07/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello - it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

We will be speaking to relatives of service personnel who died in the

Iraq war. Speaking in the past hour, Tony Blair has continued to justify

his backing of the invasion. What is true, and I completely accept it, is

that we were giving the United States a very clear commit went that

we were a goal of the alongside them in dealing with this issue. How we

dealt with it is another matter. Thousands protest overnight

in Louisiana where a black man - Alton Sterling - was shot dead

by two white police officers. Here is his widow. The individuals

involved in his murder took away a man with children, who depended upon

their daddy on a daily basis. And overnight footage apparently

of another killing by police - still unverified, of another killing

by police - It is all quiet here in Lyon, but

Wales leave the tournament with their heads held high. They dared to

dream, and that philosophy took them all the way to the semifinals.

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Tony Blair has been trying again to defend

his actions in the run-up to the Iraq war.

Sir John Chilcot's report yesterday delivered a scathing critique

of the planning of the war and its aftermath.

This morning, senior figures involved in the decision to take

Britain to war have responded by suggesting it underplayed

the role of the United States in pushing for military action.

And some families say they're considering legal action.

It was a conflict in which 179 British soldiers died.

Now, the enquiry into the Iraq war says they were sent

in ill-prepared and underequipped, and that Tony Blair,

the then Prime Minister, had taken the UK to war before

Those are painful conclusions for the bereaved relatives to hear.

I've gone back to that time when I learnt that my brother had

been killed, and there was one terrorist in this world

He can't walk away from all this with that blood on his hands,

The Chilcot report found that Tony Blair had overstated the threat

posed by Saddam Hussein, that there was no imminent threat

and the intelligence case for war was not justified.

Lawyers for the families of the service personnel

who died say they will now consider legal action.

Tony Blair stood by his decision to go to war,

For all of this, I express more sorrow, regret

and apology then you may ever know or could believe.

The invasion in 2003 was led by the United States,

Senior figures involved in that decision suggested the Chilcot

report underplayed the role of the US in pushing

The Americans weren't genuine about it, but the Prime Minister

WAS genuine, because he thought there was a chance that

Saddam could be made to back down before

For a while, George Bush agreed with him.

But others behind George Bush didn't, and thought

During and after the conflict, more than 150,000 Iraqis were killed.

Just this weekend, at least 250 died in a suicide bomb attack in Baghdad,

a reminder that 13 years on, Iraq remains unstable and its people

the last hour, Mr Blair has conceded that it would have been better to

challenge the intelligence reports, described as flawed by the inquiry.

But he insisted there was not a doubt in most people's minds that

the Iraqi leader had the capability for weapons of mass destruction. He

said he tried to persuade the US to go down a different route. If they

go back to the United Nations and get a resolution there, that of

course postpones military action, which was my purpose, and gives us a

chance to pursue this peacefully. You will find elsewhere in the

evidence that after the November resolution was passed, was a

conversation where President Bush accepted explicitly that if there

was compliance with 1441, there would not be military action. I

understand exactly what you're saying. You can take these phrases

and debate what they mean. But I can assure you, what I meant was very,

very clear, and was clear to the Americans have - I am right

alongside you in dealing with this, but it has to be done the right way.

It has to be done through the United Nations.

Now, a summary of the rest of the days news.

Conservative MPs vote again today on who they want to be the next

There are three candidates left in the race.

In the first vote the Home Secretary Theresa May finished

well ahead, followed by Andrea Leadsom and Michael Gove.

The final two with the most votes will then have to win

the support of 150,000 Conservative party members.

The result is due on September 9th, but some MPs want

Hundreds of people have taken part in a vigil in the American state

of Louisiana, where a black man was shot dead by two white police

Video footage has been published online appearing to show 37-year-

old Alton Sterling being held down and shot, outside a convenience

This is the second graphic video to emerge of the shooting.

Alton Sterling is already on the ground as

There is swearing as the officers move away.

And they remove something, perhaps a weapon, from his pocket.

The 37-year-old has a string of offences, and police say

they were responding to reports that he

But his family and friends say he was

And this is another example of white police brutality on the black

He is not what the mass media is making him out to be.

It is an attempt to try and obscure the

image of a man who simply tried to earn a living.

The two officers involved have been placed on

Their actions will be the subject of a civil

Protesters gathered in their thousands on the

They shouted their message, but the anger

Many have no hope that justice will be served.

We are not anti-police, we are anti-injustice.

That is what we have been getting here - injustice.

And as the protest went on, they danced out their

Their song was "Free the people", determined to put on a peaceful show

This is not just about one man, it's not just about one incident.

People here distrust the authorities and distrust the

They feel this is a battle for their civil rights, and one

There's been another shooting in America in which a black man has

been shot dead by police in confused circumstances.

The latest incident took place in the city of Minneapolis.

The latest incident took place in Minnesota.

MPs have expressed significant concerns about the government's

preferred candidate for the next head of the schools regulator,

The Education Select Committee has questioned

Amanda Spielman's passion for the job, and understanding

But the Education Secretary, Nicky Morgan, says Ms Spielman remains

She currently chairperson of the exams regulator. Sir Michael Wilshaw

steps down as head of Ofsted at the end of the year. There will be a new

regulator for charity fundraisers, as of today. It is intended to help

restore public faith in the sect following complaints about how some

charitable organisations raise money. Michael Buchanan reports.

Following the death of 92-year-old Olive Cooke, there were concerns

about how some charities were targeting donors. A committee of MPs

found a number of charities were using unethical and exploit a dip

method is to raise money, including buying and selling the personal

details of donors. Today's creation of a new fundraising regulator is an

attempt to improve standards. The idea is that a separate body can be

a bit distance from both the fundraising community on one side,

and have the ability to raise and handle complaints on the other. We

will be independent and very open to receive complaints from the public.

We hope to have a good process in place to respond to those concerns,

and to do it well. Charity fundraising is hugely competitive.

Last year, ?9.6 billion was raised, slightly down on the previous year.

The average donation was ?14 a month. But all of that money spread

between 190,000 different groups. With public spending cuts, charities

are being asked to do more, with less. This new self-regulating body

is a chance for charities to show respect to their donors and rebuild

trust with the wider public. Marks and Spencer says it

experienced an eight point nine percent fall in clothing sales,

in the first quarter The retailer said the slump,

in the three months to the start of July,

was worse than expected,. to the start of July,

was worse than expected. It suggested consumer confidence

weakened in the run up It suggested consumer confidence

weakened in the run-up Five newborn lion cubs have been

discovered in the mountains surrounding Los Angeles. This

footage is was captured last month by the Us National Park Service, who

had been tracking their mothers. They had been following them using

GPS from collars attached to the Cubs' mothers.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

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And the epic Wales adventure comes to an end, such a shame! And hasn't

it been an adventure? I feel like we have travelled with them through

this tournament, as they have grown and surprised everybody. They did

not seem to surprise themselves, however. There was an inner

confidence about this team. If they were nervous, they did not really

show it, perhaps until the first half last night. They were looking

very, very strong at the back, but times I think you could tell that

the nerves were creeping in. And their dream was ended by a moment of

brilliance from Cristiani Ronaldo. Let's look back on it now with Drew

Savage. The Welsh strength and togetherness

and passion had carried them this far. But it was not quite enough to

take them to Paris. They need to understand that they have done their

country proud. The match had been billed as Cristiano Ronaldo versus

Gareth Bale. Shortly after the break, the Portuguese struck. A

greatly forward for Portugal, and just three minutes later, followed

by a sucker punch from a seemingly innocuous shot from Ronaldo. Quick

thinking from the former Manchester United man Nani, and Wales were in

trouble. Wayne Hennessey just about kept it down to two. Without Aaron

Ramsey, Gareth Bale had to try and do it on his own. But a Welsh

comeback was a long shot, even beyond his substantial talents.

Portugal and Ronaldo are on their way to Paris. Wales' tournament of a

lifetime ends in Lyon. The great and good of Welsh sport have all had

their say on last night. Rugby union captain Sam Warburton treated -

Welcome cyclist Geraint Thomas and says... -- Welsh cyclist.

That is a mood that is echoed everywhere this morning. Of course,

it was a busy night of sport last night. Lots of people at home were

probably channel hopping between the football and Andy Murray's epic five

set match against Jo-Wilfried Tsonga at Wimbledon. Murray says he had to

summon up all of his energy to win that game and overcome Tsonga's

fightback in their quarterfinal. Murray took the final set off a

thrilling match 6-1 after Tsonga had battled back to level from two sets

down. The world number two plays Tomas Berdych in the semis tomorrow.

Obviously, it was a tough match. The end of that fourth set was really

tough, losing the game after breaking and coming back from 40-0

in that game, to lose the set 6-4 was hard. But I tried to use all my

energy at the beginning of the fifth set to get myself up and try and get

the crowd pumped up. It had been a long day for them, some long

matches. Thankfully, I got the early break and managed to hang onto it.

Obviously, Andy Murray still has work to do. That Wimbledon final is

on Friday. Will he be there? But as far as the Welsh football team are

concerned, I am sure they will get quite a welcome when they eventually

get home. Victoria. I think they will! More from Sally

later. This time yesterday,

relatives of the 179 British personnel who died in the 2003 Iraq

war were waiting for the publication of Sir John Chilcot's long awaited

report into the conflict. Some of them had already been

allowed early access to the many volumes of text,

searching for the answers they'd They learnt what many of them had

long believed, that Tony Blair overstated the threat posed by Iraqi

dictator Saddam Hussein, sent ill-prepared troops

into battle and failed to put in place an adequate,

long-term strategy for the region. It was a damning verdict on the UK's

role in the 2003 invasion. When Sir John Chilcot delivered

an overview of his report into the lessons to be learned

from the Iraq war, he criticised almost every part

of the UK's involvement: The reasons it began,

the intelligence provided We have concluded that the UK chose

to join the invasion of Iraq before

the peaceful options for disarmament Military action at that time

was not a last resort. The judgments about the severity

of the threat posed by Iraq's

weapons of mass destruction, WMD, were presented with a certainty

that was not justified. It is now clear that policy on Iraq

was made on the basis of flawed The planning and preparations

for Iraq after Saddam Hussein Outside, protesters called

for former Prime Minister Tony Blair to face charges, while family

members of British service personnel that died in the war

expressed their own views. I've gone back to that time

when I learned that my brother had been killed, and there is one

terrorist in the world that the world needs to be aware of,

and his name is Tony Blair, By lunchtime, Prime Minister David

Cameron had warned that the report should not deter Parliament

from voting to invade countries in the future,

so long as there was Just because intervention

is difficult, it doesn't

mean there are not times Yes, Britain has and will continue

to learn the lessons of this report, against Daesh in Iraq and Syria

today, Britain must not and will not shrink from its role on the world

stage or fail to protect its people. emphasised his view that public

protests before the war The tragedy is that

while the governing class got it so horrifically wrong, many of our

people actually got it right. Many, on February 15th, 2003,

1.5 million, spanning

the entire political spectrum, and millions of others

across the world marched the biggest ever demonstration

in British history. Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair's

former director of communications, however, said he and the former

Prime Minister had not looked to dupe the public over the threat

posed by the former Iraqi I think actually, we can lay to rest

a lot of the allegations Sir John does recognise that

Tony Blair was trying to influence the Americans and did have some

success in that. admitted there was a lack of a

long-term strategy for the region, and said he was sorry for any

mistakes he had made. The mistakes on planning and

process, I absolutely acknowledge. I'm not passing responsibility

to someone else. I accept full responsibility

for those mistakes. I can look not just the families

of this country, but the nation in the eye and say I did not

mislead this country. I made a decision in good faith

on the information believe he should face

consequences for his actions, including the Scottish First

Minister Nicola Sturgeon. There has to be some

sense of accountability, that we can't simply have a case

of politicians who took these decisions on the flawed basis

that this report now outlines given that the consequences of

the Iraqi war are still being felt. Peter Brierley lost his son,

Lance Corporal Shaun Brierley, in March 2003, in the earliest days

of the Iraq war. Debbie's husband was killed in

attack hit by so-called friendly fire again in March 2000 three.

Iain Mcmenemy was a TA soldier and served in Iraq in 2003.

Peter, what do you think now that you have had a little time to absorb

some of Chilcot's report? When it came out, it came out almost exactly

as we needed it to be. We expected it to be covered up so that we would

have to look for things, but it is fairly plain that what Tony Blair

calls mistakes, we don't accept that they were mistakes. He had decided

to go to war in 2002. I don't accept his apology. Iain, how do you

reflect on some of what Sir John Chilcot said? I thought it was a

very hard-hitting report, perhaps more hard-hitting than a number of

people had expected. And that may be explained some of Tony Blair's

initial body language yesterday, when he started speaking, before he

slipped back into his old statesman-like ways. It was quite a

body blow to him. But I think Sir John Chilcot is a career civil

servant, a man I have a lot of respect for. And I think he uses

language suggesting that things should have been examined more

closely. He is not the kind of person to use the word lies or

anything as strong as that. But he is suggesting that things were not

done. He is saying that Tony Blair raps chose not to look deeper into

the intelligence, because he was building a case for a project he had

committed to nearly a year before. On the radio this morning, Tony

Blair has admitted that he should have challenged the intelligence a

lot more rigorously. Debbie, conclusions like "There was no

imminent threat from Saddam Hussein, military action was not a last

resort and the policy towards Iraq was based on flawed evidence" - how

you process that? At the moment, it is quite hard to process. It is

something I was speaking to our legal team about today. It is

something I have been saying for the last 30 years. Saying we had no

equipment and should not have gone in so fast and everything else. I

suppose it is quite a shock now to see it in black and white. I never

expected that. How do you feel you have been treated in your quest to

establish what Sir John Chilcot said you had been thinking all along? It

has been a hard battle over the last 13 years. The MoD haven't helped by

claiming things like national security against paperwork, making

the case hard. They have taken me to court to try and stop me taking

further action, and we have won them all. But it has been a hard battle.

If this report had come out at the beginning, it would have been a lot

easier for me. Let's have a listen to a little

of what Tony Blair said yesterday - A short time ago, my colleague

on BBC Radio 4, John Humphrys, asked Tony Blair why

it was apparently so difficult for him to say sorry to families

of those who had died Isn't there a sense perhaps

in which you, you're a deeply religious man,

we know that, it's impossible for you, in a sense,

to offer the people who have been affected by the war

the apology, the full apology they feel is needed,

because the responsibility for that is something that

you simply couldn't bear, and I wonder whether you pray

at all and whether you ask I think there may well be people

who believe that until I say I took the wrong decision,

that I am not properly sorry. But because I don't believe it

and because I don't think that this struggle was in vain in the end,

when I look at the Middle East today, forgive me for saying this,

but I'm there a lot of the time. I see the struggle going

on in the Middle East, which is all to do with,

can these coutries get to religiously tolerant

and pluralistic societies, can they get to rule-based

economies and democracy, and I am looking at it and thinking,

OK, what we did in removing Saddam had terrible consequences

that we did not foresee and I understand all the criticisms,

but when I look at it today, I still think we moved

with the grain of where the future is to be in these countries

and in this region. And in the end, when I look

at other battlefields or battlegrounds in the region,

are we better off in Syria I don't know, but I know that this

debate can't just be conducted in terms of whether my decision

in Iraq was taken on right or wrong grounds or in good

faith or bad faith. At some point, we have got to be

able to have what I would call a deep debate about how

we deal with this issue. Iain, how do you respond to Mr Blair

saying the struggle was not in vain? I accept that he believes that what

he did was right. He believes his decision-making process was right

because he wanted to remove Saddam Hussein. But he used intelligence in

a way that misled people. He sexed it up, was the phrase used at the

time. He took that information and twisted it in a way to build an

argument, and then told us, the soldiers who were asked to go out

and serve, he told his own Cabinet, it has now been found out that a lot

of it was discussions on sofas in Downing Street with key people, not

his whole Cabinet, and then he told parliament all this information that

he had. So whilst I understand that in his own mind, he probably

believes he was just in doing this, he cannot take such a grave decision

and put people's lives on the line, not just British lives, but Iraqi

lives as well and others throughout the world who have paid a price for

this conflict that has now expanded, when you are asking people to do

that, the least you owe them is some honesty. Peter, how do you react?

One of the things about the Chilcot Inquiry was the aftermath. If I

understand rightly, he has said when he goes to the Middle East now, it

looks better. It is 30 years too late if that is true. But last week,

there was a bomb, one of the biggest for a long time in Baghdad. So that

does not seem any better to me. As you said, everything he did, he did

on manipulation. Sir John Chilcot suggested that he

presented the evidence with a certainty which was not justified.

That's it. I am now convinced that he actually believes what he is

saying. This is not spin, it isn't trying to cover his back, I think he

believes what he's saying. Is delusional. Delusional, what do you

think of that description? I think he's definitely delusional. The

evidence is there in black and white. He did believe he was going

into Iraq for the right reasons, but like as he needs to sit down and

read the report and accept that he was wrong. Iraq and the world is not

a better place. The probably also needs to question that, because he

was warned about future terrorist activity, we can question whether

the world's status as it is now is a result of Tony Blair's actions.

Nobody will ever know that. But he was warned about future terrorist

activities. You do not know how the future would have panned out if he

had made different decisions at that time. Do you accept that one of the

things he said yesterday's was that he was pleading with people to put

themselves in his position, in his shoes, as he put it. He was

thinking, there could be a 9/11 in Britain. Do you accept that? Yes,

and we did have the London bombings. But he is the Prime Minister of the

country, he should be the person who listens to the Cabinet and makes

sure that everything is correct. You just can't go doing what he did,

sending soldiers into the war, and the implications of killing

thousands of people and destroying Iraq, just because he thought it was

right. He needs to get everything right. He should have got the

intelligence right and everything. And obviously, the report is really

damning against Tony Blair. Can I ask you, Debbie, what you want now,

finally? At the moment I think it is too soon to know what exactly I

want. I want some kind of accountability. I feel better in

myself now that it has come in our favour. And that the world knows

that what we have been saying for the last 13 years is actually true.

But I think the next steps is obviously maybe the families get

together, and I think we do need to be a united front, and maybe it will

be a legal battle. But what I do know is that this should never have

happened and it can never happen again. Peter, what do you want next,

if anything? I would back up what has just been said. We obviously

need to read the report properly. And then my hope would be that Tony

Blair is put in front of a judge. The Chilcot Inquiry was full and

frank and everything else, but it was not legal. Do you mean put in

front of a judge, charged with a criminal offence, like misconduct in

public office, which has been suggested by one former director of

the security is? Well, I think that is a possibility. -- former director

of public prosecutions. For 13 years, we have wanted to see Tony

Blair answering for what he did. And for me, that would be answering in a

court. I have actually done this for 13 years, and I'm hoping now that

Tony Blair will stand in court and I can go home and say to my wife, I

have done everything I can now. If he's not guilty, I will accept that.

I will not believe it but I will accept it. And that's it, we've done

what we needed to do. And as Debbie also said, we've got to make sure

that what happened can never, ever happen again. Iain, what do you want

now, if anything? I just hope that something positive comes from this.

That when decisions are made in the future to go to war, that it's

properly planned, that it's based on robust intelligence, that it can't

just be people sitting in rooms, some of them not elected, just

appointed people, just making decisions to send people off to a

foreign land to fight in a conflict, not even asking questions - did they

have the kit ready to do it? And then when things happen on the

ground, they are just failing to react. I heard yesterday about

something in the report suggesting that in terms of the armoured

vehicles, the Ministry of Defence didn't order the armoured vehicles

because they were waiting for a new model to arrive. Whether that was

just to save money, I don't know, but if that is the kind of

decision-making process, with people losing their lives... It is

unbelievable. Surely you have to have more robust processes put in

place. Better planning, better resources, and better

decision-making in the future, is what I hope for. Thank you all of

you very much. These are some of your messages. This one says JoCo I

cannot help but feel slightly sorry for Tony Blair. I cannot stand him,

but he's obviously an intelligent guy. You are raising your eyebrows

at that, Peter. He happened to be involved with consummate moron, in

the shape of George W Bush. This one says, I am appalled by the

vilification of Tony Blair. I believe him to be honest and sincere

politician who led this country at a time of crisis. This one says JoCo

it is the Iraqi people who are also the victims. British soldiers chose

to invade Iraq and also Afghanistan. This one says, you know he is white

when he says the issue is the lack of democracy in the Middle East.

Keep those coming in. So to come... Comedian Omid Djalili,

has made a film about the Stop The War protests,

and he will be in the studio. And it's the end of the road

for Wales at Euro 2016 - We'll speak to some of their fans

who hopped on board. The former Prime Minister Tony Blair

has again defended his decision Yesterday, the Chilcot report

delivered scathing criticism of the planning, conduct

and aftermath of the war. Senior figures involved

in the decision to take Britain to war in Iraq have responded

to the inquiry by suggesting it underplayed the role

of the United States in pushing Mr Blair told the BBC this morning

that he'd tried to persuade the US If they go back to

the United Nations and get a resolution there, that

of course postpones military action, which was my purpose,

and gives us a chance You will find elsewhere in

the evidence that after the November resolution was passed,

there was a conversation where President Bush accepted

explicitly that if there was compliance with 1441,

there would not be military action. So, I understand exactly

what you're saying. You can take these phrases

and debate what they mean. But I can assure you,

what I meant was very, very clear, and was clear

to the Americans - I am right alongside you in dealing with this,

but it has to be done the right way. It has to be done through

the United Nations. party leader and Prime Minister.

on who they want to be the next There are three candidates

left in the race. In the first vote the Home Secretary

Theresa May finished well ahead, followed by Andrea Leadsom

and Michael Gove. The final two with the most votes

will then have to win the support of 150,000 Conservative

party members. The result is due on September

9th, but some MPs want Thousands of people have taken part

in a vigil in the American state of Louisiana, where a black man

was shot dead by two white police Video footage has been published

online appearing to show 37-year- old Alton Sterling being held down

and shot, outside a convenience There's been another shooting

in America in which a black man has been shot dead by police

in confused circumstances. The latest incident took

place in Minnesota. The local Police Department said the

man was wounded in an officer involved shooting but that he died

later in hospital. Two children have died after the car they were

travelling in crashed into a loch in Argyll. Police Scotland have

appealed for further information. MPs have expressed significant

concerns about the government's preferred candidate for the next

head of the schools regulator, The Education Select

Committee has questioned Amanda Spielman's passion

for the job, and understanding But the Education Secretary, Nicky

Morgan, says Ms Spielman remains She is currently chairperson

of the exams regulator. Sir Michael Wilshaw steps down

as head of Ofsted at the That is a summary of the news. Time

for the sport, with's, in Lyon. Good morning, and here are your sports

headlines this morning. Wales fans have been praising their team's

performance here at the Euros. They were knocked out by Portugal last

night in the semifinal. Andy Murray says he had to summon up all of his

M -- all of his energy to overcome Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the

quarterfinal. He will play Tomas Berdych in the semis tomorrow. And

in the Tour de France, the Belgian cyclist has taken a big lead.

Defending champion Chris Froome is more than five minutes behind. More

sport coming up in half an hour. We're just hours away

from finding out which two Tory MPs will battle it out

to become our next Prime Minister. Conservative politicians are voting

now between Theresa May, the Home Secretary,

the Justice Secretary Michael Gove and the Energy Minister Andrea

Leadsom. The two with the highest

number of votes will be Andrea Leadsom is launching her

campaign to be Prime Minister She is outlining her ideas for

Brexit. I truly believe we can be the greatest nation on earth.

As we show that the UK is once again open to the world and united in our

new destiny, so we will expand our horizons. Prosperity should be our

goal, not austerity. I want to spread prosperity to every

corner of our country. I want to help create more jobs, because we

need to hear and to heed those millions of our fellow citizens who

feel and fear that their country's leaders are not worrying about them

enough. Those people who think that chief

executives of some big businesses get telephone number salaries which

bear no relation to the performance of their companies. And I say to all

of those people - I am with you, and I want you to share in the great

future for this country. I want to see better training,

smarter working, yes, and higher pay for the many. I want to lead a

nation where anyone who aims high can achieve their dreams. My first

task is to show how great our potential is as a nation. Let's

banish the pessimists! Mark Kane, the Bank of England

governor, was exactly right last week when he said, and I quote, the

UK can handle change. It has one of the most flexible economies in the

world, and benefits from a deep reservoir of human capital,

world-class infrastructure and the rule of law. Its people are admired

the world over for their strength under adversity. The question is not

whether the UK will adjust, but rather how quickly and how well. He

goes onto say that a clear plan is needed. Is absolutely right. So

today, I want to speak to the markets as well as to the nation -

no-one needs to fear our decision to leave the EU.

We will do so carefully, reassuring our European friends and those

businesses who are worrying about change chief. Trade must be the top

priority. Continued, tariff free trade with the EU. Continued free

trade with those countries we have agreements with is a current member

of the EU. And vitally, seizing the opportunities to take up new

free-trade agreements with fast-growing economies around the

world. Andrea Leadsom, one of the Tory leadership candidates, setting

out her views on the British economy and the future, setting out her

views on a post-Brexit Britain as well. Norman Smith, our political

guru, is listening to that speech. He will be with us in the next

half-hour to fill us in on what else she says. By the end of today, there

will be just two Tory leadership and that is left. It is between Andrea

Leadsom, Michael Gove, the Justice Secretary and Theresa May, the Home

Secretary. Thank you for your comments on the Chilcot report. Phil

says, what gives Tony Blair the right to believe we can interfere in

the affairs of another country? How would we like it? On Twitter, the

reluctant guru says saying sorry is not enough. Time for Tony Blair to

be made accountable for his reckless decisions. Angelina Socci, how do we

punish America? They lead us into a war that was not necessary. Because

of them, we lost a hell of a lot of lives. How do we make Bush

accountable for the lives we lost? Keep those coming in.

In a moment, we will bring you unverified video.

He was reaching for his wallet and the officer shot him. He just shot

his arm of. I told him not to reach for it! Yellow Mesut Ozil and to get

his idea. This incident comes after widespread protests following the

death of this man. Alton Sterling was a father of five who was shot

dead by police officers in Baton Rouge in Louisiana. Police were

called after reports of a man threatening people. The images you

are about to see are distressing. If you have children in the room, you

will probably not want them to see this. The man in red is Mr Stirling.

The two white officers tackle him and hold him down before you hear

one shop, he's got a gun. He's got a gun! Mr Stirling died from multiple

gunshot wounds to his chest and back. The US justice department has

now launched an -- an investigation. His widow has been speaking to

reporters. They took away a man with children,

who depended upon their daddy on a daily basis. My son is not the

youngest, he is the oldest of his siblings. He is 15 years old. He had

to watch as this was put all over the outlets.

The US justice department has opened an investigation into his death.

Let's take a look at the figures. Last year, 1152 people were killed

by the police in the United States. 30% - or three in 10 -

of those killed were black. That's a much higher proportion

of black people than in the US And in 97% of those cases last year,

no police officer has been charged. So what is known about

Baton Rouge in Louisiana? Our reporter Benjamin Zand has

visited the city's most When I first got to Baton Rouge,

people were telling me this was the worst neighbourhood in town. It has

some of the highest homicide rates and HIV rates not only here but in

the country as a whole. My neighbour actually got shot last year. But

everywhere has good people, and I want to ask some of the people who

live here, how would they change America if they had the chance and

in the famous words of a gentleman who got beat in California, I want

to know why we can't get along. Everybody hates one another. I don't

know why, I can't understand. We say we are the United States of America,

but we are actually not united. You can look at the Democrats and

Republicans, they are not united at all. Put back into the schools, the

courthouse. I do an application

five times and get no response, even though you called

to check on the application. I have bills to pay,

and you have money and I can't be where you

and your family will be. All I am thinking about is,

my sister's hungry, all my bills

need to be paid. Here's another one

from when I got shot. It is violent - these

were two separate incidents. I say racism, because I think racism

is something they don't People don't want

to open up about it. Everyone has to be able to rise

to an income threshold that allows You just have to help people to tap

into what those are. You need resources to go not only

towards improving the education system, but it also needs

to go into improving If you go to school around here,

and live around here, As you know, the Wales adventure at

Euro 2016 is over after they were beaten by Portugal in the semifinal.

We can speak to some fans who were at the game and some who watched it

back home. Welcome, all of you. " How are you feeling this morning?

Very tired, I have just got back from Lyon. So you were there! I

landed at about four o'clock this morning and I had to come to work at

about eight o'clock. So, quite tired! Work are all right about you

talking to us? Fantastic, yes. They have given me a couple of minutes! .

What did you think of Wales' performance last night?

It has been amazing. It was just outstanding. I have heard some Wales

fans saying they were not sure the team really turned up last night,

particularly in the second half. It was difficult. We were missing some

key players. But to be in the semifinals was amazing, and the boys

did proud. What are your reflections on this amazing adventure? My heart

was beating. It is taking a bit of time to sink in. It has been an

incredible experience. The team has done the whole country

proud. Not only with the way they have played, but the way they have

acquitted themselves off the field as well. They have shown the rest of

Europe what Wales is about. I wonder if you are looking ahead with relish

to the qualifying for the next World Cup, which starts in two months'

time? Exactly. This is not the end of a journey, it is the start. We

have another chapter to come. Now I definitely look forward to the

quarterfinals. We can look forward with confidence. It's another

challenge for a team, getting to a World Cup rather than a European

Championship. Rob, what are you thinking this morning? Well, I was

toasting the victory with champagne, but I am now here with a cup of tea.

I don't think we can feel down. I think what has happened over the

last month will get better as we look back on it. There was a great

phrase used yesterday, saying, this must not be a legacy, this must be a

catalyst. We are now down to earth with a bump. We play Montenegro in

the next World Cup qualifier. But they have just represented a whole

nation. They have sold Wales across the world. People have fallen in

love with Wales. Cymru is cool again. Everyone knows where it is.

Last March, I was at the Millennium Stadium with my kids and it was a

great crowd moment. I will never forget it. I have my heroes. I was

saying to my eight-year-old boy, there were the Gareth Bale of his

era. They have brought dance of the past back into real context. That is

a fantastic way to describe it. I take my hat off to you for the way

you have articulated that. They have also shown to smaller nations like

England what you can do at a football tournament. This transcends

sport. It means a nation can dare to dream on any level. It is about good

preparation. I was at the high school where Gareth Bale went to

school the other day. There were 12 or 15 different news organisations

or wanting to learn about Gareth. But as his old headmaster and PE

teacher said, we are proud of every pupil here, and Gareth is a role

model to everyone who is here now and every pupil in the future. You

can strive to be the best you can be. That is what I can say to my

kids with pride now. From the First Minister Carwyn Jones down to

everyone in the country, we take this moment and wrap it up in

ourselves and stride forward with more confidence as a people and

nation. Quick word about Gareth Bale? Oh, we have just lost him.

Karen, a quick word about Gareth Bale. How would you describe the way

he has been through this tournament? He has been one of the catalysts of

motivation for the boys. That has brought the team together stronger.

It is just an amazing group of guys. Thank you, all of you.

Time for the weather. There is nothing simple about the weather at

the moment, all pretty complicated. It is sunny for some and cloudy for

others. It is going to be a bit dull and damp across most of Wales for

the rest of today, about bricks of drizzle here and there. Some

sunshine in the south-east. There should be plenty of play at

Wimbledon today. Sunny spells in Northern Ireland. Lots of showers in

the Highlands and Western Isles. If you have the sunshine, temperatures

in the high teens and low 20s. Where it is great, just 16 or 17. -- where

it is grey. It is going to be a one night again, temperatures remaining

in the team's -- a warm night. Friday is also completed. Heading up

into the North Sea, the weather front will provide a few showers

across the far south. As for the weekend, it gets very competitive.

More I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

welcome to the programme 24 hours on from

the Chilcot's damning report, Tony Blair has again

defended his decision to lead Britain into the Iraq War,

while relatives of soldiers and those who served in action have

given us their verdicts. What is true, and I

completely accept it, is that we were giving

the United States a very clear commit went that we were a goal

of the alongside them How we dealt with it

is another matter. I am now convinced that he actually

believes what he is saying. This isn't a spin, or trying to cover his

back, he actually believes what he is saying. He is delusional. I think

when he is suggesting these sorts of things, that enough was not done, he

is saying that Tony Blair perhaps chose not to look the intelligence,

because he was building a case for a project that he had committed to the

year before. We'll take a look at what lessons

can be learnt for future governments A shortage of nurses

in England and Wales - how will the NHS cope,

when the existing problem will be compounded with one in three nurses

due for retirement over the next decade,

say researchers? And disappointed but proud -

Wales fans reflect on their team's semifinal defeat to Cristiano

Ronaldo's Portugal at Euro 2016 - in their most successful

ever football tournament. Yes, Wales can leave this tournament

with their heads held high - they will go home tomorrow to hero's

welcome, and parties in the streets across Wales.

Any more cliches welcome on this programme!

A 32-year-old taxi driver from Bradford in West Yorkshire has

pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow to the murder of shopkeeper

Hassan Shah in March this year. The 40-year-old was killed just hours

after he posted an Easter message on Facebook to his customers, which

wed, happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation.

The former Prime Minister Tony Blair has again sought to defend his

decision to lead Britain into the Iraq War.

Yesterday, the Chilcot report was profoundly critical

of the war's planning, conduct and aftermath.

Senior figures involved have responded by suggesting the inquiry

underplayed the role of the US, in pushing for military

Mr Blair told the BBC this morning that he'd tried to persuade the US

If they go back to the United Nations and

get a resolution there, that of course postpones military action,

which was my purpose, and gives us a chance

You will find elsewhere in the evidence that after the November

resolution was passed, there was a conversation

where President Bush accepted explicitly that if there

was compliance with 1441, there would not be military action.

So, I understand exactly what you're saying.

You can take these phrases and debate what they mean.

But I can assure you, what I meant was very,

very clear, and was clear to the Americans - I am right

alongside you in dealing with this, but it has to be done the right way.

It has to be done through the United Nations.

Debi Allbutt, whose husband was killed in Iraq in March

2003, said Mr Blair had failed the country.

He is the Prime Minister of the country, he should be the person who

listens to the Cabinet and makes sure that everything is correct.

You just can't go doing what he did, sending

the implications of killing thousands of people and destroying

Iraq, just because he thought it was right.

He should have got the intelligence right and everything.

And obviously, the report is really damning against Tony Blair.

Conservative MPs vote again today on who they want to be the next

There are three candidates left in the race.

In the first vote the Home Secretary Theresa May finished

well ahead, followed by Andrea Leadsom and Michael Gove.

The final two with the most votes will then have to win

the support of 150,000 Conservative party members.

The result is due on September 9th, but some MPs want

Well, Andrea Leadsom has been setting out her views

on the post-Brexit economy, she said what the country needs

And I say to all of those people - I am with you, and

I want you to share in the great future for this country.

I want to see better training, smarter working, yes, and higher pay

I want to lead a nation where anyone who aims high

Thousands of people have taken part in a vigil outside a shop

Two children, aged two and three, have died after the car

they were travelling in crashed into a loch

A 36-year-old woman was taken to hospital as a precaution

MPs have expressed significant concerns about the government's

preferred candidate for the next head of the schools regulator,

The Education Select Committee has questioned

Amanda Spielman's passion for the job, and understanding

But the Education Secretary, Nicky Morgan, says Ms Spielman remains

She is currently chairperson of the exams regulator, Ofqual.

Sir Michael Wilshaw steps down as head of Ofsted at the

Time for the sport, with Sally, in Lyon.

We have had emotional roller-coaster, heads held high,

epic journey, any more cliches we want to throw in about Wales? I have

got many, many more to come! The streets will be lined with fans

tomorrow I expect for a homecoming beyond their wildest dreams! Shall I

stop or just tell you what actually happened?! Please! It has been a

fantastic few weeks, just to follow Wales, even if you are not Wales

fan, if you're not Welsh, to enjoy the process of them becoming this

fantastic team, property unit that we have seen. When you look back

through their tournament, you would have to say that that game against

Belgium was their final. It was an amazing performance from that team,

even Chris Coleman has said that. Last night the Portugal match felt

like it was perhaps just one match to fall, as Drew Savage now reports.

The Welsh strength and togetherness and passion had carried them this

But it was not quite enough to take them to Paris.

The players are gutted, but that will subside.

They need to understand that they have done their

The match had been billed as Cristiano Ronaldo versus

Shortly after the break, the Portuguese struck.

A great leap forward for Portugal, and just three minutes later,

followed by a sucker punch from a seemingly innocuous

Quick thinking from the former Manchester United man Nani,

Wayne Hennessey just about kept it down to two.

Without Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale had to try

But a Welsh comeback was a long shot, even beyond his

Portugal and Ronaldo are on their way to Paris.

Wales' tournament of a lifetime ends in Lyon.

There are lots of very proud Welsh sports men and women this morning.

The rugby union captain Sam Warburton has treated... The Welsh

cyclist Geraint Thomas said... And Rob Brydon said... But it was not

just the football last night. I think lots of people at home were

probably watching the football on one side and an epic Andy Murray

match on the other, against Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Murray said he

had to summon up all of his energy to overcome Tsonga in the

quarterfinal. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga had battled back from two sets down.

Murray will play Berdych in the semis tomorrow. Obviously, it was a

tough match. The end of the fourth set was really tough, from 0-40, in

that game, to lose that set 6-4, was hard. I just tried to use all of my

energy at the beginning of the fifth set to get myself up, try and get

the crowd pumped up. It had been a long day for them, some long

matches. Thankfully I got the early break in that fifth set. Like I

said, it was quiet and sleepy here in Lyon this morning. It is quarter

past 11 here, and I can tell you there are signs of life. I am

starting to see Wales fans emerging. Back to you! We have had so many

messages from you about the Chilcot Report. I will read a couple more

now. This one says - Tony Blair cannot be blamed for everything.

Disaster in Iraq would have happened without the UK. It was an

American-led war, with 40 other countries. This one says - who in

their right mind would send troops into battle without the right

vehicles, clothing or books? This one says - I think Tony Blair should

be put in front of a judge. I feel sorry for all of those who have not

had justice for the love ones who died. This one says - I was in Iraq

in 2003, and I'm slightly disheartened by the outcome of

Chilcot. We did a lot of great things out there and changed a lot

of lives. This one says - you did the right thing, Tony Blair, don't

allow people to shout you down. This one says - please stop vilifying

Tony Blair. He made a decision waste on the available information

although I personally never voted for him.

Mr Blair said his decision to go to war was the most difficult of his

time as Prime Minister, but says he did so in good faith, sentiments

which he has reiterated on the radio this morning. So what are the

lessons for future governments when considering military action?

Let's talk now to Lord West, who was head of the UK Navy

during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, Ben Bradshaw,

who was the Deputy Leader of the House Of Commons

at the time of Tony Blair taking the country to war,

Lord Butler who in 2004 chaired the review of intelligence

on weapons of mass destruction, and Dr Lina Khatib,

who is head of the Middle East and North Africa Programme

at Chatham House, an organisation whose mission is "to help build

a sustainably secure, prosperous and just world".

I would like to ask you first of all how you react to the report, Lord

West? I think you should be congratulated, because it is a good

and thorough report. I don't know if I will ever read 2.6 million words.

Just reading the summary is quite a task, which I have just finish. I

think it is good. I was on Russian television yesterday, and I said

thank goodness I was in a country where people were willing to release

documents and produce that kind of report. I think overall I agree with

most of the things in their, although I do feel, in fact I know,

I was told in July 2002, that we would be invading Iraq in the New

Year of 2003. And I do think, because there had been agreement

about regime change, that Tony Blair got himself logged in Britain there

became an almost inevitability. When I was told this was going to

happened, I was commander of the fleet, and I told the fleet to be

ready for war in the New Year. I sailed my vessels, which take

longer, to get out there. I said they were exercising, and

effectively they were going out there for war. Why the time the war

came, I was First Sea Lord, and I do feel there was a certain casting

around, let's find an absolute excuse for this. I was quite

surprised by the WMD thing, having been chief of intelligence for

several years, and having been intimately involved in what the

Iraqis had and the whole UN inspection regime, Desert Fox, when

we fired missiles at him because he would not comply. That surprised me,

and I felt it was casting around for a reason to say, let's do it. What

do you think of the report and what you have been able to absorb from

it? I think the report is not surprising at all. We have been

living with the consequences of the 2003 invasion for the last 13 years.

The report told us what we already know, which is that this war was

ill-advised, ill planned and ill executed. Ben Bradshaw? I took some

comfort from the report that it did not imply bad faith on behalf of

those who voted for the removal of Saddam Hussein. It made quite clear

there was no fabrication or misuse of intelligence, that the Cabinet

was not deceived, that there was no actual prior secret deal to go to

war. There are very important lessons to be learned I think about

the post-conflict planning in particular. I would be really

worried if the lesson we all draw from this is that we should never

intervene, if you look at what is happening in Syria now. There are

also terrible costs of not intervening. Lord Butler, your

reaction? I was pleased to hear one of the

relatives say yesterday that the report lived up to their

expectations. It took a long time, but it is

And I agree with Lord West. What other country would allow a complete

no holds barred examination of all the decision of a war? Would France,

Russia or America do it? I don't believe so. That is something the UK

can be proud of. Then Bradshaw, aren't you horrified that we now

know there was no imminent threat? The evidence had been visited to you

with a certainty that was not justified. You would not have voted

for it otherwise? I am not sure I wouldn't have. I am not one of those

people who is going to use the benefit of hindsight. That is a

copout. The evidence from our intelligence services and those

across the developed world said the same. And we also knew that Saddam

had used these weapons in the past, killing thousands of his own people,

waging war on Kuwait and Iran in the recent past, and had played cat and

mouse with the weapons inspectors for years. But all peaceful options

had not been explored. I don't agree with that. If you look at what was

going on at that time and the attempt by Tony Blair to persuade

the Americans to go back to the United Nations, what we know that

Rumsfeld and Cheney in the US administration had no interest in

going to them... And when weapons inspectors were begging for more

time? They were, but since the last report from the Iraq survey group,

it shows categorically that if Saddam Hussein had been left in

power, he would have redeveloped his programmes. I think that is true. We

knew Saddam Hussein wanted to develop his nuclear weapons, but he

didn't have any. It is generally a bad idea to invade people. You do it

if anyone has really done something appalling to you. Saddam had not

been attacking British people or the British nation. It is part of the

reason I felt with Assad that one has to be careful with how much we

hit him, for the same reason. We are there if people attack our people

globally. Yes, there is a stability aspect, but that is it. I felt it

was unfortunate that we were moving so fast into war. And weren't you

shocked when the Chilcot report suggested that a month after 9/11,

Mr Blair was saying to America, we need to get rid of Saddam? What I

found difficult was there was a lot of talk about Saddam dealing with

terrorists. He did not help Al-Qaeda. He was not linked to these

terrorist groups. They are wrong in that. He was a dangerous man. He

invaded Kuwait and was shooting at our aircraft who were flying in the

no-fly zone every day he killed matters of his own people. But that

is not the same thing. I would add that we have to look at the context

of Iraq and Syria today, which are different from in 2003. I want to

say that invasion, when it is not demanded by the people, is wrong. We

should not compare the situation of Assad today in Syria with this

situation of Saddam Hussein in 2003. Did you accept anything of what Mr

Blair suggested they, put yourself in my shoes? It might be wrong, but

you have to make a judgment. Yes, but I know that when it comes to the

2003 Iraq invasion, the intelligence from the United States was not

really contest it in the UK. And within the United States government,

the different intelligence bureau had different takes on the

intelligence about weapons of mass destruction. Not all of the

intelligence bureau is within the US administration agreed that the

threat was there. There was internal dissent going on, but this was

overruled by the policymakers and the evidence was percentage to our

Prime Minister. So of course he had to make a decision, but he could

have done more. Politicians need to understand that they set a momentum

going. Once you start the whole thing going, it is extremely

difficult. An unstoppable train. It is very difficult. By March, it

would have been quite something to have stopped that. I want to talk

about lessons for governments in the future. Lord Butler, what do you

draw from what you have absorbed from Chilcot regarding future

governments and their decisions on military intervention? In my review,

I criticised Tony Blair on two grounds. One was the way in which

intelligence was used as a method of political persuasion on which I

don't think it should be. The other was the fact that he didn't use the

Cabinet and all the resources of government properly. These decisions

do need to be challenged by colleagues and experts who have

greater experience and expertise. Tony Blair kept the decision in such

a small group that he didn't allow those decisions to be open to proper

challenge. Why did he do that, Ben Bradshaw? Well, he denied that. He

said the intelligence was shared. I am talking about the decision to go

to war. The decision to go to war was taken by Parliament. If you look

back parliamentary debate we had, a majority of MPs supported the

decision. The 45 minute thing was not even mentioned, it was about

compliance with the United Nations resolutions. People forget that

Saddam Hussein... The 45 minute was mentioned. It related to the time it

took to fire a gas shell. It gave the impression something could hit

Britain. If you read the whole debate again, you will find that the

majority of the argument for taking the action was Saddam's repeated

failure for many years not to comply with mandatory United Nations

resolution. No other leader in the world had been in such

noncompliance. On the legal basis, it is interesting. I took separately

good advice, because I want to be sure muscle does would not be caught

eye. And the advice I had supported what the Attorney General said. What

impact will this report have on future decisions for military

intervention? We have already seen the impact of the Iraq war on the

Syria vote in the House of Commons. Will this report affect foreign

policy in Britain in the future? I doubt it, because ultimately, we

have seen very clearly that this invasion that happened in 2003, just

like the lack of intervention in Syria today, is ultimately a US

decision. I think the report is too focused on the UK in a way that

makes it look like we had more say in this. In the end, the US calls

the shots. But Britain doesn't have to hit itself to a US decision. So I

wonder if that will affect future British Prime Minister's Questions I

doubt that we have the spine. I disagree. This is already having an

impact. And the fact that we are closely allied to the US is good for

this country. But my goodness me, we have to stand up for them. We did

during the Vietnam War and would not get involved. I have a feeling that

this time, we shackled ourselves to them and I have the feeling that we

had said, whatever happens, we are with you for this invasion. We must

not get ourselves in that position. But generally, we should be joined

at the hip with American, but we have freedom of action. I agree. I

think this has already had an effect, and you saw it in the debate

around Syria. Clearly, the post-Iraq psychology of Britain is now to be

much more reluctant. I think there is a risk that, because there are

always costs of non-intervention, as we have seen in Syria. There is a

terrible dilemma for politicians these days. On intervention, they

are damned if they do and damned if they don't. But on that point, if

you can show as a British Prime Minister that you have gone through

every process, you have challenged the evidence, your cabinet has

challenge you, you have done your damnedest to get everyone on the UN

Security Council to support you, if you can show the British public that

and the legal advice says it is all right, then you might feel more

justified. They did all of that. The Blair admitted on the radio this

morning that he didn't challenge the intelligence. But the idea that we

didn't try to get the Security Council, that was the whole point of

our strategy, to go through the United Nations. If you listen to

what our ambassador at the time has said today, he doesn't agree with

Chilcot's view that we undermined the US Security Council -- the UN

Security Council. It was Russia and France. It wasn't Mr Blair's job to

challenge the intelligence, that is the job of the intelligence experts.

But he should have been careful ball about how he presented it to the

public. But as Prime Minister, surely you can say to your

intelligence chiefs, are you sure about this? You shouldn't have to

say that. If the intelligence chiefs in a piece of intelligence to you

and say you can rely on it, that is their job. But if you wanted to

sleep that night, you would double-check. Who is the Prime

Minister to say, I want to make an independent check of this? This goes

back to my concerned that they had decided they were going to go that

way. I think they grasp this with great joy. Having been involved in

intelligence for years and years, I couldn't believe that that piece of

intelligence was so absolutely clear. It seemed to me, this can't

be right. I have read the ports and they are normally infuriating

because they have some any caveats. This had no caveats. I didn't like

it. I felt like people were saying, great. We can now go. Intelligence

was presented as if it was uniquely worthy of belief. Actually,

intelligence is uniquely worthy of scepticism. Why didn't intelligence

chiefs say to Mr Blair, you are presenting this in a way that we

have not delivered it to you? Because they didn't see that as

their job. Oh, my gosh! Their job was to make sure the dossier

presented the conclusions of the intelligence community. It was up to

politicians to decide. Ultimately, it is the policymakers who decide. I

know that, but intelligent people in the intelligence community could

also have said, hang on a minute, not for that is what we said. They

had warned the politicians. They said, the intelligence is sporadic.

And yet that was not reflected. So the intelligence community could

have said that. Well, if you have said it wants... To be fair to Tony

Blair, sometimes you have to make decisions. That is why he was Prime

Minister. I wouldn't want to be Prime Minister. There are times when

there are political decisions you have to make and be clear about

them. I do accept that. Thank you all very much.

Still to come in the last 45 minutes of the programme, there is an NHS

staffing crisis in England and Wales. A warning that even allowing

more overseas nurses to work in the UK will not be enough to plug the

gap in the workforce. And we will talk to major lily, the

comedian turned film-maker, who will be here talk about the film he has

made that looks at the stop the war process -- Omid Djalii, and his film

about the stop the war protest. Now the latest news.

A 32-year-old taxi driver, Tanveer Ahmed from Bradford and West

Yorkshire, has pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow to the murder

of the shopkeeper Assad Shah in March this year. The 40-year-old was

killed just hours after he posted an Easter message on Facebook to his

customers which read, Good Friday and a very happy Easter, especially

to my beloved Christian nation. The former Prime Minister Tony Blair

has again sought to defend his decision to leave Britain -- lead

Britain into the Iraq war. The Chilcot report was critical of the

war's planning, conduct and aftermath. Senior figures have

suggested the inquiry underplayed the role of the US in pushing for

military action to told the BBC this morning that he

had tried to persuade the US to go down a different route.

If they go back to the United Nations and

get a resolution there, that of course postpones military action,

which was my purpose, and gives us a chance

You will find elsewhere in the evidence that after the November

resolution was passed, there was a conversation

where President Bush accepted explicitly that if there

was compliance with 1441, there would not be military action.

So, I understand exactly what you're saying.

You can take these phrases and debate what they mean.

But I can assure you, what I meant was very,

very clear, and was clear to the Americans - I am right

alongside you in dealing with this, but it has to be done the right way.

It has to be done through the United Nations.

Two children, aged two and three, have died after the car

they were travelling in crashed into a loch near Oban in Argyll.

A 36-year-old woman was taken to hospital as a precaution

Police Scotland have appealed for further information.

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candidate for the next head of the schools regulator,

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Amanda Spielman's passion for the job, and understanding

But Education Secretary Nicky Morgan says Ms Spielman remains

She's currently chairwoman of the exams regulator Ofqual.

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Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.

Let's get more on that Wales defeat in Euro 2016 with

For the final time, to talk about the disappointment of Wales, but the

fact that they can be proud. That's really sad, for the final time! Yes,

Wales were full stop. Out by Portugal in the semifinal last

night. Andy Murray says he had to summon up all of his energy to

overcome Jo-Wilfried Tsonga at Wimbledon in the quarterfinal

yesterday's. World number plays Tomas Berdych in the semifinal

tomorrow. And the Belgian cyclist Greg van Avermaet takes a big lead

in the Tour de France. So, for the last time, that is all the sport

from me, in France. Thank you so much. Really enjoyed your stuff from

over there. Well, Andrea Leadsom has been

setting out her views on the post-Brexit economy,

she said what the country needs And I say to all of those people -

I am with you, and I want you to share in the great

future for this country. I want to see better training,

smarter working, yes, and higher pay I want to lead a nation

where anyone who aims high Our political guru Norman Smith

is in Westminster, where Andrea Leadsom

is launching her campaign What else has she had to say? I

think she sees herself as the sunny side up candidate, don't worry about

it, guys, life is going to carry on, we are the fifth biggest economy,

people will still want to trade with us. GDP, she predict it, would keep

on going up. Time to end austerity, talk about prosperity. Trying to put

an up the message on the aftermath of the referendum. In terms of

nitty-gritty, I have to say, we got pretty much nothing. The only things

we got were, she reaffirmed her commitment to say to EU migrants,

you're OK, you can stay, contrasting with what Theresa May has said. And

saying to farmers, don't worry, you will still get the same amount of

money as you get through the common Agricultural Policy. I think the

difficulty with it was this. She is by and large and unknown. Most

people do not know much about her at all. If this was her presenting who

she wasn't she was about, then, crikey, it was a bit of a short

presentation. We only got about 4.5 minutes and there were no questions

or anything. So if you want to set out your vision and tell the public

what you're about, it struck me as a bit of a missed opportunity. That's

interesting. So, what next in this Tory leadership and British Prime

Minister race? Well, I mean, I'm thinking she probably will go

through to the final briefs, which will be decided tonight. And then

you will have a ballot of party members. The reason I say that is

their seems to be a real stop Andrea Leadsom campaign building up. There

has been stuff floating around about her CV, suggestions that she has got

ties to Ukip, she has been hammered for not publishing her tax returns.

But above all come last night, we actually got proof that there are

moves to try and get some of Theresa May's many, many supporters to vote

for Michael Gove, to make sure that Andrea Leadsom does not get onto the

final ballot. That is being done not by Theresa May supporters, but by

Michael Gove's, who has texted about a dozen of his pals last night, who

were voting for Theresa May, to say, please don't vote for Andrea

Leadsom, because if it goes to a vote of party members, she could

win, just like Iain Duncan Smith did. So there is lots of party

tricks going on. Norman Smith, thank you.

There's a shortage of nurses in the NHS in England and Wales

according to a report published in the last few minutes.

On top of that, the Institute for Employment Studies says 1 in 3

nurses are set to retire in the next 10 years, causing

Today's research also shows the NHS is heavily reliant on nurses from EU

countries like Spain, Portugal and Ireland.

Here alongside me is the Chief Executive of the Royal College

of Nursing, Janet Davies, and in Southampton is Jane Ball,

who is a former nurse and now researcher specialising in NHS

staffing at the University of Southampton.

Welcome to the programme. How short are we of nurses? We know we are

significantly short. Our estimate was about 20,000 nurses at our last

count, short of nurses, across the country. Wow! Out of how many nurses

in total? Thousands of nurses. But it is significant in many areas, and

we know that it is across the country, it is no longer in pockets.

This report shows that it is common in England and Wales, it is not just

specifics like London, which we know always has a problem. But we need

another 20,000 nurses to be up to capacity? Yes, for safe staffing

levels. And this is in all levels, not just in the hospitals, it is

community settings, nursing homes, everywhere where nursing care is

provided. Jane, is it as bad as that? Yes, I would say it is. The

last count of vacancies suggested that something like one in ten

nursing posts are vacant. So we are running 10% below the capacity that

we should have. Janet, why are we short? There is a number of reasons.

Firstly there has been a failure to plan for the number of nurses we

need with the ageing workforce across all sectors of health care.

Nurses can work in hospitals, communities, the independent set and

in an increasing number of nursing homes. Also there has been some very

short-term decisions made in the past. When they have been short of

money, trying to balance the books, organisations have not only cut the

number of posts to a dangerous level, but also reduce the number of

commissions for nurse training places, fearing that they will not

need them in the future, when of course, three years later, we are

finding ourselves short of nurses. So that failure to see the

long-term. What are the barriers to people training as a nurse and

qualifying? I think that is the sad thing, actually. There is plenty of

appetite out there for people to become nurses and in fact we turn

away 30,000 people each year, because the demand to go into

nursing far outstrips our ability and the funding we have to actually

trying people. So there's lots of opportunity to get into nursing and

lots of desire, but we have not been funding enough. We know we need more

but we have not commissioned enough nursing places to meet that need.

Would you agree with that? Absolutely, yes. . What about the

fact that so many are going to retire in the next ten years? What

about the fact that we voted to leave the EU, will that have an

impact on nurses coming from the rest of Europe? Absolutely, it might

do. It might do? We don't know yet what is going to happen post-Brexit.

But obviously if we have not got freedom of movement and we are not

able to bring nurses in, as quickly as we can across Europe, because we

have mutual recognition of qualifications across Europe, then

it will affect it. But obviously we do not know if that will be the case

yet. One in three due to retire in the next ten years, plus the vote to

leave the EU- what impact will it have, do you think? I I think the

combination of these things is all pointing to a bad situation getting

worse. So we know we have not got in -- enough nurses now, and that can

only get more difficult, unless we start increasing the number of

registered nurses that we train ourselves. Using international

recruits has been a quick fix, but it's not a solution. With 83% of the

nurses coming in coming from EU countries, we can't carry on

thinking that this is a cost-effective way of solving our

problems. Thank you both of much, both of you. Still to come, it was a

game too far. That's what Chris Coleman said last night, as Wales

bowed out what Euro 2016. We will speak to more of their fans.

On February 15th, 2003, 30 million people gathered in 800

cities around the world to protest against the impending Iraq War.

Most of us will remember the scenes - streets packed with people

of all ages, nationalities and a few famous faces.

To this day, the Stop The War protests still remain

the largest recorded mass protest in our history.

But despite the public outcry, the war still went ahead.

Omid Djalili, the comedian and actor, was so moved by what happened

that day he made a film about it called We Are Many.

Before we speak to him, let's first take a look at a clip.

Everybody in the world has a chance today to say no, absolutely no, to

war on Iraq! There was this real desire, come on, Tony Blair, listen.

You have to listen, you can't ignore this many people. Blair went up to

Scotland to speak at the Scottish Labour Party conference. His speech

is greeted with stony silence - something that never, ever happens.

As you watch your TV pictures of the march, just ponder this. If there

are 500,000 on the march, that is still less than the number of people

whose death Saddam Hussein has been responsible for. If there are 1

billion, that is still less than the number of people that died in the

wars that he started. We are starting something really big, and

our first task is peace in Iraq. Ridding the world of Saddam would be

an act of unity. It is leaving him there that is inhumane. We must not

stop until we have achieved the object of that brings as all to Hyde

Park this afternoon. So why did international public

outcry not make any difference And what have lessons been

learnt by politicans? Welcome to the programme. Why did it

not make any difference? We believe it did make a huge difference. At

the time it didn't. I was one of those people who did not go on the

march, I did not believe it would make any difference. Even though

there were 30 million people worldwide, and we did not know that

at the time, I thought 100 people could march and it would not make a

single bit of difference. But the legacy of that particular much, we

show in the film that really the Arab Spring was very much influenced

by that, the decision not to go to war in Syria, people remembering ten

years before. So actually the reason nothing happened at the time is

because we all felt helpless. People thought we could do one

demonstration and nothing followed up from it. That's why it fell

apart. You say you were not involved, but having made the film

and look at this in depth, do you think people did think that by going

on the streets, it would stop the invasion of Iraq? I think they did.

It is really interesting, those 30 million people, how did they know

that the war was wrong, and a lot of us thought at the time, we have got

to remove Saddam? I think people could feel that there had to be some

kind of reaction after 9/11. People have discussed this even before -

what has Saddam Hussein got to do with Al-Qaeda? There was a reaction

after 9/11 - troops went into Afghanistan. The Chilcot Report

seems to conclude that future wars, we need to take more care. What a

paradox, we need a caring war. Like wars should be more soft and

compassionate. I think people just did not want a war. I think the body

of humanity is like a human body. If you stub your toe, the furthest part

away from your head, you're going to want that pain to go away. Those

demonstrations, it was middle England, people with pushchairs and

families, they knew that there would be so much damage, people were going

to die, and they didn't want that to happen. That's why they chanted, not

in our name. OK, you're going to do what you want but don't do it on

behalf of the people. That's why the people were so upset. The wisdom of

the crowd. I don't know if you saw any of Tony Blair yesterday's or

heard him on the radio this morning, but hit if it every pleaded with

people to put themselves in his position as Prime Minister of a

country. -- but he effectively pleaded. One year on from 9/11,

looking at the intelligence, thinking, there might be a 9/11 in

Britain. We all knew Saddam Hussein was dangerous, and he had to make a

decision. It may have been the wrong decision, in many people's eyes, but

his job was to make that decision - do you accept what he said?

He did what he thought was right. It is not for me to say anything about

Tony Blair, we are just film-makers. Our film is a historical document of

what happened. Tony Blair has said even today, I thought we should back

the Americans, but we should do it through the United Nations Security

Council. In the film, there is an important moment when Lord Goldsmith

has written a letter saying the invasion of Iraq cannot happen

without a further Security Council consultations. And on that piece of

paper, there is a scribble on the side that says, I don't understand

this. And that is Tony Blair who has written it. So whatever Tony Blair

thinks he is doing, it's not for me to say, but I don't think he

believed the United Nations was something they had to consult with.

Stephen Powell 's was on here yesterday, an international criminal

lawyer, who said that if you look at international law, that war was

illegal. But if you go ahead without a further Security Council

resolution, you are not going with the International Criminal Court,

you are not going with international law. So when Kofi and an set, --

Kofi Annan said, was this an illegal war, and he said, if you wish, yes.

That is why people were upset by it and they said, not in my name. Since

then, we have seen all sorts of protests in this country. Not on

that scale, but you could argue that perhaps decisions being taken were

not as enormous as that. I wonder if the fact that so many turned out

back then on February the 15th, 2003... 800,000. We had no idea of

the scale of it. I did an advert with John Prescott, so I remained

friends with him. He was Deputy Prime Minister. He saw the film and

rang me up and said, I had no idea of the scale of it. Had we known of

the sheer scale of that and that it was global, maybe we would have gone

a different way. Now, you cannot ignore that many people. In the

film, we are showing that there is a second superpower that is developing

in the world right now. And that is global public opinion. We ignore

that at our peril. Things like Twitter, an individual can make a

difference. When James Foley was beheaded by what was then called

Islamic State, I remember thinking, which Islamic State? And went on my

mum thought, OK, these are terrorists. And I wrote a tweet

saying, dear BBC, please refer to the group as a group calling

themselves Islamic State, because no Islamic State would do this. It got

several re-tweets and then someone said, you have done it. The BBC an

now calling them the group that calls itself Islamic State. We have

the power where one individual can change something. What is this

relationship now between individuals and community and institutions?

Before, the mass of humanity were saying, this is an illegal war, we

don't want people to die, and the institutions ignored them. How can

we redress that balance? Do you have a view about the next generation of

protesters? They saw what happened with that protest in 2003. They

happened in 800 cities around the world. Does that have an impact? It

had a huge impact. When the vote went to Parliament, one of the

things we show in the film, the vote over whether to invade Syria, that

was in 2030. People remembered what happened in 2003 -- that was in

2013. David Cameron said, I get that people do not want to take us to war

and we will act accordingly. Whether that was the right decision or not,

I want to say as to make is that we do not believe in total people

power, because recently on who was to be a millionaire, they asked the

audience on the question was, who played the lead role in the film

Doctor Zhivago, and 60% said it was Linford Christie! So you don't

listen to everything the public say. The crowds are not always so wise.

Where can people see your film? It is in cinemas right now and will be

available for digital download from the 18th of July. Thank you very

much. The great Wales adventure

at Euro 2016 is over after they were beaten 2-0

by Portugal in the For the fans, there was of course

disappointment, but a huge sense of pride in a team that defied

the odds to reach the last four Let's take a look at

how they got there. Ramsey, weaving through to Bale,

surely this time! Bale with another

wicked delivery, and it is turned into his own net

by the unfortunate Gareth McAuley. That man, Gareth Bale,

with a fantastic Unfortunate to get the own goal,

but I'm just going to say this. Wales are in the quarterfinals

of the Ashley Williams Heather. Belgium

one, Wales one. What I term, what a goal! -- what a turn.

In towards Vokes! Something special is happening here tonight! Wales are

going into the semifinals! What a ball, what a header!

If you work hard enough and you are not afraid to dream and you're not

afraid to fail, everybody fails. I've had more failures than I've had

success, but I'm not afraid to fail. I'm enjoying it, and I think we

deserve it. Cristiano Ronaldo! It is 2-0!

Disappointed, to put it lightly. But we have got to learn from it. I am

very proud of the team. They couldn't have given any more. I

always say to them, if you have given everything you've got and you

come up short, so what? That is it. They gave what they had. It was just

want to far for us tonight. I feel emotional, and I am English!

Let's be to Professor Laura McAllister, chair of sport Wales, in

Cardiff. And a father and son who were in Lyon, where they watched the

game last night. I hope you can both hear me. How are you feeling this

morning? Both feeling pretty bereft, really. Reaching the semifinals was

a fantastic achievement. You have the next bit comes along and it

hasn't. Despite everything those heroes have done for their country,

I am feeling empty. I will get over it. There is a homecoming tomorrow

and I hope that will be cathartic from my point of view. And then

normal life will resume. I am a little bit disappointed, but not

hugely. Our country reached the semifinal of a major tournament. A

few years ago, that felt impossible. Coleman has done a great job, and

Gary speed as well. It is well-deserved. And they deserved to

be in this position. It didn't happen that night, but it has been

an unbelievable journey. I can't wait for Moldova at home now. Laura,

I wonder what kind of example this will give to young boys and girls

who want to play football? I think it's going to be a fabulous

inspiration to them, and all credit to the players and squad and the

fans. We have been a United team, with the players as close to the

fans as the fans are to the players. They have been wonderful role models

for girls and boys who want to take up football. We couldn't have asked

for more from them. But the important thing is not just to

inspire the children who can be good at football, it is to inspire

everybody, young and old, whatever their background, to take up some