talking about communities that have been | :55:24. | :55:33. | |
devastated. So it was up to us to work with them in terms of | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
comforting them and in terms of how to rebuild their schools and their | :55:38. | :55:46. | |
communities. In the last few months, we have also been able to interview | :55:47. | :55:53. | |
at least 203 parents, out of which the seven were parents of girls that | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
had actually escaped at the beginning of the abduction, and we | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
have been able to photograph them. Because it's also important... | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
The Skype obviously keeps freezing, but we will come back to Aisha, | :56:09. | :56:14. | |
because I have more questions for her. Is the Nigerian government | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
doing enough to try and rescue these girls from the Islamist militants? | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
Essentially, Amnesty International thinks that the Nigerian government | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
isn't doing enough. At the time of the abduction of these girls, two | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
years ago now, the Nigerian authorities were woefully slow and | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
inadequate in trying to actually get around to protecting and rescuing | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
them. Two years, 219 girls are still missing. Aisha is right, they are | :56:43. | :56:45. | |
more than just a number, but unfortunately the number is so great | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
that we have to talk in numbers. That is 219 goals and young women | :56:51. | :56:57. | |
who were abducted two years ago and Boko Haram has actually abducted | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
2000 girls. That is a staggering and horrifying number. And in some cases | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
using them as suicide bombers. Exactly. Many of these women have no | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
choice, they have been brainwashed to become suicide bombers. Sometimes | :57:14. | :57:20. | |
they don't even know they have had explosives strapped to them. | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
Absolutely, it is absolutely devastating. Those who are not used | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
as suicide bombers are taken as wives. More needs to be done to | :57:31. | :57:34. | |
protect them. Aisha, you talked about trying to comfort some of the | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
parents and these are mums and dads who have no idea if their daughters | :57:39. | :57:41. | |
are dead or alive and the last two years must have been the most | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
excruciating and painful situation of limbo for them. Are they hopeful | :57:45. | :57:50. | |
that they will see their daughters again? I think there in motion 's | :57:51. | :58:02. | |
fluctuate. They go from being buried the press to also being optimistic, | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
which is to be expected. -- go from being very depressed to being | :58:09. | :58:12. | |
optimistic. There are reports to them of sightings which are | :58:13. | :58:15. | |
sometimes difficult to verify. If you recall, very recently the young | :58:16. | :58:21. | |
girl who was found in Cameroon with explosives strapped to her had | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
said... It was a particularly ethical time for these parents. They | :58:28. | :58:36. | |
wanted to identify her. -- particularly difficult time. It was | :58:37. | :58:46. | |
confirmed that there was a possibility that some of these girls | :58:47. | :58:49. | |
were being used as suicide bombers. It was found out that she was | :58:50. | :58:56. | |
abducted about a year ago, which is equally tragic. You're saying the | :58:57. | :59:02. | |
Nigerian government has to do more. What does that mean in practical | :59:03. | :59:07. | |
terms? They need to improve security in the north-east and we need to CNN | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
to these kidnappings and these killings of innocent people. In | :59:12. | :59:14. | |
addition, they need to track these girls, they need to be able to | :59:15. | :59:19. | |
rescue them and then once they are back in these communities, to | :59:20. | :59:22. | |
provide the adequate psychosocial care and support that they need. | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
They have been trying to track them. If they could have rescued them, | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
presumably they would have done. That is a question you would like to | :59:31. | :59:35. | |
ask. You don't think they have been trying that much? We're looking at | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
two years on, 24 months, and the message bring back our girls remains | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
as alive as it did two years ago. That shouldn't be the case. There | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
needs to be rescuing of these girls and the 2000 other girls who have | :59:49. | :59:53. | |
been kidnapped and taken into this militant group. Aisha, a rescue | :59:54. | :59:57. | |
operation can sound simple. Presumably it's not, or is it? You | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
tell me. Is that what government forces could have done and still do? | :00:02. | :00:06. | |
Definitely. I think that at the very beginning a lot more could have been | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
done. I know it is quite unfortunate. What about now? I think | :00:10. | :00:16. | |
now we still need to do a lot. In the last two weeks, it has been | :00:17. | :01:15. | |
It is important there a co-ordination between the State | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
authorities and the federal authorities. That's important so the | :01:19. | :01:26. | |
effort will yield better and much quicker results. Thank you both of | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
you. Thank you very much for talking to us this morning. | :01:30. | :01:41. | |
Labour says the Culture Secretary, John Whittingdale, is compromised | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
after the press knew about, but decided not to publish details | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
concerning his relationship with a sex worker. We'll talk to a Labour | :01:52. | :01:58. | |
politician and also a former tabloid journalist after 10am. | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
Now, it is time for the weather. Here is Chris. | :02:02. | :02:09. | |
It is Alex, Victoria. There is a big contrast with the weather over the | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
next few days, we have got low pressure down to the south-west of | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
the UK, but it is to the moving across the UK quickly. It is | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
sluggish. That means for some big contrasts. We have cracking sunshine | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
like we had yesterday. This view taken in the Isle of Wight. You can | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
see mist there and there was thick fog around in a few spots this | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
morning, but that's clearing away to reveal sunshine in places, but other | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
parts of the UK, staying dull and dismal. Tommy's Hill, this picture | :02:35. | :02:43. | |
taken on the Scottish Borders, because the weather patterns aren't | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
shifting, if you have got the rain this morning, it is like to still be | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
raining this afternoon. The thick area of cloud continuing | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
to bring outbreaks of rain. The far north of Scotland should hang on to | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
brightness and although some rain will trickle into parts of | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
Yorkshire, brighter than yesterday. Further south, yes, sunny spells | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
likely, but also showers getting going. Heavy, possibly thundery ones | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
developing. The far north of Scotland dry and bright, but there | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
is a keen breeze blowing here. Even with sunshine, it is not | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
spectacularly warm, but feeling cool under that bank of rain through | :03:20. | :03:21. | |
Northern Ireland, Southern Scotland and the far north of England, just | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
eight or nine Celsius, compare and contrast further south, 16s, 17s, | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
maybe 18 Celsius with sunshine. As well as the sunshine, you will have | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
to dodge the downpours. Not everywhere will catch a downpour, | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
but they could be thundery ones later this afternoon and into this | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
evening. Still some of those heavy showers scattered across the heart | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
of England and Wales. Still some of that persistent rain across | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
north-east England and south-east Scotland overnight. Elsewhere, it | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
does turn drier and it will be milder in the south tonight. Last | :03:51. | :03:52. | |
night we had a touch of frost through Wiltshire and Somerset. | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
Tonight, temperatures holding up above freezing here. In Northern | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
Scotland, maybe a touch of frost through the Scottish glens. Again, | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
Northern Scotland should see bright weather tomorrow and overall a | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
brighter day along with Northern Ireland compared to today. | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
North-east England cheering up too after a damp start. For England and | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
Wales, again, it is dodge the downpours. Some heavy, spring | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
showers developing even a few thunderstorms, but still some warm | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
sunshine. We could see temperatures of 17 Celsius. So we keep the | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
contrasts for the next couple of days. The low pressure system we | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
have been talking about for days just getting closer and closer | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
through Friday and the week and that's going to bring more | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
persistent rain during Friday in particular. It could be a soggy | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
affair. The winds starting to increase. Colder air drifting down | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
from the north as well. It all sets us up for a mixed picture through | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
the weekend, it will be wet and windy for many of us on Saturday. We | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
should something drier by Sunday and certainly across the south, it will | :04:52. | :04:59. | |
be turning colder. Thank you, Alex. I'm sorry for | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
calling you Chris! Labour says the Culture Secretary | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
shouldn't be involved in any further decisions on press regulation | :05:11. | :05:25. | |
after he confirmed a relationship with a sex worker before | :05:26. | :05:27. | |
he was a government minister. Four newspapers knew about the story | :05:28. | :05:29. | |
but decided not to run it. Campaigners against press abuses say | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
he has questions to answer. John Whittingdale needs to be clear | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
if he told the Prime Minister. If he hid it from the Prime Minister then | :05:38. | :05:38. | |
he is in real trouble. Has the killing of a Glasgow | :05:39. | :05:53. | |
shopkeeper exposed hatred and prejudice within | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
the Muslim community? We've been told of fears that one | :05:56. | :05:56. | |
sect could be vulnerable to attacks They said, "We will | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
cut you into pieces. "We will break your legs | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
and we will even cut your neck, More women are being | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
diagnosed with womb cancer Researchers say obesity and a lack | :06:06. | :06:15. | |
of exercise could be to blame? Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom | :06:16. | :06:26. | |
with a summary of today's news. Labour has called for the Culture | :06:27. | :06:37. | |
Secretary John Whittingdale to withdraw from being involved | :06:38. | :06:39. | |
in any decisions on press regulation after he confirmed that he'd been | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
in a relationship with a woman Mr Whittingdale was single | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
when he met the woman on the dating site match.com in August 2013, | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
before he was in his current post. Downing Street said he was a "single | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
man and entitled to a private life" and he had the full confidence | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
of the Prime Minister. Four newspapers knew about the story | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
but decided not to publish it. Journalists asked questions | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
as he left home this morning. REPORTER: Can you regulate the press | :07:01. | :07:17. | |
after last night's revelations? I have made a statement, I have | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
nothing to add. What about what Labour are saying? | :07:21. | :07:31. | |
More than Nothingment 2,000 pupils in Edinburgh, | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
closed because of concerns about their structural safety, | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
17 sites were shut last Friday amid fears over the standard | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
A further 5,000 younger pupils will be spending a third day | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
at home, and may not resume their studies until next | :07:45. | :07:46. | |
Students preparing for Scottish Highers and other exams | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
They are either returning to their own school or have been | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
Students didn't return to school following the Easter holidays | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
after Edinburgh Council closed a total of 17 schools | :07:58. | :07:59. | |
The problems were first uncovered in January when part | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
of a wall at one school collapsed during high winds. | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
Other schools were closed after inspections revealed problems | :08:06. | :08:07. | |
with the way walls and roofs had been built. | :08:08. | :08:09. | |
Today, three schools, Drummond, Firrhill and Royal High | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
are partially reopening because the areas causing structural | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
Two at Gracemount and Craigmount are sending their pupils elsewhere, | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
but their teachers will go with them to ensure some level | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
But that still leaves almost 5,000 pupils off school for a third day | :08:20. | :08:30. | |
The remaining affected secondary, primary and special needs pupils | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
are likely to be given somewhere to resume lessons | :08:34. | :08:35. | |
There is still uncertainty about where that will be. | :08:36. | :08:43. | |
So they will be in a different building, but they will be taught | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
by their usual teachers in their usual class. | :08:47. | :08:48. | |
So there should be very little difference to their study except | :08:49. | :08:50. | |
It's a very logistical exercise, but I'm pleased to say my team have | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
done a fantastic job at getting those logistics together. | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
All 17 schools were built as part of the city's | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
The scale of repairs are as yet unknown and the disruption | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
Prosecutors in Panama City have raided the offices of the law | :09:09. | :09:18. | |
Millions of confidential documents were leaked from the firm, | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
revealing how some wealthy individuals used offshore companies. | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
A company called Blairmore Holdings, set up by David Cameron's late | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
Britain's biggest supermarket, Tesco, is back in profit. | :09:28. | :09:37. | |
The company has reported its first sales growth in three years - | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
reporting a pre-tax profit of ?162 million for last year. | :09:41. | :09:42. | |
That compares to a loss of more than ?6 billion for the year before. | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
A drive towards lower prices and fewer products is | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
The company has also closed 60 unprofitable stores and sold off | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
BT is to recruit 900 people to work in its security business. | :09:52. | :10:01. | |
It's part of a major drive to protect consumers, | :10:02. | :10:03. | |
businesses and governments from the growing | :10:04. | :10:05. | |
The company said a number of high-profile security and data | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
breaches that have dominated the headlines in recent months has | :10:10. | :10:11. | |
led to more consumers wanting to know how best | :10:12. | :10:13. | |
High rates of unemployment in southern and eastern Europe have | :10:14. | :10:24. | |
been named as among the key factors driving an increase in the number | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
Over the last five years the number of EU nationals living in the UK | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
has gone up by almost 700,000 to 3.3 million. | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
account for 80% of that increase - Spain, Italy, Portugal, | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
A leading cancer charity is warning that obesity may be fuelling | :10:38. | :10:52. | |
a significant rise in the number of women being diagnosed | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
Cancer Research UK says the number of cases has almost doubled | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
Around 9,000 women are found to have the disease every year | :10:59. | :11:06. | |
in the UK, with around 2,000 deaths as a result. | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
A BBC investigation has found that police officers in England and Wales | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
have seized almost 5,000 dogs in the last three years - | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
on suspicion that they are banned breeds. | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
The RSPCA is calling for the Dangerous Dogs Act to be updated | :11:25. | :11:26. | |
to ensure dogs are judged on their behaviour alone. | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
But the government says a ban on certain breeds helps manage | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
the heightened risk those animals pose. | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
The British playwright Sir Arnold Wesker has died, aged 83, | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
his wife Lady Wesker has confirmed to the BBC. | :11:44. | :11:45. | |
The writer first came to prominence in the late 1950s for his gritty, | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
working class dramas about everyday life. | :11:50. | :11:50. | |
His wife said he died yesterday evening after a long illness. | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
Over the next hour we'll bring you the latest breaking news | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
and developing stories and any comments. | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
We will speak to Labour's cull tier spokeswoman in a moment. John says, | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
"I don't know why we are talking about this. Surely there are more | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
important issues that affect us. Pathetic." Another viewer says, | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
"People in power need to be whiter than white." Ali tweets, "A single | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
man has a relationship with a single woman, what's the story?" Sam says, | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
"It is not about the woman being a sex worker, it is about the press | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
holding something over him when he is in charge of press regulation." | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
This texter says, "Whittingdale sleaze, slar public servant paid | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
through public purse." Graham texts, "The action of Government ministers | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
should be exemplary. When not, we have good cause to complain. Every | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
day citizens like you and me can dodge our taxes or get mixed up with | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
prostitutes. Members of the Government can't and shouldn't." | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
More in a second. Here is Hugh with the sport. | :13:07. | :13:18. | |
Manchester City are celebrating. It was a 1-0 win over Paris St Germain | :13:19. | :13:29. | |
and a place in the last four for them. They are joined by this man | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
and Real Madrid. Cristiano Ronaldo helped them overcome a 2-0 deficit. | :13:35. | :13:41. | |
He did it all. His hat-trick at was enough to give them a 3-2 overall | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
win. Andy Murray is one out of one on clay. He won his first match of | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
the year on the surface beating Pierre-Hugues Herbert. And Adam Pety | :13:54. | :14:04. | |
is on his way to the Rio Olympics. Just 21, but he qualifies for the | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
Games and hoping to add to the three world titles he won last year. I | :14:09. | :14:09. | |
will have more later on for you. Labour have called for | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
the Culture Secretary to withdraw from being involved in any decisions | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
on press regulation after John Whittingdale confirmed | :14:16. | :14:17. | |
that he had been in a relationship Mr Whittingdale was single | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
when he met her on the dating site match.com in August 2013, | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
before he was in his current post. Downing Street says he was a single | :14:29. | :14:42. | |
man and had the right to a private life. | :14:43. | :14:49. | |
Four newspapers knew about the story, but decided not to publish | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
it. The Sun said they were not making any comment. The Independent | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
did not return our calls. The editor of the Mail on Sunday was | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
unavailable to speak to us and no comment was made. And a spokesman | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
for the Trinity Mirror Group, they own the Sunday People was looking | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
into providing a statement, but nothing has cold through from them | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
yet. Mr John Whittingdale left his home | :15:13. | :15:15. | |
on the way to work and was greeted by reporters. | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
I have made a statement. I have nothing further to add. Shouldn't be | :15:21. | :15:30. | |
taking decisions about... Nothing further to add. Maria Eagle, good | :15:31. | :15:40. | |
morning. What is the problem here? The problem is not about whatever he | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
gets up to in his private life, he is entitled to whatever he gets up | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
to in his private life. The issue here is that he regulates and is | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
responsible for press regulation and it's about perceptions. Before the | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
election there was cross-party agreement that the Leveson Inquiry's | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
accommodations ought to be in demented, and the addition of Mr | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
Whittingdale has changed from before the election to after the election, | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
when he is now responsible for doing that implementation and the question | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
is now whether or not in view of these regulations he ought to now | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
just step back from taking those decisions simply because of the way | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
it looks and the way in which perceptions are important in | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
politics. I think that is the issue will stop its about whether or not | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
he should be taking those -- these decisions, in view of these | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
regulations. It's nothing to do with what he gets up to in his private | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
life, which is a matter for him. Since he became the Secretary of | :16:41. | :16:52. | |
State and since the election he had decided not to implement part of the | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
cross-party agreement. What point are you making there? The point that | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
I'm making is that there is a perception, the possibility of the | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
fact that he's done this because of, he knew that these revelations were | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
available to newspapers, perceptions are important in politics and I | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
think it would be better now if he didn't take these decisions about | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
implementation simply because of what happened. I'm not saying that | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
he shouldn't have done whatever he did in his private life, I'm not | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
interested in that. But his position has changed from before the election | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
to after the election on press regulation and I think that the | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
perceptions that that may be because of this story is important. I think | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
he needs to therefore step back in respect of this particular Anju | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
influence and allow someone else to take these decisions about | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
implementing Leveson. There was an agreement beforehand cross-party | :17:56. | :17:57. | |
that Levinson should be lamented in respect of part two of the inquiry | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
and in respect of the cost provisions, commencing section four | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
of the crime and Courts act, and the perception from before the election | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
to after the election has changed and the question will legitimately | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
be asked, is it anything to do with these facts and these revelations | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
about his private life? Do you think it is? I don't know and nobody knows | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
apart from the Secretary of State and the editors what the real | :18:26. | :18:27. | |
position is. Vista Whittingdale himself has said that there was | :18:28. | :18:34. | |
absolutely no conflict of interest. He hasn't done anything differently | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
as a result of what happened in his private life and the fact that | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
newspapers new and chose not to publish it. There was an agreement | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
cross-party placed onto the statute book in the crime and Courts act | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
about cost provisions for those newspapers, being applied to | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
newspapers who don't comply with it, who don't join the Levinson | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
compliant regulator and he has universally decided he will not | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
commence those revisions. It is about whether or not he was | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
adversely influenced in that respect and I think you would be better for | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
him and better for the government if somebody else were making those | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
decisions. That is the simple point I'm making, that there cannot be any | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
perception of undue influence. At the moment the way things stand, | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
there is that perception and I think he should step back from making | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
these decisions. What about the other decisions? He is also in | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
charge of media and mergers, should he stepped back from that? He should | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
certainly recuse himself from these decisions about Levinson. He has two | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
R Kinsella whether there is any perception of undue influence. And | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
he should have a very clear think about that. He already has. You know | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
his statement, there was no... He hasn't done anything differently as | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
a result and I think perceptions... I think perceptions matter in | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
politics. We have seen that over the Panama papers. Perceptions matter | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
and trust in politics matters and what we can't have is a Secretary of | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
State who, there is a potential perception that he is being overly | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
influenced by stories that the media may have on him and whether or not | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
they should be printed. I think he needs to step back from these | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
decisions and I think that the Prime Minister is keen to make sure that | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
the victims of phone hacking are properly dealt with, as he promised | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
before the election. He needs to make sure that the -- there is no | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
perception that the person making those decisions is unduly influenced | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
by stories the media may have on him. I just want to read his | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
statement because it is worth it for our audience. | :20:51. | :21:12. | |
Do you think, why do you think the newspapers didn't publish this | :21:13. | :21:20. | |
story? I don't know, you have to ask the editors that. I'm not interested | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
in second-guessing editors's decisions, what I'm saying is that | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
perception matters. He is responsible for press regulation, | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
there was an agreement cross-party placed before the last general | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
election, placed into legislation, and we need to make sure that these | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
revelations have nothing to do and are seen to have nothing to do with | :21:45. | :21:51. | |
the way he is now changing apperception is on the half of the | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
government. That means you don't take John Whittingdale at his word | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
when he says... No, it means that perceptions matter in politics. If | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
he thinks carefully about this, he would want to recuse himself from | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
these decisions. Should he have told the Prime Minister about this | :22:10. | :22:12. | |
relationship and the fact that some stories were sniffing around the | :22:13. | :22:15. | |
stories of the relationship before he took the job as Culture | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
Secretary? I think it would probably have been expected that something of | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
this significance should have been discussed, but that is a matter for | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
him and it's a matter for the Prime Minister. The reality is I'm not | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
interested in his private life, I'm interested in the perception of the | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
person making decisions about press regulation appearing to have the | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
press having an embarrassing story that they can hold over him. Thank | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
you very much, Maria Eagle, who is Labour's culture spokeswoman. | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
Here with me are Neil Wallis, a former Deputy Editor of the News | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
of the World and Daisy Cooper, who is joint executive director | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
It says on its website that it campaigns for a free and accountable | :22:57. | :23:05. | |
press. Let's take that point about perception, Neil. Do you accept | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
that? I think you can throw together any conspiracy theories you like. | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
Perceptions do matter in politics, don't they? They do and we can put | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
together all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories and create a | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
perception. That's what Hacked Off, that's what Labour and the BBC are | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
doing here today, they are creating a conspiracy suggesting that somehow | :23:31. | :23:38. | |
the media, this is the thrust of this, the print media have | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
themselves been in a conspiracy to cover this up and to have a hold | :23:43. | :23:49. | |
over John Whittingdale and it is nonsensical. I'm just asking the | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
questions. No, no, I realise that. The idea that you have the left-wing | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
Daily Mirror, the right wing is the right wing the sun, all getting | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
together... This is proof that self-regulation works. In the | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
post-Levinson in there. That is precisely what this proves. This | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
proves that what the great and the good are campaigning for, lessening | :24:17. | :24:25. | |
intrusions into privacy have worked, but what I know is that newspapers | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
have looked at this and they found a single man had an affair with a | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
single woman. There is no suggestion that he knew what her job was. So if | :24:33. | :24:40. | |
you look at what Hacked Off have been demanding and what the BBC have | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
been championing and what the Guardian are screaming from the | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
rooftops and the Independent incidentally have led the way on | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
this as well, it worked. They did not intrude into his privacy. It | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
would be really interesting to talk to one of those editors but none of | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
them have come onto the programme yet. Perhaps they will later. You | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
were shaking your head in disagreement with Neil, but isn't | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
this what you're campaign group has been campaigning for in the past few | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
years? Don't intrude into people's private lives? This is about policy. | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
Since jotting that -- John Whittingdale was made Culture | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
Secretary, he has been backtracking on policy that was agreed | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
cross-party and by the whole of Parliament. He has blocked critical | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
access to justice legislation which would guarantee access to justice | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
for victims of libel and press intrusion. His rhetoric around | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
Levinson part two', part two of the inquiry which will examine the | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
relationship between the press and police. The question is whether that | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
goes ahead rather than when, and we have been asking for a long time now | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
to tell us when you are backtracking, you should not block | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
this legislation and you should guarantee that you're going to | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
commence Levinson part two'. Isn't that about the inquiry is coming to | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
an end before they continue with Leveson part two'. The cross-party | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
agreement was that it would start after the criminal trials have | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
ended. What we have seen recently is that anonymous government sources | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
have been quoted in mainstream papers saying that after those | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
trials the question will be whether and rather than when. You are | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
linking that with the fact that newspapers had information about Mr | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
Whittingdale's private life a year before he became Culture Secretary. | :26:33. | :26:34. | |
We want to know why this backtracking has taken place and the | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
allegations that have been published and they are suggesting that there | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
is an due influence. You can bet your bottom dollar that if there was | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
any accusation of any other minister that was not responsible for the | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
press... An due influence from those four newspapers on Mr Whittingdale | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
as Culture Secretary to backtrack? These are the allegations that have | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
been made. By whom. A website of conspiracy theorists and not jobs. | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
It is a conspiracy Mac -- it is a website interested in | :27:08. | :27:16. | |
public interest journalism. If there were allegations about an due | :27:17. | :27:19. | |
influence or if you want to know about undue influence that is in the | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
Public interest and people should know about it. Let me give you an | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
example of part of the evidence on this story from this independent | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
journalist who has written a piece, he claims that the Independent | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
refused to publish this story because it rented rooms from the | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
Daily Mail. So this conspiracy is that they did not run the story in | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
case the Daily Mail evicted them! Conquers! | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
He is a political correspondent no longer working at the Independent | :27:51. | :28:05. | |
making also some claims about what the mail on Sunday is supposed to | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
have said. On the perception point, should Mr Whittingdale step back now | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
from any decisions on press regulation? What we want to see at | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
Hacked Off is we want to see Mr Whittingdale stop blocking this | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
critical access to justice legislation and we won the | :28:24. | :28:29. | |
confirmation that Leveson part two will actually go ahead. The Prime | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
Minister admitted that the relationship between the press and | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
politicians had got too cosy. He said that Gerina Piller Leveson | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
Inquiry. The perception is that that relationship has not changed at all. | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
-- he said it during the Leveson Inquiry. What we have here is the | :28:48. | :28:54. | |
most classic example of... Yes or no, should he step back? He is being | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
speared by Hacked Off. Thank you very much, both of you. | :29:01. | :29:11. | |
Thanks for coming on the programme. Your views on that story of course | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
very, very welcome. So many comments and I will try to read some more in | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
the next half-hour. Still to come, we hear from Ahmadi Muslims | :29:21. | :29:32. | |
fear for -- who fear for their safety after an increasing number of | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
attacks from other Muslims. Here is Joanna in the BBC newsroom. | :29:36. | :29:50. | |
Labour has called for Culture Secretary John Whittingdale to | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
withdraw from being involved in any decisions on press regulation, after | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
he confirmed he had been in irrigation ship with a woman who was | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
a sex worker. Mr Whittingdale was single when he met the woman on a | :30:02. | :30:08. | |
dating site in 2013, before he was in his post. Downing Street said he | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
was a single man in title to a private life and he had the full | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
confidence of the Prime Minister. Four newspapers knew about this | :30:17. | :30:18. | |
story but decided not to publish it. S Good morning. | :30:19. | :30:29. | |
REPORTER: Can you regulate the press after last night's revelations? I | :30:30. | :30:31. | |
have made a statement. I have nothing further to add. What about | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
what Labour are saying? Nothing further. | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
More than 2,000 pupils in Edinburgh, whose schools had been | :30:38. | :30:39. | |
closed because of concerns about their structural safety, | :30:40. | :30:41. | |
17 sites were shut last Friday amid fears over the standard | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
A further 5,000 younger pupils will be spending | :30:46. | :30:53. | |
a third day at home, and may not resume their studies | :30:54. | :31:05. | |
A company called Blairmore Holdings, set up by David Cameron's late | :31:06. | :31:07. | |
Britain's biggest supermarket, Tesco, is back in profit. | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
The company has reported its first sales growth in three years, | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
reporting a pre-tax profit of ?162 million for last year. | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
That compares to a loss of more than ?6 billion for the year before. | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
A drive towards lower prices and fewer products is | :31:26. | :31:27. | |
The company has also closed 60 unprofitable stores and sold off | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
The British playwright Sir Arnold Wesker has died, aged 83, | :31:32. | :31:42. | |
his wife Lady Wesker has confirmed to the BBC. | :31:43. | :31:45. | |
The writer first came to prominence in the late 1950s for his gritty, | :31:46. | :31:48. | |
working class dramas about everyday life. | :31:49. | :31:50. | |
His wife said he died yesterday evening after a long illness. | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11am. | :31:56. | :32:13. | |
Hugh will be here shortly. You can e-mail me. You can message us on | :32:14. | :32:23. | |
Twitter. There is texting and Facebooking as well. Here is the | :32:24. | :32:25. | |
sport from Hugh. Manuel Pellegrini put it like this: | :32:26. | :32:28. | |
Manchester City are one of the best They've reached the semi-finals | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
of the Champions League A 1-0 win over Paris ST Germain | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
at the Etihad last night completing Let's talk about this with our | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
football reporter Simon Stone. Simon this is a club that's come | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
a long way in the last ten years and had a lot of success, | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
but even so, a real achievement. It is, indeed, Hugh. Over the last | :32:46. | :32:52. | |
ten years with all the investment Manchester City won Premier League | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
titles, they have won FA Cups, they have won League Cups, they have | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
never got beyond the last 16 of the Champions League until this season. | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
They made the quarterfinals. Now, they are in the semifinals. We know | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
that Real Madrid are in there as well. We expect some of other | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
European clubs to be there. It is a real statement of intent from | :33:13. | :33:20. | |
Manchester City. A great moment for debruner getting that goal. It is | :33:21. | :33:26. | |
Manuel Pellegrini's last season and he leaves with what could be their | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
greatest triumph He was told in February that he would be leaving | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
his job at the end of the season and the Bayern Munich manager would be | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
coming in. There is the beautiful irony of them meeting in the | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
tournament either at the semifinals or possibly the final. Manuel | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
Pellegrini arrived as the quiet engineer. He is going to leave | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
Manchester City potentially making a very, very big noise indeed. Real | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
Madrid had a different task on their hands, didn't they? They were 2-0 | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
down and won 3-2 like City, but via a 3-0 win. Cristiano Ronaldo did the | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
hard work again? Absolutely. In Manchester City are breaking new | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
ground by reaching the semifinals then it is not a new experience for | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
Real Madrid and it is not a new experience for Cristiano Ronaldo to | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
be the standard-out performer. A hat-trick and once again stamping | :34:23. | :34:24. | |
his class as one of the best players in the world and he is a man to | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
avoid, I think. A lot to avoid for Manchester City, bearing in mind who | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
could be the semifinalists. We know two of the four that are through to | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
the last four. Tonight the others will be decided. Let's look at what | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
is to come later on. Barcelona defend a 2-1 first leg lead at | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
Atletico Madrid. Simon Stone, thank you very much | :34:48. | :34:59. | |
indeed for joining us. Victoria, it is back to you. | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
Has the killing of a Muslim shopkeeper in Glasgow exposed hatred | :35:06. | :35:08. | |
and prejudice within the Muslim community in this country? | :35:09. | :35:10. | |
Police have described the murder of Asad Shah last month | :35:11. | :35:12. | |
They are a small sect who many other Muslims think don't belong to Islam, | :35:13. | :35:22. | |
because of their different views on the prophet Muhammad. | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
Now we've been told by one Muslim group that they are increasingly | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
worried that Ahmadis may be attacked by other more extreme Muslims. | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
We'll be talking about this in a few minutes but first BBC Asian Network | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
reporter Athar Ahmad has been to the UK's biggest Ahmadi mosque. | :35:37. | :35:44. | |
Friday prayers at the Baitul Futuh mosque in south London. | :35:45. | :35:50. | |
It is the largest in the UK and thousands of worshippers have | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
come together to hear the weekly sermon. | :35:54. | :35:54. | |
It is airport-style security and we are vigilant and we look | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
We are not a professional outfit like the police but we do | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
37-year-old Farouq is an Ahmadi Muslim. | :36:04. | :36:06. | |
There are about 30,000 others like him in the UK. | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
But some Muslims do not recognise Ahmadis as being part of their faith | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
because of their belief in a prophet after Muhammad who came | :36:13. | :36:15. | |
This results in Ahmadis being labelled as apostates, | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
and in extreme cases worthy of being killed. | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
It's not usual to see such a high amount of security like this | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
at mosques in the UK but the worshippers | :36:28. | :36:29. | |
That is because there is a real feeling they may be at risk | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
Aneesa came to the UK in 2012 with her 15-year-old son Bilal. | :36:34. | :36:39. | |
She had been receiving death threats from her neighbours in Pakistan | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
She does not want us to show her face or Bilal's | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
because she's worried about being targeted. | :36:48. | :36:54. | |
They said, "We will cut you into pieces. | :36:55. | :36:56. | |
"We will break your legs and we will even cut your neck, | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
They do not consider us Muslim. But we are Muslim, God knows better. | :37:00. | :37:09. | |
Earlier this week the BBC discovered leaflets calling for the killing of | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
It comes after the killing of Asah Shah in his shop | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
A killing that might have been on religious grounds. | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
Fiyaz Mughal is from Tell Mama, a group which monitors Islamophobic | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
He says they are seeing an increase in anti-Ahmadi | :37:25. | :37:28. | |
We've had material where they are regarded as individuals | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
who should be exterminated, calling Ahmadis cockroaches, | :37:35. | :37:35. | |
and monkeys, calling Ahmadis individuals who should not have any | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
In a statement, the Home Office said: | :37:39. | :37:59. | |
Heavy security will continue to be a feature of some Ahmadi | :38:00. | :38:02. | |
Though many are praying a time will come when it is no longer needed. | :38:03. | :38:12. | |
We can now speak to two Ahmadi Muslims. | :38:13. | :38:14. | |
Ayesha Malik who emigrated from Pakistan two years ago | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
and Umar Nasser, President of the Ahmadi Muslim Student | :38:18. | :38:19. | |
Also here is Dr Sundas Ali, a Sunni Muslim and Islamic academic | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
as well as Iman Abou Atta from the organisation Tell Mama, | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
which has been monitoring anti-Ahmadi attacks. | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
Thank you very much for coming on the programme. What is the | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
difference between a Muslim and an Ahmadi Muslim? So the belief that | :38:40. | :38:45. | |
the majority of Muslims which are Sunni Muslims. They believe that | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
there is one God which is Allah and the final prophet is prophet peace | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
be upon him. Ahmadi s believe there was another prophet after Prophet | :38:59. | :39:04. | |
Muhammad who was born in Punjab in 1835. That's the major difference. | :39:05. | :39:12. | |
Would you agree with that? Yes, I think, broadly speaking that is the | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
main thee logical difference. I think we have a difference in how we | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
interpret the prophethood and we believe the prophet, we believe in | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
the founder of the Muslim community is also the second coming of the med | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
seeia that all major religions have been waiting for. Do you believe | :39:34. | :39:40. | |
that Ahmadi s are Muslims? I confirm to the beliefs that Sunni Muslims | :39:41. | :39:47. | |
conform to. If Sunni Muslims believe they are not, I would like, as an | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
academic, as a researcher, I do, I think it is important to speak to | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
everybody and to understand and I think ultimately at the end of the | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
day, it is God who judges, who is Muslim and who is non-Muslim, but of | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
course, as a category, as a Sunni Muslim, this is, you know, I conform | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
to that belief, but I do want to be open-minded and speak. Sure. It | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
sounds like you're saying he is not, she is not. I'm nobody to judge. I | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
think that people who judge are limited. I don't think human beings | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
can judge who is a Muslim and who is a non-Muslim. I think it is and of | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
course, I am not a relugeous scholar, but I think it is God who | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
ultimately judges, I don't discriminate against any of these. | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
There are a number of Muslims who discriminate against people like | :40:43. | :40:44. | |
yourself. What is the danger with that? Well, the worry is that when | :40:45. | :40:54. | |
you have people saying that Ahmadi s are not Muslims it says they may | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
look like Muslims and sound like Muslims, but they are not Muslims. | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
Don't let them trick you. Don't trust them. That can lead to | :41:02. | :41:10. | |
discrimination and persecution and that's what we see all the time when | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
a non-Muslim status has been written into law. | :41:17. | :41:26. | |
There are Pakistanis who are saying Pakistan is different. Is that | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
right? Or is there tension in this country? What is happening in | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
Pakistan is quite different. We have had a long history of severe and | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
brutal persecution. We have had our mosques torched and people's homes | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
have been burned down and you have to sign a form saying everything you | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
believe in is false to get a Pakistani passport. So it is | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
institutionalised sustained persecution. Obviously there is | :41:54. | :41:56. | |
nothing like that. There is no State sanctioned persecution in the UK, | :41:57. | :42:02. | |
but there have been pockets where if you like, Muslim heavy areas, where | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
certain communities who, I think, this also goes back to the Radio 4 | :42:09. | :42:17. | |
documentary that's being played about the rise of extremists coming | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
into the UK. I think the larger concern for me personally is that | :42:23. | :42:25. | |
ideology creeping into the UK and I think with the rise of that | :42:26. | :42:30. | |
extremist ideology you have certain individuals who do have hate filled | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
ideology and they do have... How does that manifest itself in | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
Britain? I think the thing to remember is that individuals who | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
have extremist inclin nations, they do exist in the UK. And that is a | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
problem of radicalisation that we are facing as a community, as a | :42:51. | :42:59. | |
society at large. And that just doesn't threaten Ahmadis that | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
threatens everyone in the community. Let me bring in the ammam then. What | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
kind of things have you been seeing and are these incidents on the rise? | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
So in the last year, we have been seeing an increase in anti-Ahmadi | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
rhetoric promoted in both the online sphere as well as on the street | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
level and recently following the unfortunate murder of the | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
shopkeeper, Asad Shah In Glasgow, we have seen an increase in attacks on | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
the Ahmadi community. We measure attacks that take place on Muslim | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
communities and we are not in a place to judge who is Muslim and who | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
is not. It is up to the perception of individuals to see who they are | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
and it is up to God eventually. But in terms of monitoring the | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
incidents, are you able to pinpoint who is, the people who are | :43:51. | :43:53. | |
perpetrating the attacks, whether it is verbal or physical? Absolutely. | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
Is it Muslims attacking Muslims? It comes from all kinds. It is from | :43:59. | :44:07. | |
different sectors of the Muslim community that perceive the Ahmadis | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
as non-Muslims and these messages of hate and promotion of hate and | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
intolerance, they don't fit well with the values of what the UK | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
stands for or any community. If you continue to play the background | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
noise of these messages, will that lead to? Will that lead to further | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
hate, further extreme messages going out? Further acts of extremism | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
taking place towards this community and other communities? And are you | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
hearing on university campuses these kind of negative experiences? Yeah, | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
absolutely. We have had some more severe incidents. So for instance | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
after one of our events in a major cofrt in London, the ex-president of | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
the Islamic Society there gave out leaflets to our audience calling for | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
our death. We have had students physically assaulted. Those are the | :44:58. | :45:00. | |
kind of exceptions, those aren't the rule, but at a lower level, you have | :45:01. | :45:07. | |
a sense of anti-Ahmadi prejudice. Islamic Societies have sent out | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
e-mails saying don't go to our ehaven'ts and they link to extremist | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
websites and even on a personal level, I remember when I was at my | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
university, I remember I once received an e-mail from the Islamic | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
Society saying you are not allowed to use the word, "Islam" In your | :45:25. | :45:31. | |
event title. They said you should call it Women in Ahmadi. What did | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
you do? I said you don't have a trademark on the name Islam. People | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
are allowed to self identify as they wish. This will be in the eyes of | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
God who is a Muslim and who isn't. We groups shouldn't start imposing | :45:46. | :45:48. | |
on other groups what they can and can't call themselves. | :45:49. | :45:54. | |
I think an important message coming through here is that there is a | :45:55. | :46:01. | |
small group of individuals who have hijacked a certain portion of the | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
religion. They assume the mantle of God's faithful and they have taken | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
it upon themselves what the correct theological position is and they | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
know that they are have described this phenomenon as holding the texts | :46:19. | :46:26. | |
hostage. The irony is twofold here. Firstly it is ironic because this | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
authority to compel or to judge was denied even to the Prophet himself, | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
the most revered person in Islamic history and in the Koran -- God says | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
you have no authority or no authority could to compel them. | :46:41. | :46:46. | |
Secondly, in what is probably the greatest testament of human rights | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
discourse in Islam, that religion and your spirituality is your rights | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
that you owe to God and that is the exclusive space between man and God. | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
Only God has the right to forgive transgressions or judge who is a | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
Muslim or a Christian or who is not a Muslim. Briefly, because we have a | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
few minutes left and I want to talk about possible... To finish, sorry. | :47:12. | :47:18. | |
I think the most important human rights are those to other human | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
beings and he says I will not forget those rights. It's kind of ironic | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
that those people... Do you agree with that? Yes, I think it is an | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
unfortunate situation that Muslims are facing at the moment or Islam as | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
a religion, that there are so many differences. Even the difference | :47:35. | :47:41. | |
with Sunni and Shia, that affects unity and effective leadership and | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
there are so many vital, grave issues that need to be addressed in | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
the Muslim community today such as extremism and terrorism and we are | :47:51. | :47:53. | |
not able to address these issues because there is this division. A | :47:54. | :47:58. | |
very real division, leading to violence in Pakistan, in Indonesia | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
and now it has been carried to the UK. There are bigger problems, | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
fundamental issues that Muslims need to focus on. In terms of this | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
particular tension we are talking about this morning, what are the | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
solutions? How could this be resolved? Is it just going to be | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
there forever? I think we can have disagreements on theology and | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
theological interpretations. This is the place to actually talk about it. | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
In the UK each one can express their own opinion. I think there is a line | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
we should not cross and that is when you start inciting hate the | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
different types of communities. That is already happening, that line is | :48:38. | :48:40. | |
being crossed. How do we get people to pull back from that? It is | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
promoting messages of tolerance and in the UK promoting messages of | :48:46. | :48:51. | |
unity that we have, no matter what the community is. No one is in a | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
place to judge any other person whether Muslim or Christian. | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
Promoting the messages of humanity and what people stand for and what | :49:01. | :49:06. | |
we stand for as universal values is important, and tackling these | :49:07. | :49:08. | |
messages of hate because if you don't stand against them and talk | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
about them, we need to highlight them because the problem is, with | :49:13. | :49:21. | |
anti-Ahmadi rhetoric out there, no one is rebutting these. That is a | :49:22. | :49:28. | |
problem. We denied the finality of the Prophet Muhammad, they say that | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
is a fundamental tenet but we affirm that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
upon him, was the final law bearing messenger but we agree with other | :49:40. | :49:42. | |
Muslims that there can be follower prophets who simply reform Muslims | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
after that and bring people back to God. They don't change Islam and | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
that is what we believe the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was. Most | :49:52. | :49:58. | |
people need to start thinking for themselves and realising this is not | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
something terribly different, this is something approachable. Even if | :50:03. | :50:10. | |
it is terribly different, you -- it doesn't justify violence. Violence | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
is never justified. It's important... Religion, instead of | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
being used as a vehicle of violence, it should be used to spread love and | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
compassion. Universities should come together, people of all faiths, to | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
promote love and peace in society and if your religion is not teaching | :50:34. | :50:36. | |
you that, you are not doing any service to your faith. Thank you | :50:37. | :50:42. | |
very much. We wish you all the best. The main story in the news today is | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
the Culture Secretary's previous relationship with a sex worker. This | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
is John Whittingdale leaving his home this morning. He says he did | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
not know what the woman did for a living and he ended the relationship | :50:56. | :50:58. | |
as soon as he found out. Neighbour are calling for him to withdraw from | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
being involved in any decisions on press regulation after four | :51:04. | :51:06. | |
newspapers knew about the story but decided not to publish it. Mr | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
Whittingdale denies that it has had any influence on his decisions as a | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
minister. Downing Street said he was a single man and entitled to a | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
private life and that he has the full confidence of the Prime | :51:21. | :51:23. | |
Minister. So many of you have got in touch with us this morning about the | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
story. Jenny says, who cares what this man has done as long as he did | :51:30. | :51:36. | |
not pay her with taxpayer's money. Another says this. | :51:37. | :51:52. | |
Next, womb cancer affects more than 8000 women a year in the UK and is | :51:53. | :52:14. | |
the fourth most diagnosed type but it is one of the lesser-known | :52:15. | :52:20. | |
cancers. Today a lesser-known cancer charity is warning that obesity may | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
be to blame for a rise in the number of cases in the last two decades. | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
Other factors linked to this form of cancer include a lack of exercise. | :52:29. | :52:32. | |
However, those warnings might ring hollow with deadbeat Vince, who was | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
in her 40s and regularly running marathons when she developed womb | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
cancer four years ago. We will be discussing medical details that you | :52:44. | :52:47. | |
may not want young children to hear, but you may, because they properly | :52:48. | :52:50. | |
won't know what we're talking about anyway. Hello, how are you. Very | :52:51. | :52:56. | |
well, thank you. Tell us what stories you notice first of all? -- | :52:57. | :53:03. | |
what causes. I went through menopause quite suddenly after years | :53:04. | :53:09. | |
of problems and I started having bleeding every now and again. Then | :53:10. | :53:19. | |
suddenly I developed what I thought was a period and it got heavier and | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
heavier and did not stop, so I went to see my doctor. I was very happy | :53:25. | :53:30. | |
because she referred me straightaway for an urgent scan to see what was | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
going on. Then I actually started bleeding very heavily indeed. | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
Clearly you had the tests and they discover they chew matter. Is that | :53:42. | :53:53. | |
right? Yes, the scant that I had, they had to discount cancer and then | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
I had a hysterectomy and that diagnosed me with cancer. I had a | :54:00. | :54:13. | |
full hysterectomy, I had everything and the test results showed that the | :54:14. | :54:23. | |
tumour hadn't actually split so I was diagnosed with stage 1B. | :54:24. | :54:30. | |
So in terms of the research today which is suggesting that womb | :54:31. | :54:40. | |
cancer, described as one of the lesser-known cancers, could be | :54:41. | :54:43. | |
related to obesity, clearly that is not relevant in your case, is it? | :54:44. | :54:50. | |
No. There's quite a lot of things that are linked, including being | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
overweight and there is a link between oestrogen and the fact that | :54:57. | :55:05. | |
your body is storing oestrogen and... Saying that, there are a lot | :55:06. | :55:14. | |
of women who develop womb cancer who are not overweight. A friend of mine | :55:15. | :55:24. | |
developed it and was not overweight. There are a lot of younger women | :55:25. | :55:37. | |
developing it as well. Women need to understand that it will form whether | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
you are overweight or over 60 or whatever, or I'm fit. It will form. | :55:43. | :55:49. | |
You know what I mean. I do, I do. Thank you very much for talking to | :55:50. | :55:53. | |
us and it's good to hear that you are OK. Thanks for coming on the | :55:54. | :55:54. | |
programme. Shadow culture Secretary Maria Eagle | :55:55. | :56:03. | |
has told this programme that John Whittingdale, the Culture Secretary, | :56:04. | :56:05. | |
should now withdraw from any decisions on press regulation. The | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
problem is not about whatever Mr Whittingdale gets up to in his | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
private life, he's entitled to his private life. The issue here is | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
about the fact that he regulates and is responsible for press regulation | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
and it's about perceptions. Before the election, there was | :56:25. | :56:35. | |
cross-party... That the Leveson 's recommendations ought to be | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
implemented. The position of Mr Whittingdale has changed from before | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
the election to after the election when he is now responsible for doing | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
that implementing. The question is whether in view of these revelations | :56:48. | :56:49. | |
he should step back from taking those decisions simply because of | :56:50. | :56:53. | |
the way it looks and the way in which perceptions are important in | :56:54. | :57:00. | |
politics and that is the issue, it's about whether or not he should be | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
taking these decisions in view of these revelations, nothing to do | :57:05. | :57:07. | |
with what he gets up to in his private life, which is a matter for | :57:08. | :57:13. | |
him. Right, but that is the nature of the revelation. He ended that | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
relationship over a year before he got the job as culture media and | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
sport Secretary. Since he became the Secretary of State he has decided | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
not to implement part of the cross-party agreement. So what point | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
are you making there? The point that I'm making is that there is a | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
perception, there is the possibility that he has done this because he | :57:36. | :57:42. | |
knew that these revelations were available to newspapers, perceptions | :57:43. | :57:45. | |
are important in politics and I think it would be better now if he | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
didn't take these decisions about implementation, simply because of | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
what happened. I'm not saying that he shouldn't have done whatever he | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
did in his private life, I'm not interested in that. But his position | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
has changed from before the election to after the election on press | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
regulation and I think that the perception that that may be because | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
of this story or what the media had on him is important. | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
Phil says the real Whittingdale scandal is a cover-up by the British | :58:17. | :58:25. | |
press. Another says leave him alone and let him concentrate on his job. | :58:26. | :58:30. | |
Another says it is all about trust, politicians | :58:31. | :58:32. | |
Let BBC Two whisk you away to a world of luxury, | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
boasting an impressive celebrity clientele... | :58:36. | :58:39. |