12/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

This morning, the country has a new Conservative leader

and by tomorrow evening a new Prime Minister.

She is 59-year-old Theresa May, daughter of a vicar,

MP for 19 years, Home Secretary for six years, whose desert

island luxury would be a subscription to Vogue magazine.

We are going to give people more control over their lives,

and that is how, together, we will build a better Britain.

This morning we're at Westminster, where we'll be talking

to her friends, her colleagues and her critics.

Plus we'll talk to those who count - you, the voters, the people who'll

I'm Rachel, I think Theresa May's strong leadership is what the poetry

and country needs. I have reservations, it is a big job and I

would like to know how she will do it. Her colleagues were gushing

yesterday and I hope it is all true. In half-an-hour David Cameron

will chair has last ever Cabinet meeting as Prime Minister -

Norman Smith is there. We'll Theresa May keep or call the

Tory big beasts as she scrambles to shape her new Government in just 48

hours? The clock is ticking. Good morning, and good morning to

our voters who have joined us here, thank you for giving up your time

today to talk about some really important stuff this morning.

Britain has a new Prime Minister - Theresa May officially takes over

This morning we're in Westminster, outside the Houses of Parliament,

where we'll be keeping you up to date with all the developments,

talking to those who know Theresa May and her critics.

And throughout the programme we're joined by an audience of voters.

The people who will be affected by any decisions Theresa May makes in

the future. David Cameron will chair his

last-ever Cabinet meeting today. In a moment we'll talk to three

of those who'll be there, but first this is

Theresa May's story. We have got a hand that has

been up for ages, Roger. Would you like to see a woman Prime

Minister? I think it depends

upon who the person is, I don't think there will be a woman

Prime Minister in my lifetime. I grew up the daughter of

a local vicar and the granddaughter Public service has been

a part of who I am for I think what the people

in Maidenhead are looking for is who will be the best

constituency Member of Parliament and obviously I think they have made

the right choice tonight. One of the most dangerous

human emotions is Today, the world is not a safer

place, it is a more uncertain place, There is a lot we need to do

in this party of ours. Our base is too narrow,

and so occasionally I know that is unfair,

you know that's unfair, but it is the people out

there that we need to convince. If you do not change

of your own accord, I am honoured and humbled to have

been chosen by the Conservative Brexit means Brexit,

and we are going to Second, we need to unite our

country, and third, we need a strong, new positive vision

for the future of our country, a vision of a country that works not

for the privileged few but that works for every one of us

because we are going to give people That is how, together,

we will build a better Britain. That is the Theresa May story so

far. Do get in touch and

tell us your thoughts There is so much we still do not

know about her. Let's talk to three Conservative MPs

who will be going to David Cameron's final Cabinet meeting -

the top table of ministers. Robert Halfon, who's

a Minister without Portfolio - he helps with the Government's

decision-making processes. David Mundell, Secretary

of State for Scotland. And Alun Cairns, the Secretary

of State for Wales. The last Cabinet meeting chaired by

David Cameron, Theresa May, Prime Minister in waiting, sitting around

the table, what will the atmosphere be like? It will be incredibly

moving and emotional, David Cameron has been a good Prime Minister,

doctors out of a tricky economic situation and created a lot of jobs,

and everybody will be sad to see a good Prime Minister leave. I think

we all want to express gratitude to David Cameron, six difficult years

with the coalition but keeping the country together, making sure we got

the economy turned around, winning a general election for the

Conservatives with a majority, we have all got to the grateful to him

for that. But I think he will be very pleased that he is being

succeeded by someone he believes will be competent to take on this

great office and move the country forward. Will it be awkward in

their? I don't think so, there will be a lot of warm up for the Prime

Minister, recognition for what he has achieved. Remember where he took

the party from, Douglas back into Government, coalition first and then

back into Government with the economic changes that we have seen,

and I think there will be a lot of

optimism because we are moving to the next phase of governance under a

new Prime Minister. Theresa May knows everybody around the Cabinet

table exceptionally well because she has been there from the outset and

has seen people come and go. She will want to put her stamp on the

next Government. Is this meeting really you saying thank you and

goodbye to your old boss? There is a job to do, there is a full Cabinet

agenda that we will discuss, a range of issues. What is the point, the

new woman takes over tomorrow! The job of Government does not stop, it

has been ongoing throughout this uncertain period... Barely! Not at

all! The important thing gives, we are about to have a good Prime

Minister, she is a remarkable woman with huge strength of character, a

huge worker, she will unify the party and the country and I think

she will safeguard the security of our country. That statement you just

made, a unifier of the party, the Conservative MPs are to decide that,

and the country. We have got some voters here, let's see what they

think about whether Theresa May is a unifier of the country bearing in

mind the journey of the country since the vote to leave the.

Unifier? I think she kept a low enough profile during the referendum

debate that she can be a unifier but it depends what team she brings in

with her. Let's move that along, unifier? I'm not convinced, it is a

big job. How is she going to do it? Can she really sway from in, out,

out, in? Can she? I'm not convinced. As a low-key Remainer, can she take

Britain out of the U? I think Theresa May is a career politician

and I think during the referendum this is what she was playing for.

She was, first of all, muttering that she was for leave, and suddenly

she was for Remain, and coming up to the referendum we did not hear from

her at all. She did make one or two speeches. The important thing is she

is going to appoint a senior Brexiteer in her Cabinet to manage

the withdrawal from the European Union. Would you imagine that a

bidder currently do the House of Commons, Chris Grayling? Who knows

who it is going to be? Boris Johnson?! Who knows. But it is about

compassionate conservatism, she said she wants to attack crony

capitalism, make sure working people are protected from being thrown on

the scrapheap. She sounded like a Labour Leader at that point, don't

you think? She sounded like Theresa May, the compassionate Conservative

I know her to be. It would have been easy for her yesterday to move to

the right in order to appeal to the Tory grassroots, which, if we are

honest, hard to the right of the party. She could have handed to them

but she didn't, she made a mainstream speech, focused on one

nation conservatism, making the economy work forward ordinary

people, rather than pandering to what would have been an easy

short-term win but a long-term defeat. There has not been a

Conservative leadership contest in the end so we have not had much time

to scrutinise her views, for example, on the economy. She talked

yesterday about wanting to make an economy that works for everyone,

that is going to be so hard because it depends on growth, which depends

on Brexit, which in the short-term could hurt? She is not denying this

could be a tough job, she did not take it on because it will be an

easy ride, she has been offered that there are significant challenges

ahead but she has committed to Brexit, and she will deliver that.

But what does Brexit mean? She is looking to get the best possible

deal for the UK and I think she is able to negotiate that, able to deal

with Angela Merkel, to carve out for Britain a new role in the world

because that will be very important in terms of trade and the economy.

But she is not somebody going into this with her eyes closed, her eyes

are wide open in relation to the challenges, and she is somebody up

to that scale of challenge. This will be, her Government, will be a

Government with the aspiration to create jobs and sort out the economy

but also being compassionate on welfare, helping with mental health.

She has bought in a law to strengthen domestic silence... She

has done a lot in terms of domestic abuse, bringing in the corrosive

control legislation is, but she also voted for every measure in the last

six years which you would say was important for reducing the deficit

which had a massive impact on the lives of some of the most honourable

people in our country so to suddenly hear this compassion given --

compassionate conservatism might ring hollow. If we had not tackled

the deficit over the last six years the country would be in a more

difficult place, nobody denied some of the decisions taken were tough

decisions but they were taken in order to turn round the economy. I

think that we now understand, particularly as we are going to go

through the Jews around Brexit, that we have to loosen the financial

tightening... She has already said that. So we are going to move

forward on that. You have talked about a good leader, confident, what

is she like as a person? Do you remember the time when she was

Conservative Party chairman? She would have toured the party, length

and breadth, and could be a very funny after-dinner speaker. She can

be focused but warm as well and I think she has got so many skills and

will appeal to so many different people, and I feel we can be

optimistic about this, we are moving to the next stage and we have a

leader fitting of the role. Most of us will not have seen that warmth,

is that true, is she a warm person, does it matter? She is tough, we

want a tough Prime Minister, but she is compassionate as well. A few

years ago we had a horrific incidents of domestic violence in my

constituency where a young girl and boy were beaten to death and Theresa

May. Involved Posthumus lead to help the family, which she did not have

to do because the Home Office said they could not help, she went

against the advice of her junior ministers, she has compassion and

stands up for things when it counts. Thank you all very much. The last

cabinet meeting, it is about 9:15am... We will have to run! Thank

you for your time. Let's hear more from our voters. Do

you believe she is warm? Does it matter? I wish my friends would talk

about me like that! I am a bit worried about all of the talk of

including everybody because it seems Fallon? Mr Grayling, are you going

to be the Brexit Minister? Are you going to handle the Brexit

negotiations? That is Chris Grayling, he may be the man charged

with handling Brexit, it is Theresa May said she will create a specific

post for somebody to handle everything. There is such a jagged.

Will you still be in the Government, do you think? That has to be in the

back of the mind of all these ministers, a lot of them are sitting

around the Cabinet table, but maybe it will be goodbye, good night, no

more. This is Theresa May's moment of maximum power, she comes in with

the vote from MPs, she has got a clean slate, she can do what she

wants. If she wants to clear out a load of people, this is the moment.

As far as I can work out, she has not necessarily promised certain

roles to certain people in the last week or so when it was clear she was

putting herself forward for leadership. I think that is a good

point. When the contest was under way, there were talks about Boris

Johnson trying to meet her to do a deal, and when he phoned up her

people, the one word that kept coming back was, she does not do

deals. She did not want to meet him or offer a compromise.

and shape the success or otherwise of her premiership. It is a moment

of change, but everything we know about her is she is not flashy, she

does not go in for big gestures. Patrick MacLachlan winding his way

in. A question about whether the Heathrow decision might be

accelerated, there was the logjam because of Boris Johnson brooding

over the whole thing. There has been talk about how we need to give a big

message that we are open for business, and the Heathrow decision

might get fast tracked. That is Liz truss just going in, she was a

prominent supporter of Remain. Who knows what will happen. Can I ask

about the Chancellor? The thinking is Theresa May

yesterday set out a big pitch, she talked about the need for big

economic reform, she said the Government had done plenty on social

reform, but enough on fundamental economic reform. It was seen as a

criticism of the Chancellor. And he has been there a long time, he has

had a rough time in recent budgets. You think of the rumpus over tax

credits, over disability benefits. He has had to throw away his deficit

reduction plans, he said forget having a surplus by 2020. Theresa

May may decide, time is up. Who would step into the hot seat? A lot

of people think it could be Philip Hammond, he has a money background,

he could move there, and George Osborne could move to the Foreign

Office. Back with you very shortly, as people arrived. Waiting for

Theresa May, to attend David Cameron's last Cabinet meeting.

She said it was important that there were some prominent Leavers in the

Cabinet. Is it important for other people as well? I think we need to

find out who she will have in her Cabinet about -- before we decide

what sort of Prime Minister she will be. Whether she will be in the

centre or a traditional Conservative. I think she will be a

second Margaret Thatcher. Some of her policies on immigration, voting

for Syrian air strikes, but against bringing Syrian children here,

tuition fees, I am scared and sceptical. But I will wait to see

who she has in her Cabinet. She will have a lot of work to do. She will

have to be strong, stronger than Margaret Thatcher. Is that possible?

It may be. There should not be an election now, it would divide the

country more. She should get some help from the Conservative Party.

She should unify the country. Introduce yourselves, your name,

where you were from, what you would normally be doing, so our audience

have an idea about you and your life. Harvey. What do you do? I am a

student Aboriginal University. You don't look like a student! I am

going to an award ceremony after this! Theresa May is well-placed to

unify country. On the Remain side, we cannot discount a lot of people

voted Remain, and if it was a Brexiter, we could have seen a

skewed outcome. By being a Remainer, she can pull the country with her.

There are things that both sides want to see, certain things about

migration, whether it turns to free movement of workers as opposed to

people, those kind of questions need to be asked, everybody needs to be

taken with them, the country, the Cabinet. Are you a Conservative

supporter? I am, yes. Why did you say it like that? I am a proud

Conservative voter, bigoted idiots have got an excellent record. -- the

Conservatives have got an excellent record. I voted Leave, Britain is

well placed in the world to make those trade deals. Democracy comes

to the heart of it, the EU is not democratic, so many people have

fought for democracy, we can not be part of an organisation that refuses

to reform. Good morning. I am a speech writer for an MP and a

technology headhunter. That is a heck of a combination! Interesting!

Different days of the week! Brexit means Brexit, there has been talk

about needing a Brexiteer. There is a firm line there will be no Rene

Krhin by the Tory Government on this. People who think you want a

Brexit to negotiate Brexiter will be disappointed, because every Brexiter

has a different idea of what it is. Teresa may have the mandate, and she

will have clear leadership. She has unify the Tory party, she is yet to

unify Northern Ireland and Scotland. That might be impossible. We will

see. Hello. You want Brexiteers and Remainers in her team. She has got

to think about calling an election. Perhaps next year. But at about a

mandate, I don't think she has a mandate. Would that bring another

layer of uncertainty? But it's what we don't want. It does not lead to

economic stability or growth, and that is what we need. The

Conservative Party were voted in on a manifesto, it was David Cameron's

mandate, it has transferred to Theresa May. Unless she departs from

it, she retains the mandate. There is political exhaustion in this

country after a general election last year, two referendums in recent

memory, we don't need more turmoil and exhaustion. We will talk about

whether there should be a general election later. Hold it! Pause!

Don't peak too soon! We will come back to that conversation. A couple

of comments from you. I believe Theresa May, says John, will be a

super Prime Minister, at certain times leaders have come along and

grab the bat on, and she will be one of those. Phillips says, she is the

most right wing prime ministers since Margaret Thatcher.

Philip Hammond moving in, are you moving to the Treasury? Are you

taking over from George Osborne? Philip Hammond heading in, we still

waiting Theresa May. What's the betting she rides last to make an

impact? We have most of the Cabinet in, Michael Gove one of the early

ones. We will not see the Chancellor going in that door. We have got most

of the main players, still no sight of Theresa May. We are told this

final Cabinet will kick off with David Cameron making a few

valedictory remarks, he will reflect on his time as Prime Minister. Quite

a poignant moment, especially when you reflect that only a year ago he

won what too many people was a surprise general election, he pulled

his party out of the mouths of a possible hung parliament and

delivered a general election. There is David Mundell, the Scottish

secretary. Ideological to promotion? Been promised anything? I don't

think anybody will have been promised anything. Steve, stay on

this car here, please. Maybe it is Theresa May. There we go. Morning.

Are you ready for this? Are you up to the task?

No words for we humble hacks! That tells us something about the way she

may be different from David Cameron, she will probably be much less media

focused. She has never been one to pass on titbits to journalists, she

is more restrained. And in terms of her Government generally there will

be much less of a media focus, a chasing of headlines, than we saw in

the Tony Blair years and which David Cameron picked up on. A different

approach, a more small C Conservative, restrained approach.

Bearing in mind that is the last time she will have to walk in the

front door for Cabinet, because from tomorrow she will be living above

the shop. We will be back with you soon,

Norman. One viewer says, we need a woman's

touch. Another says, her gender and age are irrelevant. Another tweet

says, it is the democratic choice to vote on the EU and whether we stay

in or not but not to choose our leader? I am confused!

We will talk more about that with our voters throughout the morning.

We are live from Westminster this morning as David Cameron chairs his

final Cabinet beating as Prime Minister and as Theresa May goes in

for the last time as Home Secretary. Here's Joanna with a

summary of today's news. David Cameron is holding his final

Cabinet meeting this Theresa May, the Prime Minister in

waiting, has just arrived along with other ministers at Number Ten ahead

of Mr Cameron tendering his resignation to the Queen tomorrow,

leaving Mrs May, Home Secretary since 2010, to appoint her

ministerial team. A decision on whether Jeremy Corbyn

will be automatically included in Labour's leadership race will be

made by officials today. The party's National Executive

Committee will discuss whether he should be made to obtain

nominations in the same Mr Corbyn has vowed to fight any

exclusion from the ballot paper. New research is suggesting that

pregnancy multi-vitamins are a waste of money because most mothers-to-be

do not need them. In a review, they claim women should

take folic acid and vitamin D. But manufacturers say

that the study, which is published in the Drug And Therapeutics

Bulletin, doesn't take More than 1000 people have attended

a candlelight vigil in Dallas for the five police officers

who were killed during The gunman's parents have spoken

to the online news website The Blaze, saying their son

was changed by his experience Later today, President Obama

will speak at a memorial service, and a private funeral for the police

will be held on Friday. More than 8000 primary

schools in England - half the total number -

are to receive extra funding to adopt the South Asian

style of teaching maths. Known as Maths Mastery,

the technique relies on whole class International tests suggest that

Chinese pupils taught this way have a far higher level

of achievement than their Shares of Nintendo has sold more

than 10% in total fuelled by the craze for Pokemon Go, a smartphone

game based on the video game characters that has become the top

grossing app in the iPhone store less than a week after its release.

The augmented reality game layers gameplay onto the physical world,

letting players wonder the physical world in search of digital monsters.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

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recommend Big Sam for the England job. The Sunderland boss left the

club's pre-season training camp in Austria, on transfer business,

apparently. Jordan Spieth won't be competing

in this summer's Olympics. That means none of the world's top

four golfers will be in Rio. Spieth becomes the latest

to pull because of concerns Open champion Zach Johnson says a

busy schedule is also part of the reason.

The six-time Olympic champion is in the Jamaican team

despite pulling out of their trials with an injury.

He plans to prove his fitness at the Anniversary Games

in London later this month, the scene of his 2012 triumphs.

And Mercedes have withdrawn their appeal over

Nico Rosberg's ten-second penalty at Sunday's British Grand Prix.

He was demoted to third place overall.

Rosberg was penalised after team-radio instructions

were judged to have given him too much guidance.

More on those stories later on, but now back to Victoria at Westminster.

That Cabinet meeting chaired by David Cameron as Prime Minister for

the last time, if they were on time, started about five minutes ago. I

would love to be a fly on the wall. This morning we're at the heart

of Westminster, just outside the House of Commons,

up the road from Downing Street, And Theresa May is in that Cabinet

meeting as Home Secretary for the last time. She has been Home

Secretary for six years, she is 59 years old, the daughter of a vicar,

she has an image for being unflappable and it is known that she

has wanted to be Prime Minister for a while. How much do we know about

her? In a moment we'll talk

to two friends, but first, Let's talk now to Baroness Anne

Jenkin, who is a colleague She founded the Conservative group

Women2Win with Mrs May in 2005 to address the need to elect more

Conservative women to Parliament, and Sam Olsen, who managed her 2005

campaign for re-election. Welcome Bob W. What sort of a

womanish? -- welcome both be. She is a serious, hard-working, capable

woman, just what we want as Prime Minister. I have many anecdotes

about her, I know her well, I have had many lunches with her, I would

never gossip about her, I would get a hard stare from her if I tried.

She does not do chat about the Westminster village, who is in or

out, she takes like seriously. Would she have had a glass of champagne

with her husband last night to celebrate that she will be Britain's

next Prime Minister? I doubt it would be champagne, I think a glass

of water, keep calm and carry on. Sam may know better because he has

been her campaign manager and celebrated with her after she has

won elections, I have celebrated with her for getting more women in

parliament, but she is not a great drinker. She is not a great drinker

but that does not detract from her, she is an incredible and outstanding

woman, someone I really think will be a great leader. But the cool,

calm exterior, perhaps someone that does not enjoy a party as much as

some other people, does not mean she will be a bad brand minister,

perhaps the opposite. What we need now is that cool, calm exterior but

someone with an incredible warm, kind and generous spirit. How has

that manifested itself in the time you have no her? She is very, very

keen to look after people, she would hate me for saying it but almost

like a mother hen. My own son, when we went round there before we moved

to Hong Kong, she was looking after him, playing with him in a very

motherly way, but also when you go out to the constituents she takes an

active interest in making sure that people are doing well, looking after

their issues, and you saw yesterday with her speech about a more

inclusive Britain, that is, as far as I'm concerned, coming from her

heart because it is the method I heard every single day, how do we

make Britain better and look after people better? Almost too good to be

true, possibly? I certainly cannot tell you any nasty stories about her

because I don't know any and haven't heard any in the Westminster

village. What I was touched by yesterday, I had a tweet from a

woman saying, I have a letter she wrote to me in 2006 saying, keep

going, we will find a way to get you in. Her support for women in

Parliament, when she was elected she was one of 13 Conservative women

MPs. In 1997. The same as 1931. Today we have 68, and a lot of those

women, especially the 2010 cohort, the 2015 women belonged to me and

2010 she, as Sam was saying, was the mother hen to them, always on the

phone to them, encouraging, supporting, keeping them going at a

time they might have felt disheartened or that the

Conservative Party was not very welcoming to more women in its

ranks. We have voters here who have voted for all sorts of parties and

voted different ways in the EU referendum. You may have questions

for people who know Theresa May well. At a time when we are talking

about Brexit, overly concerned about domestic policies and the crisis

going on in politics at the moment, I think we are forgetting about what

is Mrs May's standing going to be in the world, outside of Europe, as a

woman who has voted consistently for military intervention in

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, never with a plan afterwards and I

want to know what kind of foreign policy credentials she had and how

she will take the country forward in terms of our standing in the world,

where will we be with the hundreds of thousands of migrants crossing

the Mediterranean. That is a difficult question to answer because

we know little... We know how she has voted but in terms of her views

on foreign policy right now... She was not in charge of an after plan.

With her in charge I am confident there would be an after plan. She

has been in the Cabinet. But she has not been the defence or Foreign

Secretary, involved in foreign policy. But I can imagine her on the

world stage, I can imagine she would not let us down. She is a woman of

substance, she would want to be involved in discussions with Angela

Merkel, for example, I can imagine them doing business together. That

business with -- that picture of David Cameron doing business on a

lake with Angela Merkel, I can imagine, they will not be talking

about getting their legs waxed, they will be getting down to the serious

issues. A woman of substance, she promised to bring net migration down

to the tens of thousands but has spectacularly failed on that, so is

that worth bearing in mind or do we ignore that? Every politician will

fail on something at some point. She kept making promise! She has

succeeded in a great number of things, how many people succeeded in

getting rid of Abu Hamza? How many people have taken on the police and

succeeded? To your question, we don't know what will happen with

foreign policy so until there is a new Foreign Secretary, but with her

attention to detail and the fact that she understands the bigger

picture and wants what is best for Britain, I'm sure she will make a

good go of it. Introduce yourself? What do you normally do? I'm Chris,

I would normally be in the office in Nottingham. Everybody sings the

praises that she is a warm, lovely woman, which is fantastic, but she

has a divisive immigration record, she sent vans around the capital

city as in people to go home, she sent 45,000 international students

once they had finished their degree, so how can we believe she is that

warmth with this divisive policy? I think we are starting again with a

fresh sheet. One thing that was clear from the Brexit vote is that

we have got a very divided society. People are very concerned about this

as an issue, nobody has asked anybody in this country from when

the Labour Party started their mass immigration Project, is this the

Britain you want to live in? This is a moment to take stock, to start

again on immigration policy, knowing who is in this country, and she will

get a group of it, I'm confident about it. I am Ricciardo, University

of Surrey. Theresa May has proven that she has managed to unite the

Conservative Party, but my worry is... It is early days, let's be

fair! For now, at least! For today! My concern is that we have heard

from Aaron Banks, one of the main donors for Ukip, that if Theresa May

once then it would be Ukip on steroids, people disappointed that

Brexit is not going the way they want and it will boost support for

Ukip. Do you have any way to counter that narrative that Ukip will

suddenly rise at the expense of the Conservative Party or other

political parties in the current system? My own feeling is that you

are right, the Ukip genie is out of the bottle bit. I think that when

she says Brexit is Brexit, she means it, that is what people have voted

for, she has to deliver on that or that is where Aaron Banks and the

new Ukip party, whatever it will become, becomes really dangerous,

and she knows that, she is a grown-up politician with a lot of

experience, she knows the danger of not delivering, of letting people

down again, and I think if she does that then he will not get any

traction. But if not, and this is a danger more for Labour, really, in

their traditional heartlands, Hartlepool voted 70% out, Doncaster,

all these places that people feel neglected by the political class,

and that is why I think her out reach yesterday was so important,

that she was so clear she wants to change the way we do things. It will

be different, I hope it will be reflecting the point she made

yesterday. Thank you both, I am going to let you go, Sam Olsen and

Baroness Jenkin, thank you for telling us what you can about

Theresa May. Ken Clarke was doorstep earlier, he

was caught on Mike inadvertently describing Theresa May as a bloody

difficult woman, here is what he said not long ago.

She will take a week or two to get a team together, to get everybody's

head around what the negotiating position will be. 27 other

governments will have their position. Negotiation will be given

a date before we get there. I hope she can put in Article 50 after a

few weeks of proper preparation and then get on with the relationships

with the rest of Europe first, sort that out quickly, because the

uncertainty is very damaging. You referred to her now is a difficult

woman, is that the right reputation coming into what will be a difficult

negotiation? We need a difficult woman. I did not compare her to

Margaret Thatcher, I also said she was good, and I always get on with

her all right. She is a different politician, different from Tony

Blair and David Cameron. It is high time we had a tough, pragmatic

politician. She is her own woman. That is a good quality, if you are

going to be a Prime Minister at a time like this. What would be your

advice in terms of building a cabinet, keeping the party together?

I don't Incheon needs advice. My guess is she has her own strong

views, she will know who she wants doing what, and she also has

political skills. She has to have a mix of Remainers and Leavers. Her

party is divided, she has a tiny majority, which is not big enough to

do anything difficult over the next four years, unless you are very

careful. Political skill, she has to put together a cabinet that covers

the opinion's the spectrum of serious opinion, but you will put

her own people in. We don't want another circus with another general

election, arguing over the personalities. I can give you

countless examples of prime ministers who become Prime Minister

because they have got a firm elected Parliamentary majority. He don't

have to have a general election. Sections of the media so enjoyed the

ridiculous and terrible referendum campaign, they look forward to

another three or four weeks of the same mayhem. No, Theresa May has a

job to do, she will do it in her own way, and she has got to get back to

governing a sophisticated, modern country, which is in something of a

crisis. Things will get worse if we don't get somebody taking cold of

the reins. Ken Clarke talking about that

difficult woman, as he said, he also said she was good. This e-mail says,

Theresa May claims she will be fair to the working people, the Tories

will never do that. Craig says, she is not a fan of foreigners, she is a

career politician, never really had a top job, voted to increase tuition

fees, Sheila 's charisma, she voted against the GPT right in Parliament.

Angela said, best woman for the job. Manic says, the wrong person to be

Prime Minister. And so on, I have got loads of those. I will read as

many as I can. Let's talk about the prospect of a general election.

"The Prime Minister is running scared of a general election."

That was Theresa May's verdict on Gordon Brown when he failed

to call a general election after taking over from

Fast forward nine years and Theresa May is now resisting

What's changed, though, since 2007 is a piece

of legislation called the Fixed Terms Parliament Act,

introduced in 2011 by David Cameron, which means general elections only

take place every five years unless there is a vote of no

confidence in the Government or two-thirds of MPs vote

This century, including Theresa May there have been 24 Prime Ministers,

half of whom were not elected after a general election.

Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron believes an early general election

is the only fair option for the British people.

And also with us Conservative MP Ed Vaizey, who says his party

will carry on business as usual with Teresa May in charge,

so an early election is completely unnecessary.

I don't think we need an election, we have been through the trauma of

the referendum. Theresa May's appointment shows we need a period

of stability. We won an election a year ago with a clear manifesto,

which she will now implement, along with the difficulties of Brexit. The

argument has got to be that her words are the answer that she has to

now follow. Very different scenario now. In many ways identical. She was

being crowned leader without there being an election, just like Gordon

Brown. The difference is these are extreme circumstances, where the

need for a fresh mandate is clear. There is an argument for an early

election on that basis. I hear the argument about stability and the

mandate given 14 months ago. The mandate 14 months ago was because of

the ability or the thought that they were a competent ministration to

look after the economy, they have just trashed it and made Norman

Lamont look quite effective by comparison. There is a need for the

Prime Minister to have a clear mandate as to what kind of religion

should we have with Europe. People were not given the option to vote

for it. We have a group of voters, most are Conservative supporters, we

have some Labour and Ukip. Who would like in the next six months a

general election? Who thinks it is necessary? Can I just say something?

No, just answer the question first. Do you want a general election? Yes,

I think I do. I think it would be democracy. Who wants the general

election in 2020, when it is supposed to happen? Most of you. I

have a different view. If Theresa May decides to step away from the

manifesto, at that point we need a general election. I have never seen

an elected Prime Minister. It is not a presidential system. When you

elect your MP, you let them into Parliament, and the Government do

the manifesto that they are supposed to do. At this stage, if we have a

general election, she could be an opportunist, because I don't see 400

plus MPs saying, yes, putting forward a vote of no-confidence. I

don't see it happening. A snap general election is the worst threat

to the Brexit vote. Tim Farron's party has a general -- golden

opportunity, with the Labour Party in turmoil. I worked for the Leave

campaign, I take a tiny and out of responsibility. If we were to have

another election, it would increase the uncertainty. We should let

things calm down. They said to hold off, perhaps in the next six months.

Instead of a general election, why can't they put it to the

Conservative members? What would be the point? To see if they agree with

Theresa May stepping in. After all, she has got four fifths of the term

to be Prime Minister. Tim Farron's political arguments are attractive

as to why she needs a new mandate, but we need to look at the apartment

is of the situation, the nation is divided, the markets are nervous.

The prospect of having another, vision Government, more months of

uncertainty and wrangling and horse trading around which mandate would

be adopted, we have seen it before, do we need six general, sorry, three

general elections in six years? This is the uncertainty you get with

these single party Government, we crave the stability of coalition! I

also point out, you talked about she has a mandate from a year ago, have

things changed? I would argue they have. The 52% have a right to expect

that the Government's process is towards Brexit, but nobody was asked

what kind of religion should you want with Europe going forward. Some

will want an isolationist stance, some want almost everything except

being in the EU, where does Theresa May argue for? Before you answer

that, let's go back to Downing Street.

We just saw Ruth Davidson, the Scottish Tory leader, arriving.

Interesting, not just because she is late, but what is the significance

of her coming to this cabinet? She was one of the big voices on the

Remain side in the referendum campaign, many people thought she

dominated the last Wembley Arena debate, when she was coughing Boris

Johnson left, right and centre, and had a good go at Andrea Leadsom

after the remarks about whether being a mother gave you an advantage

as a politician. She got stuck into Andrea Leadsom for making those

remarks. There might be speculation about could she made the geek's

maybe be given a post down here? It is interesting she is here, albeit

her plane was delayed, because she has turned up half an hour late.

Norman with us through the morning, popping up from Downing Street to

tell us who is walking in the front door of number ten. Ruth Davidson, a

colleague of yours. Why do you think that might be? I have no idea. She

is down for the lobby lunch, lunching with political journalists,

maybe she is paying a courtesy call for thanking the Prime Minister. I

want to talk about the Cabinet meeting. You were backing Michael

Gove in the leadership race for the Conservative Party leader. We know

what happened there. How is he? He is in good heart, I saw him last

night, he seemed chipper. Like the rest of the party, he is supportive

of Theresa May now she is becoming our Prime Minister. Does he feel he

has imploded? He find it interesting that he is now a byword for

betrayal, because he did not betray anybody, he fought for a principle,

leading the EU. Does he understand the people who say he is a political

assassin? The understand things have not been brilliant, but he is ready

to serve Theresa May, if that is what she wants, and he is supportive

of the new Government. In terms of a general election, it will not

happen, despite your best efforts, is it? I understand the briefing

that have come out of the prospective number ten, that is what

they say at this point. The case for there being one is hugely important.

Particularly important that the people get to decide what kind of

relationship the UK has with our partners going forward. Without an

election of any kind until 2020, we could have jumped out of the plane

without a parachute, not having had the chance to decide what kind of

parachute, economic area or something else, we have in the

intervening period. It seems to be anti-democratic. Nobody has been

given any mandate for that kind of decision, that is why the public

should have their say. You are bathed in sunshine there, we

are not all like that. We have this picture from Gloucestershire of

showers. We have showers across western Scotland, Northern Ireland,

the driest conditions across northern England and eastern

Scotland. The showers will drift east through the day, some of them

will be torrential and thundery. The risk of localised flooding for the

Midlands, East Anglia and the south-east. Tonight the showers

merge in the south-east, so they will be heavier. Behind them, a

clearance in the sky, a lot of dry weather, and showers coming into the

West, loan in on a breeze. Tomorrow, we start with this rain in

the south-east. It moves away through the morning. For many, it

will be dry with sunshine, that there will also be showers. You

could almost catch a shower anywhere. The driest conditions will

be in the south-west. The temperatures will feel quite

pleasant. Theresa May is the new leader of the

Conservative Party and will be Britain's new Prime Minister by

tomorrow night. Those who know her have been telling us what to expect.

She is a different type of politician, different from the Tony

Blair, David Cameron mould, and I think it is time for a tough,

pragmatic politician. She's not going into this with her eyes

closed, her eyes are wide open in relation to the challenges, and she

is somebody up to the scale of the challenge. She can be quite

disciplined and focused but warm as well, and I think she has got so

many skills that will appeal to so many different people, and we can be

optimistic about this. This is a moment to take stock, start again on

our immigration policy, know who is in the country, and she will get a

grip of it, I'm confident about it. We are at Westminster this morning,

and later in the programme we will hear from an audience of voters who

will debate David Cameron's legacy at Prime Minister, but how would you

sum it up in one word? Unfair, disappointing? Slimy. Moderate.

Pragmatic. Thank you very much for those

adjectives! We will talk more to our voters later in the programme, David

Cameron holding his last ever Cabinet meeting as Prime Minister

right now and Theresa May currently planning her first ever Cabinet.

The clock is ticking for Mrs May as she has just 48 hours to shape a new

Government and decide whether to keep or call the beasts.

Here's Joanna with a summary of the day's news.

David Cameron is chairing his final Cabinet meeting this morning,

before Theresa May takes over as Prime Minister tomorrow.

Mrs May, the Prime Minister in waiting, was among the early

Her aides have rejected calls for a snap general election -

arguing that last month's referendum gives her a mandate to negotiate

A decision on whether Jeremy Corbyn will be automatically included

in Labour's leadership race will be made by officials today.

The party's National Executive Committee will discuss

whether he should be made to obtain nominations in the same

Mr Corbyn, who faces a challenge from the former Shadow Business

Secretary Angela Eagle, has vowed to fight any exclusion from the ballot

paper. New research is suggesting that

pregnancy multi-vitamins are a waste of money because most mothers-to-be

do not need them. In a review, they claim women should

take folic acid and vitamin D. But manufacturers say

that the study, which is published in the Drug And Therapeutics

Bulletin, doesn't take More than 1000 people have attended

a candlelight vigil in Dallas for the five police officers

who were killed during The gunman's parents have spoken

to the online news website The Blaze, saying their son

was changed by his experience Later today, President Obama

will speak at a memorial service, and a private funeral for the police

will be held on Friday. More than 8000 primary

schools in England - half the total number -

are to receive extra funding to adopt the South Asian

style of teaching maths. Known as Maths Mastery,

the technique relies on whole class International tests suggest that

Chinese pupils taught this way have a far higher level

of achievement than their Shares of Nintendo has soared more

than 10% in Tokyuo fuelled by the craze for Pokemon Go,

a smartphone game based on the video game maker's characters that has

become the top-grossing app The augmented reality game layers

gameplay onto the physical world, letting players wander the physical

world in search of digital monsters. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30am. Five-time Olympic champion

Sir Steve Redgrave has told us male golfers are using the Zika virus

as an excuse not to compete None of the world's top four players

will be in Rio after two-time Major winner Jordan Spieth

was the latest to pull out Although Open champion Zach Johnson

says a busy schedule is part It is a money orientated sport, they

do not earn money for going to the Olympics. I think Zach Johnson did

sum it up and I wish they would all come out and say that is the reason

they are not going, instead of using another excuse. If you are an

Olympic athlete who has trained for four years to go to these games, you

are not going to give it up, you will make sure you have that

opportunity. The six-time Olympic Champion

is in the Jamaican team despite pulling out of their trials

with an injury. He plans to prove his fitness

at the Anniversary Games in London later this month,

the scene of his 2012 triumphs. If Sam Allardyce needs a reference

for the England job, look no further than one

of his previous bosses. West Ham co-owner David Gold says

he wouldn't hesitate to recommend Big Sam for the job,

as the FA look for a As we understand it,

the Sunderland boss hasn't But he has left the club's

pre-season training camp in Austria. That is all the sport for now.

Welcome to the programme, you join us at a very sunny Westminster. We

have a group of voters here talking about the momentous events of the

last couple of weeks and the fact that we have not only a new leader

of the Conservative Party but, from tomorrow night, a new Prime

Minister. I don't know if you agree with this but do you remember at

primary school when it was really hot in the summer and your teacher

would let you have a lesson outside?! There is that sort of

Keady feeling amongst you, if you don't mind me saying so! Perhaps a

parochial analogy when we consider the importance of what is happening

in Downing Street, one of the most important jobs facing Theresa May in

the next 36 hours or so before she officially takes over at Number Ten

is which Conservative MPs to include in her new Cabinet. No doubt pretty

much every single ambitious MP is telling her why they think they

should be included. So who will she reward? Lets talk to our political

Guru, Norman, who is trying to work it out.

The key thing to understand at this moment is that this is a moment of

maximum power for Theresa May, when she can do what she wants, mistress

of all she surveys, she can boot everyone out of the Cabinet or keep

everyone in. So this is the time when she can totally reshape the

Government. Move out some of the key players, bring in new names. What

might we expect? A lot of focus inevitably on the Chancellor, George

Osborne. Listening to what Mrs May has said so far, most people think

he is on the move, because she was critical of his lack of fundamental

reform of the economy in her speech yesterday, and there is a pew that

Mr Osborne has been there and all long time, there have been some

pretty significant gaps, look at the row recently over disability

benefits, over tax credits, so he could maybe be after the Foreign

Office. Who could replace in? The smart money is on Philip Hammond,

the Foreign Secretary, thought to be good with money, a safe pair of

hands, he has been Chief Secretary to the Treasury before. When he was

Defence Secretary he got a hold of the defence Budget, which was

thought to be an unholy horror. What else is of interest in this Cabinet

shake-up? Of course, one Boris Johnson of London. What will happen

to him? Will he be bought in all cast into the wilderness? There are

people on both sides of the divide, some who think you could be given a

job as party chairman, cheer up the party faithful. Others think the way

he behaved, the treachery, which it is claimed he showed to David

Cameron, means it is time for him to be stabbed in the back and

dispatched. Another prominent Brexiteer, all eyes on Michael Gove,

we saw him speaking into Cabinet, parked the car in front of Number

Ten so we could not get a decent shout at him. Might he be sent

hither? There is a view that Theresa May might want to keep him in his

current post as Justice Secretary to finish the job of prison reform,

regarded as one of the big outstanding reforms no Government

has really got to grips with. Lastly, let's talk about Brexit,

because Mrs May has said she will create a Brexit minister to

mastermind our departure from the EU, and she said it will go to a

Brexiteer. The cast list is narrowed down. Could it be Chris Grayling? He

was her campaign manager, viewed by many as having fought a rather

adroit referendum campaign, did not get involved in the argy-bargy, he

seemed to stress a rather more level-headed approach which might

appeal to Mrs May. Also worth suggesting Liam Fox. How so? Liam

Fox introduced Mrs May at her launch, her aborted launch speech

yesterday, and came out in favour of her when he was knocked out of the

leadership contest, a prominent Brexiteer who have also been Defence

Secretary, perhaps he could be Mr Brexit. The last person, possibly,

David Davis, another big name on the Tory Brexit side, he, too, came out

in favour of Mrs May. What is interesting about him is that he has

had so many tussles with Mrs May over civil liberties issues, it

would be seen as an act of reconciliation, binding the party

together were she to bring him in. But let me say, trying to pick the

runners and riders is one big fat mug 's game because, really, the

only person who knows what is going to happen is Theresa May.

Absolutely right there. Let's hear more from Chris Grayling, Theresa

May's campaign manager, famously eight lever whereas Mrs May is a

Remainer. It came as a bit of surprise to all

of us, I think Andrea did the right thing given the fact that two months

of uncertainty would not have helped the country but yesterday morning

was a surprise to all of us. How unprepared is Theresa May for her

new role as Prime Minister? She's not unprepared, she is stepping up

after six years as Home Secretary and did we think about the prime

ministerial responsibilities number one most of the time is security and

she has been steeped in that for years. She also has the task of the

European Union and the process of leaving it on her desk as well but I

think she is as well prepared as anybody could be for the job. Her

first job is to give out Cabinet jobs, you will be promoted,

presumably? I was clear when I offered to chair her campaign, I did

not want a job offer, I would not have voted for somebody who was

dispensing job offers. But would you like to be chief Brexit negotiator?

What I do, if I do, is down to her, and the important thing now, we are

Conservatives again, not Levers or Remainers, and it is for her to pick

the best people for the jobs. How does she unite Great Britain, if it

is possible? By being as thoughtful leader, pursuing the one nation

agenda that is part of what we are trying to G that the moment,

bringing a new dimension to that, making sure the process of leaving

the EU is done sensibly and carefully with national interest top

of the mind and being a strong, smart leader, and that is what she

will do. Chris Grayling talking to us earlier

before ashing to the Cabinet meeting. We will have a new Prime

Minister tomorrow night, what happens to the old one?

It's not yet clear when David Cameron will vacate Number Ten,

or whether he'll say anything outside Downing Street

Here's how previous Prime Ministers have done it.

Good afternoon, Prime Minister! Where there is discord, may we bring

harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is

doubt, may we bring faith. Where there is despair, may we bring hope.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are leaving Downing Street for the last time

after 11.5 wonderful years, and we are very happy that we leave the

United Kingdom in a very, very much better state than when we came here

11.5 years ago. It is a very exciting thing to

become leader of the Conservative Party, and particularly exciting to

follow one of the most remarkable leaders the Conservative Party has

ever had. When the curtain falls, it is time

to get off the stage, and that is what I propose to do. I shall,

therefore, ad buys my Parliamentary colleagues that I believe that it

would be appropriate for them to consider the selection of a new

leader of the Conservative Party to lead the party through opposition

during the years that might immediately ahead -- the years that

lie ahead. I have just accepted the invitation

of Her Majesty The Queen to form a Government. This will be a new

Government with new priorities. Only those who have held the office

of Prime Minister can understand the full weight of its responsibilities

and its great capacity for good. I have been privileged to learn much

about the very best in human nature, and a fair amount about its

frailties, including my own. Her Majesty The Queen has asked me

to form a new Government, and I have accepted.

On Wednesday, I will attend the House of Commons for Prime

Minister's Questions, and then after that I expect to go to the palace

and offer my resignation, so you will have the new Prime Minister in

that building behind me by Wednesday evening. Thank you very much.

HE HUMS A JUNE. So what kind of legacy

will David Cameron leave behind? Let's speak to Jim Waterson,

who's political editor of Buzzfeed, Isabel Hardman, deputy editor

of the Conservative-supporting political magazine The Spectator,

and Anushka Asthana, the political editor

of The Guardian newspaper. What was he coming? Classic FM did

an analysis, my favourite was a copycat of an Alan Partridge clip.

What would you say about his legacy? If you had written it a year ago,

the first Prime Minister to win a Conservative majority in 20 years,

setting out your nice handover, and now it just will be Europe, in the

same way that Tony Blair is Iraq. Would you agree? Yes, it is sad for

him that everybody willing him to the EU. What he wanted was to wake

up to a Remain vote and unroll his life chances strategy that has been

going on, led by the Department for Work and Pensions. I remember text

in one of his strategists, he said, ask the right wing of the

Conservative Party. You say it is sad, but David Cameron offered the

country a referendum. It was a way of managing his own party. He did

not follow through with an affective renegotiation. He said last year he

thought his legacy would be fixing the economy, solving the question of

Scotland and the question of Britain within Europe. That is looking

pretty good! Lets put Europe to one side, which nobody will, in terms of

history. What else should we look at in terms of his legacy? He has

brought in some interesting social reforms, on education he brought in

same-sex marriage as well, even though it was hugely bruising for

his party, he pursued it. But Europe will dominate, and it will be

difficult for him to forge the life chances legacy he was hoping to

pursue. How different will Theresa May's Premiership be? Had you asked

me when she was Home Secretary, I would have said some of the Liberal

Democrats described her as pretty socially Conservative, they would

have said barely a liberal on lots of things, but she did a speech

yesterday, it was supposed to be the start of the leadership battle, but

then we realised it was the speech of a minister, and it sounded a bit

like Ed Miliband, it was about workers' right. I spoke to the

deputy chair of the Tories, he said it is going after the Labour votes

whilst Labour are in trouble. Will David Cameron be pleased it is

Theresa May taking over? Is she a continuity candidate, or are we

lulled into a false sense of the director? More pleased than if

Andrea Leadsom had taken over, along with most of the parliamentary

party. She has more chance of protecting his legacy. The main

thing is the economic approach, we don't know where she will go. The

talk of putting people on board. It is an indication of Ed Miliband in

some ways, some of his policies creeping in. We don't know about her

economy, because there was not a leadership contest, we have not been

able to scrutinise or ask those kind of questions. There are huge gaps in

what she thinks. We are going to get to know her as Prime Minister,

because there was not a leadership contest, but we have not been able

to scrutinise her record as Home Secretary either. There was no

chance for her opponents to point out that she failed to meet one of

her key targets, the net migration target, which she is still committed

to. We have talked about that with voters, it was an issue for them. In

terms of your new cabinet, this is really important for her, trying to

bring the party together, which is essential for a new Prime Minister.

Who will she give jobs to? This is the worst question in politics now!

I do quite like Philip Hammond to the Treasury, that seems to make

sense. He could be her new Chancellor. I I'm not sure about a

job for Boris, I don't see how you could give him something that major.

I will leave that one. Can you reflect on the last two and a half

weeks or so? My goodness. It has been more packed than the rest of my

career, it has been moving at triple speed. If it continues, we will have

had five ministers -- five prime ministers by the end of next week.

Everybody has been possessed by their own careers, it has not been

about the Government and about what happens to this country after

Brexit. Jeremy Corbyn refusing to budge, ministers campaigning for one

another, maybe now we will start to think about what happens to written

now it has voted to leave the EU. We hardly talking the impact of Brexit,

and there are loads of big impacts that will take place. It has been

like an episode of house of cards, it is a better script than they came

up with. I am sorry, I will come back, because Norman is at Downing

Street. Cabinet is finishing, I calculate

that is 50 minutes or so, much shorter than usual, but there is not

a vast amount to discuss today. We can see if there are any tribute to

David Cameron for his time. Speaking to his folk... Were there any

tributes to Mr Cameron? This must be the new Theresa May way of doing

things, people don't talk to us any more! Let's see if we can get

anybody else to talk. David Cameron's team said he would do a

valedictory statement at the start of the cabinet meeting, reflecting

on the past five years or so, and then the expectation was that there

would be tributes from other Cabinet ministers, reflecting on the

challenges and achievements. Of course, alongside being a poignant

moment, everyone's attention is shifting to Theresa May. Trying to

think what she is thinking, whether everybody will still be around the

table, or if it is the final time in Cabinet. That will form part of the

dynamic of the occasion. It will have been quite a poignant moment,

who would have predicted this? A year ago David Cameron sailed in

triumphant having clawed his party from the brick of a hung parliament.

Were there any tributes? It is be staying mum school of

politics, we are not having much joy today. We will see if anybody who is

more chatty comes out. I am sure there would have been some sort of

tribute. We will get more tomorrow, when we have Prime Minister's

Questions, Mr Cameron will take it. It will be more of a personal

statement, we saw it when Tony Blair and others did their final session.

It is a chance for them to adopt a much lighter approach. We will get

more on Mr Cameron's farewell tomorrow, alongside today's final

Cabinet. A valiant effort at shouting out

questions as they leave the Cabinet meeting. Sorry, I interrupted you,

reflecting on events. We cannot swear, there has been lots of

swearing in there. Significant moment for the Labour Party, and

then we are not interested, because we are about to get a Prime

Minister. I think he was humming The West Wing, or Black beauty. That is

a new one! We will talk about Labour in a moment. I want to ask our

voters, in terms of Mr Cameron's legacy, what would you say? I would

say it is cross-party working, he has worked with the Liberal

Democrats, and with the Labour Party on a broad range of parties --

things such as the gay marriage bill. You are a Labour supporter. It

does not matter what you say, I come from a different party, but he let

the British people decide their own future by giving us a referendum,

and I will be grateful for that. Whenever I am asked about his

legacy... Whenever you are asked about it? Do people ask you? I am

reminded of the note he was left from his first day in office, I'm

afraid there is no money left. Two and the -- to turn the economy

around, making cuts, the hard decisions have been to his credit.

And he has been progressive, lifting bans on women serving in the

military, reforming adoption, and gay marriage. But he has wiped away

the good work by calling a referendum. The economic benefit,

the triple the economy, it was wiped off in days after the referendum.

His legacy is project the. By now we are supposed to be having the third

World War, because the country voted to leave, and this is what he did

all the way through as a Prime Minister, he should have been

independent, and he would still be Prime Minister now. He will be

remembered as a manager, somebody who has held onto things, a Stuart,

to make sure Britain goes from the financial crisis, through the

challenges Fred, deal with Scotland and Europe, lead things in a way and

solve things. He took a gamble and it did not turn out the way he

wanted. We will come back to you in a second. This e-mail from Alex, it

does not matter about Theresa May being a woman, it is another leader

that is a smart leader. As long as she gets the Brexit over and done

with, I will be happy. Richard says, she will bring much-needed stability

and calm, so no general election, please. This from Tammy, Theresa May

will win the trust of the financial markets and big business, we need to

stabilise Government, though, before another general election.

Whilst all eyes are on the new Conservative leader

and Prime Minister in waiting, Labour is still continuing to riddle

The BBC's seen a solicitor's letter which threatens legal action

against the governing body of the Labour Party if Jeremy

Corbyn's prevented from contesting a leadership challenge.

Margaret Hodge is here. Come on, we were regretting the fact we could

not talk about Labour, so now is the opportunity. Have you seen this

letter? No. Jeremy Corbyn will be on the ballot paper. I don't know. Take

it a day at a time. I take a common-sense view. If you are a

leader of the Labour Party, you have to have the confidence of the

Parliamentary Labour Party, that is the group you are leading as a

potential Government, and if you have lost the confidence of 80% of

them, if you cannot even form an opposition administration because

people are not willing to serve with you, if even the elected deputy

leader says it is time you go, it is really difficult to move forward.

The role that we have got that says you have to have about 20% of the

MPs saying they are supported, it is common sense, given the role you

have to play. He will be on the ballot paper, he may well the Angela

Eagle and or Owen Smith. I don't agree. Who will beat him? I saw

Angela yesterday launching her campaign. It was interrupted, that

of the moment when Andrea Leadsom decided she was going to withdraw

from the Conservative leadership contest. Angela Eagle gave a

fantastically powerful performance, she is a strong, gutsy, witty woman.

That may be true, but those party members come 20 of them want Jeremy

Corbyn still. In terms of Labour's woes the moment, what are you

thinking? Lot of Labour MPs say that in their local parties those who

voted for Jeremy Corbyn are starting to say, we still think he is a

decent man, but he can't lead. But this is anecdotal, we don't know how

far it goes. There has been a huge surge in membership. People are not

sure where it is coming from. There is another's there may have been a

shift, even his allies say it is 50-50 whether he would win again. If

he did, it would be difficult for the party. If he wins, I can't see

where the party goes and where the MPs go.

A day at a time. The first time you said that was a week and a half ago,

he is still the leader. It takes time, we have to go through this

process, but I agree, people who supported him a year ago do feel

that he has not shown... He has been given the privilege to stand as our

leader, he has failed in that in all sorts of ways. At the last election,

over 9 million people to form a Government. We it to those

9.5 million people, and that was the lowest Labour turnout for a

generation, so we need to attract more people. It is a really serious

time in British politics, with the Brexit vote, and negotiating

something. It is our people who are likely to be the ones to suffer

most, or could suffer most, if we don't get the Brexit strategy right.

This is the time we need a stronger leader, and we need to build the

support for Labour on the doorstep. Jeremy does not have it. Angela

Eagle, another woman, would have it. I think it is brilliant that we have

more women in the front line. No-one will disagree with that but

how do you view the fact that Labour have never had it been a leader but

the Conservatives have had two the Mall Prime Minister 's? I think it

is terrible! Labour has always been the party that has promoted

equality. We have done more to get... I know! So it is about time

we had a woman leader. Angela Eagle is a woman but also has it all, she

is bright, intelligent, experienced, she is a unity candidate. She was so

funny yesterday, people say she has this dour exterior but she is a

serious politician, she is bedded in her values, she would make a great

leader of the Labour Party, a serious opposition person who would,

I think, defend, we need a strong opposition at this time, and finally

a brilliant woman Prime Minister for the Labour Party. Thank you for your

time this morning. We have got about half an hour left

in the programme, we will hear more from our voters and more comments

from you as you watch. Your views on Theresa May very welcome. Time for

the news with Joanna. David Cameron is chairing his final

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We are live at Westminster this morning, the sun has taken a break,

which is a good thing because we were all getting sunburnt down here

in front of the Houses of Parliament. Up the road, the last

ever Cabinet meeting with David Cameron wrapped up about 15 minutes

ago and we are in a sort of hiatus period, David Cameron will have his

last PMQs tomorrow lunchtime but we are waiting for Britain's next Prime

Minister. We have a number of voters here, some of them Conservative

supporters, we will hear your views particularly on Brexit in the next

half an hour, Theresa May has said Brexit means Brexit, but what does

it mean? We will discuss that in a second. She has also promised to

build a better Britain, but what will that look like?

We have got a hand that has been up for ages, Roger.

Would you like to see a woman Prime Minister?

I think it depends on who the person is, I don't think there will be

a woman Prime Minister in my lifetime.

I grew up the daughter of a local vicar and the granddaughter

Public service has been a part of who I am for

I think what the people here in Maidenhead are looking

for is who will be the best constituency member of Parliament

and obviously I think they have made the right choice tonight.

One of the most dangerous human emotions is

Today, the world is not a safer place, it is a more uncertain place,

There is a lot we need to do in this party of ours.

Our base is too narrow, and so, occasionally,

I know that is unfair, you know that's unfair,

but it is the people out there that we need to convince.

If you do not change of your own accord,

I am honoured and humbled to have been chosen by the Conservative

Brexit means Brexit, and we are going to

Second, we need to unite our country, and third, we need

a strong, new positive vision for the future of our country,

a vision of a country that works not for the privileged few but that

works for every one of us because we are going to give people

That is how, together, we will build a better Britain.

Theresa May has promised that "Brexit means Brexit", but how

When will she trigger Article 50, the now famous piece of legislation

which we mention every day at the moment, which paves the way for the

UK to leave the EU? Now divorce is on the cards,

what happens next? Well, it could be messy and it

could take some time. First things first, remember that

deal David Cameron struck I believe that this is enough for me

to recommend that the United Kingdom Instead we will be hearing

a lot about this. When the Article 50

process is triggered... Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty sets

out how a country can leave the EU. It gives a deadline,

two years to negotiate a break-up and that is it,

although it can be extended Once the wheels are in motion,

the UK is not allowed to take part We would then have 24

months to negotiate The key question is,

what taxes and restrictions, if any, What will happen to EU

workers inside the UK, and what happens to the 1.2 million

British citizens living At the same time we can start

to disentangle 40 years of EU law from our own British law, so,

for example, many environmental legislation and consumer rights

were written in Brussels and they may well need

to be replaced. When it does all start,

expect some intense negotiations Many people think full Brexit

is unlikely to happen before Let's talk more about what Theresa

May said, Brexit means Brexit, and what it means. We have got the

voters here. And Labour MP Helen Goodman,

whose Urgent Question in the Commons on Article 50 triggered

a debate last night. And Raoul Ruparel from Open

Europe. We are looking to make Brexit work

for the UK and business as a whole. What was your question in the

Commons yesterday? I wanted to know if the Government would get

Parliament's approval before they trigger Article 50, because what the

Leave campaign said what it is about taking back control and restoring

Parliamentary sovereignty. We want to know, what will the Government's

negotiating position B, a lot of promises were made during the

campaign, for example 350000000 pounds for the NHS, if that promise

is to be delivered in the opening position that Theresa May will have

to make will be no more contributions to the EU Budget, so

we want to go into that detail and give more voice so that sovereignty

is restored and for transparency for the public. At the people have

spoken, why do we need Parliament to have another boat? 70 million people

voted out. Yes, but there was no plan and there are lots of different

ideas about the way we do Brexit, so we need to go into that in more

detail. If you want to join us, sir, you are welcome. Rather than

shouting, stand at the end of the line. Let's talk about Brexit in

terms of voters. What does it mean to you, when do you want Article 50

triggered? I'm not in any rush for it to be delivered, I think we need

to get the best deal that we can. I voted Leave because I need a more

global horizon for the country, embracing opportunities from

emerging markets that are growing around the world, so I'm excited for

the possibilities of Brexit ministers in Theresa May's

Government who can initiate the process of starting trade heels with

countries like India, China, America, to create new opportunities

for us. Hello, sir, welcome to our programme, live on BBC News. What

does Brexit mean to you? Only one thing, the free movement of people.

Theresa May will do a detail with Germany, she caused Brexit in the

first place by not giving Cameron as a bit more. People voted for Brexit.

I voted out. But if you have got more on immigration I might have

voted the other way. Just to be clear, you voted out but, in terms

of how much freedom of movement of people you want, what is it? Let's

get down to the 1950s. We wanted people to come and do the work. Now,

I live in Bermondsey, come down to Bermondsey, if you hear an English

voice, let me know. I am one of the last English people left in

Bermondsey, I kid you not. All of the houses are owned by the rich,

let out to immigrants, making a fortune. You want Theresa May to be

very strict? I will move the microphone around. What does Brexit

mean to you? We want to take the law is back. I

want to see Britain leading the world, rather than following the EU.

I want to renew the links with the Commonwealth countries. That is

about it. When do you want it to start? It is difficult, because

politics is in turmoil. I would like to see a general election in the

end, just to give a lead the mandate. At the moment, you don't

know who will be the Labour Party leader, you don't know what Theresa

May is about, so it is a bit early, but perhaps in a year you could have

another general election and then start the exit. What I would like to

ask politicians... We have an -- we have a Labour MP here. Why don't we

have cross-party negotiations? What will happen if Labour get in at the

next election and the Conservatives have started the exit procedure? We

should have cross-party negotiations. You are making a good

point. One of the reasons for coming back to Parliament is so every MP

gets a voice. That was partly what I was trying to say yesterday in the

House of Commons, because different people... We have heard it from

three people today, people have different priorities, so the way we

go about this is not clear. Take the microphone. What do you say to the

idea that if we take it to Parliament, and the Labour Party and

many Remainers vote against the British people, should they be

whipped to vote with the British people, or if they vote to stay,

that calls into question whether our representatives represent the

people. Identical that will happen. There will be a series of choices to

make. Ash M I don't think that will happen. What kind of trade deals

will be have, what kind of movement between the different countries?

Different packages will be possible. I don't think there is anybody at

the moment saying that they don't want to follow the referendum, but

there are different ways of doing it, and we need to look into it. As

to when it should be held, when it should be triggered, Article 50, we

need a period of stability. The markets need to settle. Theresa May

and her cabinet need to come up with their strategy, as I am sure is

going on. Then perhaps before the end of the year, trigger Article 50,

because there will be a two-year period, which will take is up to

2019, 2020 will be the election, it needs to be done in a proper way,

with other parties included in the process, because we are going

forward as a country, and some kind of consensus needs to be made. Good

morning. You are the Pensions Minister. Are you a fan of trees

may? I am, it is the best possible news for the country. She really

cares about the country, we will get stability, she has experience, she

is a serious politician who understands what we need. She voted

Remain and she has failed to curb net migration, which is why a lot

people voted to leave. These are huge challenges, otherwise it would

have been solved by now. She has said quite clearly that people have

spoken, we have to listen, and she will get on with the job of pulling

this country together and moving forward. I have no doubt. She is the

best person to do that. It is not easy, it is a huge challenge for

anybody. She is the best possible person to do that. You have to

reconcile somehow, if this is what she wants, access to the single

market and the 500 million customers with restricting freedom of movement

of people, which is what you would take from the EU vote. Exactly. So

far, the people have spoken, we know some of what they want, then we have

to look at how we might be able to achieve that. She will be going in

to bat for Britain. That is what we want, somebody who is experienced.

She is respected, admired, in a lot of areas. For her, if anybody can,

she will be able to go out and say, this is what the British people

want. She can find the best way to move forward. Brexit means Brexit,

she has said. What does that mean? Essentially it means what you want

it to mean. We have not got much detail about what she thinks she

wants to do. She has been clear about limiting immigration, she has

talked about bringing back greater control, having a proper industrial

policy, a one nation approach, and whether it will fit with the rules

of the EU remains to be seen. How she will marry this vision with the

EU is not yet clear. How much access she is willing to give up is the

crucial question. What is your view on the point that Helen was making

in Parliament yesterday about Parliament as the sovereign body,

which is what the majority voted for, to have that vote on Article

50? The Government has been clear that it believes it is indeed

Government's prerogative to trigger article 50, and that can be brought

in later to have votes about the type of trade deals to go for. It is

not clear-cut. But they must have some strong legal advice to be so

categorical so far. It is not going to go down to lawyers, is it? There

is a court case pending. We don't know who is paying for it. I don't

know that. Irrespective of that, as a matter of principle, the

Government ought to acknowledge that people wanted parliamentary

sovereignty, and it should come back to Parliament. It will be a long

process, and before they begin, they need to say what is their plan, how

they are going to go about this, and they need to be edited vote on it. I

would like to end by thanking our voters, who have been incredibly

patient and made thoughtful contributions. I would like to hear,

as we are on the cost of a new Prime Minister, your thoughts, your hopes,

your fears, your concerns, your views. Can I have a word with The

Lady In The Van. ? -- the lady in the middle? You say you would like a

second referendum? No. I am saying that the proposals for

the new shape of our religion ship with Europe should come to

Parliament. That is what the cover much about to Parliament. You

understand, perfect. And you for your time, thank you for coming onto

the programme. What are you hoping for? You are nervous? What we are

seeing is an attempt to kick this issue into the long grass. We have

seen politicians and the elite across business and law... You don't

believe Theresa May when she says Brexit means Brexit? I believe her,

but there is a consensus across a lot of the elite in our country to

try and scupper the vote, so I am nervous. I voted Remain, but I am

optimistic. But we have seen in the last three weeks, there is Age UK

trade continuity at going through the house of Congress in the United

States, being pushed forward by Paul Ryan, and India wants a trade

agreement, and there are rumours across at least nine countries,

which have decided to sign up for trade agreements of some sort. While

I am not optimistic about what we can get from the EU, as a young

person I would like to see free movement still on the table... Your

hopes and fears? I take a similar point of view, I voted Remain, and I

see an optimistic future. There is a part of me that is still on my toes,

I am not too sure what Brexit will look like, what model we will take.

I am feeling quite positive, especially because of Theresa May

being in the position that she is, I feel the country will be better

placed. A quick word from you. I would like to see how she will forge

religion ships with Europe going forward, without a stable economy

everything that we hoped for, whether socially or culturally, will

not happen, so that is what I would like to see, because we have had all

of the uncertainty before the referendum, now we need to take the

decision forward and build this country. Over here? Thanks, Tony. It

is a great opportunity to take one of the political energy and interest

there has been in politics and make that into a democratic basis for us

to go forward. Young people are getting involved, people who

previously thought they could not connect with their MPs, I hope that

is eight and the other parties take that forward, to connect MPs more

with their communities and local families. Rachel, behind you. I see

it as a trendsetter for women in power, it is happening all over the

world, I am happy to see that. Whether or not you agree with

policies, you see a woman in power, you will be inspired. I will ask for

a word, an adjective, about how... Or two words if you push me, about

how you are feeling. What would you say? Uncertain. That move around the

back row. Frustrated. Positive. Optimism. Nervous. Hopeful. Time for

proven leadership. Once upon a time,

a little girl clambered up a ladder