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The UK is joining forces with Europe's | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
other largest economies to make it hard for businesses and wealthy | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
individuals who use tax havens and highly secretive companies | :00:20. | :00:21. | |
We'll be speaking to a mother whose baby died after her | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
pleas for a caesarean section were ignored. | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
Now a senior coroner who examined the case is warning that more babies | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
And the shocking state of our childrens' teeth is revealed | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
We are getting so much advice on what to eat | :00:36. | :01:05. | |
and what we should feed children - is the message confusing you? | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
Now a leading food manufacturer has said we should only eat some | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
of its products some of the time because of their high | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
We are also talking to a group of women about their experiences | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
of childbirth and asking whether cost is affecting the | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning. | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE and if you text, | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
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A hammer blow against illegal tax dodgers - | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
that's the Chancellor is describing an agreement last night among | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
the European Union's five biggest economies - to share information | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
on the secret owners of companies and trusts. | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
The agreement was announced at an unprecedented joint press | :01:47. | :01:48. | |
conference of the finance ministers of Britain, Germany, France, | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
Britain joined Germany, France, Italy | :01:52. | :02:00. | |
and Spain to announce a crackdown on international tax dodging. | :02:01. | :02:09. | |
Chancellor George Osborne is among the five European finance ministers | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
Today we deal another hammer blow against those who would illegally | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
evade taxes and hide their wealth in the dark corners | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
Earlier, the president of the World Bank told me that | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
in the future tax cheats would find they have fewer places to hide. | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
Transparency is the way of the future. | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
We will not go backwards and become less transparent over time. | :02:35. | :02:45. | |
The notion you can hide illicit wealth or avoid paying taxes, | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
I hope that idea will be eroded more and more. | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
To crack this problem, more needs to be done. | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
Can politicians from the EU's five biggest economies | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
persuade leaders gathering here in Washington to join them? | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
The message coming out of the IMF World Bank meeting here | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
in Washington is that revelations contained | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
in the Panama Papers are of great concern for the global economy. | :03:10. | :03:17. | |
They are also a worry for elected politicians in Britain and abroad. | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
But will the actions taken here had been asked to help the economy | :03:22. | :03:23. | |
Michelle Fleury, BBC News, Washington. | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
Andrew Walker is our Economics Correspondent. | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
this agreement well, it addresses a question which had a bright light | :03:32. | :03:42. | |
shone on it by the revelations in the Panama papers. The specific | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
question of who is the ultimate beneficiary of these shell | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
companies, as they are sometimes known, the beneficial owners. The | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
plan is to automatically exchange information between the tax | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
authorities of these five particular companies. So it does address what | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
is undoubtedly an important question in international tax avoidance and | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
tax evasion. What you really need for it to make a decisive difference | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
is for a lot more countries to be involved. I know they will be asking | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
the G20, the major economies, to cooperate with doing this on a wider | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
basis. Thank you, Andrew. Let's catch up with the rest of the day's | :04:23. | :04:24. | |
news. Rebecca Jones is in the | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
BBC Newsroom. Here, a group of MPs is claiming | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
that tax evasion and criminal activity is costing the UK | :04:33. | :04:41. | |
?16 billion a year. The Public Accounts Committee says | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
tax officials at HMRC still aren't It wants a strategy put in place | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
by November to tackle the problem. But HMRC says that | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
tracking down tax evaders A senior coroner has warned | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
of a risk of future deaths if the NHS favours vaginal delivery | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
over caesarean sections on the basis Andrew Walker intervened | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
after the death of a newborn baby, whose mother was denied | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
a planned Caesarian. He said it made him fear that lives | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
were being put at risk. And coming on the programme, | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
we'll be discussing this and speaking to a mother whose baby | :05:12. | :05:13. | |
died after her pleas for a caesarean A man has been charged | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
with the attempted murder of a police woman after she was | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
seriously injured in an axe attack. The officer suffered multiple | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
injuries following the attack in Sheffield on Wednesday - | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
including a fractured skull and a broken leg, | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
and she lost a finger. Nathan Sumner, who's 35, | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
has also been charged Two teenage girls have been charged | :05:38. | :05:39. | |
with kidnapping a three-year-old The little girl went missing | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
from a Primark store on Wednesday. She was found just over | :05:47. | :05:55. | |
an hour later, about three | :05:56. | :05:57. | |
miles away in Gosforth. Two girls, aged 13 and 14, have been | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
charged with kidnap and shoplifting and are due to appear | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
at North Tyneside The maker of some of Britain's most | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
popular pasta sauces is bringing in a new labelling system to tell | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
customers some of its products should only be eaten once a week | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
because of their salt, Mars Food, whose | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
brands include Dolmio and Uncle Ben's, will divide | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
its range into products that can be eaten every day or only | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
occasionally, to reflect Government efforts to help people | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
make healthier choices. More than 100 operations a day | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
are being carried out in hospitals in England to remove rotten teeth | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
from children and teenagers. The Local Government Association | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
says the cost has jumped to more than ?35 million a year and many | :06:44. | :06:52. | |
children are missing school because they are taking time | :06:53. | :06:54. | |
off for dental work. But increasing numbers | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
of children's teeth are not OK. More and more kids are ending up | :06:57. | :07:07. | |
in the dentist's chair, The NHS in England is carrying out | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
100 operations every day. Five years ago, there | :07:10. | :07:21. | |
were more than 32,000 dental And increasing numbers of these | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
extractions are being done In fact, more children visit | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
hospital because of dental decay Fizzy drinks are being blamed, | :07:30. | :07:39. | |
along with food packed Over a year, us kids eat and drink | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
a whopping 5543 sugar cubes. This is an app designed to raise | :07:44. | :07:53. | |
awareness of the amount You have to brush from the gum | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
to the tooth. But old-style education needs | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
to be reinforced as well, campaigners say, if we are to | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
protect our children's smiles and prevent a generation facing | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
costly dental problems. And we will be talking to a family | :08:08. | :08:24. | |
who have a 5-year-old with our teeth shortly. | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
Rescue teams have spent the night searching for people trapped | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
in rubble after a powerful earthquake struck Japan. | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
Nine people are now known to have died and nearly 800 others injured. | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
Our correspondent Rupert Wingfield Hayes has this report. | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
Video like this of a wall collapsing gives an idea of just how violent | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
Inside the local TV newsroom, a CCTV camera sways wildly | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
It may have only been a 6.2 quake, but it was very shallow | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
and the shaking so powerful it could be felt in Tokyo, | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
It was followed by a number of powerful aftershocks, | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
People were so scared that many spend the rest of the night | :09:05. | :09:13. | |
wrapped in blankets, sleeping in the open. | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
TRANSLATION: I felt the ground shake horizontally and vertically. | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
I was unable to stand because of the strong tremors. | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
Daylight brought a clearer picture of the extent of the damage. | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
Scores of houses with tiles swept off their roofs. | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
At least 19 buildings have collapsed, most in the town. | :09:31. | :09:42. | |
Nine people are reported to have died here and a number | :09:43. | :09:44. | |
TRANSLATION: I am praying for those who perished in the earthquake and | :09:45. | :09:55. | |
offering my sympathy to the families of the deceased, they entered and | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
evacuated and all those affected by the disaster. The government | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
continues to do everything it can to rescue and assist survivors. | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
Japan's only operating nuclear power plant is around 120 kilometres | :10:06. | :10:07. | |
Authorities there report there has not been any | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
damage, and the plant is operating normally. | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Rupert Wingfield-Hayes, BBC News, in Tokyo. | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
The EU referendum campaign formally begins today, | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
with voters able to decide whether the UK should stay in - | :10:24. | :10:25. | |
Both campaigns will highlight their core messages | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
The amount that they can spend is now subject to strict rules. | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
Former chancellor Alistair Darling said there are "credible warnings | :10:37. | :10:38. | |
of economic disaster", should the UK leave the EU. | :10:39. | :10:45. | |
None of the people in the leave campaign can actually tell us what | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
out of Europe looks like. They all admit it would take some years to be | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
able to rebuild alliances. Why go back cap in hand when we could get | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
the reforms we want by building alliances that we have now, and | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
build on the fact that we have the biggest market anywhere in the | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
world, which businesses directly and indirectly depend upon? That is how | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
we will create jobs in the future and make sure we have enough tax to | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
pay for the health service and other services we rely upon. | :11:19. | :11:20. | |
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are following in the footsteps | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
of Prince Charles today as they trek into the mountains of Bhutan. | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
It's a walk and climb that will take up to six hours | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
towards the Tiger's Nest monastery, a journey completed by William's | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
Scientists in the United States say they've solved one of nature's great | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
navigation mysteries - how Monarch butterflies migrate | :11:40. | :11:40. | |
They've created a model showing how the insects use the sun to stay | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
on course for their incredible 3000 mile journey. | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
It is the longest migration of any insect. | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
So scientists want to understand how the humble butterfly makes this | :11:58. | :12:08. | |
To investigate, the University of Washington scientists | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
and their colleagues studied individual tethered butterflies, | :12:13. | :12:14. | |
recording from their antennae and eyes as they flew. | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
This revealed that the insects have an internal compass, | :12:22. | :12:23. | |
able to keep them on course using only the position of the sun. | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
The team has now built a model circuit that works in just the same | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
way as the solar compass in every butterfly's brain. | :12:30. | :12:31. | |
A navigating system that uses the sun to work out the direction | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
of travel, then make adjustments to stay on a southern | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
The researchers eventually plans to build robotic insects that | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
are both powered by and able to navigate using only the sun. | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
One possible mission for a robotic butterfly would be to track them | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
as they migrate, helping scientists to work out why this unique | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30. | :12:53. | :13:05. | |
Now back to Joanna. In a moment, we will be talking to the parents of a | :13:06. | :13:13. | |
baby boy who died five days after he was born after being starved of | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
oxygen at birth. His mum says her pleas for a Caesarean section were | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
ignored. Do get in touch with us throughout the programme. Let us | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
know your thoughts on Caesarean section. We are talking more widely | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
about what the cost is a factor in the options that mothers to be our | :13:33. | :13:34. | |
being given in hospital. Use the hashtag VictoriaLive | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Let's catch up with the sport. | :13:40. | :13:49. | |
We are talking Liverpool this morning. | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
I imagine Liverpool fans are still trying to catch | :13:54. | :13:55. | |
Extraordinary events at Anfield last night as Liverpool took | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
on Borussia Dortmund in the Europa League. | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
In the most dramatic of comebacks, Liverpool came from 2-0 down, | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
and then 3-1 down to stun Dortmund and reach the semi-finals. | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
Dortmund were the tournament favourites before this, | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
but Dejan Lovren's winning header in injury time gave them a 4-3 | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
victory on the night, and a 5-4 win on aggregate. | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
Really, that is the moment in football and in life | :14:22. | :14:33. | |
where you have to show character. | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
On to boxing, and look who's joined me - | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
Anthony Joshua, Britain's newest heavyweight champion. | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
Thank you for coming on. You spent the last week as a World Champion. | :14:46. | :14:57. | |
How does it feel? It was humbling. It was great, moving on from the | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
Olympics to the professional ranks and achieving World Champion status. | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
It was great to get support from the country and it just shows my hard | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
work paying off. I have followed your career for quite a while, and | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
it has always interested me that you have never engaged in verbal | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
sparring. It seems a part of boxing and even Muhammad Ali was a great | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
verbal spire. That is just not my arena. I do not get involved in it. | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
-- verbal spire. I like to focus on my boxing. It is the way that I have | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
been raised. At the same time, being that way, it does not mean that I | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
take nonsense from people because I had to stand my ground and let | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
people know that I am a force to be reckoned with. The perception of | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
modern-day boxing is that it is quite brash and boastful, but you | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
seem to be the complete opposite of that, the contrast. Your motto is | :15:51. | :15:57. | |
stay humble. You are almost doing it very differently, in boxing. | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
There are thousands of people who watch us and we get so much | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
attention, I don't go out of character to create more retention, | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
I like a peaceful life outside of boxing. Does create more attention. | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
In my job I get enough attention. In the ring you are doing very well. | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
Saturday night, when you won the world title, did it play out as you | :16:24. | :16:31. | |
expected? I said I would show him my level, credit to Charles Martin, he | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
was ranked number two and he managed to win the IBF title. Challenge the | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
top contender, coming over to the UK, and then he fell short. Our | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
training camp was great and I'm happy that I got the decision and | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
that I got to knock him out because people come to see that. Everyone is | :16:52. | :16:58. | |
talking about you and Tyson Fury. They would like us to unify, | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
unification fight, I want to wish him the best, Klitschko is a good | :17:04. | :17:12. | |
friend of mine, as well, but for Tyson Fury and myself, to get a | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
unification, that would be great. We will meet definitely sometime in the | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
near future. When can we next see you in action? June 25, sometime | :17:23. | :17:31. | |
before Klitschko Tyson Fury mag after, let them have their day and | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
then we will come around and defend my belt sometime soon. I want to be | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
an active champion. You are the world champion, you have added that | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
to your Commonwealth and Olympic titles, is there anything left? It | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
has only been an eight year journey, when you first got into boxing. It | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
has been good. It is a lot of hard work. You get to enjoy it for week | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
at the Olympics was tough, a good experience, the pros has been very | :18:04. | :18:11. | |
tough, but a good experience, if I can maintain at this level for | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
another ten years, we can make more history. And today, thanks for | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
joining us. Good luck. That is all the sports now. STUDIO: Thanks for | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
joining us. Are women in need of caesareans | :18:26. | :18:27. | |
being denied them on the NHS, A senior coroner has written | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
to the health secretary to raise concerns about women's | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
access to caesareans. Andrew Walker's intervention came | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
after he heard in a recent inquest how a baby died after his mother's | :18:41. | :18:42. | |
pleas for a caesarean Kristian Jaworski was starved | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
of oxygen during a prolonged Doctors insisted on trying | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
to deliver him with forceps rather By the time they realised | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
their mistake, Kristian had suffered We can speak to his parents | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
Tracey Taylor and her partner Bart Jaworski and to Paul McNeil, | :19:00. | :19:10. | |
Head of Medical Negligence He represented the family | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
at the inquest, and in Thanks for joining us, it must be | :19:14. | :19:25. | |
difficult for you to talk about something which only happened last | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
June, and devastating for the two of you, we appreciate you coming in. | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
Tell us more about the concerns that you had before the birth of | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
Christian. You had had issues with the birth of your first son sometime | :19:43. | :19:49. | |
before? It was a difficult birth, quite traumatic, he was small, only | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
five lbs eight, he was delivered by forceps. He had a low heart rate. | :19:57. | :20:08. | |
When he was born I was told I had a narrow Birkenau and if I thought | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
about having any other children I should consider a Caesarean section | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
as that is what I would have to have -- narrow birth canal. At that point | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
I remember thinking, I'd only just had my first child and this lady is | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
mentioning to me about future children and I've just been through | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
that experience. When I fell pregnant with Kristian this is | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
something I highlighted from the beginning, I mentioned it to my GP | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
and my with wife and throughout my pregnancy to my consultant and my | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
midwife and I was constantly reassured that my body would have | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
changed and everything would be OK. They did not take into account the | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
fact that Sebastien was a small baby and Kristian was much larger. It is | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
felt that they did not listen to me and I was not taken seriously. You | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
were saying that you had been told that you should consider it? I told | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
them I was told I should have a Caesarean and I wanted their | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
guidance on that. They just reassured me that I would be fine, | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
they said my body would have stretched during the first pregnancy | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
in delivery and it would be fine. You accepted that and you went | :21:25. | :21:31. | |
forward? Kind of. I mentioned it constantly, and I wasn't 100% | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
reassured by that. When I went into the delivery room, I was the | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
reaction is, because in my mind I was going back to what I'd been told | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
by a consultant, that everything will probably be OK, but there is | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
always the option for an emergencies as Aryan. When I went into hospital, | :21:51. | :21:58. | |
I was frightened -- emergency Caesarean. It is like going into the | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
unknown, I was not certain what was going to happen and I was frightened | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
by that. What happened? When was the Caesarean first mentioned and how | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
was it dealt with? When I was in Labour with Kristian, it was about | :22:16. | :22:23. | |
five o'clock, we were told that we will being transferred to theatre. | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
They said the safest place to do this was in theatre and they would | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
try and instrumental delivery and if that was not successful it would be | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
a Caesarean and I had to sign a form to agree to that. We were taken to | :22:39. | :22:46. | |
theatre at about 515 and we had been told that they would be trying | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
forceps but what we were not prepared for was the length of time | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
that they would be trying to get him out. How long did that continue? It | :22:57. | :23:04. | |
felt like forever. Close to a good hour. It felt like ages. There were | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
a few times when they were pulling him quite hard and they pulled me | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
off the bed and they had to lift me back onto the bed. I kept telling | :23:16. | :23:22. | |
them, I was tired. Because of the force of the procedure? Yes. They | :23:23. | :23:28. | |
had to get her back up. I kept telling them I was tired and I could | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
not push any more but they kept on saying, try once more, keep trying. | :23:35. | :23:43. | |
At 1.I said to Bart and I said I cannot do any more, I feel sick and | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
tired -- at one point I said. They kept saying to me, try once more, | :23:49. | :23:56. | |
and then at 1.1 the doctors said -- at one point the doctors said I | :23:57. | :24:04. | |
could not have a Caesarean as they had already cut me, but then they | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
decided they were doing the Caesarean and the epidural had not | :24:10. | :24:12. | |
worked and I felt Ben Cutting me. I had to be put out -- I felt them | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
cutting me. I do not remember anything from them. When you woke | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
up, what we're told? -- were you told? When I woke up I saw Bart and | :24:28. | :24:38. | |
I had an oxygen mask on, and I remember looking at the cot and | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
Kristian was not there and I asked where my baby was. He said, he's not | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
well. I thought it was my fault at first. I was not very well. No one | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
explain to me properly what had happened and they spoke to Bart and | :24:58. | :25:05. | |
his mum came to the hospital and so did my mum, they explained to them, | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
but no one came to explain to me properly. It was not until I got to | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
the hospital in London where it was explained fully what was wrong with | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
Kristian and what had happened. Bart, what was happening with you? | :25:22. | :25:29. | |
What will you told? -- were you told. I was sent to the waiting | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
sweet as soon as they started preparing for the C section, I was | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
waiting for at least 90 minutes before a consultant spoke to me. I | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
was more concerned, it had been a long day and I had not slept, | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
adrenaline was pumping. I wanted to know they were all right, basically. | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
That was my main fear and concern, that they were both all right. When | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
the consultant told me that he was born and the word he used, he came | :26:04. | :26:12. | |
out floppy, I did not know how to react. Yeah... Hard to explain, | :26:13. | :26:26. | |
really. There was an inquest and the coroner did not find the trust | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
negligent but he has accepted that the trust... The trust has accepted | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
liability for the death of Kristian, they have accepted mistakes were | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
made. How did you feel when you realise that mistakes had been made | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
and things could have been different? I think I knew from the | :26:44. | :26:52. | |
start. I had spoken to the doctors at the UCLA child but all about the | :26:53. | :27:00. | |
delivery, -- UCLA hospital about the delivery, because I could not | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
believe what we had been through, and I knew from the start that it | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
was not as straightforward, that it was just something that happened at | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
that time, and I think I knew there were mistakes that had been made. | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
Not listing to me throughout my pregnancy, and on the night itself, | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
as well -- listening. How did you cope with that? If you were worrying | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
that you were not being listened to, what was that like? It is scary, | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
because you trust them, you are in hospital. You are in a place where | :27:36. | :27:41. | |
you think they will not let anything happen to you or your baby. That is | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
what you feel, I consultant, she said you have got to trust us, and I | :27:48. | :27:55. | |
thought, she is right, they will not let anything happen, why would they | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
do that? -- my consultant. Paul, you have been the lawyer for them | :28:00. | :28:07. | |
through this, the trust completely denies there was any financial | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
consideration regarding the delaying of a Caesarean for Tracy and they | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
said the team continued with a natural delivery for clinical | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
reasons alone. What evidence was there for the coroner to say that | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
cost was a factor? Firstly, there were clinical reasons to perform the | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
Caesarean section before Labour began and I disagree with what the | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
trust say, but secondly the coroner had evidence over three days from | :28:38. | :28:44. | |
the midwives and the obstetricians at the trust and the coroner had its | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
own expert to give evidence at the inquest. The coroner found that the | :28:50. | :28:57. | |
presumption is in all hospitals that women should have a joiner delivery | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
and one of the reasons for this presumption is cost and that is why | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
he has written to the Secretary of State and health, to ask whether or | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
not this should be changed. Was cost ever something that crossed your | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
mind as being a factor? When you said that you had been advised that | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
you should go for a Caesarean, how was it handled? Cost was never | :29:24. | :29:31. | |
mentioned. It is only after what we have been through, and seen many | :29:32. | :29:38. | |
stories, that are similar to ours, that it seems to be a contributing | :29:39. | :29:44. | |
factor to the decisions made about a Caesarean. One of the things, Paul, | :29:45. | :29:51. | |
that Tracey has said, she was not listened to. You have represented | :29:52. | :29:58. | |
many people in cases of medical negligence, is that Eric Berry | :29:59. | :30:05. | |
theme? It is. -- is that a recurring theme? It seems that mothers are not | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
listened to and this can lead to significant tragedy as Tracey and | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
Bart have suffered. Many people getting in touch regarding this. | :30:16. | :30:23. | |
Stacey says she had an emergency C section following a 48 hour Labour, | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
as her baby's heartbeat was failed to be detected on the monitor, she | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
woke up not knowing that her baby was alive, luckily was fine, but it | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
could have been different and she does not know why doctors will not | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
offer early C sections. She said she had to argue with her consultant to | :30:42. | :30:47. | |
have her second child with C section, because she was so | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
frightened. E-mail from Victoria, she says she went to a traumatic | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
birth which was as a direct result, she believes, of trying to avoid a C | :30:55. | :31:03. | |
section. It was clear that the husband will try to do anything to | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
avoid a C section. Lisa says she was experiencing a very long and she had | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
had a cervical biopsy which her GP said might make delivery possible, | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
but this was not in her notes. Lots of people getting in touch about | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
their different experiences. In terms of Tracey and Bart, where do | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
things go from here? The hospital has accepted responsibility for | :31:31. | :31:37. | |
Kristian boss death and they have acknowledged mistakes were made. | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
The hospital did several good things. Firstly, they said sorry to | :31:42. | :31:48. | |
Tracey and barked, and that is a good thing. Secondly, the reported | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
this case to the coroner, which sometimes does not happen. -- Tracey | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
and Bart. Secondly, they completed an investigation last year. But they | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
did not admit liability until the day before the inquest, which is | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
upsetting for Tracey and Bart. Furthermore, they have only admitted | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
liability in relation to the death of Christian, not in relation to | :32:13. | :32:20. | |
potential claims of Tracey and Bart. I know this is not about money for | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
them, but it would be important for them to receive an acknowledgement | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
that mistakes were made and compensation is due for both of | :32:30. | :32:41. | |
them. What would you two like? There is no amount of money that will | :32:42. | :32:48. | |
bring my son back. I cannot go and buy him back. I want people to learn | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
a lesson from what has happened to us and I do not want anybody else to | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
go through the same things again. I think people need to understand that | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
you need to listen to mothers and don't just categorise us as having | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
an irrational fear about giving birth. It is about the individual | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
person and you need to listen to us more. Did you feel, Bart, that | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
Tracey was not listened to during the course of the birth? It was not | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
just heard that was mentioned. It was me as well. From day one, it was | :33:23. | :33:32. | |
mentioned. I just find it hard that it was not followed through in more | :33:33. | :33:41. | |
detail. And as Tracy is saying, honestly two obviously nothing can | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
bring your son back. What would you like the hospital to do? -- | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
obviously nothing can bring your son back. They did say sorry and they | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
did report the case to the coroner and they have had an investigation. | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
Lessons have been learned, they say. What would make a difference? In | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
terms of justice, make sure it does not happen to anyone else, so they | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
do not have to go through what we have gone through. It has been | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
painful and traumatic and we live with it every day. I just don't want | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
to see it happen to other people because it is not pleasant. It is a | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
bad experience, really. Did you want to say something? I think it is | :34:23. | :34:28. | |
important for Tracey and Bart to hear what the Department of Health | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
is going to say in relation to the issue raised by the coroner. They | :34:32. | :34:38. | |
have to respond by a certain date? By the 31st of May. It will be | :34:39. | :34:41. | |
interesting to hear what the department has to say because we | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
believe it is not just a problem in the North Middlesex Hospital, it is | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
a problem across the country. Thank you very much for coming in, Tracey | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
and Bart. North Middlesex University Hospital has given us a statement | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
from the director of medicine, apologising for the tragic death of | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
baby Christian. We've also had a statement | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
from Health Minister Ben We will be discussing whether | :35:08. | :36:09. | |
mothers should be free to opt for a Caesarean later on the show with a | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
leading midwife and women who have chosen that procedure. | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
newspaper editors are back in court today to trying to get an injunction | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
banning the reporting of a celebrity threesome being made public. | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
And is sugar ruining your children's teeth? We will be talking to a | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
mother whose five old as rotten teeth because he smacked too much on | :36:35. | :36:36. | |
juice and fruit. -- 5-year-old son. Britain has agreed to work | :36:37. | :36:43. | |
with other major European countries They'll share information | :36:44. | :36:52. | |
on the secret owners The Chancellor, George Osborne, | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
said the decision dealt a "hammer blow" to those who try | :36:58. | :37:05. | |
to hide their wealth. Here, a group of MPs is claiming | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
that tax evasion and criminal activity is costing the UK | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
?16 billion a year. The Public Accounts Committee says | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
tax officials at HMRC still aren't It wants a strategy put in place | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
by November to tackle the problem. But HMRC says that | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
tracking down tax evaders A senior coroner has warned | :37:26. | :37:27. | |
of a risk of future deaths if the NHS favours vaginal delivery | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
over caesarean sections on the basis Andrew Walker intervened | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
after the death of a newborn baby, whose mother was denied | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
a planned Caesarian. He said it made him fear that lives | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
were being put at risk. I just remember waking up and I had | :37:48. | :38:09. | |
an oxygen mask on. And I saw Bart's face. I remember looking at the | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
court and Kristian was not there. And I asked him where my baby was. | :38:16. | :38:22. | |
And they said, he is not well. I thought it was my fault because I | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
was not very well. But nobody had come to explain properly what had | :38:29. | :38:29. | |
happened. A man has been charged with | :38:30. | :38:31. | |
the attempted murder of a police woman after she was seriously | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
injured in an axe attack. The officer suffered multiple | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
injuries following the attack in Sheffield on Wednesday - | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
including a fractured skull and a broken leg, | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
and she lost a finger. Nathan Sumner, who's 35, | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
has also been charged Two teenage girls have been charged | :38:46. | :38:47. | |
with kidnapping a three-year-old The little girl went missing | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
from a Primark store on Wednesday. She was found just over | :38:54. | :39:00. | |
an hour later, about three Two girls, aged 13 and 14 have been | :39:01. | :39:02. | |
charged with kidnap and shoplifting and are due to appear | :39:03. | :39:10. | |
at North Tyneside Magistrates' The maker of some of Britain's most | :39:11. | :39:13. | |
popular pasta sauces is bringing in a new labelling system to tell | :39:14. | :39:24. | |
customers some of its products should only be eaten once a week | :39:25. | :39:27. | |
because of their salt, Mars Food, whose | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
brands include Dolmio and Uncle Ben's, will divide | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
its range into products that can be eaten every day or only | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
occasionally, to reflect Government efforts to help people | :39:37. | :39:38. | |
make healthier choices. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
News - more at 10.00am. But for now, back to join. And we | :39:44. | :39:53. | |
will be picking up on that story about some of the products you | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
should be consuming once a week according to the manufacturers. | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
There are two of them. Let us know your thoughts on that. Let's catch | :40:01. | :40:08. | |
up with the sport. Jess has the details. | :40:09. | :40:08. | |
The newspaper back pages are calling it a miracle. | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
Liverpool staged one of the most dramatic comebacks in the club's | :40:12. | :40:13. | |
history last night, as they came from 2-nil down, | :40:14. | :40:15. | |
and then 3-1 down to beat Borussia Dortmund 4-3 on the night, | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
5-4 on aggregate, and go through to the semi-finals | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
Newcastle United say they're "dismayed" after a tribunal ruled | :40:21. | :40:32. | |
they had dropped Yonas Gutierrez because he'd been diagnosed | :40:33. | :40:34. | |
They found the club froze him out of the first team in order to avoid | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
Fernando Alonso has been cleared to compete | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
in the Chinese Grand Prix, after his crash last month. | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
The Spaniard had to sit out the Bahrain Grand Prix two weeks | :40:46. | :40:47. | |
ago, but doctors gave him the go-ahead for this weekend, | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
after he came through first practice in Shanghai. | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
And Commonwealth champions Jazz Carlin and Fran Halsall, | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
missed out on automatic Olympic qualification at the British | :41:00. | :41:01. | |
Carlin won the 800 metre freestyle, and Halsall the 50 metres free, | :41:02. | :41:09. | |
but both failed to get the required time for a spot in Rio. | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
That is all the headlines for now. More sport at ten o'clock. | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
For many celebrities, while being famous has its perks, | :41:19. | :41:20. | |
one major downside is a lack of privacy. | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
One well-known person in the entertainment business | :41:24. | :41:26. | |
is currently trying to prevent a Sunday newspaper from making | :41:27. | :41:28. | |
public their extra-marital sexual activities. | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
We can't tell you any more as it's currently subject to an injunction | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
Today, though, the Sun on Sunday is appealing | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
Here's a reminder what we can and can't tell you. | :41:39. | :43:09. | |
Well, we can speak to our legal eagle Clive Coleman | :43:10. | :43:11. | |
who is at the Court of Appeal in Central London. | :43:12. | :43:14. | |
So that was a quick run through of the background to this. Tell us what | :43:15. | :43:22. | |
happens today. Well, I didn't quite see what was in the pictures you | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
have shown so I am not sure what you have explained, so let me briefly | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
tell you what I know that I am able to reports today and explained what | :43:33. | :43:39. | |
is going to happen. What we now is that PJS, as the celebrity is known, | :43:40. | :43:45. | |
is someone in the entertainment business, married to someone known | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
only as YMA, also a well-known figure in that business and the | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
couple have young children. Forgive me if I am repeating what has | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
already been on screen. In January, PJS was granted an injunction by the | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
Court of Appeal. Originally, a High Court judge had looked at this | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
application and have refused the injunction on the grounds that the | :44:07. | :44:12. | |
sun on Sunday was entitled to correct or address the public image | :44:13. | :44:20. | |
presented by this celebrity. The judge realised how important an | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
issue this was, so he retained the injunction and the appeal took place | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
in January. The Court of Appeal disagreed and granted the | :44:29. | :44:31. | |
injunction. Today, what is happening is that the Sun on Sunday is coming | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
back to the Court of Appeal to argue that the injunction should be lifted | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
because since January, when only the paper and its source knew of the | :44:42. | :44:45. | |
identities of the people involved in this, there has been a huge amount | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
of speculation and it appears that the celebrity and the celebrity's | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
spouse had been named online on social media and in newspapers | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
abroad, and by a Scottish newspaper. So the Sun on Sunday returns to | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
court today, one would imagine to argue that things have changed very | :45:05. | :45:10. | |
considerably now. The identity of PJS and YMA is now widely known, and | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
therefore the injunction should be lifted. The court has to bear in | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
mind, in the granting and maintaining of any injunction, the | :45:20. | :45:22. | |
extent to which information is already in the public domain. That | :45:23. | :45:28. | |
is the argument that we will hear today. Thank you, Clive. Coming up, | :45:29. | :45:37. | |
the firm behind me or pasta sauces and uncle Ben is Rice says that some | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
of their products should only be consumed once a week because of high | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
sugar or fat content. Should other manufacturers follow their lead? | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
Once largely unknown to the world outside Japan, | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
manga - Japanese comics - and anime - or Japanese animation - | :45:58. | :45:59. | |
In Tokyo they're so big that some are choosing to style | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
their appearance inspired by their favourite Japanese anime characters. | :46:04. | :46:05. | |
This is the story of 24-year-old Senanan: | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
That was 24-year-old Senanan who styles herself on her favourite | :46:11. | :49:28. | |
Many of you getting in touch after the discussion about Caesarean | :49:29. | :49:47. | |
sections. And Tracey and Bart, whose son died five days after he was | :49:48. | :49:53. | |
born, after a Caesarean section was very delayed in his childbirth and | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
he suffered problems which led to his death. Kersten says she had | :49:57. | :50:03. | |
excellent service from NHS midwifery, amazing staff, could not | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
have been better, 5-star from the start. Natalie says she had a | :50:07. | :50:15. | |
serious infection with serious cardiac convocations and she begged | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
for a C section but she was refused -- complications. She says many | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
months later she is still under the care of cardiology. Another person | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
says her sister had high blood pressure and protein in her you're | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
in, swollen ankles, even though she had reached her due date they had | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
asked to keep her ring, she asked for a C section, but they refused | :50:40. | :50:46. | |
and she was sent home. She was told her baby had died because her waters | :50:47. | :50:50. | |
broke and the baby drop, the cord was caught around her neck and she | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
died. She had to go through ten hours of Labour knowing her baby was | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
dead. We will talk more about that later in the programme. | :51:03. | :51:04. | |
There's been a big rise in the number of children | :51:05. | :51:06. | |
who are having rotten teeth taken out at hospitals in England. | :51:07. | :51:09. | |
New figures reveal that the cost of removing teeth in children | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
and teenagers has soared by 66% in the last five years, | :51:15. | :51:16. | |
leading to fears that youngsters' consumption of sugar | :51:17. | :51:18. | |
Dental decay is the biggest single reason for five to nine year | :51:19. | :51:28. | |
olds being admitted to hospital, according to the analysis | :51:29. | :51:30. | |
So what's the government doing to cut down on kids' sugar | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
consumption and what is it like for the families concerned? | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
Let's speak to Dr Rachel Maynard, who as well as being an A doctor, | :51:39. | :51:45. | |
she is also a mum to 5-year-old Sam and 8-year-old Emily. | :51:46. | :51:47. | |
We can also talk to Professor Nigel Hunt, | :51:48. | :51:49. | |
head of Dental Surgery at the Royal College of Surgeons. | :51:50. | :51:55. | |
Nice to see you. Tell us, Rachel, but the situation is with your | :51:56. | :52:07. | |
children? Your son has had issues? We started going to the dentist for | :52:08. | :52:15. | |
regular checkups and we were told that he had decay at the back of his | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
mouth, in the upper teeth, and we had chosen to go to a private | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
dentist because before I had children I had a private dentist and | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
it seemed the natural step. I was not certain on how I would easily | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
get an NHS dentist and I feel for regular checkups it is very | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
straightforward, but when there are problems, who do you see next and | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
what do you do? We were referred to a paediatric dentist who tell us | :52:46. | :52:50. | |
that he would have to have two teeth removed at the back. Because they | :52:51. | :52:56. | |
are too badly decayed to do fillings or any other work. We can see, very | :52:57. | :53:03. | |
kindly you came in earlier and we had a look in your mouth. We can see | :53:04. | :53:12. | |
your beautiful teeth. It is the top two at the back. What did they say | :53:13. | :53:21. | |
about what had caused the issues? The brushing plan that we had was | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
not working, and we were informed at that stage that you need to brush | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
your child's teat until you are eight. -- teeth. We tried to | :53:30. | :53:36. | |
supervise his teeth brushing but we were letting Sam do a lot of teeth | :53:37. | :53:42. | |
brushing himself. The issue was the teeth at the back which are | :53:43. | :53:45. | |
difficult to get to? Especially the upper ones, children do not think | :53:46. | :53:48. | |
about that when they are doing the bottom teeth. What was it like for | :53:49. | :53:54. | |
Emily? We have not had the same problems, they have a similar diet. | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
Teeth brushing, we have done the same. But I think it is different | :54:00. | :54:06. | |
from child to child as to how their teeth are affected by it. Sam has a | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
sweet tooth and he likes sweet food, more than Emily. It is difficult, it | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
is finding things they can eat which are good for their diet but which | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
are not bad for their teeth. The teeth are at the back, did you see | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
what was going on? I had no idea. Not until the dentist showed me. I | :54:28. | :54:34. | |
was shocked and embarrassed when he showed me, that they were as bad as | :54:35. | :54:38. | |
they were, but it is difficult, you cannot see into the back, the top | :54:39. | :54:44. | |
teeth, very easily. I assumed they would look similar to the ones at | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
the bottom which you can see more easily, but they were bad and I was | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
surprised. He is waiting to have an operation gridlock to -- operation? | :54:53. | :55:05. | |
He is waiting to have two teeth out. You have got to make sure you are | :55:06. | :55:12. | |
brushing your child's teeth which we did, but when we allowed him to | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
brush 's own teeth, and the other thing is going to the dentist sooner | :55:17. | :55:23. | |
than we did. When we took Emily at a similar age there were no problems | :55:24. | :55:27. | |
and they said that was fine, come back in a period of time, but every | :55:28. | :55:33. | |
child is different and when we went for Sam's appointment things were | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
bad compared to when we took Emily. Professor, the number of kids having | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
teeth extracted is increasing. What are you seeing? The report is | :55:45. | :55:51. | |
emphasising the report reproduced on the faculty of dental surgery over | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
your ago. -- we produced. The alarming increase, 26,000 5-9 new | :55:57. | :56:09. | |
roles admitted for a disease which is 95% preventable, that is the | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
worst part of the situation ---year-olds. It is a similar story, | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
the teeth at the back? No it can vary tremendously. We feel sad about | :56:19. | :56:26. | |
Sam's situation, but we are talking about Sam losing two teeth, but we | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
do see children of his age who are needing to remove all 20s to -- 20 | :56:33. | :56:44. | |
teeth. What is going on, sugar is a factor? It is a combination of | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
factors and there is no magic wand, no one single factor will resolve | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
the problem. There are changes, there is fluoride in water which | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
there was not, going back sometime. You would think we have a better | :57:00. | :57:08. | |
chance of not having this now? Fluoridation in water is not across | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
the whole country, and there are areas which are not fluoridated. We | :57:14. | :57:20. | |
are coming down to a combination of diet, as we have mentioned, sugary | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
drinks and foods, and the frequency of taking those foods is so | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
important. We need better education. But there is also better techniques | :57:31. | :57:36. | |
for brushing and other help to improve oral health generally. If | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
you brush your teeth very welcome can you get away with eating more | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
sugary food? -- very well, can you get away. We are trying to avoid | :57:46. | :57:52. | |
eating between meals, sugary stacks, which I know is very difficult for | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
children. -- snacks. It is giving the mouth time to recover through | :57:59. | :58:01. | |
the natural defences that we have in the saliva between meals which is so | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
important, as well as the brushing using the appropriate level of | :58:09. | :58:11. | |
fluoride toothpaste which the dentist will advise on. We have got | :58:12. | :58:18. | |
to improve education and access to dentistry and also other | :58:19. | :58:20. | |
preventative methods like improving diet. The government's natural | :58:21. | :58:29. | |
obesity strategy which is supposedly being announced in the summer, | :58:30. | :58:33. | |
that's a golden to emphasise the importance of all health, sugar | :58:34. | :58:38. | |
intake, diet, and general body health. This has been a wake-up call | :58:39. | :58:45. | |
for you, Rachel. What are you changing? It is very difficult | :58:46. | :58:53. | |
because even things like fruit which Sam loves and is a great diet to | :58:54. | :59:01. | |
have, it is not so good for teeth. As he gets older it will be easier, | :59:02. | :59:04. | |
little children need to have small amounts to it and very often, and | :59:05. | :59:07. | |
trying to get the period of time when they are not eating can be | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
frustrating. As parents again finished dinner and within half an | :59:12. | :59:20. | |
hour they are hungry again. The dentist told me you should wait 30 | :59:21. | :59:23. | |
minutes after eating before you brush your teeth. I did not know | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
that. There are a few changes we have made and we will look at making | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
sure he tries to cut down on the Adam sugar that we have and the | :59:35. | :59:39. | |
drinks is a hard thing -- the amount of sugar. Children do not want to | :59:40. | :59:45. | |
drink water all the time, apple juice and fruit juice, smoothies, | :59:46. | :59:49. | |
they are not necessarily a great option for your teeth. It has been a | :59:50. | :00:00. | |
great thing to have you all with us, are you going back to score? Yes, | :00:01. | :00:01. | |
they are. -- school. Coming up - are women | :00:02. | :00:08. | |
in need of caesareans being denied them on the NHS | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
because of financial pressures? We'll be talking to the Royal | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
College of Midwives just after ten Many of you have been getting in | :00:13. | :00:20. | |
touch. Keep sending your thoughts and experiences and we will try to | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
bring your comments into our discussion later on. And now the | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
weather forecast. We have had a real mix of spring | :00:28. | :00:36. | |
weather this week, with some intense downpours and a little bit of | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
warmth. Also, some cold winds, too. Certainly today we have had some | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
interesting pictures from the weather watchers. This taken on the | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
Shetland Islands this morning. The colder weather not just confined to | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
the Northern Isles. It is going to be turning colder over the next | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
couple of days and we will really notice the change for the weekend. | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
This is a classic scene this morning, sent in by a viewer in | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
Gloucester. It is raining. And wet weather for many of us to content | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
with during the course of the day. Gradually as we go through tomorrow, | :01:16. | :01:22. | |
the rain will peter out. It is going to feel a lot colder. Here is the | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
big picture. One area of cloud from the south and another from the | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
north. Of bringing rain. The one in the North introducing much colder | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
air. Arctic air, and that is why we do have not just rain but also Snow, | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
particularly over the hills. That band of wet weather continuing to | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
push southwards. The rain in the South intensifying. Thunderstorms | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
across the south-east of the UK, Wales and South West England should | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
be a little drier and brighter. Sunshine developing across parts of | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
Scotland as the rain sinks southwards. There will be more | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
wintry showers, as I said, even at relatively low levels. For much of | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
the day, it will be more like three or four Celsius. Snow over the hills | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
in the afternoon, and wet weather for a time in Northern Ireland. The | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
West should get brightness. A dry morning in northern England, but | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
snow on the Pennines. In the south-east, a decent chance of some | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
sunshine. Still relatively mild across the South but turning colder | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
as we go through the night. That area of rain continues to pivot | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
round. More snow on the Pennines, and even at low levels we could see | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
a little bit of snow. A wintry feel. There will be a frost and the risk | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
of ice to start the weekend. Welcome to the programme | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
if you've just joined us. Concerns | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
are being raised that women are being pressured not to have | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
caesareans because of financial Now a senior coroner has warned that | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
lives are being put at risk. One mother who's baby died | :03:04. | :03:09. | |
when her pleas for a caesarean were ignored tells this | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
programme of her experience. It is scary because you trust them. | :03:13. | :03:25. | |
You are in hospital, so you are in a place where you think that they are | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
not going to let anything happen to me or my baby. That is what you feel | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
my and my consultant, I remember her saying, you need to trust us and we | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
will not let anything bad happened. I remember thinking, she's right, | :03:41. | :03:41. | |
why would they let anything happen? Mars Food, the brand behind Dolmio | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
and Uncle Ben's food sauces, are warning that we should only | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
consume some of their products once a week because they're so high | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
in salt, fat and sugar. We'll be speaking to | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
a nutritionist just after 10:30. And the vinyl revival continues | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
as sales reach a 20 year high, but how exactly are the records | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
made? We've been to the Czech | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
Republic to find out. Here's Rebecca Jones | :04:06. | :04:12. | |
in the BBC Newsroom Britain has agreed to work | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
with other major European countries Germany, France, Italy and Spain - | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
as well as the UK - will share information | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
on the secret owners The Chancellor, George Osborne | :04:30. | :04:30. | |
said the decision deals a "hammer blow" to those | :04:31. | :04:38. | |
who try to hide their wealth Here, a group of MPs is claiming | :04:39. | :04:40. | |
that tax evasion and criminal activity is costing the UK | :04:41. | :04:48. | |
?16 billion a year. The Public Accounts Committee says | :04:49. | :04:50. | |
tax officials at HMRC still aren't It wants a strategy put in place | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
by November to tackle the problem. But HMRC says that tracking down tax | :04:54. | :05:01. | |
evaders is an "absolute priority". A senior coroner has warned | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
of a risk of future deaths if the NHS favours vaginal delivery | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
over caesarean sections Andrew Walker intervened | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
after the death of a newborn baby, whose mother was denied | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
a planned caesarean. He said it made him fear that lives | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
were being put at risk. A man has been charged with | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
the attempted murder of a police woman after she was seriously | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
injured in an axe attack. The officer suffered multiple | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
injuries following the attack in Sheffield on Wednesday - | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
including a fractured skull and a broken leg, | :05:38. | :05:39. | |
and she lost a finger. Nathan Sumner, who's 35, | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
has also been charged The EU referendum campaign | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
formally begins today, with voters able to decide | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
whether the UK should stay in - Both campaigns will highlight | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
their core messages in a day The amount that they can spend | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
is now subject to strict rules. MP Gisela Stuart is backing | :06:03. | :06:11. | |
the Vote Leave Campaign and told us that a British exit | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
is the best option for the UK. People assuming that if we remain in | :06:15. | :06:26. | |
the European Union, the union itself will not change and that simply is | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
not true. Two things will happen, one is the introduction of a single | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
currency on mainland Europe and the creation of a free travel area, both | :06:36. | :06:43. | |
of those things we now realise do not work unless some very | :06:44. | :06:44. | |
significant changes happen. Rescue teams in Japan | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
are still searching for survivors after a powerful earthquake left | :06:52. | :06:53. | |
at least nine people dead Tens of thousands of people | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
fled their homes after the 6.5-magnitude quake struck | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
the south-western island of Kyushu Officials warned the death toll | :07:00. | :07:01. | |
could rise as rescuers search The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
are following in the footsteps of Prince Charles today as they trek | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
into the mountains of Bhutan. the Tiger's Nest monastery, | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
a journey completed by William's That's a summary of the latest BBC | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
News - more at 10.30. Thank you, Rebecca. See you later. | :07:22. | :07:38. | |
We have been getting lots of comments from you about tooth decay | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
following on from our discussion. Christina says, as a mother I am | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
appalled when I see toddlers sitting in supermarket trolleys eating | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
something sweet. Mothers who expose their babies to these kinds of food | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
should be prosecuted and forced to attend nutrition classes. Suites are | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
used to be treats for special occasions. Sugar is addictive and | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
exposing children to treats sets them up for a life of illness. The | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
urinary tract is damaged and fund I can -- fungus can invest the body. A | :08:11. | :08:18. | |
tweet from Robert, what is the government doing about reducing | :08:19. | :08:26. | |
sugar intake, sorry, what parents doing? Mark says, it is not just the | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
sugar, it is the acidity fizzy juice. Thank you for your comments. | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
use the hashtag VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
Let's catch up with the sport. Jessica, and another fantastic night | :08:42. | :08:53. | |
for Liverpool. Yes, good morning. Incredible last night to see the joy | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
and elation on the faces of those fans. | :08:58. | :08:59. | |
I imagine Liverpool fans are still be trying to catch | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
Extraordinary events at Anfield last night as Liverpool took | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
on Borussia Dortmund in the Europa League. | :09:06. | :09:06. | |
In the most dramatic of comebacks, Liverpool came from 2-nil down, | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
and then 3-1 down to stun Dortmund and reach the semi-finals. | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
Dortmund were the tournament favourites before this, | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
but Dejan Lovren's winning header in injury time gave them a 4-3 | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
victory on the night, and a 5-4 win on aggregate. | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
Really, that is the moment in football and in life | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Now, the World Snooker Championships begin tomorrow and I have six-time | :09:35. | :09:47. | |
champion Steve Davis with me to preview the tournament. | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
We are used to seeing you at the snooker table, winning titles, but | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
here is Steve as you have never seen before. | :09:58. | :10:09. | |
Something that does not sit along with his boring image was his taste | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
in music. It was radical, outrageous. Steve is an eccentric | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
character. The idea of playing music, playing snooker, playing | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
chess, that allowed him to get his medicine, or feed his soul. I have | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
never heard of any of these bands and after listening to some of them, | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
I did not want to hear any of these bands. Snooker can be quite intense | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
and I think by doing other stuff, it brings out some of your personality. | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
For anyone used to seeing you at the snooker table, what on earth was | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
that? You are a DJ? I have been doing our radio show in my local | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
area, Brentwood, for ten years. It is the complete opposite for me as a | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
snooker person. I do a weird and wonderful radio show. Very similar | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
to Stewart McAuley's freaks on. In that vein. | :11:02. | :11:13. | |
-- two. The BBC did a documentary on iPlayer. It was so much fun. Me, the | :11:14. | :11:21. | |
most boring snooker player, a DJ. You could not make it up. It is a | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
Jekyll and Hyde thing! As a snooker player, I have always been solid, | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
but as a DJ, I am more like Ronnie O'Sullivan. DJ Sunder muscle it is | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
not good. How did you get into DJ in? It is a passion for collecting | :11:42. | :11:49. | |
records. It is actually record store a day today. Vinyl records have made | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
a comeback and I am a bit of a collector. That is the sad part of | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
it. You enjoy the music you collect and it is part of your life to have | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
a record collection. Going down that road, if you are a bit of a face, it | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
leads you to having a radio show. We have you here to talk about snooker | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
so we will talk about snooker. The World Championships start tomorrow. | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
Exciting times for snooker fans. But that does not seem to be any | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
clear-cut winner this year. Stuart Bingham will be among the favourites | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
as always. Ronnie O'Sullivan also. I think the fact that there is not a | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
clear-cut winner is an improvement from last year, where Stuart Bingham | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
beat Shaun Murphy in the final. But I think the consensus of opinion, | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
among the players and punters, is that it is hard to oppose Ronnie | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
O'Sullivan. On his day, he is definitely head and shoulders, above | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
the opposition. Still. And that is at the age of 40, which is | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
astonishing. He is in great nick. The trouble is, it is over 17 days. | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
It goes through until bank holiday Monday and it is a long period of | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
time to keep the intensity up. Ronnie O'Sullivan, in the past, I am | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
not seeing his mind has wandered but it is difficult to keep it up for | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
that long. It is a bit like the Grand National. You do not know who | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
is going to win it in the first round, it is only towards the end, | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
the latter part of the second week, when the favourites starts to come | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
into form. And you do not know who those players are going to be, but | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
there are some cracking players. Neil Robertson, he is highly | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
favoured, and Ding Junhui eat, can he win? -- Ding Junhui. It is always | :13:33. | :13:43. | |
difficult to pick a winner. Taking it back to DJ in, when can we see | :13:44. | :13:50. | |
you out? Well, the film is out on iPlayer and then all of a sudden, we | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
just have to wait for the phone to ring. My snooker is obviously not | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
that good any more but my DJing skills are far better, better than | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
they used to be. We might see Steve in a club near us soon! | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
I had no idea that was what he was up to! | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
Are women in need of caesareans being denied them on the NHS, | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
That's the question raised by a senior coroner who's written | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
to the Health Secretary, highlighting the case of a baby | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
who died after his mother's pleas for a caesarean | :14:22. | :14:23. | |
As we've been hearing this morning, Kristian Jaworski was starved | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
of oxygen during a prolonged delivery last June when doctors | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
insisted on trying to pull him out with forceps rather | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
This comes as a human rights charity, Birthrights, | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
hosted a conference at the Royal College of Physicians, | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
claiming that women are being pressured not to have caesareans | :14:43. | :14:44. | |
as part of an NHS culture of 'policing pregnancy' and that | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
some mothers-to-be have to beg cost-cutting | :14:48. | :14:48. | |
Around 1 in 4 women will have a caesarean | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
The average cost of a c-section on the NHS is 3,781 | :14:54. | :15:02. | |
compared to a cost of 1,985 for a conventional delivery. | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
Earlier we heard from Tracey Taylor who lost her son Kristian Jaworski | :15:10. | :15:11. | |
after doctors ignored her pleas for a caesarean. | :15:12. | :15:19. | |
We had been told in the delivery suite that they would be trying | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
forceps but what we were not prepared for was the length | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
of time that they would be trying to pull him out. | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
There were a few times when they were pulling him quite | :15:36. | :15:48. | |
hard and they pulled me off the bed and they had | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
Pulled off the bed because of the force of the procedure? | :15:52. | :16:12. | |
I kept telling them I was tired and I could not push any more | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
but they kept on saying, just try once more, keep trying. | :16:20. | :16:21. | |
At one point I said to Bart and I can't do any more, | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
They kept saying to me, just try once more, and then at one | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
point one of doctors said, "It seems a shame to give her | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
a Caesarean as we've already cut her here". | :16:35. | :16:36. | |
Because I'd had an episiotomy as well. | :16:37. | :16:38. | |
Then it became frantic and they decided they were | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
The epidural hadn't worked and I felt them cutting me. | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
I do not remember anything from that point on. | :16:47. | :16:57. | |
With us in the studio is Elizabeth Prochaska, | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
from the charity Birthrights, which campaigns for women's human | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
rights in pregnancy, and says they should be free to opt | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
Louise Silverton, director for Midwifery at the Royal College | :17:09. | :17:16. | |
of Midwives, who says women should be persuaded against caesareans | :17:17. | :17:18. | |
And we have Laura Warner, who has written her experience about | :17:19. | :17:36. | |
childbirth on her blog. Louise, to be clear on the guidelines around | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
Caesarean sections, if you want one should be offered one? You can | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
request one, and the idea is that the CD health professionals will | :17:49. | :17:50. | |
consult a midwife and they will talk to the woman to understand her | :17:51. | :17:57. | |
reason for wanting a C section and to explain what can be done to | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
overcome what her fears are -- senior health professionals. If she | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
still wants one, the NHS should provide one. That is the right of | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
the woman, to demand one? That is right. You said I persuade women, | :18:12. | :18:18. | |
but I think they should have all the evidence and then should be able to | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
make their own decision. Elizabeth, you believe that Caesareans are not | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
always being offered because of financial considerations? That is | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
right. We hear from women on a regular basis that they are facing | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
obstruction from NHS trusts which have policy that they do not exceed | :18:35. | :18:43. | |
two women's requests for Caesarean sections, and they say they do not | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
follow the nice guidance and you will not be able to follow that | :18:49. | :18:55. | |
here. So women have requested one and they have not been offered one | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
because of financial constraints? Hospital policies will be influenced | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
by a range of factors and one of them is likely to be cast because | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
they are more expensive, Caesareans, than a traditional delivery -- cost. | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
It is no supplies that they have regard to the cost. -- it is no | :19:13. | :19:21. | |
surprise. Some women, they ask one, but when they discuss it, the they | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
had when they talk to someone with greater medical knowledge than most, | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
than most mothers, it persuade them otherwise? The first thing to | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
realise, any woman requesting a Caesarean section will have good | :19:38. | :19:39. | |
reasons, it is not because they are to posh to push, in the common | :19:40. | :19:47. | |
parlance, they will have a good reason, and the hope is when they | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
have the conversation with the midwife or doctor, it'd informed -- | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
it is an informed discussion and the woman is given the information they | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
need and she could make the final decision, not to be told they did | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
not just do that. You should be having that conversation at 30 | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
weeks, 32 weeks, not leaving it until you are up against the birth. | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
The phrase, to posh to push, is their dismissiveness amongst medical | :20:21. | :20:31. | |
people regarding women who want a C section? There is some of that, but | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
when the National audit was done in the early years of the century, it | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
was clear that very few of those women said it was maternal choice, | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
for no reason whatsoever. Many of these women have well founded fears, | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
maybe because of their previous birth which was traumatic, maybe | :20:53. | :20:54. | |
because of something else which has happened with their family history. | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
Services should listen to women. When it comes to persuading, you | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
said that you don't try to persuade women against Caesareans, but what | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
is your view? Should women be persuaded? Should every be listened | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
to? I would use the term in courage, because many women are fearful of | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
childbirth, and by explaining to them the support they can get during | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
birth and maybe showing them the birth centre as opposed to the | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
Labour wards, women can be encouraged to see how they get on, | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
but you cannot give any definite outcomes for any woman in any | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
particular birth. You might look the right kind of person who can have a | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
normal birth, but you might not. It is difficult, you cannot give that | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
certainty. Some people cannot cope with it. We are joined by Laura | :21:52. | :22:04. | |
Warner. You have two sons. Sadly between those perks, you suffered a | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
stillbirth and two miscarriages -- between those births. What were the | :22:11. | :22:20. | |
choices like? When I had Oscar I had an emergency Caesarean, after they | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
lost his heart trace, it had dipped, and after that it was traumatic. I | :22:24. | :22:33. | |
was going to have a read next time around, but when I went to have a | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
baby next time around, I left the delivery suite with nothing. I was | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
quite fearful to go back. Not fearful, but I did not want to go | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
back. The NHS were great at the hospital, they were outstanding, and | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
having the miscarriages, it was my last bit of control I had over my | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
pregnancy, that I could choose to have aces Aryan again. -- to have a | :23:01. | :23:08. | |
Caesarean again. That gave me some comfort. You were listened to? They | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
put me in at 16 weeks, I was lucky, they gave me the option that I could | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
change my mind if I went into Labour naturally. I could choose to go | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
naturally, it was up to me, they were fantastic. We have had an | :23:25. | :23:31. | |
e-mail from Gemma, a doctor working in general practice, she has worked | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
in obstetrics and gynaecology and she is aware it safe -- aware | :23:37. | :23:50. | |
patient safety is at risk. She says if 50% of women opted to have | :23:51. | :24:00. | |
Caesareans other parts of the NHS would suffer, she says. She says it | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
has got to be fair to all. 25% of birds have been C section according | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
to the statistics -- births. That includes emergency Caesarean is an | :24:15. | :24:22. | |
elective C sections, some of those can be on medical advice, and the | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
number of C sections which are requested by the woman against | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
medical advice are tiny. Maybe 1-2%, so we're not talking about a great | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
burden the NHS. In terms of costs, no one is suggesting a midwife or | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
doctor makes a clinical decision on a cost basis but those policies, the | :24:43. | :24:49. | |
hospital policies, I mentioned, they are taking cost into account. One | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
person has said on Twitter that Tracy's midwives should have | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
listened to her concerns. No couple should have to go through what they | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
have. Absolutely. I would have expected people to have asked in | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
this case, what we shall previous experience, why did it happen? -- | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
what was your previous experience. The midwife should be an advocate | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
for the woman. Is there resistance to Caesarean sections, financially | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
linked or not? You have got to remember, it is major surgery, if we | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
take the financial cost out of it, there is a significant health cost | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
to the woman and her family in recovering from birth, caring for a | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
newborn baby, whilst you have a scar and you are recovering from surgery. | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
What midwives tried to do, where women are able to do so and are | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
happy with that, is to encourage a natural birth because we know these | :25:51. | :25:58. | |
have quicker recovery. People have spoken about natural births and how | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
it went on and on and in the end it ended up in a C section. Is that | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
because there is a desire to hold back on the C section? Maybe it is | :26:08. | :26:14. | |
happening later than it should? I think about where the medical | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
situation indicates that the C section needs to be done quickly it | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
needs to be done within 30 minutes and it will be done within 30 | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
minutes. Where you are trying to determine, if the woman will | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
progress if you leave it another half an hour, our, and the woman is | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
happy to continue, you need to let physiology take its course, | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
especially with first pregnancies where it can take much longer. It is | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
important to give women a long enough chance to actually give birth | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
naturally, if they are able to do so. We know that it is the first | :26:50. | :26:56. | |
Caesarean section which then dictates the process of that woman's | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
future births going forward. How much weight should be given to a | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
mother's view? Mothers to be will go to classes and they will see birth | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
plans and they will have a view of how they want the ideal birth to be. | :27:15. | :27:22. | |
We are both smiling at that. I think trying to plan your birth is helpful | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
but it has to be realistic. Especially when you have never given | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
birth before, you might have all sorts of ideas as to how it will go, | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
none of which come to fruition. The birth plan needs to be it but like | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
this, but if not, and if not that, and then actually working it | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
through, and I think the lack of certainty is something some women | :27:45. | :27:46. | |
find difficult to cope with especially if they are feeling | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
frightened. Very important to remember, women are the | :27:52. | :27:53. | |
decision-makers in childbirth, as a matter of law because they have to | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
give consent to any medical procedure which is suggested to them | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
and that means they ultimately decide what happens to them in | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
childbirth. It might mean the birth plans not come to pass. Tracy wanted | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
a Caesarean and she was not allowed. Her decision should have been | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
respected, and that it would have been a much safer outcome for her | :28:18. | :28:23. | |
and her baby, we assume. Making sure women take the decisions in | :28:24. | :28:26. | |
childbirth makes sure you get good quality it safe maternal care and it | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
is very important that women are listened to. As you approach the | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
period when the woman is about to give birth, many women will say they | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
cannot go on, take the baby away, and that is actually because the | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
whole body is changing to be ready to give birth. That is when the | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
midwives offer additional encouragement, that it is going to | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
happen. You need to be aware of a woman saying that I want a Caesarean | :28:55. | :29:01. | |
section and this is why, because of the normal experience of what | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
happens when they are nearing birth, they think they have had enough, but | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
they have got to get going, and then the baby will be there soon, at | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
times. You have got to have a good trusting relationship with the | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
midwives and doctors, making sure that they are respecting the woman. | :29:17. | :29:23. | |
To all of you, thanks for joining us. | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
Well - you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise, | :29:28. | :29:29. | |
but officially the EU referendum campaign is only beginning today. | :29:30. | :29:31. | |
The 10-week period between now and June 23rd - | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
when the vote takes place - is the formal campaign period | :29:35. | :29:36. | |
where legal restrictions on campaign spending will apply. | :29:37. | :29:38. | |
Let's go to Iain Watson at Westminster. | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
What difference does it make? It will make some difference, they have | :29:43. | :29:50. | |
jumped the gun, it feels we are in the middle of the campaign, but now | :29:51. | :29:58. | |
we have two designated campaigns, Britain stronger in and Vote Leave. | :29:59. | :30:12. | |
Nigel Farage's campaign lost and the campaign featuring the cabinet | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
ministers, that has won, they now get ?7 million to spend between now | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
and the 23rd of June. There are also rules regarding fair access to | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
airtime and to communicate their message to the wider public. | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
Political parties will also be able to spend, but limits will apply to | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
them, and I think Ukip have around formalin pounds to convince -- ?4 | :30:37. | :30:44. | |
million to try and convince us to leave and Labour have around 5.5 | :30:45. | :30:51. | |
million to convince us to remain. The kind of tone that will be used | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
for the next ten weeks, that would be interesting, Alistair Darling, | :30:55. | :31:03. | |
former Chancellor, he is going to say that storm clouds are gathering | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
and it looks like there is uncertainty and this is a risk, to | :31:07. | :31:13. | |
leave the EU, and it will be a blow to the British economy and to its | :31:14. | :31:15. | |
reputation and international standing. On the other side, there | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
will be a Brexit blitz, Boris Johnson and others will be bombing | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
around the country, and they will be saying that the money that is going | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
to the EU will be better spent on the NHS, they say that is a positive | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
message. They are not against negative campaigning either, but | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
that will be the dividing line we will see between now and the 23rd of | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
June. But right now, the clock is ticking and people will be watching | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
to see how they spend the money between now and polling day. Thanks | :31:50. | :31:51. | |
for joining us. Still to come, a warning from a | :31:52. | :32:02. | |
leading food manufacturer who says their products should not be eaten | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
every day. Vinyl is back, we will be in the Czech Republic to find out | :32:10. | :32:11. | |
how records are made. Britain has agreed to work | :32:12. | :32:20. | |
with other major European countries Germany, France, Italy and Spain - | :32:21. | :32:22. | |
as well as the UK - will share information on the secret | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
owners of companies and trusts. The Chancellor, George Osborne, said | :32:27. | :32:34. | |
the decision deals a "hammer blow" to those who try to hide their | :32:35. | :32:36. | |
wealth in financial dark corners. Here, a group of MPs is claiming | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
that tax evasion and criminal activity is costing the UK | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
?16 billion a year. The Public Accounts Committee says | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
tax officials at HMRC still aren't It wants a strategy put in place | :32:49. | :32:50. | |
by November to tackle the problem. But HMRC says that tracking down tax | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
evaders is an "absolute priority". A senior coroner has warned | :32:57. | :33:04. | |
of a risk of future deaths if the NHS favours vaginal delivery | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
over caesarean sections Andrew Walker wrote to ministers | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
after the death of a newborn baby at a north London hospital whose | :33:10. | :33:15. | |
mother was denied a planned He said it made him fear that lives | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
were being put at risk. A man has been charged with | :33:19. | :33:25. | |
the attempted murder of a police woman after she was seriously | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
injured in an axe attack. The officer suffered multiple | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
injuries following the attack in Sheffield on Wednesday - | :33:32. | :33:33. | |
including a fractured skull and a broken leg, | :33:34. | :33:35. | |
and she lost a finger. Nathan Sumner, who's 35, | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
has also been charged The EU referendum campaign | :33:41. | :33:42. | |
formally begins today, with voters able to decide | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
whether the UK should stay in Both campaigns will highlight | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
their core messages in a day The amount that they can spend | :33:53. | :33:59. | |
is now subject to strict rules. Rescue teams in Japan | :34:00. | :34:12. | |
are still searching for survivors after a powerful earthquake left | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
at least nine people dead Tens of thousands of people | :34:16. | :34:17. | |
fled their homes after the 6.5-magnitude quake struck | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
the south-western island of Kyushu Officials warned the death toll | :34:21. | :34:22. | |
could rise as rescuers search The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
are following in the footsteps of Prince Charles today as they trek | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
into the mountains of Bhutan. It's a walk and climb that will take | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
the royal couple up to six hours to reach the historic | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
Tiger's Nest monastery, a journey completed by William's | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
father back in 1988. That's a summary of the latest news, | :34:42. | :34:52. | |
join me for BBC Newsroom And thank you. Let's catch up with | :34:53. | :35:06. | |
the sport. The very latest from Jessica. Hello again. | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
The newspaper back pages are calling it a miracle. | :35:10. | :35:11. | |
Liverpool staged one of the most dramatic comebacks in the club's | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
history last night, as they came from 2-nil down, | :35:15. | :35:16. | |
and then 3-1 down to beat Borussia Dortmund 4-3 on the night, | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
5-4 on aggregate, and go through to the semi-finals | :35:20. | :35:21. | |
Fernando Alonso has been cleared to race in the Chinese Grand Prix, | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
The Spaniard had to sit out the Bahrain Grand Prix two weeks | :35:26. | :35:30. | |
ago, but doctors gave him the go-ahead for this weekend | :35:31. | :35:32. | |
after he came through first practice in Shanghai. | :35:33. | :35:39. | |
World number two Andy Murray is on court now in the quarter | :35:40. | :35:42. | |
He's currently a break up in the opening set | :35:43. | :35:47. | |
And Commonwealth champions Jazz Carlin and Fran Halsall | :35:48. | :35:56. | |
missed out on automatic Olympic qualification at the British | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
Carlin won the 800 metre freestyle, and Halsall the 50 metres free, | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
but both failed to get the required time for a spot in Rio. | :36:06. | :36:08. | |
That is all the sport for this morning. Great stuff, thank you very | :36:09. | :36:16. | |
much, Jess. Wildlife experts have come up with a plan to reintroduce | :36:17. | :36:23. | |
Tigers to some part of the world where their populations are very | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
low. Ministers hope that it will help to increase the population. | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
Sally Davis is from a charity that works for the survival of endangered | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
animals in the world. Thank you for joining us. How will this work? Good | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
morning. It is an interesting proposal and I think that we are | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
very glad that Tigers are being discussed at this level. Often they | :36:47. | :36:53. | |
are the poor relation in terms of endangered wildlife. Elephants get a | :36:54. | :37:00. | |
lot of the world's attention, but wild tigers are teetering around | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
3000. Unfortunately, some of the proposals are perhaps misguided and | :37:05. | :37:11. | |
miss times. What we really need is a full-scale investment into new Tiger | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
habitats. Simply reintroducing them to places where the habitats have | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
not been strong enough and managed well enough, where wildlife crime | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
and wildlife trade has been rife, and driven populations to | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
extinction, if we put animals back in those places, the same thing will | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
happen again. What is the evidence that those issues will be addressed | :37:32. | :37:35. | |
when the Tigers are moved to those places, potentially? That is the | :37:36. | :37:40. | |
worry at the moment and we're not sure what that is. There are some | :37:41. | :37:49. | |
initiatives going on around the world, and countries such as India | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
and Thailand need to be commended but it is not enough. Tiger | :37:54. | :37:56. | |
populations teeter on the brink in some of these countries and we need | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
greater commitment to some of these issues, such as habitat and tiger | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
trade. So if there is no guarantee, that changes will be made, | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
potentially Tigers should not be moved, because it could worsen | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
problems? I think that is absolutely right. At best it is a waste of | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
resources and detrimental to the tigers involved. We need to get | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
habitat protection right first. Tiger stepping stones and corridors | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
are very important otherwise these communities will shrink every time | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
there is urbanisation of an area and destinations of forests. Healthy | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
tigers mean healthy forests and healthy forests healthy planet. We | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
need to investigate these habitat structure is first of all. There is | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
no point in putting tigers back into a place where the population is | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
close to being wiped out without doing more than is currently being | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
done. What are the figures on tiger population? You say that there has | :38:54. | :38:59. | |
been a recovery recently? The news from the end of last week about | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
tiger populations is encouraging. We traditionally worked on a figure of | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
around 3000 or 3200 left in the wild. Recent data suggest that is | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
nearer 3800. It is very difficult to know. Tigers are animals that move | :39:15. | :39:23. | |
and are difficult to count. But also some of these countries do not have | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
the resources to undertake accurate population counts. Some of the | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
countries have gone from loose estimates to a count and sometimes | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
from a counter to a loose estimate, so we take figures with scepticism. | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
Anything is good but we are talking about an overall global population | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
of less than 4000 for a species in the wild, which is a damning | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
indictment on one man has done to tiger habitats. Celebrating these | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
tiny increases is really quite a sad situation to be in. It is good that | :39:53. | :40:00. | |
it is moving in the right direction but this is a tiny population that | :40:01. | :40:02. | |
needs all the resources and attention we can give it. Thank you | :40:03. | :40:04. | |
very much. We're being told to cut back | :40:05. | :40:05. | |
on eating some Dolmio and Uncle Ben's food sauces | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
because they are so high Mars Food, which owns the brands, | :40:09. | :40:10. | |
says some products should only be consumed once a week | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
rather than a daily basis. The company also plans to cut | :40:15. | :40:16. | |
the salt content of its products Campaigners have welcomed the move | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
but say the Government must do more to ensure labelling is adopted | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
across the industry. Joining me now is Tam Fry, | :40:24. | :40:26. | |
from the National Obesity Forum, and nutritionist Jenny Rosborough | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
from the campaign Also joining us from Central London, | :40:32. | :40:33. | |
Harry Wallop, who is a consumer And from our Westminster studio, | :40:34. | :40:41. | |
Andrew Opie - he is the director of food policy | :40:42. | :40:44. | |
at the British Retail Consortium. Thank you very much all of you for | :40:45. | :40:54. | |
joining us. It is unusual, isn't it, when a company says don't consume | :40:55. | :41:01. | |
something we are making more than once a week? Very unusual but very | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
imaginative. I think it started the move towards all companies working | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
this way. They have done a lot in terms of health and well-being over | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
the last few years but this is the first time that they have done it in | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
this case. I welcome it immensely. Andrew, what are the considerations | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
and pressures on companies to do something like this? There are | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
pressures because although the consumers who come into our shops, | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
they have healthy food on their mind and healthy diet on their mind. They | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
are thinking about the family when they are shopping. Therefore, it is | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
an important thing. That is why retailers have taken such a huge | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
step over the last decade in terms of formulating products, taking the | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
salt and sugar out, and also clear labelling. Major retailers, they | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
were the first to get behind the government's front of pack labelling | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
scheme launched a few years ago. Let's take a look at some of the | :42:00. | :42:01. | |
products that will be affected. Dolmio Original | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
tomato Lasagne sauce. Mars are advising customers to only | :42:07. | :42:07. | |
consume once a week rather Each 500g jar of lasagne | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
sauce like this one It also contains 32 grams of sugar | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
and 4 grams of salt. Mars is also cutting the level | :42:15. | :42:23. | |
of sugar in some of its products. One of those affected by that change | :42:24. | :42:30. | |
is Uncle Ben's Rice Time Sweet and Each 450g jar like this one contains | :42:31. | :42:37. | |
0.36 grams of fat. It also contains over 32 grams | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
of sugar and 1.69 grams of salt. Henry, are the manufacturers being | :42:42. | :42:54. | |
responsible here? Yes, they are. I think it is a brave decision. They | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
are flagging up that some of their products, which people use on a | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
daily basis, one of the sources affected is pesto. A lot of parents | :43:05. | :43:11. | |
will feed their children pesto more than once a week. Another parent | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
said that is a reason to feel guilty about the food that they feed their | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
children. It is a strange decision by Mars. Possibly they will look | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
very clever in a few years when they can say that they moved first before | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
they were pushed when legislation comes in. It is focusing thoughts, | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
Jenny, on the number of times we should be eating products like | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
certain pasta sauces. What do you think about that? It is great that | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
they are raising awareness but the challenge is that only the | :43:44. | :43:45. | |
health-conscious will look at the labels in the first place, so it | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
will not necessarily hit the people who needed them most. As Andrew was | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
saying, we really need these targets to continue to reduce the sugar, | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
salt and fat in a product. Ideally, you want them to be regulated | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
because without that, manufacturers and retailers are moving quicker | :44:04. | :44:06. | |
than some others, so it is not fair on them. We need regular ones that | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
they can move towards together. It begs the question, while an labels | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
not put on a wider range of products, particularly sweet ones? | :44:17. | :44:25. | |
You have a problem with labelling, because it is in the purview of the | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
European Community. There is legislation where they have to | :44:29. | :44:31. | |
follow a particular pattern. It is expensive to change labelling and | :44:32. | :44:38. | |
that is why Mars have gone one leap ahead to put this additional | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
information on. What you have to do is to see a complete revolution in | :44:42. | :44:45. | |
labelling so that the purchaser has a clear idea of what is inside. All | :44:46. | :44:52. | |
of the focus on labelling and what manufacturers are doing, does it | :44:53. | :44:55. | |
take away from individual responsibility? In the end, the | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
individual is totally responsible for what he or she consumes. But | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
they can only do that on an informed choice and at the moment, the | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
information is very sketchy. Anything that can be done to allow | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
the purchaser to have a much better idea of what they are ticking off | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
the they put occasional, it means occasional. It is a once a week | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
operation. If it is every day, the purchaser knows that there is | :45:24. | :45:26. | |
certainly stuff in there which should not be over consumed, but it | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
can be consumed quite safely on a daily basis. | :45:32. | :45:33. | |
The consumer can only work with what they have got, parents are busy, and | :45:34. | :45:44. | |
they are buying the pre-packaged tough at times and that is why we | :45:45. | :45:50. | |
need to work at the new formulations, reducing the unhealthy | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
elements of each product. The companies said they are changing | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
some products, but others won't be, they say the reason they are not | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
changing those recipes is to maintain the authentic nature of | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
them. Are those products not dissimilar to what people would be | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
producing with home cooking? Do we need to be looking at every aspect? | :46:11. | :46:16. | |
We do. We have more control over salt and sugar, when we are doing | :46:17. | :46:22. | |
that at home, 75% of the salt we consume is in packaged stuff, not | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
what we are making at home, we do not have an issue with that. Really, | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
I think we need more regulation around the amount they can put in | :46:33. | :46:35. | |
their product in the first place, although they want to keep the | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
recipes, we want people's taste preferences to change, to get used | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
to less salt and Schiller, but if they still have those ones on the | :46:46. | :46:48. | |
market, that will not happen, if they are the most popular one | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
stashed less salt and sugar. How much blame to you put on the | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
manufacturers for changing our taste buds? They have been quite | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
responsible with salt, in the last ten years, the sliced bread we have | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
has significant less salt, 20%, than we had growing up, but these changes | :47:10. | :47:15. | |
are long time to reformulate and for consumers not to complain. Most | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
companies are fighting to be, who is the most responsible, not who is | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
making the tastiest food question not that seems to be forgotten, and | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
so I welcome the fact that Mars are refusing to change the recipe on a | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
few of their products, because basically they are saying it will | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
not taste very nice. Pesto sauce without the olive oil is not very | :47:40. | :47:44. | |
nice. We have got to take the responsibility ourselves and choose | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
wisely. Yes, this is extra information, but it is slightly | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
preaching to the converted and people who already food labels. With | :47:53. | :47:58. | |
a company like Mars, you think about the other products that are being | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
produced, do the companies need to be more explicit regarding labels on | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
sweet products about how they should be consumed? Our companies are, they | :48:09. | :48:18. | |
put the labels on the front of the packets. They do not say how often? | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
The purpose of the traffic light system is to make people stop and | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
think about their consumption and it does the job it was intended to do. | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
The other thing we have not spoken about, it is not all about | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
reformulation, you are right about taste, people have got to want to | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
buy the product. You can also look at portion size, it is not | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
necessarily about changing the formulation, but maybe presenting it | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
in a way which is in a smaller portion that it has been previously. | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
And much responsibility to the manufacturers need to take full | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
portion size and the levels of salt and sugar that we have got used to? | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
It is important and our members have been working on this for a number of | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
years, we know customers want to do the right thing and anything we can | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
do to help them to do that is what we want to do because that reflects | :49:14. | :49:16. | |
well on the brand and it means customers will want to continue to | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
shop with them. How much responsibility do you put on | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
manufacturers for the obesity levels? Considerable responsibility, | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
but the greater responsibility has to be shown by the government | :49:31. | :49:32. | |
because they create the playing field from which we play. If the | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
food industry and the drinks industry are not regulated, they are | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
free to go and do their own thing and that is what has happened in the | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
past. We bring in the sugar levy, that will help the whole process, of | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
companies being more responsible, understanding that to have surgery | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
grams of sugar in a jar is too much by far. -- to have 38 grams. They | :50:03. | :50:11. | |
need to have a push, though. The sugar levy is quite limited in its | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
application, how much difference will that make? It is starting with | :50:15. | :50:20. | |
the sugary drinks, purely because it is easier to take the sugar out of | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
sugary drinks and they contain lower nutritional value. So we are not | :50:26. | :50:31. | |
losing that. The evidence is full sugary drinks in terms of relating | :50:32. | :50:40. | |
to increased risk of weight gain and diabetes, and so they are starting | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
with a good thing, but they are encouraging the manufacturer to | :50:44. | :50:49. | |
reduce their sugar and have better tax, and so they have got time to do | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
that. To all of you, thanks for joining us. | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
It was a day created to revive dwindling independent record sales, | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
Ahead of tomorrow's Record Store Day, the boss of one | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
of the world's biggest vinyl producing factories says the event | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
has become less important than it once was. | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
However, eight years after it launched in the US, Michal Sterba | :51:12. | :51:14. | |
of GZ Media says it is a brilliant celebration of the format. | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
UK vinyl sales reached a 21-year high last year, helping | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
But how exactly is a vinyl record made? | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
Radio 1 Newsbeat's Steve Holden went to meet Michal at his factory | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
This is the sleepy village of Lodenice in the heart | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
It is also home to one of the world's largest vinyl | :51:36. | :51:40. | |
In the early 90s, production slowed to around 300,000 | :51:41. | :51:49. | |
But then the come back happened and last year it | :51:50. | :52:03. | |
This is the boss and he gave us special access to his factory | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
and he showed us exactly how a vinyl is made. | :52:08. | :52:20. | |
We cut the music, the groove is cut into the copper plate. | :52:21. | :52:23. | |
The music is transferred via a diamond stylus | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
Approximately one hour for one title. | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
Two sides, but a lot of preparation time as well. | :52:34. | :52:46. | |
In a different part of the factory, workers make stampers. | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
They are the discs which a vinyl record is mass produced from. | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
Several stampers are made from one master. | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
It involves taking the copperplate, the vinyl master, from | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
A layer of nickel has formed on it that is then separated, | :53:02. | :53:09. | |
washed and then dried before being sent to the presses. | :53:10. | :53:17. | |
What is going on here, it looks busy? | :53:18. | :53:19. | |
It is where every single record is manufactured. | :53:20. | :53:26. | |
Some of these machines have been here for decades? | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
Some of them are 40 years old, basically, and some are brand-new. | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
In 2016, there is so much new technology, there is something | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
very old-fashioned about having old machinery making a product | :53:42. | :53:43. | |
It is still the old technology which is based on the same | :53:44. | :53:51. | |
There are far fewer machines here, just lots of careful hands. | :53:52. | :54:02. | |
Each record is packaged individually, one by one. | :54:03. | :54:10. | |
2000 employees across the factory producing 65,000 records per day. | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
Everything from new releases to old classics. | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
Radio 1 Newsbeat's Steve Holden reporting there. | :54:19. | :54:21. | |
Now, watch this amazingly cute video of an orangutan | :54:22. | :54:24. | |
who met her baby for the first time since they were separated | :54:25. | :54:26. | |
The offspring was delivered by Caesarean section, | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
so the mother had to recuperate away from her baby for 11 days. | :54:31. | :54:36. | |
Isn't that gorgeous? You have been getting in touch. Many comments. | :54:37. | :56:01. | |
These are some on the subject of cleaning teeth. And the increase in | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
the number children having teed surgically removed because decay. | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
Robin says, even rinsing your teeth after easing or drinking or eating | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
sweets is a big help. Another one says you cannot talk about this | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
without asking parents why they have let this happen to their children? | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
Another one says, this is a legacy of the lack of NHS dentists and not | :56:28. | :56:33. | |
just access sugar. Can parents access regular dental care? Another | :56:34. | :56:42. | |
one says they are in their 50s and they have had a few problems, but | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
they have given up sweets. They use lemon slices and a small amount of | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
the Jews in the water to flavour their drinks, | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
another one, "I remember a group of mothers complaining about Ribena". | :56:56. | :57:12. | |
She says these women had given Ribena to their children, causing | :57:13. | :57:20. | |
their front teeth to rot. She says, do people never learn? Sarah has | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
said, she went for an induction on Monday morning and she has two wombs | :57:26. | :57:36. | |
and she was pressured to take a natural birth, despite knowing the | :57:37. | :57:41. | |
complications, and after two failed inductions she was told on Wednesday | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
she would have a C section but then she was put on a hormonal drip | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
instead. We have had many comments on Caesarean sections. We appreciate | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
everything, we do read everything, although we cannot read it all out | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
on air. We appreciate your contribution. It is great to hear | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
from you. You can keep in touch any time through social media. To find | :58:09. | :58:14. | |
us on Facebook, search Victoria Gulliksen. Text messages will be | :58:15. | :58:22. | |
sent at the standard rate -- Victoria Derbyshire. I will see you | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
soon. Thanks for your company. | :58:27. | :58:32. |