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Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire - | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
This morning, the country has a new Conservative leader | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
and by tomorrow evening a new Prime Minister. | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
She is 59-year-old Theresa May, daughter of a vicar, | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
MP for 19 years, Home Secretary for six years, whose desert | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
island luxury would be a subscription to Vogue magazine. | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
We are going to give people more control over their lives, | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
and that is how, together, we will build a better Britain. | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
This morning we're at Westminster, where we'll be talking | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
to her friends, her colleagues and her critics. | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
Plus we'll talk to those who count - you, the voters, the people who'll | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
I'm Rachel, I think Theresa May's strong leadership is what the poetry | :00:51. | :01:04. | |
and country needs. I have reservations, it is a big job and I | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
would like to know how she will do it. Her colleagues were gushing | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
yesterday and I hope it is all true. In half-an-hour David Cameron | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
will chair has last ever Cabinet meeting as Prime Minister - | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
Norman Smith is there. We'll Theresa May keep or call the | :01:21. | :01:27. | |
Tory big beasts as she scrambles to shape her new Government in just 48 | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
hours? The clock is ticking. Good morning, and good morning to | :01:31. | :01:51. | |
our voters who have joined us here, thank you for giving up your time | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
today to talk about some really important stuff this morning. | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
Britain has a new Prime Minister - Theresa May officially takes over | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
This morning we're in Westminster, outside the Houses of Parliament, | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
where we'll be keeping you up to date with all the developments, | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
talking to those who know Theresa May and her critics. | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
And throughout the programme we're joined by an audience of voters. | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
The people who will be affected by any decisions Theresa May makes in | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
the future. David Cameron will chair his | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
last-ever Cabinet meeting today. In a moment we'll talk to three | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
of those who'll be there, but first this is | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
Theresa May's story. We have got a hand that has | :02:28. | :02:28. | |
been up for ages, Roger. Would you like to see a woman Prime | :02:29. | :02:31. | |
Minister? I think it depends | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
upon who the person is, I don't think there will be a woman | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
Prime Minister in my lifetime. I grew up the daughter of | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
a local vicar and the granddaughter Public service has been | :02:48. | :03:01. | |
a part of who I am for I think what the people | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
in Maidenhead are looking for is who will be the best | :03:06. | :03:38. | |
constituency Member of Parliament and obviously I think they have made | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
the right choice tonight. One of the most dangerous | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
human emotions is Today, the world is not a safer | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
place, it is a more uncertain place, There is a lot we need to do | :03:49. | :03:56. | |
in this party of ours. Our base is too narrow, | :03:57. | :04:25. | |
and so occasionally I know that is unfair, | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
you know that's unfair, but it is the people out | :04:28. | :04:38. | |
there that we need to convince. If you do not change | :04:39. | :05:05. | |
of your own accord, I am honoured and humbled to have | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
been chosen by the Conservative Brexit means Brexit, | :05:08. | :05:35. | |
and we are going to Second, we need to unite our | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
country, and third, we need a strong, new positive vision | :05:42. | :05:49. | |
for the future of our country, a vision of a country that works not | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
for the privileged few but that works for every one of us | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
because we are going to give people That is how, together, | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
we will build a better Britain. That is the Theresa May story so | :06:03. | :06:20. | |
far. Do get in touch and | :06:21. | :06:27. | |
tell us your thoughts There is so much we still do not | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
know about her. Let's talk to three Conservative MPs | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
who will be going to David Cameron's final Cabinet meeting - | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
the top table of ministers. Robert Halfon, who's | :06:40. | :06:41. | |
a Minister without Portfolio - he helps with the Government's | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
decision-making processes. David Mundell, Secretary | :06:44. | :06:44. | |
of State for Scotland. And Alun Cairns, the Secretary | :06:45. | :06:46. | |
of State for Wales. The last Cabinet meeting chaired by | :06:47. | :06:55. | |
David Cameron, Theresa May, Prime Minister in waiting, sitting around | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
the table, what will the atmosphere be like? It will be incredibly | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
moving and emotional, David Cameron has been a good Prime Minister, | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
doctors out of a tricky economic situation and created a lot of jobs, | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
and everybody will be sad to see a good Prime Minister leave. I think | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
we all want to express gratitude to David Cameron, six difficult years | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
with the coalition but keeping the country together, making sure we got | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
the economy turned around, winning a general election for the | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
Conservatives with a majority, we have all got to the grateful to him | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
for that. But I think he will be very pleased that he is being | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
succeeded by someone he believes will be competent to take on this | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
great office and move the country forward. Will it be awkward in | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
their? I don't think so, there will be a lot of warm up for the Prime | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
Minister, recognition for what he has achieved. Remember where he took | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
the party from, Douglas back into Government, coalition first and then | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
back into Government with the economic changes that we have seen, | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
and I think there will be a lot of | :07:56. | :08:14. | |
optimism because we are moving to the next phase of governance under a | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
new Prime Minister. Theresa May knows everybody around the Cabinet | :08:18. | :08:19. | |
table exceptionally well because she has been there from the outset and | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
has seen people come and go. She will want to put her stamp on the | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
next Government. Is this meeting really you saying thank you and | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
goodbye to your old boss? There is a job to do, there is a full Cabinet | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
agenda that we will discuss, a range of issues. What is the point, the | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
new woman takes over tomorrow! The job of Government does not stop, it | :08:34. | :08:35. | |
has been ongoing throughout this uncertain period... Barely! Not at | :08:36. | :08:44. | |
all! The important thing gives, we are about to have a good Prime | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
Minister, she is a remarkable woman with huge strength of character, a | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
huge worker, she will unify the party and the country and I think | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
she will safeguard the security of our country. That statement you just | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
made, a unifier of the party, the Conservative MPs are to decide that, | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
and the country. We have got some voters here, let's see what they | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
think about whether Theresa May is a unifier of the country bearing in | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
mind the journey of the country since the vote to leave the. | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
Unifier? I think she kept a low enough profile during the referendum | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
debate that she can be a unifier but it depends what team she brings in | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
with her. Let's move that along, unifier? I'm not convinced, it is a | :09:32. | :09:39. | |
big job. How is she going to do it? Can she really sway from in, out, | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
out, in? Can she? I'm not convinced. As a low-key Remainer, can she take | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
Britain out of the U? I think Theresa May is a career politician | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
and I think during the referendum this is what she was playing for. | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
She was, first of all, muttering that she was for leave, and suddenly | :10:04. | :10:11. | |
she was for Remain, and coming up to the referendum we did not hear from | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
her at all. She did make one or two speeches. The important thing is she | :10:16. | :10:22. | |
is going to appoint a senior Brexiteer in her Cabinet to manage | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
the withdrawal from the European Union. Would you imagine that a | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
bidder currently do the House of Commons, Chris Grayling? Who knows | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
who it is going to be? Boris Johnson?! Who knows. But it is about | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
compassionate conservatism, she said she wants to attack crony | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
capitalism, make sure working people are protected from being thrown on | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
the scrapheap. She sounded like a Labour Leader at that point, don't | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
you think? She sounded like Theresa May, the compassionate Conservative | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
I know her to be. It would have been easy for her yesterday to move to | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
the right in order to appeal to the Tory grassroots, which, if we are | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
honest, hard to the right of the party. She could have handed to them | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
but she didn't, she made a mainstream speech, focused on one | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
nation conservatism, making the economy work forward ordinary | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
people, rather than pandering to what would have been an easy | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
short-term win but a long-term defeat. There has not been a | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
Conservative leadership contest in the end so we have not had much time | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
to scrutinise her views, for example, on the economy. She talked | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
yesterday about wanting to make an economy that works for everyone, | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
that is going to be so hard because it depends on growth, which depends | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
on Brexit, which in the short-term could hurt? She is not denying this | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
could be a tough job, she did not take it on because it will be an | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
easy ride, she has been offered that there are significant challenges | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
ahead but she has committed to Brexit, and she will deliver that. | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
But what does Brexit mean? She is looking to get the best possible | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
deal for the UK and I think she is able to negotiate that, able to deal | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
with Angela Merkel, to carve out for Britain a new role in the world | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
because that will be very important in terms of trade and the economy. | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
But she is not somebody going into this with her eyes closed, her eyes | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
are wide open in relation to the challenges, and she is somebody up | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
to that scale of challenge. This will be, her Government, will be a | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
Government with the aspiration to create jobs and sort out the economy | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
but also being compassionate on welfare, helping with mental health. | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
She has bought in a law to strengthen domestic silence... She | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
has done a lot in terms of domestic abuse, bringing in the corrosive | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
control legislation is, but she also voted for every measure in the last | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
six years which you would say was important for reducing the deficit | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
which had a massive impact on the lives of some of the most honourable | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
people in our country so to suddenly hear this compassion given -- | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
compassionate conservatism might ring hollow. If we had not tackled | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
the deficit over the last six years the country would be in a more | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
difficult place, nobody denied some of the decisions taken were tough | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
decisions but they were taken in order to turn round the economy. I | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
think that we now understand, particularly as we are going to go | :13:22. | :13:28. | |
through the Jews around Brexit, that we have to loosen the financial | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
tightening... She has already said that. So we are going to move | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
forward on that. You have talked about a good leader, confident, what | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
is she like as a person? Do you remember the time when she was | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
Conservative Party chairman? She would have toured the party, length | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
and breadth, and could be a very funny after-dinner speaker. She can | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
be focused but warm as well and I think she has got so many skills and | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
will appeal to so many different people, and I feel we can be | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
optimistic about this, we are moving to the next stage and we have a | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
leader fitting of the role. Most of us will not have seen that warmth, | :14:09. | :14:21. | |
is that true, is she a warm person, does it matter? She is tough, we | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
want a tough Prime Minister, but she is compassionate as well. A few | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
years ago we had a horrific incidents of domestic violence in my | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
constituency where a young girl and boy were beaten to death and Theresa | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
May. Involved Posthumus lead to help the family, which she did not have | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
to do because the Home Office said they could not help, she went | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
against the advice of her junior ministers, she has compassion and | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
stands up for things when it counts. Thank you all very much. The last | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
cabinet meeting, it is about 9:15am... We will have to run! Thank | :14:48. | :14:54. | |
you for your time. Let's hear more from our voters. Do | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
you believe she is warm? Does it matter? I wish my friends would talk | :14:59. | :15:06. | |
about me like that! I am a bit worried about all of the talk of | :15:07. | :15:08. | |
including everybody because it seems Fallon? Mr Grayling, are you going | :15:09. | :19:06. | |
to be the Brexit Minister? Are you going to handle the Brexit | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
negotiations? That is Chris Grayling, he may be the man charged | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
with handling Brexit, it is Theresa May said she will create a specific | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
post for somebody to handle everything. There is such a jagged. | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
Will you still be in the Government, do you think? That has to be in the | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
back of the mind of all these ministers, a lot of them are sitting | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
around the Cabinet table, but maybe it will be goodbye, good night, no | :19:38. | :19:45. | |
more. This is Theresa May's moment of maximum power, she comes in with | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
the vote from MPs, she has got a clean slate, she can do what she | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
wants. If she wants to clear out a load of people, this is the moment. | :19:54. | :20:01. | |
As far as I can work out, she has not necessarily promised certain | :20:02. | :20:03. | |
roles to certain people in the last week or so when it was clear she was | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
putting herself forward for leadership. I think that is a good | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
point. When the contest was under way, there were talks about Boris | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
Johnson trying to meet her to do a deal, and when he phoned up her | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
people, the one word that kept coming back was, she does not do | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
deals. She did not want to meet him or offer a compromise. | :20:27. | :20:46. | |
and shape the success or otherwise of her premiership. It is a moment | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
of change, but everything we know about her is she is not flashy, she | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
does not go in for big gestures. Patrick MacLachlan winding his way | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
in. A question about whether the Heathrow decision might be | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
accelerated, there was the logjam because of Boris Johnson brooding | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
over the whole thing. There has been talk about how we need to give a big | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
message that we are open for business, and the Heathrow decision | :21:13. | :21:20. | |
might get fast tracked. That is Liz truss just going in, she was a | :21:21. | :21:29. | |
prominent supporter of Remain. Who knows what will happen. Can I ask | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
about the Chancellor? The thinking is Theresa May | :21:33. | :21:49. | |
yesterday set out a big pitch, she talked about the need for big | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
economic reform, she said the Government had done plenty on social | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
reform, but enough on fundamental economic reform. It was seen as a | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
criticism of the Chancellor. And he has been there a long time, he has | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
had a rough time in recent budgets. You think of the rumpus over tax | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
credits, over disability benefits. He has had to throw away his deficit | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
reduction plans, he said forget having a surplus by 2020. Theresa | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
May may decide, time is up. Who would step into the hot seat? A lot | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
of people think it could be Philip Hammond, he has a money background, | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
he could move there, and George Osborne could move to the Foreign | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
Office. Back with you very shortly, as people arrived. Waiting for | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
Theresa May, to attend David Cameron's last Cabinet meeting. | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
She said it was important that there were some prominent Leavers in the | :22:46. | :22:56. | |
Cabinet. Is it important for other people as well? I think we need to | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
find out who she will have in her Cabinet about -- before we decide | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
what sort of Prime Minister she will be. Whether she will be in the | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
centre or a traditional Conservative. I think she will be a | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
second Margaret Thatcher. Some of her policies on immigration, voting | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
for Syrian air strikes, but against bringing Syrian children here, | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
tuition fees, I am scared and sceptical. But I will wait to see | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
who she has in her Cabinet. She will have a lot of work to do. She will | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
have to be strong, stronger than Margaret Thatcher. Is that possible? | :23:43. | :23:50. | |
It may be. There should not be an election now, it would divide the | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
country more. She should get some help from the Conservative Party. | :23:56. | :24:04. | |
She should unify the country. Introduce yourselves, your name, | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
where you were from, what you would normally be doing, so our audience | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
have an idea about you and your life. Harvey. What do you do? I am a | :24:15. | :24:24. | |
student Aboriginal University. You don't look like a student! I am | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
going to an award ceremony after this! Theresa May is well-placed to | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
unify country. On the Remain side, we cannot discount a lot of people | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
voted Remain, and if it was a Brexiter, we could have seen a | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
skewed outcome. By being a Remainer, she can pull the country with her. | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
There are things that both sides want to see, certain things about | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
migration, whether it turns to free movement of workers as opposed to | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
people, those kind of questions need to be asked, everybody needs to be | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
taken with them, the country, the Cabinet. Are you a Conservative | :25:07. | :25:14. | |
supporter? I am, yes. Why did you say it like that? I am a proud | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
Conservative voter, bigoted idiots have got an excellent record. -- the | :25:19. | :25:26. | |
Conservatives have got an excellent record. I voted Leave, Britain is | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
well placed in the world to make those trade deals. Democracy comes | :25:32. | :25:40. | |
to the heart of it, the EU is not democratic, so many people have | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
fought for democracy, we can not be part of an organisation that refuses | :25:44. | :25:51. | |
to reform. Good morning. I am a speech writer for an MP and a | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
technology headhunter. That is a heck of a combination! Interesting! | :25:56. | :26:03. | |
Different days of the week! Brexit means Brexit, there has been talk | :26:04. | :26:11. | |
about needing a Brexiteer. There is a firm line there will be no Rene | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
Krhin by the Tory Government on this. People who think you want a | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
Brexit to negotiate Brexiter will be disappointed, because every Brexiter | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
has a different idea of what it is. Teresa may have the mandate, and she | :26:29. | :26:36. | |
will have clear leadership. She has unify the Tory party, she is yet to | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
unify Northern Ireland and Scotland. That might be impossible. We will | :26:41. | :26:55. | |
see. Hello. You want Brexiteers and Remainers in her team. She has got | :26:56. | :26:58. | |
to think about calling an election. Perhaps next year. But at about a | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
mandate, I don't think she has a mandate. Would that bring another | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
layer of uncertainty? But it's what we don't want. It does not lead to | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
economic stability or growth, and that is what we need. The | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
Conservative Party were voted in on a manifesto, it was David Cameron's | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
mandate, it has transferred to Theresa May. Unless she departs from | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
it, she retains the mandate. There is political exhaustion in this | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
country after a general election last year, two referendums in recent | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
memory, we don't need more turmoil and exhaustion. We will talk about | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
whether there should be a general election later. Hold it! Pause! | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
Don't peak too soon! We will come back to that conversation. A couple | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
of comments from you. I believe Theresa May, says John, will be a | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
super Prime Minister, at certain times leaders have come along and | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
grab the bat on, and she will be one of those. Phillips says, she is the | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
most right wing prime ministers since Margaret Thatcher. | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
Philip Hammond moving in, are you moving to the Treasury? Are you | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
taking over from George Osborne? Philip Hammond heading in, we still | :28:18. | :28:23. | |
waiting Theresa May. What's the betting she rides last to make an | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
impact? We have most of the Cabinet in, Michael Gove one of the early | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
ones. We will not see the Chancellor going in that door. We have got most | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
of the main players, still no sight of Theresa May. We are told this | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
final Cabinet will kick off with David Cameron making a few | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
valedictory remarks, he will reflect on his time as Prime Minister. Quite | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
a poignant moment, especially when you reflect that only a year ago he | :28:55. | :29:01. | |
won what too many people was a surprise general election, he pulled | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
his party out of the mouths of a possible hung parliament and | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
delivered a general election. There is David Mundell, the Scottish | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
secretary. Ideological to promotion? Been promised anything? I don't | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
think anybody will have been promised anything. Steve, stay on | :29:20. | :29:28. | |
this car here, please. Maybe it is Theresa May. There we go. Morning. | :29:29. | :29:40. | |
Are you ready for this? Are you up to the task? | :29:41. | :29:47. | |
No words for we humble hacks! That tells us something about the way she | :29:48. | :30:07. | |
may be different from David Cameron, she will probably be much less media | :30:08. | :30:14. | |
focused. She has never been one to pass on titbits to journalists, she | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
is more restrained. And in terms of her Government generally there will | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
be much less of a media focus, a chasing of headlines, than we saw in | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
the Tony Blair years and which David Cameron picked up on. A different | :30:28. | :30:37. | |
approach, a more small C Conservative, restrained approach. | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
Bearing in mind that is the last time she will have to walk in the | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
front door for Cabinet, because from tomorrow she will be living above | :30:46. | :30:46. | |
the shop. We will be back with you soon, | :30:47. | :30:55. | |
Norman. One viewer says, we need a woman's | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
touch. Another says, her gender and age are irrelevant. Another tweet | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
says, it is the democratic choice to vote on the EU and whether we stay | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
in or not but not to choose our leader? I am confused! | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
We will talk more about that with our voters throughout the morning. | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
We are live from Westminster this morning as David Cameron chairs his | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
final Cabinet beating as Prime Minister and as Theresa May goes in | :31:21. | :31:22. | |
for the last time as Home Secretary. Here's Joanna with a | :31:23. | :31:24. | |
summary of today's news. David Cameron is holding his final | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
Cabinet meeting this Theresa May, the Prime Minister in | :31:27. | :31:38. | |
waiting, has just arrived along with other ministers at Number Ten ahead | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
of Mr Cameron tendering his resignation to the Queen tomorrow, | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
leaving Mrs May, Home Secretary since 2010, to appoint her | :31:48. | :31:49. | |
ministerial team. A decision on whether Jeremy Corbyn | :31:50. | :31:52. | |
will be automatically included in Labour's leadership race will be | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
made by officials today. The party's National Executive | :31:56. | :31:57. | |
Committee will discuss whether he should be made to obtain | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
nominations in the same Mr Corbyn has vowed to fight any | :32:03. | :32:04. | |
exclusion from the ballot paper. New research is suggesting that | :32:05. | :32:12. | |
pregnancy multi-vitamins are a waste of money because most mothers-to-be | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
do not need them. In a review, they claim women should | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
take folic acid and vitamin D. But manufacturers say | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
that the study, which is published in the Drug And Therapeutics | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
Bulletin, doesn't take More than 1000 people have attended | :32:29. | :32:30. | |
a candlelight vigil in Dallas for the five police officers | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
who were killed during The gunman's parents have spoken | :32:35. | :32:36. | |
to the online news website The Blaze, saying their son | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
was changed by his experience Later today, President Obama | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
will speak at a memorial service, and a private funeral for the police | :32:44. | :32:49. | |
will be held on Friday. More than 8000 primary | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
schools in England - half the total number - | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
are to receive extra funding to adopt the South Asian | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
style of teaching maths. Known as Maths Mastery, | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
the technique relies on whole class International tests suggest that | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
Chinese pupils taught this way have a far higher level | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
of achievement than their Shares of Nintendo has sold more | :33:10. | :33:23. | |
than 10% in total fuelled by the craze for Pokemon Go, a smartphone | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
game based on the video game characters that has become the top | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
grossing app in the iPhone store less than a week after its release. | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
The augmented reality game layers gameplay onto the physical world, | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
letting players wonder the physical world in search of digital monsters. | :33:41. | :33:42. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
One of Sam Allardyce's old bosses says he would not hesitate to | :33:45. | :33:59. | |
recommend Big Sam for the England job. The Sunderland boss left the | :34:00. | :34:11. | |
club's pre-season training camp in Austria, on transfer business, | :34:12. | :34:12. | |
apparently. Jordan Spieth won't be competing | :34:13. | :34:14. | |
in this summer's Olympics. That means none of the world's top | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
four golfers will be in Rio. Spieth becomes the latest | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
to pull because of concerns Open champion Zach Johnson says a | :34:20. | :34:28. | |
busy schedule is also part of the reason. | :34:29. | :34:30. | |
The six-time Olympic champion is in the Jamaican team | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
despite pulling out of their trials with an injury. | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
He plans to prove his fitness at the Anniversary Games | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
in London later this month, the scene of his 2012 triumphs. | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
And Mercedes have withdrawn their appeal over | :34:43. | :34:44. | |
Nico Rosberg's ten-second penalty at Sunday's British Grand Prix. | :34:45. | :34:50. | |
He was demoted to third place overall. | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
Rosberg was penalised after team-radio instructions | :34:54. | :34:54. | |
were judged to have given him too much guidance. | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
More on those stories later on, but now back to Victoria at Westminster. | :35:01. | :35:09. | |
That Cabinet meeting chaired by David Cameron as Prime Minister for | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
the last time, if they were on time, started about five minutes ago. I | :35:14. | :35:15. | |
would love to be a fly on the wall. This morning we're at the heart | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
of Westminster, just outside the House of Commons, | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
up the road from Downing Street, And Theresa May is in that Cabinet | :35:21. | :35:34. | |
meeting as Home Secretary for the last time. She has been Home | :35:35. | :35:42. | |
Secretary for six years, she is 59 years old, the daughter of a vicar, | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
she has an image for being unflappable and it is known that she | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
has wanted to be Prime Minister for a while. How much do we know about | :35:50. | :35:51. | |
her? In a moment we'll talk | :35:52. | :35:52. | |
to two friends, but first, Let's talk now to Baroness Anne | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
Jenkin, who is a colleague She founded the Conservative group | :35:56. | :37:15. | |
Women2Win with Mrs May in 2005 to address the need to elect more | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
Conservative women to Parliament, and Sam Olsen, who managed her 2005 | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
campaign for re-election. Welcome Bob W. What sort of a | :37:27. | :37:40. | |
womanish? -- welcome both be. She is a serious, hard-working, capable | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
woman, just what we want as Prime Minister. I have many anecdotes | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
about her, I know her well, I have had many lunches with her, I would | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
never gossip about her, I would get a hard stare from her if I tried. | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
She does not do chat about the Westminster village, who is in or | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
out, she takes like seriously. Would she have had a glass of champagne | :38:01. | :38:04. | |
with her husband last night to celebrate that she will be Britain's | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
next Prime Minister? I doubt it would be champagne, I think a glass | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
of water, keep calm and carry on. Sam may know better because he has | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
been her campaign manager and celebrated with her after she has | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
won elections, I have celebrated with her for getting more women in | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
parliament, but she is not a great drinker. She is not a great drinker | :38:25. | :38:32. | |
but that does not detract from her, she is an incredible and outstanding | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
woman, someone I really think will be a great leader. But the cool, | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
calm exterior, perhaps someone that does not enjoy a party as much as | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
some other people, does not mean she will be a bad brand minister, | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
perhaps the opposite. What we need now is that cool, calm exterior but | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
someone with an incredible warm, kind and generous spirit. How has | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
that manifested itself in the time you have no her? She is very, very | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
keen to look after people, she would hate me for saying it but almost | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
like a mother hen. My own son, when we went round there before we moved | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
to Hong Kong, she was looking after him, playing with him in a very | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
motherly way, but also when you go out to the constituents she takes an | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
active interest in making sure that people are doing well, looking after | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
their issues, and you saw yesterday with her speech about a more | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
inclusive Britain, that is, as far as I'm concerned, coming from her | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
heart because it is the method I heard every single day, how do we | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
make Britain better and look after people better? Almost too good to be | :39:38. | :39:45. | |
true, possibly? I certainly cannot tell you any nasty stories about her | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
because I don't know any and haven't heard any in the Westminster | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
village. What I was touched by yesterday, I had a tweet from a | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
woman saying, I have a letter she wrote to me in 2006 saying, keep | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
going, we will find a way to get you in. Her support for women in | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
Parliament, when she was elected she was one of 13 Conservative women | :40:06. | :40:13. | |
MPs. In 1997. The same as 1931. Today we have 68, and a lot of those | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
women, especially the 2010 cohort, the 2015 women belonged to me and | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
2010 she, as Sam was saying, was the mother hen to them, always on the | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
phone to them, encouraging, supporting, keeping them going at a | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
time they might have felt disheartened or that the | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
Conservative Party was not very welcoming to more women in its | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
ranks. We have voters here who have voted for all sorts of parties and | :40:40. | :40:42. | |
voted different ways in the EU referendum. You may have questions | :40:43. | :40:45. | |
for people who know Theresa May well. At a time when we are talking | :40:46. | :40:51. | |
about Brexit, overly concerned about domestic policies and the crisis | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
going on in politics at the moment, I think we are forgetting about what | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
is Mrs May's standing going to be in the world, outside of Europe, as a | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
woman who has voted consistently for military intervention in | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, never with a plan afterwards and I | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
want to know what kind of foreign policy credentials she had and how | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
she will take the country forward in terms of our standing in the world, | :41:20. | :41:22. | |
where will we be with the hundreds of thousands of migrants crossing | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
the Mediterranean. That is a difficult question to answer because | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
we know little... We know how she has voted but in terms of her views | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
on foreign policy right now... She was not in charge of an after plan. | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
With her in charge I am confident there would be an after plan. She | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
has been in the Cabinet. But she has not been the defence or Foreign | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
Secretary, involved in foreign policy. But I can imagine her on the | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
world stage, I can imagine she would not let us down. She is a woman of | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
substance, she would want to be involved in discussions with Angela | :41:57. | :41:59. | |
Merkel, for example, I can imagine them doing business together. That | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
business with -- that picture of David Cameron doing business on a | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
lake with Angela Merkel, I can imagine, they will not be talking | :42:11. | :42:13. | |
about getting their legs waxed, they will be getting down to the serious | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
issues. A woman of substance, she promised to bring net migration down | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
to the tens of thousands but has spectacularly failed on that, so is | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
that worth bearing in mind or do we ignore that? Every politician will | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
fail on something at some point. She kept making promise! She has | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
succeeded in a great number of things, how many people succeeded in | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
getting rid of Abu Hamza? How many people have taken on the police and | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
succeeded? To your question, we don't know what will happen with | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
foreign policy so until there is a new Foreign Secretary, but with her | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
attention to detail and the fact that she understands the bigger | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
picture and wants what is best for Britain, I'm sure she will make a | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
good go of it. Introduce yourself? What do you normally do? I'm Chris, | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
I would normally be in the office in Nottingham. Everybody sings the | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
praises that she is a warm, lovely woman, which is fantastic, but she | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
has a divisive immigration record, she sent vans around the capital | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
city as in people to go home, she sent 45,000 international students | :43:21. | :43:23. | |
once they had finished their degree, so how can we believe she is that | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
warmth with this divisive policy? I think we are starting again with a | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
fresh sheet. One thing that was clear from the Brexit vote is that | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
we have got a very divided society. People are very concerned about this | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
as an issue, nobody has asked anybody in this country from when | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
the Labour Party started their mass immigration Project, is this the | :43:49. | :43:51. | |
Britain you want to live in? This is a moment to take stock, to start | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
again on immigration policy, knowing who is in this country, and she will | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
get a group of it, I'm confident about it. I am Ricciardo, University | :44:03. | :44:10. | |
of Surrey. Theresa May has proven that she has managed to unite the | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
Conservative Party, but my worry is... It is early days, let's be | :44:14. | :44:21. | |
fair! For now, at least! For today! My concern is that we have heard | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
from Aaron Banks, one of the main donors for Ukip, that if Theresa May | :44:26. | :44:31. | |
once then it would be Ukip on steroids, people disappointed that | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
Brexit is not going the way they want and it will boost support for | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
Ukip. Do you have any way to counter that narrative that Ukip will | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
suddenly rise at the expense of the Conservative Party or other | :44:45. | :44:46. | |
political parties in the current system? My own feeling is that you | :44:47. | :44:53. | |
are right, the Ukip genie is out of the bottle bit. I think that when | :44:54. | :45:00. | |
she says Brexit is Brexit, she means it, that is what people have voted | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
for, she has to deliver on that or that is where Aaron Banks and the | :45:05. | :45:10. | |
new Ukip party, whatever it will become, becomes really dangerous, | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
and she knows that, she is a grown-up politician with a lot of | :45:15. | :45:17. | |
experience, she knows the danger of not delivering, of letting people | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
down again, and I think if she does that then he will not get any | :45:23. | :45:28. | |
traction. But if not, and this is a danger more for Labour, really, in | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
their traditional heartlands, Hartlepool voted 70% out, Doncaster, | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
all these places that people feel neglected by the political class, | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
and that is why I think her out reach yesterday was so important, | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
that she was so clear she wants to change the way we do things. It will | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
be different, I hope it will be reflecting the point she made | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
yesterday. Thank you both, I am going to let you go, Sam Olsen and | :45:54. | :45:56. | |
Baroness Jenkin, thank you for telling us what you can about | :45:57. | :45:58. | |
Theresa May. Ken Clarke was doorstep earlier, he | :45:59. | :46:08. | |
was caught on Mike inadvertently describing Theresa May as a bloody | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
difficult woman, here is what he said not long ago. | :46:14. | :46:20. | |
She will take a week or two to get a team together, to get everybody's | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
head around what the negotiating position will be. 27 other | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
governments will have their position. Negotiation will be given | :46:28. | :46:35. | |
a date before we get there. I hope she can put in Article 50 after a | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
few weeks of proper preparation and then get on with the relationships | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
with the rest of Europe first, sort that out quickly, because the | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
uncertainty is very damaging. You referred to her now is a difficult | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
woman, is that the right reputation coming into what will be a difficult | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
negotiation? We need a difficult woman. I did not compare her to | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
Margaret Thatcher, I also said she was good, and I always get on with | :47:04. | :47:11. | |
her all right. She is a different politician, different from Tony | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
Blair and David Cameron. It is high time we had a tough, pragmatic | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
politician. She is her own woman. That is a good quality, if you are | :47:22. | :47:24. | |
going to be a Prime Minister at a time like this. What would be your | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
advice in terms of building a cabinet, keeping the party together? | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
I don't Incheon needs advice. My guess is she has her own strong | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
views, she will know who she wants doing what, and she also has | :47:39. | :47:48. | |
political skills. She has to have a mix of Remainers and Leavers. Her | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
party is divided, she has a tiny majority, which is not big enough to | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
do anything difficult over the next four years, unless you are very | :47:58. | :48:05. | |
careful. Political skill, she has to put together a cabinet that covers | :48:06. | :48:11. | |
the opinion's the spectrum of serious opinion, but you will put | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
her own people in. We don't want another circus with another general | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
election, arguing over the personalities. I can give you | :48:21. | :48:24. | |
countless examples of prime ministers who become Prime Minister | :48:25. | :48:26. | |
because they have got a firm elected Parliamentary majority. He don't | :48:27. | :48:34. | |
have to have a general election. Sections of the media so enjoyed the | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
ridiculous and terrible referendum campaign, they look forward to | :48:40. | :48:42. | |
another three or four weeks of the same mayhem. No, Theresa May has a | :48:43. | :48:49. | |
job to do, she will do it in her own way, and she has got to get back to | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
governing a sophisticated, modern country, which is in something of a | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
crisis. Things will get worse if we don't get somebody taking cold of | :49:01. | :49:01. | |
the reins. Ken Clarke talking about that | :49:02. | :49:13. | |
difficult woman, as he said, he also said she was good. This e-mail says, | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
Theresa May claims she will be fair to the working people, the Tories | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
will never do that. Craig says, she is not a fan of foreigners, she is a | :49:23. | :49:30. | |
career politician, never really had a top job, voted to increase tuition | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
fees, Sheila 's charisma, she voted against the GPT right in Parliament. | :49:36. | :49:40. | |
Angela said, best woman for the job. Manic says, the wrong person to be | :49:41. | :49:47. | |
Prime Minister. And so on, I have got loads of those. I will read as | :49:48. | :49:51. | |
many as I can. Let's talk about the prospect of a general election. | :49:52. | :49:53. | |
"The Prime Minister is running scared of a general election." | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
That was Theresa May's verdict on Gordon Brown when he failed | :49:57. | :49:59. | |
to call a general election after taking over from | :50:00. | :50:01. | |
Fast forward nine years and Theresa May is now resisting | :50:02. | :50:07. | |
What's changed, though, since 2007 is a piece | :50:08. | :50:12. | |
of legislation called the Fixed Terms Parliament Act, | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
introduced in 2011 by David Cameron, which means general elections only | :50:17. | :50:19. | |
take place every five years unless there is a vote of no | :50:20. | :50:22. | |
confidence in the Government or two-thirds of MPs vote | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
This century, including Theresa May there have been 24 Prime Ministers, | :50:27. | :50:33. | |
half of whom were not elected after a general election. | :50:34. | :50:43. | |
Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron believes an early general election | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
is the only fair option for the British people. | :50:47. | :50:48. | |
And also with us Conservative MP Ed Vaizey, who says his party | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
will carry on business as usual with Teresa May in charge, | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
so an early election is completely unnecessary. | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
I don't think we need an election, we have been through the trauma of | :51:04. | :51:10. | |
the referendum. Theresa May's appointment shows we need a period | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
of stability. We won an election a year ago with a clear manifesto, | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
which she will now implement, along with the difficulties of Brexit. The | :51:20. | :51:25. | |
argument has got to be that her words are the answer that she has to | :51:26. | :51:29. | |
now follow. Very different scenario now. In many ways identical. She was | :51:30. | :51:37. | |
being crowned leader without there being an election, just like Gordon | :51:38. | :51:42. | |
Brown. The difference is these are extreme circumstances, where the | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
need for a fresh mandate is clear. There is an argument for an early | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
election on that basis. I hear the argument about stability and the | :51:53. | :51:55. | |
mandate given 14 months ago. The mandate 14 months ago was because of | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
the ability or the thought that they were a competent ministration to | :52:01. | :52:03. | |
look after the economy, they have just trashed it and made Norman | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
Lamont look quite effective by comparison. There is a need for the | :52:08. | :52:12. | |
Prime Minister to have a clear mandate as to what kind of religion | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
should we have with Europe. People were not given the option to vote | :52:17. | :52:23. | |
for it. We have a group of voters, most are Conservative supporters, we | :52:24. | :52:29. | |
have some Labour and Ukip. Who would like in the next six months a | :52:30. | :52:31. | |
general election? Who thinks it is necessary? Can I just say something? | :52:32. | :52:40. | |
No, just answer the question first. Do you want a general election? Yes, | :52:41. | :52:47. | |
I think I do. I think it would be democracy. Who wants the general | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
election in 2020, when it is supposed to happen? Most of you. I | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
have a different view. If Theresa May decides to step away from the | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
manifesto, at that point we need a general election. I have never seen | :53:04. | :53:13. | |
an elected Prime Minister. It is not a presidential system. When you | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
elect your MP, you let them into Parliament, and the Government do | :53:18. | :53:20. | |
the manifesto that they are supposed to do. At this stage, if we have a | :53:21. | :53:28. | |
general election, she could be an opportunist, because I don't see 400 | :53:29. | :53:34. | |
plus MPs saying, yes, putting forward a vote of no-confidence. I | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
don't see it happening. A snap general election is the worst threat | :53:40. | :53:45. | |
to the Brexit vote. Tim Farron's party has a general -- golden | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
opportunity, with the Labour Party in turmoil. I worked for the Leave | :53:52. | :53:58. | |
campaign, I take a tiny and out of responsibility. If we were to have | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
another election, it would increase the uncertainty. We should let | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
things calm down. They said to hold off, perhaps in the next six months. | :54:08. | :54:13. | |
Instead of a general election, why can't they put it to the | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
Conservative members? What would be the point? To see if they agree with | :54:18. | :54:26. | |
Theresa May stepping in. After all, she has got four fifths of the term | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
to be Prime Minister. Tim Farron's political arguments are attractive | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
as to why she needs a new mandate, but we need to look at the apartment | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
is of the situation, the nation is divided, the markets are nervous. | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
The prospect of having another, vision Government, more months of | :54:46. | :54:51. | |
uncertainty and wrangling and horse trading around which mandate would | :54:52. | :54:54. | |
be adopted, we have seen it before, do we need six general, sorry, three | :54:55. | :55:03. | |
general elections in six years? This is the uncertainty you get with | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
these single party Government, we crave the stability of coalition! I | :55:09. | :55:19. | |
also point out, you talked about she has a mandate from a year ago, have | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
things changed? I would argue they have. The 52% have a right to expect | :55:24. | :55:29. | |
that the Government's process is towards Brexit, but nobody was asked | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
what kind of religion should you want with Europe going forward. Some | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
will want an isolationist stance, some want almost everything except | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
being in the EU, where does Theresa May argue for? Before you answer | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
that, let's go back to Downing Street. | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
We just saw Ruth Davidson, the Scottish Tory leader, arriving. | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
Interesting, not just because she is late, but what is the significance | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
of her coming to this cabinet? She was one of the big voices on the | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
Remain side in the referendum campaign, many people thought she | :56:12. | :56:13. | |
dominated the last Wembley Arena debate, when she was coughing Boris | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
Johnson left, right and centre, and had a good go at Andrea Leadsom | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
after the remarks about whether being a mother gave you an advantage | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
as a politician. She got stuck into Andrea Leadsom for making those | :56:30. | :56:32. | |
remarks. There might be speculation about could she made the geek's | :56:33. | :56:40. | |
maybe be given a post down here? It is interesting she is here, albeit | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
her plane was delayed, because she has turned up half an hour late. | :56:46. | :56:53. | |
Norman with us through the morning, popping up from Downing Street to | :56:54. | :56:57. | |
tell us who is walking in the front door of number ten. Ruth Davidson, a | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
colleague of yours. Why do you think that might be? I have no idea. She | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
is down for the lobby lunch, lunching with political journalists, | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
maybe she is paying a courtesy call for thanking the Prime Minister. I | :57:14. | :57:21. | |
want to talk about the Cabinet meeting. You were backing Michael | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
Gove in the leadership race for the Conservative Party leader. We know | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
what happened there. How is he? He is in good heart, I saw him last | :57:33. | :57:35. | |
night, he seemed chipper. Like the rest of the party, he is supportive | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
of Theresa May now she is becoming our Prime Minister. Does he feel he | :57:41. | :57:48. | |
has imploded? He find it interesting that he is now a byword for | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
betrayal, because he did not betray anybody, he fought for a principle, | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
leading the EU. Does he understand the people who say he is a political | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
assassin? The understand things have not been brilliant, but he is ready | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
to serve Theresa May, if that is what she wants, and he is supportive | :58:07. | :58:12. | |
of the new Government. In terms of a general election, it will not | :58:13. | :58:14. | |
happen, despite your best efforts, is it? I understand the briefing | :58:15. | :58:21. | |
that have come out of the prospective number ten, that is what | :58:22. | :58:29. | |
they say at this point. The case for there being one is hugely important. | :58:30. | :58:33. | |
Particularly important that the people get to decide what kind of | :58:34. | :58:38. | |
relationship the UK has with our partners going forward. Without an | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
election of any kind until 2020, we could have jumped out of the plane | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
without a parachute, not having had the chance to decide what kind of | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
parachute, economic area or something else, we have in the | :58:51. | :58:55. | |
intervening period. It seems to be anti-democratic. Nobody has been | :58:56. | :59:00. | |
given any mandate for that kind of decision, that is why the public | :59:01. | :59:01. | |
should have their say. You are bathed in sunshine there, we | :59:02. | :59:17. | |
are not all like that. We have this picture from Gloucestershire of | :59:18. | :59:21. | |
showers. We have showers across western Scotland, Northern Ireland, | :59:22. | :59:25. | |
the driest conditions across northern England and eastern | :59:26. | :59:29. | |
Scotland. The showers will drift east through the day, some of them | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
will be torrential and thundery. The risk of localised flooding for the | :59:35. | :59:37. | |
Midlands, East Anglia and the south-east. Tonight the showers | :59:38. | :59:42. | |
merge in the south-east, so they will be heavier. Behind them, a | :59:43. | :59:48. | |
clearance in the sky, a lot of dry weather, and showers coming into the | :59:49. | :59:50. | |
West, loan in on a breeze. Tomorrow, we start with this rain in | :59:51. | :00:03. | |
the south-east. It moves away through the morning. For many, it | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
will be dry with sunshine, that there will also be showers. You | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
could almost catch a shower anywhere. The driest conditions will | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
be in the south-west. The temperatures will feel quite | :00:16. | :00:16. | |
pleasant. Theresa May is the new leader of the | :00:17. | :00:34. | |
Conservative Party and will be Britain's new Prime Minister by | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
tomorrow night. Those who know her have been telling us what to expect. | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
She is a different type of politician, different from the Tony | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
Blair, David Cameron mould, and I think it is time for a tough, | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
pragmatic politician. She's not going into this with her eyes | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
closed, her eyes are wide open in relation to the challenges, and she | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
is somebody up to the scale of the challenge. She can be quite | :00:57. | :01:06. | |
disciplined and focused but warm as well, and I think she has got so | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
many skills that will appeal to so many different people, and we can be | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
optimistic about this. This is a moment to take stock, start again on | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
our immigration policy, know who is in the country, and she will get a | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
grip of it, I'm confident about it. We are at Westminster this morning, | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
and later in the programme we will hear from an audience of voters who | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
will debate David Cameron's legacy at Prime Minister, but how would you | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
sum it up in one word? Unfair, disappointing? Slimy. Moderate. | :01:34. | :01:43. | |
Pragmatic. Thank you very much for those | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
adjectives! We will talk more to our voters later in the programme, David | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
Cameron holding his last ever Cabinet meeting as Prime Minister | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
right now and Theresa May currently planning her first ever Cabinet. | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
The clock is ticking for Mrs May as she has just 48 hours to shape a new | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
Government and decide whether to keep or call the beasts. | :02:06. | :02:15. | |
Here's Joanna with a summary of the day's news. | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
David Cameron is chairing his final Cabinet meeting this morning, | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
before Theresa May takes over as Prime Minister tomorrow. | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
Mrs May, the Prime Minister in waiting, was among the early | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
Her aides have rejected calls for a snap general election - | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
arguing that last month's referendum gives her a mandate to negotiate | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
A decision on whether Jeremy Corbyn will be automatically included | :02:38. | :02:45. | |
in Labour's leadership race will be made by officials today. | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
The party's National Executive Committee will discuss | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
whether he should be made to obtain nominations in the same | :02:54. | :02:55. | |
Mr Corbyn, who faces a challenge from the former Shadow Business | :02:56. | :03:07. | |
Secretary Angela Eagle, has vowed to fight any exclusion from the ballot | :03:08. | :03:08. | |
paper. New research is suggesting that | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
pregnancy multi-vitamins are a waste of money because most mothers-to-be | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
do not need them. In a review, they claim women should | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
take folic acid and vitamin D. But manufacturers say | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
that the study, which is published in the Drug And Therapeutics | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
Bulletin, doesn't take More than 1000 people have attended | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
a candlelight vigil in Dallas for the five police officers | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
who were killed during The gunman's parents have spoken | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
to the online news website The Blaze, saying their son | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
was changed by his experience Later today, President Obama | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
will speak at a memorial service, and a private funeral for the police | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
will be held on Friday. More than 8000 primary | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
schools in England - half the total number - | :03:49. | :03:50. | |
are to receive extra funding to adopt the South Asian | :03:51. | :03:52. | |
style of teaching maths. Known as Maths Mastery, | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
the technique relies on whole class International tests suggest that | :03:57. | :03:58. | |
Chinese pupils taught this way have a far higher level | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
of achievement than their Shares of Nintendo has soared more | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
than 10% in Tokyuo fuelled by the craze for Pokemon Go, | :04:08. | :04:20. | |
a smartphone game based on the video game maker's characters that has | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
become the top-grossing app The augmented reality game layers | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
gameplay onto the physical world, letting players wander the physical | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
world in search of digital monsters. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
News - more at 10.30am. Five-time Olympic champion | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
Sir Steve Redgrave has told us male golfers are using the Zika virus | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
as an excuse not to compete None of the world's top four players | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
will be in Rio after two-time Major winner Jordan Spieth | :04:49. | :04:59. | |
was the latest to pull out Although Open champion Zach Johnson | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
says a busy schedule is part It is a money orientated sport, they | :05:02. | :05:14. | |
do not earn money for going to the Olympics. I think Zach Johnson did | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
sum it up and I wish they would all come out and say that is the reason | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
they are not going, instead of using another excuse. If you are an | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
Olympic athlete who has trained for four years to go to these games, you | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
are not going to give it up, you will make sure you have that | :05:31. | :05:31. | |
opportunity. The six-time Olympic Champion | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
is in the Jamaican team despite pulling out of their trials | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
with an injury. He plans to prove his fitness | :05:42. | :05:43. | |
at the Anniversary Games in London later this month, | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
the scene of his 2012 triumphs. If Sam Allardyce needs a reference | :05:47. | :05:48. | |
for the England job, look no further than one | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
of his previous bosses. West Ham co-owner David Gold says | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
he wouldn't hesitate to recommend Big Sam for the job, | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
as the FA look for a As we understand it, | :05:58. | :06:00. | |
the Sunderland boss hasn't But he has left the club's | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
pre-season training camp in Austria. That is all the sport for now. | :06:04. | :06:21. | |
Welcome to the programme, you join us at a very sunny Westminster. We | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
have a group of voters here talking about the momentous events of the | :06:28. | :06:29. | |
last couple of weeks and the fact that we have not only a new leader | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
of the Conservative Party but, from tomorrow night, a new Prime | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
Minister. I don't know if you agree with this but do you remember at | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
primary school when it was really hot in the summer and your teacher | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
would let you have a lesson outside?! There is that sort of | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
Keady feeling amongst you, if you don't mind me saying so! Perhaps a | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
parochial analogy when we consider the importance of what is happening | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
in Downing Street, one of the most important jobs facing Theresa May in | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
the next 36 hours or so before she officially takes over at Number Ten | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
is which Conservative MPs to include in her new Cabinet. No doubt pretty | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
much every single ambitious MP is telling her why they think they | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
should be included. So who will she reward? Lets talk to our political | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
Guru, Norman, who is trying to work it out. | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
The key thing to understand at this moment is that this is a moment of | :07:24. | :07:31. | |
maximum power for Theresa May, when she can do what she wants, mistress | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
of all she surveys, she can boot everyone out of the Cabinet or keep | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
everyone in. So this is the time when she can totally reshape the | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
Government. Move out some of the key players, bring in new names. What | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
might we expect? A lot of focus inevitably on the Chancellor, George | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
Osborne. Listening to what Mrs May has said so far, most people think | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
he is on the move, because she was critical of his lack of fundamental | :07:56. | :08:23. | |
reform of the economy in her speech yesterday, and there is a pew that | :08:24. | :08:25. | |
Mr Osborne has been there and all long time, there have been some | :08:26. | :08:28. | |
pretty significant gaps, look at the row recently over disability | :08:29. | :08:30. | |
benefits, over tax credits, so he could maybe be after the Foreign | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
Office. Who could replace in? The smart money is on Philip Hammond, | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
the Foreign Secretary, thought to be good with money, a safe pair of | :08:36. | :08:37. | |
hands, he has been Chief Secretary to the Treasury before. When he was | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
Defence Secretary he got a hold of the defence Budget, which was | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
thought to be an unholy horror. What else is of interest in this Cabinet | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
shake-up? Of course, one Boris Johnson of London. What will happen | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
to him? Will he be bought in all cast into the wilderness? There are | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
people on both sides of the divide, some who think you could be given a | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
job as party chairman, cheer up the party faithful. Others think the way | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
he behaved, the treachery, which it is claimed he showed to David | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
Cameron, means it is time for him to be stabbed in the back and | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
dispatched. Another prominent Brexiteer, all eyes on Michael Gove, | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
we saw him speaking into Cabinet, parked the car in front of Number | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
Ten so we could not get a decent shout at him. Might he be sent | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
hither? There is a view that Theresa May might want to keep him in his | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
current post as Justice Secretary to finish the job of prison reform, | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
regarded as one of the big outstanding reforms no Government | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
has really got to grips with. Lastly, let's talk about Brexit, | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
because Mrs May has said she will create a Brexit minister to | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
mastermind our departure from the EU, and she said it will go to a | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
Brexiteer. The cast list is narrowed down. Could it be Chris Grayling? He | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
was her campaign manager, viewed by many as having fought a rather | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
adroit referendum campaign, did not get involved in the argy-bargy, he | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
seemed to stress a rather more level-headed approach which might | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
appeal to Mrs May. Also worth suggesting Liam Fox. How so? Liam | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
Fox introduced Mrs May at her launch, her aborted launch speech | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
yesterday, and came out in favour of her when he was knocked out of the | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
leadership contest, a prominent Brexiteer who have also been Defence | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
Secretary, perhaps he could be Mr Brexit. The last person, possibly, | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
David Davis, another big name on the Tory Brexit side, he, too, came out | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
in favour of Mrs May. What is interesting about him is that he has | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
had so many tussles with Mrs May over civil liberties issues, it | :10:49. | :10:57. | |
would be seen as an act of reconciliation, binding the party | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
together were she to bring him in. But let me say, trying to pick the | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
runners and riders is one big fat mug 's game because, really, the | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
only person who knows what is going to happen is Theresa May. | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
Absolutely right there. Let's hear more from Chris Grayling, Theresa | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
May's campaign manager, famously eight lever whereas Mrs May is a | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
Remainer. It came as a bit of surprise to all | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
of us, I think Andrea did the right thing given the fact that two months | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
of uncertainty would not have helped the country but yesterday morning | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
was a surprise to all of us. How unprepared is Theresa May for her | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
new role as Prime Minister? She's not unprepared, she is stepping up | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
after six years as Home Secretary and did we think about the prime | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
ministerial responsibilities number one most of the time is security and | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
she has been steeped in that for years. She also has the task of the | :11:49. | :12:01. | |
European Union and the process of leaving it on her desk as well but I | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
think she is as well prepared as anybody could be for the job. Her | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
first job is to give out Cabinet jobs, you will be promoted, | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
presumably? I was clear when I offered to chair her campaign, I did | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
not want a job offer, I would not have voted for somebody who was | :12:14. | :12:15. | |
dispensing job offers. But would you like to be chief Brexit negotiator? | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
What I do, if I do, is down to her, and the important thing now, we are | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
Conservatives again, not Levers or Remainers, and it is for her to pick | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
the best people for the jobs. How does she unite Great Britain, if it | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
is possible? By being as thoughtful leader, pursuing the one nation | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
agenda that is part of what we are trying to G that the moment, | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
bringing a new dimension to that, making sure the process of leaving | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
the EU is done sensibly and carefully with national interest top | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
of the mind and being a strong, smart leader, and that is what she | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
will do. Chris Grayling talking to us earlier | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
before ashing to the Cabinet meeting. We will have a new Prime | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
Minister tomorrow night, what happens to the old one? | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
It's not yet clear when David Cameron will vacate Number Ten, | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
or whether he'll say anything outside Downing Street | :13:09. | :13:10. | |
Here's how previous Prime Ministers have done it. | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
Good afternoon, Prime Minister! Where there is discord, may we bring | :13:14. | :13:21. | |
harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
doubt, may we bring faith. Where there is despair, may we bring hope. | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, we are leaving Downing Street for the last time | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
after 11.5 wonderful years, and we are very happy that we leave the | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
United Kingdom in a very, very much better state than when we came here | :13:44. | :13:54. | |
11.5 years ago. It is a very exciting thing to | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
become leader of the Conservative Party, and particularly exciting to | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
follow one of the most remarkable leaders the Conservative Party has | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
ever had. When the curtain falls, it is time | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
to get off the stage, and that is what I propose to do. I shall, | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
therefore, ad buys my Parliamentary colleagues that I believe that it | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
would be appropriate for them to consider the selection of a new | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
leader of the Conservative Party to lead the party through opposition | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
during the years that might immediately ahead -- the years that | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
lie ahead. I have just accepted the invitation | :14:31. | :14:55. | |
of Her Majesty The Queen to form a Government. This will be a new | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
Government with new priorities. Only those who have held the office | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
of Prime Minister can understand the full weight of its responsibilities | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
and its great capacity for good. I have been privileged to learn much | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
about the very best in human nature, and a fair amount about its | :15:15. | :15:21. | |
frailties, including my own. Her Majesty The Queen has asked me | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
to form a new Government, and I have accepted. | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
On Wednesday, I will attend the House of Commons for Prime | :15:31. | :15:32. | |
Minister's Questions, and then after that I expect to go to the palace | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
and offer my resignation, so you will have the new Prime Minister in | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
that building behind me by Wednesday evening. Thank you very much. | :15:40. | :15:48. | |
HE HUMS A JUNE. So what kind of legacy | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
will David Cameron leave behind? Let's speak to Jim Waterson, | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
who's political editor of Buzzfeed, Isabel Hardman, deputy editor | :15:56. | :15:57. | |
of the Conservative-supporting political magazine The Spectator, | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
and Anushka Asthana, the political editor | :16:01. | :16:01. | |
of The Guardian newspaper. What was he coming? Classic FM did | :16:02. | :16:16. | |
an analysis, my favourite was a copycat of an Alan Partridge clip. | :16:17. | :16:23. | |
What would you say about his legacy? If you had written it a year ago, | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
the first Prime Minister to win a Conservative majority in 20 years, | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
setting out your nice handover, and now it just will be Europe, in the | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
same way that Tony Blair is Iraq. Would you agree? Yes, it is sad for | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
him that everybody willing him to the EU. What he wanted was to wake | :16:46. | :16:52. | |
up to a Remain vote and unroll his life chances strategy that has been | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
going on, led by the Department for Work and Pensions. I remember text | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
in one of his strategists, he said, ask the right wing of the | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
Conservative Party. You say it is sad, but David Cameron offered the | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
country a referendum. It was a way of managing his own party. He did | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
not follow through with an affective renegotiation. He said last year he | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
thought his legacy would be fixing the economy, solving the question of | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
Scotland and the question of Britain within Europe. That is looking | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
pretty good! Lets put Europe to one side, which nobody will, in terms of | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
history. What else should we look at in terms of his legacy? He has | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
brought in some interesting social reforms, on education he brought in | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
same-sex marriage as well, even though it was hugely bruising for | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
his party, he pursued it. But Europe will dominate, and it will be | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
difficult for him to forge the life chances legacy he was hoping to | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
pursue. How different will Theresa May's Premiership be? Had you asked | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
me when she was Home Secretary, I would have said some of the Liberal | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
Democrats described her as pretty socially Conservative, they would | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
have said barely a liberal on lots of things, but she did a speech | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
yesterday, it was supposed to be the start of the leadership battle, but | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
then we realised it was the speech of a minister, and it sounded a bit | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
like Ed Miliband, it was about workers' right. I spoke to the | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
deputy chair of the Tories, he said it is going after the Labour votes | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
whilst Labour are in trouble. Will David Cameron be pleased it is | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
Theresa May taking over? Is she a continuity candidate, or are we | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
lulled into a false sense of the director? More pleased than if | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
Andrea Leadsom had taken over, along with most of the parliamentary | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
party. She has more chance of protecting his legacy. The main | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
thing is the economic approach, we don't know where she will go. The | :19:00. | :19:06. | |
talk of putting people on board. It is an indication of Ed Miliband in | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
some ways, some of his policies creeping in. We don't know about her | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
economy, because there was not a leadership contest, we have not been | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
able to scrutinise or ask those kind of questions. There are huge gaps in | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
what she thinks. We are going to get to know her as Prime Minister, | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
because there was not a leadership contest, but we have not been able | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
to scrutinise her record as Home Secretary either. There was no | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
chance for her opponents to point out that she failed to meet one of | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
her key targets, the net migration target, which she is still committed | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
to. We have talked about that with voters, it was an issue for them. In | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
terms of your new cabinet, this is really important for her, trying to | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
bring the party together, which is essential for a new Prime Minister. | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
Who will she give jobs to? This is the worst question in politics now! | :20:06. | :20:14. | |
I do quite like Philip Hammond to the Treasury, that seems to make | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
sense. He could be her new Chancellor. I I'm not sure about a | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
job for Boris, I don't see how you could give him something that major. | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
I will leave that one. Can you reflect on the last two and a half | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
weeks or so? My goodness. It has been more packed than the rest of my | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
career, it has been moving at triple speed. If it continues, we will have | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
had five ministers -- five prime ministers by the end of next week. | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
Everybody has been possessed by their own careers, it has not been | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
about the Government and about what happens to this country after | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
Brexit. Jeremy Corbyn refusing to budge, ministers campaigning for one | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
another, maybe now we will start to think about what happens to written | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
now it has voted to leave the EU. We hardly talking the impact of Brexit, | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
and there are loads of big impacts that will take place. It has been | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
like an episode of house of cards, it is a better script than they came | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
up with. I am sorry, I will come back, because Norman is at Downing | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
Street. Cabinet is finishing, I calculate | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
that is 50 minutes or so, much shorter than usual, but there is not | :21:30. | :21:37. | |
a vast amount to discuss today. We can see if there are any tribute to | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
David Cameron for his time. Speaking to his folk... Were there any | :21:45. | :21:52. | |
tributes to Mr Cameron? This must be the new Theresa May way of doing | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
things, people don't talk to us any more! Let's see if we can get | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
anybody else to talk. David Cameron's team said he would do a | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
valedictory statement at the start of the cabinet meeting, reflecting | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
on the past five years or so, and then the expectation was that there | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
would be tributes from other Cabinet ministers, reflecting on the | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
challenges and achievements. Of course, alongside being a poignant | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
moment, everyone's attention is shifting to Theresa May. Trying to | :22:26. | :22:32. | |
think what she is thinking, whether everybody will still be around the | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
table, or if it is the final time in Cabinet. That will form part of the | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
dynamic of the occasion. It will have been quite a poignant moment, | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
who would have predicted this? A year ago David Cameron sailed in | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
triumphant having clawed his party from the brick of a hung parliament. | :22:51. | :22:52. | |
Were there any tributes? It is be staying mum school of | :22:53. | :23:06. | |
politics, we are not having much joy today. We will see if anybody who is | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
more chatty comes out. I am sure there would have been some sort of | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
tribute. We will get more tomorrow, when we have Prime Minister's | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
Questions, Mr Cameron will take it. It will be more of a personal | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
statement, we saw it when Tony Blair and others did their final session. | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
It is a chance for them to adopt a much lighter approach. We will get | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
more on Mr Cameron's farewell tomorrow, alongside today's final | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
Cabinet. A valiant effort at shouting out | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
questions as they leave the Cabinet meeting. Sorry, I interrupted you, | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
reflecting on events. We cannot swear, there has been lots of | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
swearing in there. Significant moment for the Labour Party, and | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
then we are not interested, because we are about to get a Prime | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
Minister. I think he was humming The West Wing, or Black beauty. That is | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
a new one! We will talk about Labour in a moment. I want to ask our | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
voters, in terms of Mr Cameron's legacy, what would you say? I would | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
say it is cross-party working, he has worked with the Liberal | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
Democrats, and with the Labour Party on a broad range of parties -- | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
things such as the gay marriage bill. You are a Labour supporter. It | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
does not matter what you say, I come from a different party, but he let | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
the British people decide their own future by giving us a referendum, | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
and I will be grateful for that. Whenever I am asked about his | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
legacy... Whenever you are asked about it? Do people ask you? I am | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
reminded of the note he was left from his first day in office, I'm | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
afraid there is no money left. Two and the -- to turn the economy | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
around, making cuts, the hard decisions have been to his credit. | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
And he has been progressive, lifting bans on women serving in the | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
military, reforming adoption, and gay marriage. But he has wiped away | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
the good work by calling a referendum. The economic benefit, | :25:17. | :25:24. | |
the triple the economy, it was wiped off in days after the referendum. | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
His legacy is project the. By now we are supposed to be having the third | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
World War, because the country voted to leave, and this is what he did | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
all the way through as a Prime Minister, he should have been | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
independent, and he would still be Prime Minister now. He will be | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
remembered as a manager, somebody who has held onto things, a Stuart, | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
to make sure Britain goes from the financial crisis, through the | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
challenges Fred, deal with Scotland and Europe, lead things in a way and | :25:58. | :26:04. | |
solve things. He took a gamble and it did not turn out the way he | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
wanted. We will come back to you in a second. This e-mail from Alex, it | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
does not matter about Theresa May being a woman, it is another leader | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
that is a smart leader. As long as she gets the Brexit over and done | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
with, I will be happy. Richard says, she will bring much-needed stability | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
and calm, so no general election, please. This from Tammy, Theresa May | :26:31. | :26:37. | |
will win the trust of the financial markets and big business, we need to | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
stabilise Government, though, before another general election. | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
Whilst all eyes are on the new Conservative leader | :26:44. | :26:45. | |
and Prime Minister in waiting, Labour is still continuing to riddle | :26:46. | :26:48. | |
The BBC's seen a solicitor's letter which threatens legal action | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
against the governing body of the Labour Party if Jeremy | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
Corbyn's prevented from contesting a leadership challenge. | :26:55. | :27:02. | |
Margaret Hodge is here. Come on, we were regretting the fact we could | :27:03. | :27:14. | |
not talk about Labour, so now is the opportunity. Have you seen this | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
letter? No. Jeremy Corbyn will be on the ballot paper. I don't know. Take | :27:22. | :27:28. | |
it a day at a time. I take a common-sense view. If you are a | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
leader of the Labour Party, you have to have the confidence of the | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
Parliamentary Labour Party, that is the group you are leading as a | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
potential Government, and if you have lost the confidence of 80% of | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
them, if you cannot even form an opposition administration because | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
people are not willing to serve with you, if even the elected deputy | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
leader says it is time you go, it is really difficult to move forward. | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
The role that we have got that says you have to have about 20% of the | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
MPs saying they are supported, it is common sense, given the role you | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
have to play. He will be on the ballot paper, he may well the Angela | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
Eagle and or Owen Smith. I don't agree. Who will beat him? I saw | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
Angela yesterday launching her campaign. It was interrupted, that | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
of the moment when Andrea Leadsom decided she was going to withdraw | :28:28. | :28:30. | |
from the Conservative leadership contest. Angela Eagle gave a | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
fantastically powerful performance, she is a strong, gutsy, witty woman. | :28:36. | :28:43. | |
That may be true, but those party members come 20 of them want Jeremy | :28:44. | :28:50. | |
Corbyn still. In terms of Labour's woes the moment, what are you | :28:51. | :28:57. | |
thinking? Lot of Labour MPs say that in their local parties those who | :28:58. | :29:00. | |
voted for Jeremy Corbyn are starting to say, we still think he is a | :29:01. | :29:05. | |
decent man, but he can't lead. But this is anecdotal, we don't know how | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
far it goes. There has been a huge surge in membership. People are not | :29:13. | :29:14. | |
sure where it is coming from. There is another's there may have been a | :29:15. | :29:21. | |
shift, even his allies say it is 50-50 whether he would win again. If | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
he did, it would be difficult for the party. If he wins, I can't see | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
where the party goes and where the MPs go. | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
A day at a time. The first time you said that was a week and a half ago, | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
he is still the leader. It takes time, we have to go through this | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
process, but I agree, people who supported him a year ago do feel | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
that he has not shown... He has been given the privilege to stand as our | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
leader, he has failed in that in all sorts of ways. At the last election, | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
over 9 million people to form a Government. We it to those | :30:03. | :30:16. | |
9.5 million people, and that was the lowest Labour turnout for a | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
generation, so we need to attract more people. It is a really serious | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
time in British politics, with the Brexit vote, and negotiating | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
something. It is our people who are likely to be the ones to suffer | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
most, or could suffer most, if we don't get the Brexit strategy right. | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
This is the time we need a stronger leader, and we need to build the | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
support for Labour on the doorstep. Jeremy does not have it. Angela | :30:43. | :30:49. | |
Eagle, another woman, would have it. I think it is brilliant that we have | :30:50. | :30:51. | |
more women in the front line. No-one will disagree with that but | :30:52. | :30:59. | |
how do you view the fact that Labour have never had it been a leader but | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
the Conservatives have had two the Mall Prime Minister 's? I think it | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
is terrible! Labour has always been the party that has promoted | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
equality. We have done more to get... I know! So it is about time | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
we had a woman leader. Angela Eagle is a woman but also has it all, she | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
is bright, intelligent, experienced, she is a unity candidate. She was so | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
funny yesterday, people say she has this dour exterior but she is a | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
serious politician, she is bedded in her values, she would make a great | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
leader of the Labour Party, a serious opposition person who would, | :31:40. | :31:47. | |
I think, defend, we need a strong opposition at this time, and finally | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
a brilliant woman Prime Minister for the Labour Party. Thank you for your | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
time this morning. We have got about half an hour left | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
in the programme, we will hear more from our voters and more comments | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
from you as you watch. Your views on Theresa May very welcome. Time for | :32:08. | :32:08. | |
the news with Joanna. David Cameron is chairing his final | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
Cabinet meeting this morning, before Theresa May takes over | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
as Prime Minister tomorrow. Mrs May, the Prime Minister | :32:16. | :32:25. | |
in waiting, was the last to Her aides have rejected calls | :32:26. | :32:28. | |
for a snap general election - arguing that last month's referendum | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
gives her a mandate to negotiate Labour's National Executive Council | :32:33. | :32:35. | |
will decide today whether Jeremy Corbyn will automatically be | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
in the contest to be party leader. There's confusion within the party | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
as to whether Mr Corbyn needs the backing of 51 MPs to be | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
entered in the ballot. Mr Corbyn, who faces | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
a challenge from the former Shadow Business Secretary | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
Angela Eagle, has vowed to fight any exclusion | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
from the ballot paper. New research is suggesting that | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
pregnancy multi-vitamins are a waste of money because most mothers-to-be | :32:58. | :32:59. | |
do not need them. In a review, they claim women should | :33:00. | :33:01. | |
take folic acid and vitamin D. But manufacturers say | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
that the study, which is published in the Drug And Therapeutics | :33:07. | :33:09. | |
Bulletin, doesn't take President Obama is visiting Dallas | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
today, following last week's killing More than 1000 people have attended | :33:12. | :33:19. | |
a candlelit vigil in the city where police officers were killed | :33:20. | :33:25. | |
during a protest march last week. The gunman's parents have spoken | :33:26. | :33:27. | |
to the online news website The Blaze, saying their son | :33:28. | :33:30. | |
was changed by his experience Later today, President Obama | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
will speak at a memorial service, and a private funeral for the police | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
will be held on Friday. More than 8000 primary | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
schools in England - half the total number - | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
are to receive extra funding to adopt the South Asian | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
style of teaching maths. Known as Maths Mastery, | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
the technique relies on whole class International tests suggest that | :33:53. | :33:54. | |
Chinese pupils taught this way have a far higher level | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
of achievement than their Shares of Nintendo has soared more | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
than 10% in Tokyuo fuelled --in Tokyo fuelled by the craze | :34:04. | :34:22. | |
for Pokemon Go, a smartphone game based on the video | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
game maker's characters that has become the top-grossing app | :34:26. | :34:27. | |
less than a week after its release. The augmented reality game layers | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
gameplay onto the physical world, letting players wander the physical | :34:31. | :34:32. | |
world in search of digital monsters. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
News - join me for BBC Now that none of the world's top | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
four golfers will be competing five-time gold medallist | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
Sir Steve Redgrave has told us they're using the Zika virus | :34:44. | :34:46. | |
as an excuse not to go to Rio. Two-time Major winner Jordan Spieth | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
is the latest to pull out Sir Steve says golf | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
is a money-orientated sport, and they don't get paid | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
for playing at the Olympics. The six-time Olympic Champion | :34:56. | :34:57. | |
is in the Jamaican team despite pulling out of their trials | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
with an injury. He plans to prove his fitness | :35:02. | :35:03. | |
at the Anniversary Games in London later this month, | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
the scene of his 2012 triumphs. West Ham co-owner David Gold says | :35:06. | :35:08. | |
he wouldn't hesitate to recommend The Sunderland boss is favourite | :35:09. | :35:11. | |
to succeed Roy Hodgson, and has left the club's pre-season | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
training camp in Austria - but that's apparently | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
on transfer business. And Mercedes have withdrawn | :35:21. | :35:22. | |
their appeal over Nico Rosberg's ten-second penalty at | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
Sunday's British Grand Prix. It demoted him to | :35:26. | :35:32. | |
third place overall. Rosberg was penalised | :35:33. | :35:33. | |
after team-radio instructions were judged to have given | :35:34. | :35:35. | |
him too much guidance. That is all the sport for now. | :35:36. | :35:46. | |
We are live at Westminster this morning, the sun has taken a break, | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
which is a good thing because we were all getting sunburnt down here | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
in front of the Houses of Parliament. Up the road, the last | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
ever Cabinet meeting with David Cameron wrapped up about 15 minutes | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
ago and we are in a sort of hiatus period, David Cameron will have his | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
last PMQs tomorrow lunchtime but we are waiting for Britain's next Prime | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
Minister. We have a number of voters here, some of them Conservative | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
supporters, we will hear your views particularly on Brexit in the next | :36:14. | :36:19. | |
half an hour, Theresa May has said Brexit means Brexit, but what does | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
it mean? We will discuss that in a second. She has also promised to | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
build a better Britain, but what will that look like? | :36:28. | :36:41. | |
We have got a hand that has been up for ages, Roger. | :36:42. | :36:44. | |
Would you like to see a woman Prime Minister? | :36:45. | :36:46. | |
I think it depends on who the person is, I don't think there will be | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
a woman Prime Minister in my lifetime. | :36:50. | :36:51. | |
I grew up the daughter of a local vicar and the granddaughter | :36:52. | :37:01. | |
Public service has been a part of who I am for | :37:02. | :37:08. | |
I think what the people here in Maidenhead are looking | :37:09. | :37:36. | |
for is who will be the best constituency member of Parliament | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
and obviously I think they have made the right choice tonight. | :37:40. | :37:47. | |
One of the most dangerous human emotions is | :37:48. | :37:49. | |
Today, the world is not a safer place, it is a more uncertain place, | :37:50. | :37:57. | |
There is a lot we need to do in this party of ours. | :37:58. | :38:26. | |
Our base is too narrow, and so, occasionally, | :38:27. | :38:28. | |
I know that is unfair, you know that's unfair, | :38:29. | :38:38. | |
but it is the people out there that we need to convince. | :38:39. | :39:06. | |
If you do not change of your own accord, | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
I am honoured and humbled to have been chosen by the Conservative | :39:10. | :39:36. | |
Brexit means Brexit, and we are going to | :39:37. | :39:46. | |
Second, we need to unite our country, and third, we need | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
a strong, new positive vision for the future of our country, | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
a vision of a country that works not for the privileged few but that | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
works for every one of us because we are going to give people | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
That is how, together, we will build a better Britain. | :40:04. | :40:19. | |
Theresa May has promised that "Brexit means Brexit", but how | :40:20. | :40:22. | |
When will she trigger Article 50, the now famous piece of legislation | :40:23. | :40:34. | |
which we mention every day at the moment, which paves the way for the | :40:35. | :40:35. | |
UK to leave the EU? Now divorce is on the cards, | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
what happens next? Well, it could be messy and it | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
could take some time. First things first, remember that | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
deal David Cameron struck I believe that this is enough for me | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
to recommend that the United Kingdom Instead we will be hearing | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
a lot about this. When the Article 50 | :40:57. | :41:07. | |
process is triggered... Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty sets | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
out how a country can leave the EU. It gives a deadline, | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
two years to negotiate a break-up and that is it, | :41:16. | :41:22. | |
although it can be extended Once the wheels are in motion, | :41:23. | :41:25. | |
the UK is not allowed to take part We would then have 24 | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
months to negotiate The key question is, | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
what taxes and restrictions, if any, What will happen to EU | :41:39. | :41:46. | |
workers inside the UK, and what happens to the 1.2 million | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
British citizens living At the same time we can start | :41:52. | :41:54. | |
to disentangle 40 years of EU law from our own British law, so, | :41:55. | :42:08. | |
for example, many environmental legislation and consumer rights | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
were written in Brussels and they may well need | :42:11. | :42:12. | |
to be replaced. When it does all start, | :42:13. | :42:14. | |
expect some intense negotiations Many people think full Brexit | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
is unlikely to happen before Let's talk more about what Theresa | :42:17. | :42:37. | |
May said, Brexit means Brexit, and what it means. We have got the | :42:38. | :42:39. | |
voters here. And Labour MP Helen Goodman, | :42:40. | :42:41. | |
whose Urgent Question in the Commons on Article 50 triggered | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
a debate last night. And Raoul Ruparel from Open | :42:45. | :42:51. | |
Europe. We are looking to make Brexit work | :42:52. | :43:01. | |
for the UK and business as a whole. What was your question in the | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
Commons yesterday? I wanted to know if the Government would get | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
Parliament's approval before they trigger Article 50, because what the | :43:10. | :43:15. | |
Leave campaign said what it is about taking back control and restoring | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
Parliamentary sovereignty. We want to know, what will the Government's | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
negotiating position B, a lot of promises were made during the | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
campaign, for example 350000000 pounds for the NHS, if that promise | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
is to be delivered in the opening position that Theresa May will have | :43:33. | :43:38. | |
to make will be no more contributions to the EU Budget, so | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
we want to go into that detail and give more voice so that sovereignty | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
is restored and for transparency for the public. At the people have | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
spoken, why do we need Parliament to have another boat? 70 million people | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
voted out. Yes, but there was no plan and there are lots of different | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
ideas about the way we do Brexit, so we need to go into that in more | :44:00. | :44:06. | |
detail. If you want to join us, sir, you are welcome. Rather than | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
shouting, stand at the end of the line. Let's talk about Brexit in | :44:10. | :44:16. | |
terms of voters. What does it mean to you, when do you want Article 50 | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
triggered? I'm not in any rush for it to be delivered, I think we need | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
to get the best deal that we can. I voted Leave because I need a more | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
global horizon for the country, embracing opportunities from | :44:31. | :44:33. | |
emerging markets that are growing around the world, so I'm excited for | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
the possibilities of Brexit ministers in Theresa May's | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
Government who can initiate the process of starting trade heels with | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
countries like India, China, America, to create new opportunities | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
for us. Hello, sir, welcome to our programme, live on BBC News. What | :44:52. | :44:57. | |
does Brexit mean to you? Only one thing, the free movement of people. | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
Theresa May will do a detail with Germany, she caused Brexit in the | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
first place by not giving Cameron as a bit more. People voted for Brexit. | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
I voted out. But if you have got more on immigration I might have | :45:16. | :45:18. | |
voted the other way. Just to be clear, you voted out but, in terms | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
of how much freedom of movement of people you want, what is it? Let's | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
get down to the 1950s. We wanted people to come and do the work. Now, | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
I live in Bermondsey, come down to Bermondsey, if you hear an English | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
voice, let me know. I am one of the last English people left in | :45:40. | :45:42. | |
Bermondsey, I kid you not. All of the houses are owned by the rich, | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
let out to immigrants, making a fortune. You want Theresa May to be | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
very strict? I will move the microphone around. What does Brexit | :45:52. | :45:52. | |
mean to you? We want to take the law is back. I | :45:53. | :46:04. | |
want to see Britain leading the world, rather than following the EU. | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
I want to renew the links with the Commonwealth countries. That is | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
about it. When do you want it to start? It is difficult, because | :46:15. | :46:21. | |
politics is in turmoil. I would like to see a general election in the | :46:22. | :46:25. | |
end, just to give a lead the mandate. At the moment, you don't | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
know who will be the Labour Party leader, you don't know what Theresa | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
May is about, so it is a bit early, but perhaps in a year you could have | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
another general election and then start the exit. What I would like to | :46:39. | :46:45. | |
ask politicians... We have an -- we have a Labour MP here. Why don't we | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
have cross-party negotiations? What will happen if Labour get in at the | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
next election and the Conservatives have started the exit procedure? We | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
should have cross-party negotiations. You are making a good | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
point. One of the reasons for coming back to Parliament is so every MP | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
gets a voice. That was partly what I was trying to say yesterday in the | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
House of Commons, because different people... We have heard it from | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
three people today, people have different priorities, so the way we | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
go about this is not clear. Take the microphone. What do you say to the | :47:26. | :47:33. | |
idea that if we take it to Parliament, and the Labour Party and | :47:34. | :47:40. | |
many Remainers vote against the British people, should they be | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
whipped to vote with the British people, or if they vote to stay, | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
that calls into question whether our representatives represent the | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
people. Identical that will happen. There will be a series of choices to | :47:55. | :48:01. | |
make. Ash M I don't think that will happen. What kind of trade deals | :48:02. | :48:04. | |
will be have, what kind of movement between the different countries? | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
Different packages will be possible. I don't think there is anybody at | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
the moment saying that they don't want to follow the referendum, but | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
there are different ways of doing it, and we need to look into it. As | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
to when it should be held, when it should be triggered, Article 50, we | :48:24. | :48:30. | |
need a period of stability. The markets need to settle. Theresa May | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
and her cabinet need to come up with their strategy, as I am sure is | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
going on. Then perhaps before the end of the year, trigger Article 50, | :48:42. | :48:47. | |
because there will be a two-year period, which will take is up to | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
2019, 2020 will be the election, it needs to be done in a proper way, | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
with other parties included in the process, because we are going | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
forward as a country, and some kind of consensus needs to be made. Good | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
morning. You are the Pensions Minister. Are you a fan of trees | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
may? I am, it is the best possible news for the country. She really | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
cares about the country, we will get stability, she has experience, she | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
is a serious politician who understands what we need. She voted | :49:23. | :49:29. | |
Remain and she has failed to curb net migration, which is why a lot | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
people voted to leave. These are huge challenges, otherwise it would | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
have been solved by now. She has said quite clearly that people have | :49:39. | :49:42. | |
spoken, we have to listen, and she will get on with the job of pulling | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
this country together and moving forward. I have no doubt. She is the | :49:46. | :49:52. | |
best person to do that. It is not easy, it is a huge challenge for | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
anybody. She is the best possible person to do that. You have to | :49:58. | :50:04. | |
reconcile somehow, if this is what she wants, access to the single | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
market and the 500 million customers with restricting freedom of movement | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
of people, which is what you would take from the EU vote. Exactly. So | :50:14. | :50:21. | |
far, the people have spoken, we know some of what they want, then we have | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
to look at how we might be able to achieve that. She will be going in | :50:25. | :50:31. | |
to bat for Britain. That is what we want, somebody who is experienced. | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
She is respected, admired, in a lot of areas. For her, if anybody can, | :50:36. | :50:44. | |
she will be able to go out and say, this is what the British people | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
want. She can find the best way to move forward. Brexit means Brexit, | :50:49. | :50:59. | |
she has said. What does that mean? Essentially it means what you want | :51:00. | :51:03. | |
it to mean. We have not got much detail about what she thinks she | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
wants to do. She has been clear about limiting immigration, she has | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
talked about bringing back greater control, having a proper industrial | :51:12. | :51:16. | |
policy, a one nation approach, and whether it will fit with the rules | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
of the EU remains to be seen. How she will marry this vision with the | :51:23. | :51:28. | |
EU is not yet clear. How much access she is willing to give up is the | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
crucial question. What is your view on the point that Helen was making | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
in Parliament yesterday about Parliament as the sovereign body, | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
which is what the majority voted for, to have that vote on Article | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
50? The Government has been clear that it believes it is indeed | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
Government's prerogative to trigger article 50, and that can be brought | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
in later to have votes about the type of trade deals to go for. It is | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
not clear-cut. But they must have some strong legal advice to be so | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
categorical so far. It is not going to go down to lawyers, is it? There | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
is a court case pending. We don't know who is paying for it. I don't | :52:14. | :52:19. | |
know that. Irrespective of that, as a matter of principle, the | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
Government ought to acknowledge that people wanted parliamentary | :52:25. | :52:26. | |
sovereignty, and it should come back to Parliament. It will be a long | :52:27. | :52:30. | |
process, and before they begin, they need to say what is their plan, how | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
they are going to go about this, and they need to be edited vote on it. I | :52:36. | :52:42. | |
would like to end by thanking our voters, who have been incredibly | :52:43. | :52:46. | |
patient and made thoughtful contributions. I would like to hear, | :52:47. | :52:53. | |
as we are on the cost of a new Prime Minister, your thoughts, your hopes, | :52:54. | :53:01. | |
your fears, your concerns, your views. Can I have a word with The | :53:02. | :53:11. | |
Lady In The Van. ? -- the lady in the middle? You say you would like a | :53:12. | :53:13. | |
second referendum? No. I am saying that the proposals for | :53:14. | :53:25. | |
the new shape of our religion ship with Europe should come to | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
Parliament. That is what the cover much about to Parliament. You | :53:30. | :53:37. | |
understand, perfect. And you for your time, thank you for coming onto | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
the programme. What are you hoping for? You are nervous? What we are | :53:41. | :53:47. | |
seeing is an attempt to kick this issue into the long grass. We have | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
seen politicians and the elite across business and law... You don't | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
believe Theresa May when she says Brexit means Brexit? I believe her, | :54:00. | :54:07. | |
but there is a consensus across a lot of the elite in our country to | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
try and scupper the vote, so I am nervous. I voted Remain, but I am | :54:11. | :54:17. | |
optimistic. But we have seen in the last three weeks, there is Age UK | :54:18. | :54:28. | |
trade continuity at going through the house of Congress in the United | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
States, being pushed forward by Paul Ryan, and India wants a trade | :54:33. | :54:37. | |
agreement, and there are rumours across at least nine countries, | :54:38. | :54:40. | |
which have decided to sign up for trade agreements of some sort. While | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
I am not optimistic about what we can get from the EU, as a young | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
person I would like to see free movement still on the table... Your | :54:50. | :54:57. | |
hopes and fears? I take a similar point of view, I voted Remain, and I | :54:58. | :55:04. | |
see an optimistic future. There is a part of me that is still on my toes, | :55:05. | :55:10. | |
I am not too sure what Brexit will look like, what model we will take. | :55:11. | :55:20. | |
I am feeling quite positive, especially because of Theresa May | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
being in the position that she is, I feel the country will be better | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
placed. A quick word from you. I would like to see how she will forge | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
religion ships with Europe going forward, without a stable economy | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
everything that we hoped for, whether socially or culturally, will | :55:40. | :55:43. | |
not happen, so that is what I would like to see, because we have had all | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
of the uncertainty before the referendum, now we need to take the | :55:48. | :55:49. | |
decision forward and build this country. Over here? Thanks, Tony. It | :55:50. | :56:00. | |
is a great opportunity to take one of the political energy and interest | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
there has been in politics and make that into a democratic basis for us | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
to go forward. Young people are getting involved, people who | :56:10. | :56:11. | |
previously thought they could not connect with their MPs, I hope that | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
is eight and the other parties take that forward, to connect MPs more | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
with their communities and local families. Rachel, behind you. I see | :56:21. | :56:27. | |
it as a trendsetter for women in power, it is happening all over the | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
world, I am happy to see that. Whether or not you agree with | :56:33. | :56:35. | |
policies, you see a woman in power, you will be inspired. I will ask for | :56:36. | :56:45. | |
a word, an adjective, about how... Or two words if you push me, about | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
how you are feeling. What would you say? Uncertain. That move around the | :56:49. | :56:58. | |
back row. Frustrated. Positive. Optimism. Nervous. Hopeful. Time for | :56:59. | :57:05. | |
proven leadership. Once upon a time, | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
a little girl clambered up a ladder | :57:10. | :57:13. |