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Hello. It's Monday. It's 9 o'clock.

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I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Good morning.

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Team GB wins its first medals of the Rio Games.

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Jazz Carlin takes silver in the 400 metre freestyle and Adam Peaty ends

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Britain's 28-year wait for a men's Olympic swimming title by winning

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gold in the 100 metre breaststroke in spectacular style.

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COMMENTATOR: There's oceans of clear blue water between Adam Peaty and

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the rest of the world. This is utterly brilliant. Absolutely

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fantastic. Adam Peaty takes Olympic gold for Great Britain by an

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absolute street. A wonderful world record. Oh my goodness me, 57.1

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three. He has obliterated the world record. This is a product of seven

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years hard work. I came out tonight, I came back, with everything I've

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got, it's everything. Everything which has got you down these past

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few years, more importantly, I did it for my country because it means

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so much to me. Coming up, we'll be speaking

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to his very proud She is now completely famous on

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Twitter. Everybody wants to talk to her.

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Also coming up on today's programme, learning to live

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We'll speak to Actor and film director Adam Deacon

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about what life has been like since his diagnosis.

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When I look back to outsiders looking at me, everyone seemed to

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say the same thing, you are quite manic. I think they thought it was

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Red Bull at the time. And the nightmare

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continues for commuters. Staff of Southern Rail start

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a five-day walk-out in a long An emergency timetable has already

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been introduced with Southern rail running just 60% of its services

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across London and the South East. We will talk to the boss of the

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company. We're live until 11

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each weekday morning. Team GB's first gold medal is safely

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in the bag after Adam Peaty won the 100 metres breast stroke

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overnight in record-breaking style, 28 years after the last time one

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of our men triumphed in the pool. We'll be talking to his mum in Rio

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and his nan in Staffordshire. She is emotionally drained by the

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whole experience. His grandmother has her own following now.

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She's got something of a following of her own,

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tweeting about her grandson's progress under

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And we have an exclusive film from Bafta award-winning actor

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Adam Deacon about his battle with bipolar in which he talks

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to fellow sufferer Stephen Fry.If you're getting in touch,

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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Team GB has won its first gold medal of the Rio Olympics.

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Adam Peaty broke his own world record to win the 100

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Just minutes later, there was a silver medal

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for Jazz Carlin in the women's 400 metres freestyle.

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Adam Wild watched a thrilling night in the pool.

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This was the sight all of Team GB, all of Great Britain,

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Having broken his own record in qualifying, there could have been

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Still, in an Olympic final, there are no certainties.

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Leading from the front is what this 21-year-old does best.

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Roared on by his family, once again no-one could get close.

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This is utterly brilliant, absolutely fantastic!

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Adam Peaty takes Olympic gold for Great Britain.

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Again he has obliterated the world record.

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The first men's gold in the pool in a generation.

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Family support and the support of Team GB, an inspiration.

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It is so surreal to get Team GB's first gold,

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but you know, this is the product of seven years of work.

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And more importantly, I did it for my country.

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The first medal won, Britain didn't have to wait long

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Jazz Carlin won it in the 400 metre freestyle.

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Obviously I was sat and watched Adam win the gold, so I had to stay

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I can't believe the time as well, I am so happy.

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Plenty of hope for more moments like this.

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And in a minute we'll hear from an emotionally

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drained Caroline Peaty, Adam's mum, about her son's

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Ben Brown is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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A five-day strike by members of the RMT union

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It will affect hundreds of thousands of commuters

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It's over a plan by the operators for Southern's drivers,

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rather than its guards, to open and close carriage doors.

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Southern Rail says it will only be able to run about 60%

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Let's get more on this with our correspondent Ben Ando

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who's at Victoria Station in Central London.

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What is the picture there? Yes, good morning. The picture is that, as you

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said, pretty much we think 40% of services roughly have been cancelled

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today because of this industrial action. On some important routes,

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from Victoria here down to Portsmouth Harbour, and Southampton,

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Tannoy announcements are telling passengers there are no services

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running at all. What's it all about? The RMT union has called a strike,

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they have a picket line behind me and they are concerned about the

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changing role of the conductor. The railway company wants to use

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conductors to deal with passengers on stations and no longer being the

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people responsible for opening the doors when the train stops at a

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station however the RMT is worried that will not only put too much

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pressure on the drivers, but also change the role of conductors,

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making it less safety critical and more about customer service. At the

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moment, the strike is due to last until Friday unless the two sides

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can come together and reach an agreement. The RMT says they are

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ready to talk and it's up to the management. OK, thanks very much

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indeed. People are under-reporting how many

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calories they consume by as much as a third,

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according to a new report. The "Behavioural Insights Team"

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warns that it could be affecting anti-obesity strategies,

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as it appears that the UK's calorie intake is falling when,

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in reality, it isn't. Official surveys of what we eat show

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that calorie intake in the UK That is based on what people say

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they consume, and what they tell But the new study says people have

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either underestimated or been less than honest about what they eat,

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and that other data, based on chemical analysis of how

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much energy we burn, The report from the Behavioural

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Insights Team says that average calorie consumption is around 2,000

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per day, according to official surveys, but other scientific

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statistics show it is more Recommended daily intake

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levels are 2,500 for men The authors say policymakers trying

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to curb obesity should focus more on reducing calorie intake

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than promoting exercise. It is likely you get more bang

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for your buck by focusing on calorie reduction rather than

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physical activity. The amount of effort to burn off,

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say, a chocolate bar is much less So it is more likely

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you will have a lot more success by reducing your consumption

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slightly than doing The study is published at a time

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when ministers are finalising the content of the Government's

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childhood obesity strategy. It was due to be published

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when David Cameron was at Now it is down to Theresa May

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to decide how to take it forward. An investigation is under way

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after a man died on board a train travelling between Gatwick Airport

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and London yesterday. Police believe the passenger,

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who was in his 20s, may have been leaning out of a window

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when he suffered A prominent loyalist has been shot

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dead in north Belfast. The shooting took place around 10

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o'clock last night. The man has been named locally

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as John Boreland who was a member Northern Ireland First

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Minister Arlene Foster, and Deputy First Minister Martin

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McGuinness have both The children's charity, Barnado's,

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says not enough children in care in England are receiving

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support from mentors. Children are entitled

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to have an adult who visits them A study funded by the charity

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suggests that only three out of every 100 children are receiving

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independent support. Only a fraction of new fathers

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are taking advantage of rules which allow them to share parental

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leave with their partners. Laws allowing shared leave have been

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in place since April last year, but a report by a commercial law

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firm says just 3,000 parents used the right in the first three

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months of this year. The Government says the figures show

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take-up of the scheme is on track. More than 900,000 people could be

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entitled to flight compensation, according to the consumer

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organisation Which? Around 43 million passengers

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suffered delays flying in and out Passengers could be entitled

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to compensation, if the disruption was not caused by "extraordinary

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circumstances" such as weather That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News - more at 09:30. Still to come, we have an exclusive

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film from Bafta winning actor Adam Deacon about his battle

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with bipolar disorder, in which he gets advice from fellow

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sufferer Stephen Fry. Do get in touch with us

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throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and if you text, you will be charged Let's get the latest

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on the Olympics. John Watson joins us from the BBC

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Sport Centre. I don't know if you are up at that

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time in the morning to watch Adam Peaty? I didn't, no, I thought I

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would surprise myself with the outcome this morning but I did warn

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you what was going to happen this morning because Adam Peaty was a

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favourite. He'd already broken the world record in the heats. He'd

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broken his own world record? Absolutely, he broke his record last

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year so he was the absolute favourite going into this but he

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still had to execute, and that's exactly what he did. The hugely

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impressive performance from him breaking the world record, 1.5

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seconds clear of his nearest rival from South Africa. He was the

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defending Olympic champion, coming in second, the fastest ever field in

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this race, so it shows how well he did, beating his nearest rival by

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such a huge figure, really. As well, such a special moment, not just him

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of course but for Team GB, their first gold medal, and the first one

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in the summing pool for a British man in 28 years, Adrian Moorhouse

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back in the 1988 Seoul Olympics. So Adam Peaty, sensational performance

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from him, Victoria. A special moment. Seven years of hard work, he

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said. Not the only success in the pool for Team GB? Absolutely, Jazz

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Carlin, this is such a great story. She missed the London Olympics four

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years ago. She had glandular fever. She thought about walking away from

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swimming but here she is winning silver, a second medal for Team GB,

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second in the summing pool and she finished with a silver medal behind

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the United States. She also set a world record. The hugely impressive

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performance from Jazz Carlin, and she will go again in the 800 metres.

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This was the 400 metres freestyle and she thought about quitting

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swimming altogether following her absence at London 2012 but stuck

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with it and here she is receiving a silver medal. It's been hugely

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impressive. Remember, it wasn't until five days in that Team GB won

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their first gold medal at London 2012 so already we have surpassed

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that much better start to these Olympics with two medals already on

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the board. Let's talk about Team GB's Lizzy Yarnold stead. The road

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race. A very difficult week for her? -- Lizzie Armistead. She was hugely

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emotional afterwards. She gave reasons why she missed those drugs

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test in the lead up to these Olympic Games for the she was very emotional

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so far from ideal preparation going into this road race, which was a

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very technical course and we saw it again yesterday. She missed out on a

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medal finishing fifth, didn't have the best of starts, a puncture meant

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she had to change her tire, but she managed to rejoin the palette on it

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later on in the race. Around 20 kilometres to go, she was in with a

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slim chance of getting a medal, but the pallet on broke away in the end

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and it was just a step too far for Lizzie Armistead. She said herself

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afterwards she rode a very very good race and was very pleased with their

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performance so perhaps the difficulties she had in the lead up

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to the race, she wasn't pinpointing the result as a consequence of that.

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It is worth saying the course was noted for how dangerous it was, a

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lot of accident in the men's road race on Saturday and some terrible

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accident, one particularly, yesterday with a Dutch rider who was

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currently leading. She came off with 12: it is to go. A very nasty fall.

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You may have seen it last night for the unfortunately, she is OK in

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hospital, and she is conscious, but it just goes to show how dangerous

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that road race was. In the end, disappointment for Lizzie Armistead

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by the fifth-place finish is not bad at all. OK let's have a look at the

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medal table. We have medals on the board, gold for Adam Peaty and the

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silver for Jazz Carlin means Great Britain are currently down in eight

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with those two medals on board. The USA at in front. It's worth noting

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Michael Phelps, he chalked up another gold medal. Competing in his

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fifth Olympic Games. He's now 119 gold medals, 23 in total. An

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incredible performance on the greatest Olympian of all time.

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Cheers, John, for the moment. Let's talk more about the gold medal win

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for Britain's swimming sensation Adam Peaty.

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His mum told me, "It will change my son's life,

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but it won't change him. Adam will still be Adam."

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I spoke to Caroline Peaty in the early hours of

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this morning in Rio, after she'd been celebrating

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her 21-year-old son's win through the night.

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Caroline told me that seven years of dedicated

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training and hard work, had paid off.

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Getting up at four o'clock in the morning for Adam as well as myself.

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Two hours of training in the pool. Coming home to drop him off. He

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would go to school, I would go to work. He would go back training in

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the evening. This would go on four, five times a week. Then you begin to

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increase his sessions. He would go into the gym at about 17 or 18. More

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like a full-time job. There must've been times when the alarm went off

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at four o'clock in the morning when you thought, I need another hour in

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bed? Many a time I have said that. I have got to be at training.

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Champions are not bred in bed. They need to get up. There will be so

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many boys and girls who will have watched Adam's success overnight,

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who will be thinking, you know what, I want to do that, I want to swim

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for Great Britain. What would your advice be? If they have got the

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passion, go for it. It is not for the faint-hearted. It is a lot of

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work to get to the level that Adam Azad. You have to put in quite a few

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hours. It is a commitment for the person swimming and also for the

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parents. That support network is vitally important. What would you

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say to the mums and dads of future Adams? If your children really want

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to do this, and it is their dream to be a champion swimmer, support them

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as far as you can go. It is well worth everything. Especially for the

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moment we have received tonight. Do you think this will change your

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son's life? Probably. But I don't think it will change Adam. Adam is

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Adam. He is very grounded. Nothing really changes him. If it was going

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to change it would have changed after the Commonwealth Games, the

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Europeans, after he broke in the world record. I'm interesting you

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described it as an emotional roller coasters. The nervous for you before

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the race. The moment when his fingers touched the edge of the

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pool, and yet broken his own world record, what was that like for you

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and his dad? We didn't realise he had broken the world record. At one

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point from where we were standing, we thought everybody was at level

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pegging. But when we looked back, he was quite a distance ahead. This is

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what he wanted. Then we looked at the board and the saw the world

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record as well, they were all jumping up and down, screaming. His

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girlfriend was crying. I had tears in my eyes. It was fantastic. You

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have spoken to him, I assume? Yes, we have had a cuddle. We saw in

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coming around after he received his medal. But yes, we had a cuddle

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afterwards. What state was he in? He is so happy, he really is. It is not

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the end of his journey. But is a is the end of his first journey. His

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first goal was to get the Olympic medal. I doubt he will get any sleep

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tonight. He is ecstatic. Thank you so much for talking to us. I really

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appreciate your time. Waking up for us is a big ask, so they give. Thank

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you. Caroline, Adam Peaty's mum. Later we

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will talk to his man and his brother. And by the end of the

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programme, hopefully the extended family will have been on today.

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Actor and film director Adam Deacon is one of

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He shot to fame in Kidulthood, a film about three teenagers

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living in London, and in 2012, he won Bafta's Rising

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Star award after writing and acting in his own movie.

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But then his life took a downward turn.

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Adam ended up in court first for harassing his former mentor,

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the actor Noel Clarke, and then for threatening a stranger

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He was mentally ill at the time, and after being sectioned,

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he was diagnosed with having bipolar disorder, or manic depression.

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For this programme, he's been to meet Stephen Fry, who has

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One in a hundred UK adults will get a similar diagnosis at some time.

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So how do you manage your life, your job, your friendships

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With bipolar, life has two speeds. One minute it is all too fast. The

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next, everything becomes so slow, I find it really hard to cope. I am

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Adam Deacon. In 2012I won the BAFTA. , -- but after that, it fell apart.

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Arrests, court appearances... It is a year since I was diagnosed. I am

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still on a journey to learn more about it. Look at the remarkable

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people in our history who have had this condition. Look at what they

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have achieved and be confident it is not a death sentence. Most of all, I

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want to know if I can get my life back.

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Getting diagnosed was a big shock. I have got so many questions. I am

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eating psychologist Carol Chapman. It is learning more about what it

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is. Can you explain? A lot of us, all of us have moods. Sometimes you

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feel happy, sometimes you feel down, sad, angry. Bipolar sufferer will

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have extremes of moods lasting sometimes days, weeks. The main

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area, high energy levels, everything happening very quickly, wanting to

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do lots. The depressive end, the other said. Lacking in energy,

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finding it hard to get out of bed, achieve anything. Feeling very low

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in mood and hopeless. It used to be called manic

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depression. When I looked online, one celebrity keeps cropping up.

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Coincidentally, he presents the BAFTA awards. Stephen Fry is good to

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chat with me about his experiences. You had quite a public breakdown

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yourself? I did. I suppose it all started for me at school. I was very

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annoying and could not stop speaking. I got expelled from this

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school, that's cool and the other school. Then I thought everything

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was fine. I kind of got over it in my early 20s. That is really when it

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all started to go wrong. I realised I was pray to these terrible moods.

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So when it came to this period, I was in a play. I walked out. I had a

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kind of collapse of confidence. And of happiness. And a general feeling

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that my life was over. Got the proper diagnosis. That is when I

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thought it was OK because I had named the beast. I had faced it. I

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was kidding myself. The much worse suicide attempt came several years

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after that. I was lying in a hospital bed thinking, I am a

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lunatic. And I was saying this. One in 100 adults diagnosed with

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bipolar at some point in their life. It costs the NHS ?342 million a

:24:56.:25:00.

year. Some experts say it is associated with creativity. Artists

:25:01.:25:05.

like Van Gogh are said to have lived with bipolar. That is not the whole

:25:06.:25:12.

story. This is not some sort of blessing that artistic people get

:25:13.:25:16.

that makes them more creative. This is something suffered by people

:25:17.:25:19.

working in shops, offices, call centres. Something happens and it

:25:20.:25:28.

switches the trigger. We are out and about filming and people keep coming

:25:29.:25:31.

up to me to talk about their own stories. Adele works in a shop in

:25:32.:25:35.

London. She has bipolar and psychosis. So when you was going

:25:36.:25:40.

through your lowest point, how did that feel? It was really bad. It got

:25:41.:25:46.

to the point where I just wanted to end it all. It did not matter what

:25:47.:25:52.

it was. Even at work I'd find something to either hurt myself with

:25:53.:26:02.

or just wanted to end it completely. That is the low. But the high, the

:26:03.:26:08.

manic phase, that can sometimes be destructive as well. When I look

:26:09.:26:13.

back to outsiders looking at me, everyone seemed to say the same

:26:14.:26:19.

thing. That view was quite manic. They banned Red Bull. I think they

:26:20.:26:27.

thought it was Red Bull at the time. I once had it so badly that I

:26:28.:26:31.

honestly, and I am the least superstitious person in the world,

:26:32.:26:35.

had I even a grain of religion in me, I would have thought God was

:26:36.:26:38.

talking to me. I felt like Joan of Arc. It was quite frightening in the

:26:39.:26:44.

end. One of the things I know from my experience, and it still shocks

:26:45.:26:48.

me, is that people who love me best read my mood more quickly than I can

:26:49.:26:54.

myself. My husband, he knows when I am manic. He hears it in my voice,

:26:55.:27:00.

he sees it in my eyes. I guess that is true. Spending time with friends

:27:01.:27:06.

does help. My mate noticed changes in the one we were working together.

:27:07.:27:14.

I think it got too much. There were days when you were sitting on the

:27:15.:27:20.

floor, literally on the floor in the middle of an estate whilst we were

:27:21.:27:23.

filming, going crazy. I'm just like... So was it a combination of

:27:24.:27:29.

winning the BAFTA, being on top of the world, and then going from bad

:27:30.:27:33.

to not getting as many acting opportunities as you thought you

:27:34.:27:37.

would get, as well as not having your family around and excessive

:27:38.:27:43.

cannabis consumption that led to the state you were in? Do you know what?

:27:44.:27:51.

A lot of my friends and stuff work kind of like, this was bound to

:27:52.:27:55.

happen. I think looking at your life, you couldn't live the way you

:27:56.:27:58.

are living for this amount of time and expect something not to go

:27:59.:28:03.

wrong. And then it did go wrong. I ended up

:28:04.:28:07.

in a police cell. I ended up having this kind of

:28:08.:28:25.

breakdown. I ended up making it even more public because of Twitter. I

:28:26.:28:29.

was writing this crazy stuff on Twitter without even realising it.

:28:30.:28:33.

Sometimes I wish someone took my phone away and like made me go off

:28:34.:28:42.

social media for a time. I feel very much the better for it. At that

:28:43.:28:47.

time, I was doing everything to reach out. What was going through

:28:48.:28:53.

your head? I just wanted to be left alone. I felt I knew what I was

:28:54.:28:58.

doing. I remember just blocking everyone. I went to my phone and

:28:59.:29:01.

said, I cannot talk to anybody. I got arrested again. It was

:29:02.:29:19.

actually the police that were like, look, we need to get him some proper

:29:20.:29:24.

help. Next thing I know I just remember being led down a corridor.

:29:25.:29:29.

The next thing they said to me was, you are sectioned. I went mad. I

:29:30.:29:35.

said, no, I am getting out of here. I don't need to be here. I just

:29:36.:29:40.

wanted to get out. Paul MacLachlan was the matron on my ward. I

:29:41.:29:45.

remember you when you first came to the ward. You didn't want to stay.

:29:46.:29:53.

How much to let me out of the door? When you came, you are very manic.

:29:54.:29:58.

Doing things on impulse and not being totally aware of what you are

:29:59.:30:03.

doing and saying very odd, paranoid things. People were against you. I

:30:04.:30:09.

was in the hospital for three weeks. I don't know what you guys done, but

:30:10.:30:12.

you got the better and I thank you so much for that. How did you do it?

:30:13.:30:18.

I think it's being in a safe place like award, talking to people,

:30:19.:30:25.

talking to staff, talking to other service users and sharing your

:30:26.:30:31.

experiences, not feeling alone, talking to professionals,

:30:32.:30:34.

psychologists, nursing staff, psychiatrists. Definitely medication

:30:35.:30:38.

plays a part. I don't think it's the be all and end all. I think

:30:39.:30:42.

relationships are very important. I got out and felt better but then it

:30:43.:30:45.

made all the headlines and I have to deal with people recognising you not

:30:46.:30:49.

for your work but for the fact that you've been sectioned. You're

:30:50.:30:52.

dealing with your own demons in the first place, going through hell, all

:30:53.:30:58.

over the place, and then it's everywhere. How did you cope with

:30:59.:31:03.

that? I've always lived my life in a strangely public way in terms of

:31:04.:31:07.

being open about things, so in the 80s, when it was quite unusual, I

:31:08.:31:11.

came out as being gay, and it was a similar thing in as much as if you

:31:12.:31:16.

are in our business it's a lot easier to talk about your emotion.

:31:17.:31:19.

What if you are not in the public eye? I've come across patients whose

:31:20.:31:25.

families through them out of the house and they find it too much to

:31:26.:31:30.

cope with. I think in terms of employment, being off work sick,

:31:31.:31:35.

going back to work after being in hospital, I think it's just a huge

:31:36.:31:39.

minefield. Did you find it easy to tell your friends and family about

:31:40.:31:43.

what you going through? No, not for a good few months. Why is that? I

:31:44.:31:50.

was scared how they would react and hurting them in the process. You

:31:51.:31:54.

mentioned work. How did they cope with it all? They didn't actually

:31:55.:31:59.

know. I hid it from them for quite a long time, as well, in case they

:32:00.:32:04.

thought I was not fit enough to work. Do you think enough is being

:32:05.:32:08.

done to take away the stigma and four other young people to feel

:32:09.:32:12.

brave enough to say, I am going through something right now?

:32:13.:32:16.

Personally, I don't think there's a lot going on for it. There's not

:32:17.:32:19.

enough help going through. It took me quite a long time to open up and

:32:20.:32:26.

be honest about it. People need to be more aware. They need to be more

:32:27.:32:30.

open about what's going on because if it's too late, there's nothing

:32:31.:32:36.

you can do. But people know, then whatever the problem is, they will

:32:37.:32:41.

help you. But BAFTA seemed like a long time ago but now it's time to

:32:42.:32:46.

get my career back on track. I'm writing music again and I've started

:32:47.:32:49.

getting acting work. Things are looking up. # I'm trying to hold on

:32:50.:32:58.

but I don't know if I can make it # Why am I still here? You don't know

:32:59.:33:05.

how people will react to after they hear about it being sectioned and

:33:06.:33:08.

every thing you've been through. I've been really blessed people have

:33:09.:33:12.

been supportive and they want to see you out there doing what you do and

:33:13.:33:15.

that's given me a lot of hope for the future. # Had a breakdown. All I

:33:16.:33:24.

want to do is get away but I feel so trapped. # thank you, yes. I love

:33:25.:33:35.

that, man. Thank you for your messages. Yaz says people should

:33:36.:33:41.

talk about their experiences. The more open people are, the more

:33:42.:33:46.

others will understand. Ella tweets, I wholeheartedly support this whole

:33:47.:33:50.

conversation. Dean says, much respect to you, brother. I'm sure

:33:51.:33:54.

this will reduce the stigma. Darren said he was diagnosed with bipolar

:33:55.:33:59.

type to 18 months ago. Getting the right support and medication is the

:34:00.:34:03.

key to a balanced life. This one says it's great to see mental health

:34:04.:34:08.

being spoken about openly and honestly. If you want to share Adams

:34:09.:34:10.

film go to our programme page. . For details of organisations which

:34:11.:34:17.

offer advice . about bipolar disorder,

:34:18.:34:18.

go online to bbc.co.uk/actionline. Later we'll talk to Adam

:34:19.:34:21.

live, as well as others One of the concerns

:34:22.:34:24.

is how you keep down a job. And at 11, straight after our

:34:25.:34:28.

programme, you have the chance to put your own questions to Adam,

:34:29.:34:31.

as he will be taking part in a Facebook live event

:34:32.:34:34.

on the BBC Facebook page. Still to come, it was a long night

:34:35.:34:42.

for Adam Peaty's friends and family watching his record-breaking

:34:43.:34:45.

win in Rio in the early We'll be talking to his gran

:34:46.:34:47.

about her golden grandson. And his brother, James. Good morning

:34:48.:35:05.

and congratulations. Thank you. Is it right to congratulate the brother

:35:06.:35:09.

and grandma on a gold medal winner? I'm not sure. Anyway, I have done it

:35:10.:35:11.

now. And it's been a tough

:35:12.:35:12.

morning for commuters in London and the South East,

:35:13.:35:14.

as staff at Southern Rail We'll talk to the boss

:35:15.:35:16.

of the company. Here's Ben Brown in the BBC Newsroom

:35:17.:35:20.

with a summary of today's news. Thank you, Victoria. Team GB has won

:35:21.:35:30.

its first gold medal of the real Olympics. Adam Peaty brokers own

:35:31.:35:34.

world record to win the 100 metres breast stroke. Minutes later, there

:35:35.:35:38.

was a silver medal for Jazz Carlin in the women's 400 metres freestyle.

:35:39.:35:46.

A bomb has exploded at a hospital in south-west Pakistan killing at least

:35:47.:35:50.

45 people and wounding many more. The explosion took place at the

:35:51.:35:53.

entrance to the hospitals emergency department. A five-day strike by

:35:54.:36:01.

members of the RMT union and Southern rail has started. It will

:36:02.:36:05.

affect hundreds of thousands of commuters over a plan by the

:36:06.:36:09.

operators for Southern 's drivers rather than its guards to open close

:36:10.:36:12.

carriage doors. Southern rail says it will only be able to run about

:36:13.:36:19.

60% service. People are under reporting how many calories they

:36:20.:36:21.

consumed by as much as a third according to a new report.

:36:22.:36:25.

Scientific tests show people eat 3000 calories a day on average but

:36:26.:36:31.

claimed to have eaten only 2000 when surveyed. The behavioural insights

:36:32.:36:35.

team warned that this could be affecting anti-obesity strategies.

:36:36.:36:40.

Only a fraction of new fathers are taking advantage of rules which

:36:41.:36:43.

allow them to share parental leave with their partners. Laws allowing

:36:44.:36:49.

shared leave have been in place since April last year, but a report

:36:50.:36:53.

by a commercial law firms has just 3000 parents use the right in the

:36:54.:36:59.

first three months of this year. The former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls

:37:00.:37:02.

will be competing in this year 's Strictly Come Dancing. The former

:37:03.:37:06.

politician is the first name to be officially revealed on the hit BBC

:37:07.:37:12.

show. He told Chris Evans on his Radio 2 breakfast show that he was

:37:13.:37:13.

scared to death. That's a summary of

:37:14.:37:15.

the latest BBC News. Here's some sport now

:37:16.:37:17.

with John Watson. Hello, Victoria. Team GB have won

:37:18.:37:23.

their first gold medal of the games. In the early hours of this morning,

:37:24.:37:30.

the 21-year-old, who trains at the City of Derby swimming club,

:37:31.:37:32.

won gold in the Men's 100 metre breast stroke,

:37:33.:37:35.

the first British man to win a gold Jazz Carlin won a medal for Team GB,

:37:36.:37:48.

the second medal of the games, getting silver in the women's 400

:37:49.:37:53.

metres freestyle after missing the London games. She thought about

:37:54.:37:56.

walking away from the sport who are special moment for her as she won

:37:57.:38:01.

the second medal for Team GB. Let's look at some of the other big

:38:02.:38:06.

stories from the games. Lizzie Armistead finished fifth in the road

:38:07.:38:09.

race on a course labelled dangerous after a difficult build-up for her.

:38:10.:38:13.

She sought to explain the reasons behind those three missed drugs

:38:14.:38:17.

tests. She missed out on a medal which is marked by a terrible crash

:38:18.:38:22.

close to the end to the race leader. Away from the Olympics, England beat

:38:23.:38:29.

Pakistan by 141 runs in the test at Edgbaston to take a 2-1 series lead

:38:30.:38:33.

with one more test to play at the Oval starting on Thursday. They

:38:34.:38:37.

could return to the top of the test rankings if they win that when they

:38:38.:38:44.

get underway this week. Football now and latterly and even in a vitch

:38:45.:38:47.

Manchester United 's new signing scored a late winner as he won the

:38:48.:38:52.

FA committee shield -- flat and Ibrahim vitch. He's now linking up

:38:53.:39:00.

with Manchester United. Celtic made a winning start to the new season as

:39:01.:39:04.

their new signing Scott Sinclair scored the winner with some ten

:39:05.:39:08.

minutes remaining. That win coming against hearts at Tynecastle. That

:39:09.:39:14.

is all a sport for the moment. 20 more for you later. We are going to

:39:15.:39:19.

celebrate Adam Peaty a little bit more and why not. In the early hours

:39:20.:39:24.

of this morning, the 21-year-old, who trains at the city of Derby

:39:25.:39:29.

swimming club, won gold in the men's 100 metres breast stroke, the first

:39:30.:39:33.

British man to win a gold medal in the pool since 1988 but was also

:39:34.:39:37.

another world record for him, swimming in 57.13 seconds.

:39:38.:39:40.

Let's talk to Adam Peaty's nan Mavis.

:39:41.:39:42.

Mavis is now famous on Twitter as hashtag olympic nan.

:39:43.:39:50.

And lets talk to Adams brother, James. Hello, both of you.

:39:51.:40:01.

Congratulations. Good morning. How was it for you, Mavis, watching it

:40:02.:40:06.

in the early hours? Oh, fantastic. He was great. I let myself go, when

:40:07.:40:18.

I usually do, when I watch him swim. What did you do? Made a fool of

:40:19.:40:27.

myself screaming and shouting. You are allowed to do that when your

:40:28.:40:31.

grandson has just won gold and broken his own world record, aren't

:40:32.:40:41.

you? Well, yes, I am, I suppose. We are just seeing it now, seeing you

:40:42.:40:46.

cheering and screaming. What about you, James? How was it for you?

:40:47.:40:53.

Ecstatic for me. Seeing my brother on TV, ecstatic, never mind being in

:40:54.:40:56.

the Olympic Games in Rio. It was fantastic. The whole family enjoyed

:40:57.:41:05.

looking at in summing the race and winning gold. We all enjoyed it. I

:41:06.:41:12.

spoke to your mum, Caroline, earlier. She talked about the

:41:13.:41:16.

sacrifices and the daily routine at getting up at 4am to take into

:41:17.:41:21.

training, then come back, get breakfast, go to, drop them off at

:41:22.:41:24.

school. As the brother looking on, what are you thinking when all of is

:41:25.:41:31.

going on? Well, I feel the pain for my mum, really, it's the dedication,

:41:32.:41:35.

taking in swimming and stuff. It's all paid off in the long run,

:41:36.:41:40.

basically. You could see it this morning. She did a lot for him. And

:41:41.:41:46.

basically add trains a lot as well, gets up in the morning. It's all

:41:47.:41:52.

paid out in the long run. Is it true, Mavis, about Adam not liking

:41:53.:42:00.

water when he was a little boy? Yes, it is true. He used to get in the

:42:01.:42:09.

bath and jump out again. He didn't like water at all. His mum took him

:42:10.:42:16.

to the summing Bath 's to see if he could improve but he used to scream

:42:17.:42:26.

and murder -- swimming baths. One day a friend took him and I do know

:42:27.:42:32.

what happened there but he started going -- screaming blue murder. He's

:42:33.:42:36.

been going ever since. James, do you like to swim? I like a casual swim

:42:37.:42:43.

but I don't like racing against Adam. I had a race with him when I

:42:44.:42:50.

was 14 years old. He just about one against me. I can't imagine what it

:42:51.:42:54.

would be like now. It's not worth it. So inspirational. There will be

:42:55.:43:01.

so many kids in Britain, boys and girls, waking up this morning,

:43:02.:43:06.

watching that on TV inspired to compete. That is a magnificent

:43:07.:43:13.

achievement, isn't it? It is. Inspired many children around the UK

:43:14.:43:19.

in the world. James, thank you so much. Mavis, thank you the talking

:43:20.:43:25.

to us. We are going to talk to Ryan from Stoke, one of Adam's friends

:43:26.:43:31.

and swimming coaches. How are you? Very well. What did you think of

:43:32.:43:36.

that swim them? Absolutely unbelievable. I celebrated it with

:43:37.:43:43.

Adams family and I watched it live and the atmosphere was incredible.

:43:44.:43:49.

When he broke the world record, it was amazing. As he progressed

:43:50.:43:52.

through the swim, but he just touched the wall with 57.13,

:43:53.:43:57.

unbelievable. What is his temperament like? Adam is so

:43:58.:44:03.

level-headed. I've spoken to him in the last couple of hours and we had

:44:04.:44:10.

a bit of banter. What did he say? He said he's got no chance of getting

:44:11.:44:13.

some sleep tonight because he's got people talking to him right, left

:44:14.:44:16.

and centre. He's really enjoying it though. Level-headed, you save for

:44:17.:44:23.

the Bismarck and said earlier the gold medal could change his life but

:44:24.:44:26.

he will not change. He will stay grounded. -- he was back in training

:44:27.:44:39.

while the closing ceremony was taking place. It's about taking the

:44:40.:44:42.

next move for Adam that what makes in such a great athlete. He trains

:44:43.:44:46.

with the younger generation who want to be him, wants to be the next

:44:47.:44:51.

Olympic medallist. Tell us about the level of training you have to do to

:44:52.:44:54.

win a gold medal in the 100 metres breast stroke in the Olympics. Adam

:44:55.:45:03.

trains around 20 hours a week in the pool, but that's not all he will do.

:45:04.:45:07.

He will swim at Loughborough and wrapped in school am so he gets long

:45:08.:45:12.

course and short course experience and is also in the gym for ten hours

:45:13.:45:16.

a week at least. He's got the nutrition, the rest he needs in

:45:17.:45:19.

between that, it is his full-time job.

:45:20.:45:31.

Is the key to breaststroke the strength in the upper body?

:45:32.:45:37.

Definitely. Adam has got that. He has also got a strong kick. That is

:45:38.:45:43.

what has helped him get the world record today and beating the field

:45:44.:45:48.

by 1.5 seconds. Which is astonishing. It sounds like nothing

:45:49.:45:54.

but that is a decent gap, isn't it, between gold and silver? Thank you

:45:55.:45:59.

for telling us about Adam. A friend of Adam's and one of his swimming

:46:00.:46:01.

coaches. New research given exclusively

:46:02.:46:02.

to this programme shows over half of boys at secondary school see

:46:03.:46:05.

eating disorders as an issue It's going to be a nightmare

:46:06.:46:08.

for commuters in London and the South East of England this

:46:09.:46:16.

week as a strike by Staff will walk out for five days

:46:17.:46:19.

in a long-running dispute over plans to change the role of conductors

:46:20.:46:23.

to on board supervisors, and to get drivers to open and close

:46:24.:46:26.

the carriage doors in the future. That already happens on four out of

:46:27.:46:34.

ten trains. Southern Rail is introducing

:46:35.:46:37.

an emergency timetable running just 60% of its services across London

:46:38.:46:39.

and the South East. Southern cut more than 300 services

:46:40.:46:41.

last month to try to make its heavily criticised remaining

:46:42.:46:47.

services more reliable. Three days of talks

:46:48.:46:50.

between the company and the RMT union at the conciliation service

:46:51.:46:52.

Acas collapsed last week. In a moment we'll be talking

:46:53.:46:56.

to the chief executive of Southern's parent

:46:57.:46:59.

company, Govia Thameslink. But first, let's find out

:47:00.:47:02.

what the strike means Zoe Lamb lives in Redhill and works

:47:03.:47:04.

full time in Canary Wharf. She commutes four

:47:05.:47:09.

to five days a week. There will be no service at all

:47:10.:47:12.

on her line this week into London. Summer Dean is another Southern Rail

:47:13.:47:15.

passenger based in Brighton. She has organized a protest for this

:47:16.:47:20.

Wednesday, a week before fare Zoe, in a minute I am going to talk

:47:21.:47:34.

to the boss of Southern rail. What would you say to him? Just as we are

:47:35.:47:42.

asked as passenger to pay a year in advance from my season ticket for

:47:43.:47:47.

the ability to get to work, to get home from work on a reliable service

:47:48.:47:52.

that has reasonable customer service, and it has just not

:47:53.:47:56.

happened. It is not just about the strike. It is about the cuts in the

:47:57.:48:01.

service. It is about the fact I have five less direct trains to London

:48:02.:48:08.

Bridge ever that -- every morning. It is the worst value for money on

:48:09.:48:11.

anything that I have purchased and it is my biggest expense. The

:48:12.:48:19.

website is not very user-friendly. Quite often you just get feedback

:48:20.:48:23.

about a month later telling you that actually you are 29 minutes late,

:48:24.:48:28.

not 30 minutes late, and therefore you will not get the compensation.

:48:29.:48:30.

Charles Horton is the chief executive of Southern's parent

:48:31.:48:32.

What would you say to Zoe? I would like to apologise sincerely. I

:48:33.:48:40.

understand you're upset about the current level of service and I don't

:48:41.:48:44.

think it is acceptable. We are trying to address those issues and

:48:45.:48:48.

improve the quality of service for passengers. Sincere apology to you,

:48:49.:48:54.

Zoe. Thank you. But I still have to try to get to work. I have had to

:48:55.:48:58.

rearrange my meetings this week because of the strike. I appreciate

:48:59.:49:03.

it is a difficult situation. But it is your job as the operator of this

:49:04.:49:08.

franchise to make sure these things don't happen. Hundreds of thousands

:49:09.:49:12.

of people are at risk in their jobs because we are turning up late, we

:49:13.:49:17.

are getting fined by childcare because we cannot see our kids, and

:49:18.:49:20.

the stress of not being able to get to work twice a day, for both me and

:49:21.:49:27.

my husband, is massive. You say you do understand the disruption. Do you

:49:28.:49:33.

use your own service? Yes, I use them every single day. I completely

:49:34.:49:38.

get were Zoe is coming from. I understand how much inconvenience

:49:39.:49:43.

this causes. It is huge stress. It is really tough for people. I would

:49:44.:49:49.

just like to repeat what I said. My sincere apology. I am going to ask

:49:50.:49:53.

you what you are going to do to resolve this, in just a second. Some

:49:54.:49:58.

are, you live in Brighton. In terms of your daily commute. What is it

:49:59.:50:06.

like? Obviously we have seen huge disruption, and that is something

:50:07.:50:10.

that has affected me. Where I have said I will meet somebody for a

:50:11.:50:13.

meeting in London, not been able to get there because the train has been

:50:14.:50:17.

cancelled or Mac I have not been able to get on the train because it

:50:18.:50:22.

has been too full. This is affecting lots of people, not just between

:50:23.:50:26.

Brighton and London. Sometimes it is easy to just assume that is the only

:50:27.:50:31.

one affected. There are lots of other lines as well. It has just so

:50:32.:50:36.

disruptive and it is not just about not being able to make it to a

:50:37.:50:40.

meeting or not being able to get to work on time. It is about trying to

:50:41.:50:46.

get home as well. And constantly feeling like the company has

:50:47.:50:49.

absolutely no regard for their passengers. We constantly hear

:50:50.:50:56.

apologies, left right and centre. All the different bosses saying, we

:50:57.:51:00.

sincerely apologise, our passengers are number one. But we are not

:51:01.:51:06.

seeing any evidence of that. They are sceptical about your apology?

:51:07.:51:12.

Yes, I understand that. If you had had the level of service customers

:51:13.:51:16.

have had in recent weeks, I understand the cynicism. I really do

:51:17.:51:20.

mean the apology. We are sorry for the inconvenience, the disruption to

:51:21.:51:26.

people's lives. This week the strike is completely unacceptable, it is

:51:27.:51:29.

unjustified. We spent three days last week at Acas. We put a Comber

:51:30.:51:34.

on the table. And I am afraid walk away from it. -- a comprehensive

:51:35.:51:40.

package on the table. People's lives have gone upside down. Wasn't there

:51:41.:51:47.

a compromise, that whenever a train ran, a second person would be on

:51:48.:51:52.

that train? The unions said they would not have gone ahead with the

:51:53.:51:57.

strike. That is a bit of a red herring. We did say to the RMT that

:51:58.:52:02.

we would say that every train with a second person -- person on board at

:52:03.:52:06.

the moment, we'll have a second person in the future. They don't

:52:07.:52:10.

believe you. They wouldn't accept it. We have ended up with this

:52:11.:52:16.

strike. I am so sorry. How much are you to blame for how you have

:52:17.:52:21.

handled this? I don't want to get into the blame game. I want to find

:52:22.:52:26.

a way out of this problem. As chief executive I take full

:52:27.:52:29.

responsibility. Have you considered your position? Yes, I have. If I

:52:30.:52:37.

left, I would leave the company leaderless at a time when what we

:52:38.:52:41.

need to do is solve these problems. You are failing to solve the

:52:42.:52:47.

problems, aren't you? If I leave, I leave the company at a crucial time.

:52:48.:52:51.

What I and my team are focused on doing is resolving this dispute, but

:52:52.:52:57.

also making the changes which are necessary to modernise services.

:52:58.:53:04.

There is a huge investment going on to improve the quality of services,

:53:05.:53:09.

new carriages, more drivers than ever before, to improve the

:53:10.:53:12.

reliability and consistency of services. Big changes to information

:53:13.:53:16.

to help customers have a better experience. It is so important we do

:53:17.:53:23.

that. You say you want to resolve the dispute and continue with the

:53:24.:53:28.

changes, the modernisation changes. At the moment of those things are

:53:29.:53:33.

incompatible, aren't they? We will proceed. If we cannot get the RMT to

:53:34.:53:38.

agree, we will start that process later this month. You are going to

:53:39.:53:45.

impose the fact that drivers will open and close doors? What will

:53:46.:53:49.

happen is that the second person will be on the train to look after

:53:50.:53:54.

customers. How does that resolve the dispute? It will move things

:53:55.:54:01.

forward. At the moment you cannot get them to agree so they have gone

:54:02.:54:04.

on strike. In a month you are going to impose the things they don't

:54:05.:54:09.

agree with? We have been talking to the RMT about this change for nine

:54:10.:54:13.

months. We have done our level best to get them to come on board with

:54:14.:54:18.

modernisation. The RMT have set their face against modernisation.

:54:19.:54:23.

They say it is about safety. 60% of services across the network already

:54:24.:54:29.

operate with driver in full control of the doors. The rail regulator

:54:30.:54:36.

regards this as a safe operation. The safety body recognises this.

:54:37.:54:42.

They believe it may offer some advantages. The change we are making

:54:43.:54:46.

will not impact on safety and in fact we believe it will offer some

:54:47.:54:52.

advantages. Zoe, do you think imposing these changes in a month

:54:53.:54:55.

will resolve this and make your daily commute better? No. Part of

:54:56.:55:01.

the problems we have had with services that the staff are not

:55:02.:55:08.

available either on the train, operating the doors, as customer

:55:09.:55:11.

service representatives. The fundamental business model does not

:55:12.:55:14.

work. They need staff to work extra hours to fill the trains. With such

:55:15.:55:19.

disgruntled staff, nobody is going to be doing the extra hours. While

:55:20.:55:25.

Southern Rail have said they are investing in staff, they did not do

:55:26.:55:33.

it early enough. Summer, does it sound to you as if Charles Horton

:55:34.:55:40.

has got a solution? I don't think it does. I am not a manager. It does

:55:41.:55:50.

seem that the union is not happy with what is going to happen. To be

:55:51.:55:54.

constantly pushing against that, we are hearing there has been three

:55:55.:55:58.

days of talks to try to prevent this strike. What seems to be happening

:55:59.:56:09.

is that they just think whatever stuff we are saying is pathetic or

:56:10.:56:14.

unnecessary or ridiculous. I just think until somebody, and I really

:56:15.:56:18.

think it is the responsibility of management within a company to sit

:56:19.:56:23.

down and try to resolve something, then nothing is go to happen. To

:56:24.:56:28.

just constantly say, this is what is going to happen and we don't care

:56:29.:56:33.

about what the stats say... Until Charles Horton stars being the

:56:34.:56:36.

person on the train who operates the doors, I don't think he knows what

:56:37.:56:42.

is safe and what is not safe. He claims to use the service. I would

:56:43.:56:46.

be interested to know what service that is he is using and whether he

:56:47.:56:50.

has done a video diary, as a lot of passengers have done. Would you do a

:56:51.:56:55.

video diary would use it in the driver's seed? Going back to the

:56:56.:57:01.

point of safety... You have completely ignored what I have asked

:57:02.:57:10.

you. In terms of the safety of that role and that method of operation,

:57:11.:57:14.

it is something that has been in place for 30 years. This is a safe,

:57:15.:57:21.

effective method. The change we are making will allow the second person

:57:22.:57:24.

on the train to give better service to customers, which is what you

:57:25.:57:29.

heard our passengers say to us. They have also said they do not think

:57:30.:57:33.

imposing this will solve anything. We have been trying for nine months

:57:34.:57:39.

to resolve this issue with the RMT. We put on the table a package of

:57:40.:57:43.

eight points last week to try to resolve this dispute. During the

:57:44.:57:48.

negotiations we added to that and the RMT would not accept. Thank you

:57:49.:57:53.

very much. Thank you for talking to your passengers. Thank you Zoe and

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summer. Still to come, the latest Rio video diary filmed for you by

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Olympic trampoline Esther Cat Driscoll. Time for the latest

:58:07.:58:14.

weather. Haven't seen you for ages. Welcome

:58:15.:58:22.

back. You missed quite a Goolie yesterday. These were the wind gusts

:58:23.:58:28.

across parts of Scotland, making it the windiest summer days since July

:58:29.:58:35.

19 88. Some of those places I do not even know where they are! One of

:58:36.:58:43.

them is the top of Cairngorm. 115 mph, still windy across parts of

:58:44.:58:47.

Scotland at the moment. Take a look at the weather generally. This is

:58:48.:58:52.

from Fife. A beautiful picture. We have been seeing a lot of this.

:58:53.:58:59.

There have also been some showers in the forecast this morning. A lovely

:59:00.:59:03.

rainbow over Yorkshire. Have a look at this. That is how I love my

:59:04.:59:11.

weather. Just like this. Some of us want some rain but personally I love

:59:12.:59:14.

it. More of that to come. Thank you. What we are looking at

:59:15.:59:20.

today is a mixture of sunshine and showers. We have had some showers

:59:21.:59:25.

this morning. Some have cleared. Further showers will develop as we

:59:26.:59:30.

move through the day. What we currently have is high pressure in

:59:31.:59:34.

the Atlantic, low pressure from yesterday heading over to

:59:35.:59:38.

Scandinavia. Look at the squeeze on the isobars. Very windy in the far

:59:39.:59:41.

north of Scotland and the Northern Isles. Pretty breezy across the

:59:42.:59:46.

whole of the UK. If you catch a shower it will whistle through quite

:59:47.:59:50.

quickly. This is where we have the cloud. Some of it producing showers.

:59:51.:59:56.

A lot of sunshine. The main focus of the weather today is across the far

:59:57.:00:00.

north-east of Scotland. This is where we still have gusty winds, 50

:00:01.:00:10.

to 60 mph, locally 65 mph. It makes it very difficult to walk into that

:00:11.:00:14.

kind of wind speed. Reigning Shetland will be with us for much of

:00:15.:00:19.

the day. The wind peaking at lunchtime. Then it will use. For the

:00:20.:00:24.

rest of Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales, a mixture of

:00:25.:00:27.

bright spells, sunny spells and some showers.

:00:28.:00:31.

between that, it is his full-time job.

:00:32.:00:34.

In the sunshine, high is up to 21. It'll feel quite pleasant if you

:00:35.:00:41.

stay out of the breeze. Heading on through the evening and overnight

:00:42.:00:44.

period, against the wind continues to come down. The showers fading and

:00:45.:00:51.

the skies clear and that's a recipe for a cold night. In fact, the

:00:52.:00:54.

temperatures overnight are going to be pretty low so if you are camping,

:00:55.:00:59.

bear that in mind. In the Glens of Scotland, down to three degrees,

:01:00.:01:03.

five in the North of England, eight as we pushed down towards the far

:01:04.:01:07.

south-east. That does mean tomorrow we start off with clear skies,

:01:08.:01:11.

sunshine, plus the north of the country, more cloud to developing

:01:12.:01:16.

and some showers. Further dryer and bright and temperatures up to 21-22.

:01:17.:01:21.

Hello. It's Monday. It's 10 o clock.

:01:22.:01:23.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

:01:24.:01:24.

Learning to live with bipolar disorder.

:01:25.:01:26.

That's the reality for an estimated one in 100 people.

:01:27.:01:29.

We'll speak to actor and film director Adam Deacon about what life

:01:30.:01:32.

When I look back to outsiders looking at me, everybody seemed to

:01:33.:01:48.

say the same thing, you were manic. They banned Red Bull onset. I think

:01:49.:01:52.

they thought it was cans of Red Bull and I was just drinking it down.

:01:53.:01:57.

Team GB winds its first gold medal of the Rio Olympic Games. Adam Peaty

:01:58.:02:02.

stormed to victory in the 100 metre breast stroke in spectacular style.

:02:03.:02:08.

COMMENTATOR: There's oceans blue water between Adam Peaty and the

:02:09.:02:13.

rest of the world. This is utterly brilliant. Absolutely fantastic.

:02:14.:02:17.

Adam Peaty takes Olympic gold for Great Britain by an absolute

:02:18.:02:22.

straight. A wonderful world record. 57.1 three. He has obliterated the

:02:23.:02:29.

world record. This is a product of seven years of work. I came out

:02:30.:02:35.

tonight, came back, with everything I've got. Everything which has got

:02:36.:02:41.

you down these past few years and more importantly, I did it for my

:02:42.:02:44.

country because it means so much to me.

:02:45.:02:46.

Half of all boys think dieting and extreme exercising are as much

:02:47.:02:49.

an issue for them as for girls according to new research given

:02:50.:02:51.

Is it time to start taking body confidence in boys more seriously?

:02:52.:03:04.

Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:03:05.:03:09.

Team GB has won its first gold medal of the Rio Olympics.

:03:10.:03:12.

Adam Peaty broke his own world record to win the 100

:03:13.:03:15.

Just minutes later, there was a silver medal

:03:16.:03:20.

for Jazz Carlin in the women's 400 metres freestyle.

:03:21.:03:28.

A bomb has exploded at a hospital in south-west Pakistan,

:03:29.:03:30.

killing at least 45 people and wounding many more.

:03:31.:03:32.

Officials say most of the victims were lawyers, who had brought

:03:33.:03:36.

in the body of a senior colleague, who had been shot dead.

:03:37.:03:41.

A five-day strike by members of the RMT union

:03:42.:03:44.

It will affect hundreds of thousands of commuters.

:03:45.:03:48.

It's over a plan by the operators for Southern's drivers rather

:03:49.:03:51.

than its guards to open and close carriage doors.

:03:52.:03:55.

Southern Rail says it will only be able to run

:03:56.:03:58.

People are under-reporting how many calories they consume

:03:59.:04:06.

by as much as a third, according to a new report.

:04:07.:04:09.

Scientific tests show people eat 3,000 calories a day on average,

:04:10.:04:12.

but claim to have eaten only 2,000 when surveyed.

:04:13.:04:14.

The Behavioural Insights Team warns that this could be affecting

:04:15.:04:16.

A prominent loyalist has been shot dead in Belfast. The man has been

:04:17.:04:35.

named locally as John Borland, a member of the Ulster defence

:04:36.:04:39.

Association. Northern Ireland is First Minister Arlene Foster and

:04:40.:04:42.

Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness have both condemned the

:04:43.:04:43.

killing. The children's charity, Barnado's,

:04:44.:04:44.

says not enough children in care in England are receiving

:04:45.:04:46.

support from mentors. Children are entitled

:04:47.:04:48.

to have an adult who visits them A study funded by the charity

:04:49.:04:51.

suggests that only three out of every 100 children are receiving

:04:52.:04:58.

independent support. Only a action of new fathers are

:04:59.:05:09.

taking advantage of rules which allow them to share parental leave

:05:10.:05:14.

with their partners. Laws allowing shared leave have been in place

:05:15.:05:19.

since April last year that a report by a commercial law firm says just

:05:20.:05:23.

3000 parents use the right in the first three months of this year.

:05:24.:05:25.

Former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls will be competing in this year's

:05:26.:05:28.

The former politician is the first name to be officially revealed

:05:29.:05:32.

He told Chris Evans on his Radio 2 breakfast show

:05:33.:05:35.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:05:36.:05:40.

Thank you very much. Thank you as well for your comments this morning.

:05:41.:05:52.

Always really appreciate them. A lot of you talking

:05:53.:05:55.

Film on bipolar. We will talk to add live in the next few minutes. Well

:05:56.:06:02.

done, Adam Deacon, for speaking out. I'm sure many others will go through

:06:03.:06:08.

similar experiences. From Sharon, really good film about bipolar

:06:09.:06:11.

disorder. We need to keep talking. Peter on Facebook says, do share

:06:12.:06:17.

this film. There must be thousands of us out there suffering in

:06:18.:06:21.

silence. Getting diagnosed is as hard as living with the illness.

:06:22.:06:26.

Well done to your programme for bringing bipolar too light.

:06:27.:06:31.

Particularly with your own experiences which I will feed into

:06:32.:06:34.

the conversation with Adam in the next few minutes. This is a totally

:06:35.:06:40.

different subject from Peter. Disappointed you've not yet

:06:41.:06:47.

interviewed Adam Peaty's first schoolteacher's second grandfather

:06:48.:06:49.

's cousin. Listen, we've got an hour to go for that we may get the month.

:06:50.:06:52.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:06:53.:06:54.

If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:06:55.:06:58.

Good morning, Victoria. Team GB's success in the summing pool. More in

:06:59.:07:06.

that the moment but we're on the Olympics at this morning. Our home

:07:07.:07:10.

at the BBC sport centre we are sharing with BBC Breakfast over the

:07:11.:07:14.

next fortnight, so this is our new home for the next couple of weeks.

:07:15.:07:20.

Very smart. A fantastic moment for Team GB last night. They won their

:07:21.:07:24.

first medal of the limpid games. Adam Peaty claiming goals. Jazz

:07:25.:07:31.

Carlin getting silver. Adam Peaty got another world record as he

:07:32.:07:35.

stormed to victory in the 100 metre breast stroke whilst Jazz Carlin was

:07:36.:07:38.

forced to miss the games in London four years ago because of illness

:07:39.:07:41.

but finished second and the form and metre freestyle. Here is Adam wild.

:07:42.:07:49.

This was the site Team GB, all of Great Britain had been waiting for.

:07:50.:07:53.

Having broken his own world record in qualifying, there could have been

:07:54.:07:59.

no further favourite Van Adam Peaty. Still in an Olympic final, there are

:08:00.:08:03.

no certainties, nothing can be taken for granted. The leading from the

:08:04.:08:09.

font is what this 21-year-old does best. Roared on by his family, once

:08:10.:08:16.

again no one could get close. COMMENTATOR: Absolutely fantastic.

:08:17.:08:19.

Adam Peaty takes Olympic gold for Great Britain by an absolute

:08:20.:08:23.

straight. He has obliterated the world record. The first men's gold

:08:24.:08:27.

in the pool for a generation, no proud parents. Wow. That's all I can

:08:28.:08:36.

say. I don't know whether to cry. I'm ecstatic, absolutely so proud of

:08:37.:08:40.

him. Family support and the support of Team GB, watching from the camp,

:08:41.:08:46.

Adam Peaty, and inspiration. It's so surreal to get the first gold, but

:08:47.:08:53.

this is a product of seven years. More importantly, I did it for my

:08:54.:08:56.

country because it means so much to me. The first medal one, Britain did

:08:57.:09:01.

not have to wait long for a second. A silver for Jazz Carlin in the 400

:09:02.:09:06.

metre freestyle. COMMENTATOR: A wonderful silver

:09:07.:09:10.

medal for Great Britain. A massive lifetime best. Well done. I was

:09:11.:09:15.

watching Adam break the world record and win the gold and that was a

:09:16.:09:19.

special feeling, I had goose bumps, so I knew I had to stay calm and

:09:20.:09:24.

relaxed before the race but I'm absolutely gobsmacked. I can't

:09:25.:09:27.

believe the time, as well, I'm so happy! Britton on the podium in Rio,

:09:28.:09:33.

plenty to inspire, plenty of hope for more moments like this. -- Great

:09:34.:09:43.

Britain. Joining me now is David carry. David, let's start with Adam

:09:44.:09:46.

Peaty. He came into this as favourite. He's already broken his

:09:47.:09:52.

own world record but he had to execute and he certainly did that.

:09:53.:09:56.

He really did and right from the start, as well, heats in the

:09:57.:10:00.

morning, 21 years old, first-time Olympian, he breaks the world record

:10:01.:10:04.

and backs it up in the semifinal and does this incredible swim. So it was

:10:05.:10:10.

just wonderful to be able to see that all that planning, all that

:10:11.:10:14.

detailed work over the last seven years he's been doing with his coach

:10:15.:10:19.

in Derby has paid off. That is the moment right there. The jubilation.

:10:20.:10:27.

And his grandmother as well. There he is, taking his place on the

:10:28.:10:33.

podium and winning that gold medal. Let's talk about Jazz Carlin. It's

:10:34.:10:37.

been difficult for her because she missed London 2012 because the

:10:38.:10:41.

vanilla is. A special moment for her as she winds silver in the 400

:10:42.:10:45.

metres freestyle. It really is. She was in the stands of London 2012 to

:10:46.:10:49.

see the amazing swimmers there but for her to be able to get in there

:10:50.:10:54.

immediately after Adam, and get a silver medal is brilliant. She

:10:55.:10:59.

didn't have an easy run into this. In the trials, she didn't qualify in

:11:00.:11:04.

this event but in the 800. So to be able to see her execute, as you said

:11:05.:11:09.

before, and deliver when it counts, it's so nice to see. You can see the

:11:10.:11:13.

smile which comes across, how happy she is and that's the first Welsh

:11:14.:11:21.

female swimming medal in 87 years. Incredible, fantastic. Talking about

:11:22.:11:25.

a man who always delivers, Michael Phelps, the world's greatest ever

:11:26.:11:28.

Olympian, he came into these Olympics with a team gold medals, 22

:11:29.:11:34.

in total, and has added to that again in the relay. He just never

:11:35.:11:41.

stops. 19 times gold medallist Olympic champion. I think there's

:11:42.:11:45.

another two or three for him, couple more relays he's looking good in and

:11:46.:11:52.

he has that revenge match in the 100 fly, as well, so there is more to

:11:53.:11:56.

come from this man. Just incredible. Our own in achievements pale into

:11:57.:12:03.

insignificance. Let's stay with the Olympics. Lizzie Armistead finished

:12:04.:12:06.

fifth in the women's road race on a course which has since been labelled

:12:07.:12:11.

dangerous. After a difficult week for her, she sought to explain the

:12:12.:12:15.

reasons behind the three missed drugs tests and was hugely emotional

:12:16.:12:19.

in the interview. She missed out on a medal yesterday. The race, though,

:12:20.:12:23.

was marred by a terrible crash to the race leader, leading at the

:12:24.:12:30.

time, but she's OK. I mentioned earlier that I am past commenting,

:12:31.:12:36.

I'm actually quite angry about it, because I went down there with you

:12:37.:12:40.

and we looked at the course and we saw those edges and we knew that

:12:41.:12:45.

this was way past being technical, this is dangerous, and that means

:12:46.:12:48.

the people who designed the course and said what safety features they

:12:49.:12:52.

needed to be had left it. A bit of an upset in the tennis for the Andy

:12:53.:12:56.

Murray and brother, Jamie, are out of the doubles, knocked out in the

:12:57.:13:01.

first round. They were seeded second, and beaten by the Brazilian

:13:02.:13:06.

pair and they lost in the first round of the 2012 London Olympics

:13:07.:13:10.

and in the second round for years in Beijing. Not a great moment for the

:13:11.:13:15.

brothers. There was another surprise in the tennis. Novak Djokovic was

:13:16.:13:19.

knocked out in the men's singles beaten by Dell Potter Row. He also

:13:20.:13:26.

beat him back in 2012. You can see what it means of Novak Djokovic,

:13:27.:13:29.

missing out on that potential medal as he left the court in tears,

:13:30.:13:32.

saying this is one of the toughest losses of his life. -- one Dell

:13:33.:13:38.

Potter. A chance of medal success later in the rugby sevens. The

:13:39.:13:42.

women's team are facing New Zealand in the semifinals. Having won the

:13:43.:13:49.

group, beating Fiji, this was the success, Abbey Brown sealing it with

:13:50.:13:54.

her second try of the match. Their semifinal getaway 7pm tonight UK

:13:55.:14:01.

time. The final should getaway at around 11pm. They will face either

:14:02.:14:05.

Canada or Australia if they reach the final. Fingers crossed for them.

:14:06.:14:09.

Let's look at the medal table. This is how it looks this morning. Great

:14:10.:14:14.

Britain currently in eighth, following the success in the summing

:14:15.:14:18.

pool. Two medals on the board so far and remember it took Team GB five

:14:19.:14:22.

days back in 2012 before they won their first gold medal but here we

:14:23.:14:26.

are two days in already and we have a gold medal on the board so it's

:14:27.:14:28.

looking good so far for Team GB. "I was lying in a hospital bed

:14:29.:14:32.

thinking I am a lunatic" - the words of Stephen Fry to actor

:14:33.:14:35.

and director Adam Deacon in a film for this programme,

:14:36.:14:38.

as they discuss living with the mental health

:14:39.:14:41.

condition, bipolar. Adam shot to fame in the film

:14:42.:14:43.

Kidulthood about three In 2012 he won BAFTA's

:14:44.:14:47.

Rising Star award after writing But then his life

:14:48.:14:52.

took a downward turn. Adam ended up in court twice

:14:53.:14:58.

for trolling his former colleague on Twitter and for threatening

:14:59.:15:01.

a stranger with a sword. He was mentally ill at the time and,

:15:02.:15:04.

after being sectioned, he was diagnosed with bipolar

:15:05.:15:06.

disorder or manic depression. It's a condition that affects one

:15:07.:15:09.

in every 100 adults. We'll talk to Adam live in a moment,

:15:10.:15:14.

but For his film he wanted to meet Stephen Fry to see how bipolar

:15:15.:15:19.

affects him and we saw Here's an extract of their

:15:20.:15:22.

conversation. You are one of the main people I

:15:23.:15:37.

would find myself looking up. You had a public breakdown yourself? I

:15:38.:15:43.

did. I suppose it almost -- it all started for me... Had I lived later

:15:44.:15:53.

I would have been diagnosed as having ADHD. Unbelievably

:15:54.:15:59.

disruptive, annoying person who could not stop speaking. That was

:16:00.:16:03.

bad and disruptive and I got expelled from one school after

:16:04.:16:08.

another. Then I thought everything was fine. I got over it in my early

:16:09.:16:14.

20s. That is when it all started to go wrong. I realised that I was

:16:15.:16:20.

somehow prey to these terrible moods. And so when it came to this,

:16:21.:16:27.

I was in a play and I walked out. I had a collapse of confidence and of

:16:28.:16:33.

happiness and a general feeling that my life was over. I got a proper

:16:34.:16:37.

diagnosis. And that is when I thought everything was OK because I

:16:38.:16:42.

had named the Beast, I had faced it. I was kidding myself. The watch --

:16:43.:16:49.

be much worse suicide attempt came several years after that. I was

:16:50.:16:52.

lying in a hospital bed thinking, I am a lunatic, I am not a sane

:16:53.:17:00.

person. I look back at the work I've done, and I think, maybe this

:17:01.:17:04.

stemmed from the bipolar. I look back at the movie I made. I wrote

:17:05.:17:09.

it, directed it, and I was in it. But everyone seemed to say the same

:17:10.:17:16.

thing. You was quite manic. They banned Red Bull, I think they

:17:17.:17:24.

thought it was red ball! One of the things I know from my spoons is that

:17:25.:17:28.

people who love me best read my mood more quickly than I can myself. --

:17:29.:17:36.

from my experience. My husband hears it in my voice, sees it in my eyes.

:17:37.:17:43.

Does it worry you? It does. I once had it so badly that I thought, had

:17:44.:17:49.

I even a grain of religion in May, I would have thought but was talking

:17:50.:17:54.

to me. I felt like Joan of Arc. I felt shining. It was quite

:17:55.:17:58.

frightening in the end. You are going through hell, you are all over

:17:59.:18:05.

the place. How did you cope with it? I have always lived my life in a

:18:06.:18:10.

strange a public way in terms of being open about things. In the

:18:11.:18:15.

1980s, when it was quite unusual, I came out as being gay. There are

:18:16.:18:19.

plenty of gay people in show business but there were not many who

:18:20.:18:23.

were out. It was a similar thing inasmuch as, if you are in our

:18:24.:18:27.

business, it is easier to talk about your emotions because our business

:18:28.:18:32.

is one in which emotions and experience are the ingredients for

:18:33.:18:35.

the films or the books that we call Corp. I ended up having this

:18:36.:18:42.

breakdown. But I ended up making it even more public because of Twitter.

:18:43.:18:46.

I was writing this crazy stuff on Twitter without even realising it.

:18:47.:18:50.

Sometimes I wish somebody took my phone away and just like made me

:18:51.:18:57.

come of social media for a while. What I sometimes feel as well is

:18:58.:19:01.

that life can seem like a struggle and a fight. Imagine you are in a

:19:02.:19:07.

dense wood. You're constantly hacking away. You think if you hack

:19:08.:19:11.

your way hard enough, everything will be wonderful. Then you realise

:19:12.:19:15.

with a shock that human existence is being in the wood. My main worry,

:19:16.:19:21.

which were I was hoping to get some advice from you, I had a real fear,

:19:22.:19:27.

will you ever work in the industry again? Will they still think you are

:19:28.:19:33.

mad, you are not reliable? There were all these fears. What do you do

:19:34.:19:38.

to let people know that you are cool, you are fine? Exactly what you

:19:39.:19:42.

are done. The upfront with them. You have the advantage that you are in a

:19:43.:19:49.

soft cushioning kind of industry, where people know and understand

:19:50.:19:53.

you. You have the disadvantage that you are acting it out in public.

:19:54.:19:57.

Have you ever been quite frustrated with it in the sense that there are

:19:58.:20:01.

jobs you want to do but you are being told, Stephen, we are not

:20:02.:20:10.

really sure? Only when I made a terrible... When I went down a

:20:11.:20:17.

terrible corridor of drug-taking. It is quite possible I was denied work,

:20:18.:20:22.

rightly, because I was really a mess. Look at the remarkable people

:20:23.:20:27.

in our history who have had this condition. Look what they have

:20:28.:20:32.

achieved and be confident that it is not a death sentence. That's it. And

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maybe, Adam, this is a theory I have, and it is fanciful, but you

:20:40.:20:43.

know how our gene pool, what makes us humans? We had ancestors, some

:20:44.:20:50.

ancestors were hunters, they went out there and they were physical and

:20:51.:20:59.

strong. But not all ancestors. And maybe the human race needs some

:21:00.:21:03.

people who can do that. Other people who stay at home and do the cooking.

:21:04.:21:09.

Men and women. And to paint on the walls of the cave and tell stories.

:21:10.:21:13.

And that makes the human race a better race. And maybe you have some

:21:14.:21:21.

were totally out there, freakish. They make bizarre, bold decisions,

:21:22.:21:26.

have weird fantasies, and actually are to all intents and purposes

:21:27.:21:30.

almost mad, but they advance the Gino as well. Humanity has, without

:21:31.:21:40.

us, it would be a weaker species. Part of this bewildering complex and

:21:41.:21:45.

ambiguous thing that is humankind, is oddity and quirkiness. And you

:21:46.:21:50.

are privileged to be one of those who is just a little bit odd. Those

:21:51.:21:55.

differences do not make the world more difficult. They make the world

:21:56.:21:59.

more rich. Stephen Fry in conversation with

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Adam Deacon. You can see the full film on our programme page. Do you

:22:03.:22:08.

share it. It is such an insight, it really is.

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Adam Deacon is here now, along with Georgina Bobb

:22:10.:22:11.

and Denise Martin, who also have bipolar.

:22:12.:22:14.

And Sophie Corlett from the mental health charity MIND.

:22:15.:22:21.

What did you learn from making that film about your own condition? I

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learned that there are more people out there than what I ever thought

:22:30.:22:34.

suffered from this. And people are quite willing to talk about it if

:22:35.:22:37.

you give them the chance. And people want to talk about it. They want

:22:38.:22:42.

their stories to be out there. That was one of the main things that took

:22:43.:22:47.

me by surprise. A woman recognised you and wanted to talk to you about

:22:48.:22:53.

her condition, didn't she? Yes, and that kept happening while I was

:22:54.:22:57.

filming. So many people open up. People want that voice. They want to

:22:58.:23:01.

let people know what is going on. I think people feel quite frustrated

:23:02.:23:06.

that it is only now we are starting to jump on it and talk about it

:23:07.:23:10.

more, and the media are talking about it more. What did you think of

:23:11.:23:17.

what Adam discovered? I thought it was great. Having bipolar myself, it

:23:18.:23:22.

is always good to see other celebrities who can talk about the

:23:23.:23:26.

condition quite openly. I think it is good for generally people who

:23:27.:23:30.

suffer from a bipolar to have is people on TV and other role models

:23:31.:23:35.

to see they have bipolar and relate to them. I think it is great. I

:23:36.:23:40.

think it was really powerful and honest. I think Adam is very brave

:23:41.:23:48.

to share it with smack. Why is it important to speak openly about

:23:49.:23:51.

bipolar? What is the stigma associated with it? Generally

:23:52.:23:59.

speaking, myself, I have bipolar and I am very sort of open about it. I

:24:00.:24:04.

work in television. I worked behind the scenes as a production

:24:05.:24:10.

coordinator. I don't usually discuss my bipolar, essentially, because I

:24:11.:24:14.

know it is something that people may have prejudice against. What do they

:24:15.:24:20.

think someone with bipolar is like? I'm not sure what they think. But I

:24:21.:24:24.

have noticed it before. People are not that forthcoming when it comes

:24:25.:24:28.

to having bipolar. But essentially I just think it is about time that

:24:29.:24:35.

people literally can go out there and be like, you know, I have got

:24:36.:24:39.

bipolar, I am proud. We are normal people at the end of the day. I

:24:40.:24:44.

think the more people talk about it, the better it is for everybody. What

:24:45.:24:50.

is the stigma associated with it, Denise? What did people think of

:24:51.:24:55.

someone with bipolar? I think they are often frightened of how that

:24:56.:25:02.

person might present. Very often it is like of awareness and lack of

:25:03.:25:05.

knowledge. Like Georgina said, we are just regular people. We have a

:25:06.:25:10.

thing called bipolar we have to live with. But stigma is a very big

:25:11.:25:16.

thing. The more people know, the more people share, the more people

:25:17.:25:20.

talk, it will break down that stigma. Stephen Fry used the word

:25:21.:25:25.

mad. He said he was lying a hospital bed thinking he was a lunatic. Do

:25:26.:25:31.

you think that is part of the stigma? That others think if you

:25:32.:25:34.

have bipolar there is something crazy about you? Yes, that was my

:25:35.:25:40.

main worry. That is why I wanted to get the message out there. You are

:25:41.:25:44.

not mad. You may go through a low time or something might happen but

:25:45.:25:48.

you are not mad. I think that was the main thing I wanted to get

:25:49.:25:52.

across. That is the main stigma. People don't really know how to deal

:25:53.:25:56.

with that. Sophie, how does the stigma impact on people? It is a

:25:57.:26:02.

real range. It is good to see people more open and the stigma is being

:26:03.:26:08.

broken. But people face all sorts of things. People find it difficult to

:26:09.:26:12.

get into work. They face stigma from their own families. That ends up

:26:13.:26:16.

with people almost stigmatising themselves because they are worried

:26:17.:26:20.

about speaking out. I think that is the saddest thing in a way, when

:26:21.:26:25.

stigma starts to affect people's own behaviour, which means it is

:26:26.:26:30.

difficult for people to seek help, from friends, work, from the NHS.

:26:31.:26:35.

The knock-on impact can be devastating for people. Adam, can we

:26:36.:26:43.

talk about the highs of bipolar and the lows. When you are in a high

:26:44.:26:48.

period, you talked about writing, acting and directing your own film

:26:49.:26:53.

in a high period, that sounds very productive, but not necessarily a

:26:54.:26:57.

good thing because you know a huge low is coming? Yes, what is weird

:26:58.:27:02.

about my kind of story is that when I was doing these things I had no

:27:03.:27:07.

idea I had any mental health issue. I was just doing these things for

:27:08.:27:11.

years thinking, this is quite a normal way to live. But when I look

:27:12.:27:14.

back, I wasn't sleeping, I wasn't eating properly, I was just kind of

:27:15.:27:20.

in severe tunnel vision mode of thinking, I have got to get this

:27:21.:27:24.

stuff done. It wasn't until it all went wrong, when I look back and

:27:25.:27:32.

realise. So now, I am learning about the difference between the manic

:27:33.:27:36.

stages and the low stages. But since I have come out of Hospital, it has

:27:37.:27:42.

been on one level. Which I guess is a good thing. I never want to get

:27:43.:27:48.

myself in any trouble like that again. What about yourself, Denise,

:27:49.:27:56.

in terms of the contrast? For me, particularly, depression is a

:27:57.:27:59.

problem. That is much more painful to deal with. But like Adam said,

:28:00.:28:06.

when my mood is elated, I am a lot more productive, I write a lot of

:28:07.:28:12.

lists, I perhaps some -- do some grandiose things and have ideas I

:28:13.:28:15.

would never normally have about things I could maybe do in the

:28:16.:28:19.

future but it is not going to happen because it is part of my illness. Do

:28:20.:28:27.

you do things you shouldn't do? Yes, absolutely. I sometimes take risks,

:28:28.:28:30.

spend money that I haven't got. Talk too much. Yeah. It is very, very

:28:31.:28:42.

difficult to manage. But as I've got older, I'm learning to associate

:28:43.:28:47.

Triggers that might lead to a change in mood, especially sleep. Going

:28:48.:28:53.

without sleep for a long period makes me poorly. What about

:28:54.:28:58.

yourself? I take medication every day. Is that an antidepressant, what

:28:59.:29:07.

is it? It is anti-psychotic medication. It keeps me well. I

:29:08.:29:15.

don't experience any highs or any lows. Do you feel like you? Yes,

:29:16.:29:21.

totally like me. Before I was diagnosed I was up and down. Going

:29:22.:29:26.

out shopping, spending all my money, I was overly confident. Now I am

:29:27.:29:32.

more sort of to myself, and normal. I get my confidence back. But I just

:29:33.:29:37.

think generally bipolar is an illness, it is a good thing as well

:29:38.:29:44.

as a bad thing. I think it is a good thing in general. I've got some

:29:45.:29:50.

messages on social media. In terms of people watching and listening to

:29:51.:29:54.

your talking about this now, and they might be recognising some of

:29:55.:29:57.

what you are talking about but not realise they have bipolar or a

:29:58.:30:01.

mental health condition, what is the advice?

:30:02.:30:06.

Talk to people and ask them their views of you and whether they have

:30:07.:30:12.

noticed that. As Adam did with his friend in the film are full to your

:30:13.:30:16.

friend was incredibly honest. Yes, absolutely, talk to your GP. We have

:30:17.:30:21.

lots of information on the website to help you spot the signs in

:30:22.:30:24.

yourself so there are things you can do but definitely go and talk to the

:30:25.:30:30.

GP. As Georgina said, there is talking treatments, medication,

:30:31.:30:35.

which you got, Adam, and also lots of tips about how, if you are

:30:36.:30:41.

diagnosed, how you can do things for yourself to keep yourself well.

:30:42.:30:47.

Sleep, exercise. Different people find different things useful search

:30:48.:30:50.

might take a little bit of a while. Just to sort out what works for you

:30:51.:30:54.

but definitely there are things out there to help you. Let me read

:30:55.:30:58.

semesters for you, Adam. This one says, Adam seems like a great

:30:59.:31:03.

person, I wish continued success in the future. Kelly says my mum took

:31:04.:31:07.

her own life in 2013. She was bipolar since I was a baby. No

:31:08.:31:11.

support for her or her children was given. We grew up scared, confused.

:31:12.:31:19.

Rosie says, your comments on cannabis consumption was

:31:20.:31:23.

interesting. I worked in mental health and came across people who

:31:24.:31:26.

developed bipolar after smoking marijuana. Pam on Facebook

:31:27.:31:31.

absolutely amazing film and for Adam to do this is brilliant. It's really

:31:32.:31:36.

helped me understand this, all the best to you, Adam, you deserve the

:31:37.:31:40.

best in the world. Thank you for those. What would you say to those

:31:41.:31:44.

people? It's really hard to hear about someone killing themselves

:31:45.:31:52.

with it. Thank you so much for the great support, the messages and

:31:53.:31:54.

stuff, but it's such a serious subject. Sometimes I feel a bit

:31:55.:32:01.

overwhelmed by it. I never thought I would be kind of sitting here

:32:02.:32:04.

talking about this stuff. It's all kind of happened. I felt like I have

:32:05.:32:09.

had to erase that, that, I think, you know, as everyone has said,

:32:10.:32:15.

you're not totally out of the game, I don't think. There is still hope.

:32:16.:32:20.

The problem that we have is that it seems like, especially with the

:32:21.:32:24.

people I've spoken to, is that sometimes it just feels like people

:32:25.:32:27.

have to go through the hardest time before they get help. Personally I

:32:28.:32:33.

went to the GP about a year before I had any kind of breakdown and I was

:32:34.:32:37.

just told, I'm sure you are fine. I've seen you on TV, you look well,

:32:38.:32:42.

man. That kind of stuff does not help and when you are getting told

:32:43.:32:46.

that by a doctor, you feel lost and I felt like I only got help once it

:32:47.:32:50.

all went wrong. That needs to be solved. That's a really good point.

:32:51.:32:57.

It's the same with most people. When I was hospitalised, about two or

:32:58.:33:00.

three weeks I was in hospital, it was literally one I had an episode

:33:01.:33:06.

and it was quite severe. That was when I was treated, luckily, and I'm

:33:07.:33:12.

very productive and successful now, but I don't think people who have

:33:13.:33:16.

mental health issues, I feel they shouldn't have to go through that in

:33:17.:33:19.

order to be treated. I think that's really important. This tweet says,

:33:20.:33:25.

are wonderful, humbling conversation this morning on the programme. Thank

:33:26.:33:29.

you to you all are. I have been diagnosed with bipolar and I have

:33:30.:33:33.

been inspired by people open about it and their illness. Fight stigma.

:33:34.:33:40.

Sam says, great to see mental health can be openly spoken about and we

:33:41.:33:43.

need to make it more accessible to talk about. You talked, Georgina,

:33:44.:33:48.

saying you have disclosed bipolar at a job interview. Yes, I have. Did

:33:49.:33:57.

you get any of those jobs? No, I did not. For all the other interviews I

:33:58.:34:00.

didn't disclose, I managed to get the job. What is the advice when it

:34:01.:34:06.

comes to trying to get a job? Everyone has to do what feels

:34:07.:34:10.

comfortable for them, so I would never say always disclose, but if

:34:11.:34:16.

you want to get support, when you are in a job, and for many people

:34:17.:34:20.

that's going to be really important, it's important to disclose at some

:34:21.:34:23.

point otherwise you won't get support. Do think about it and think

:34:24.:34:29.

about the timing and when you might disclose but also be aware of the

:34:30.:34:33.

sort of job you are in sometimes. There are legal requirements so you

:34:34.:34:37.

may need to check those out. That's not every job, obviously. We are

:34:38.:34:41.

working really hard to get to the point where it would be fine for

:34:42.:34:44.

everybody to disclose, and that's how it ought to be but,

:34:45.:34:49.

unfortunately, not every employer is at that place at the moment and

:34:50.:34:54.

often the people interviewing, they don't necessarily even have any

:34:55.:34:58.

understanding of mental health. They can just be confused about it. This

:34:59.:35:03.

comes from Mike, I suffer from bipolar everyday and I'm judged

:35:04.:35:07.

because I look OK on the outside but no one has any idea what's going on

:35:08.:35:11.

on the inside. Thank you very much for being so candid. Thank you.

:35:12.:35:16.

For details of organisations which offer advice and support

:35:17.:35:18.

about bipolar disorder, go online to bbc.co.uk/actionline.

:35:19.:35:24.

And at 11, straight after our programme, you have the chance

:35:25.:35:26.

to put your own questions to Adam as he will be taking part

:35:27.:35:30.

in a Facebook live event on the BBC Facebook page.

:35:31.:35:32.

Go to facebook.com/bbcnews after the programme at 11 o'clock.

:35:33.:35:43.

Adam will answer any question. He is good for that. That is at 11

:35:44.:35:52.

o'clock. Let me bring you this news to do the Labour Party. Five new

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new joiners, where barred from voting for either Jeremy Corbyn or

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Owen Smith, but five new members have won their legal right to take

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part in that event. Coming up in a moment,

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new research given exclusively to this programme shows over half

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brought in the victim of a colleague had been shot dead. Edward Daly,

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whose image went worldwide during bloody Sunday, has died. The

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82-year-old had been ill in hospital. The father, the image of

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the then Father Daly, waving handkerchiefs, as one of the victims

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of the bloody Sunday was carried to safety, was one of the most enduring

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at Southern rail is underway. It will affect hundreds of thousands of

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commuters. It's over a plan by the operators for drivers rather than

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guards to open and close carriage doors. Southern rail says it will

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only be able to run 60% of its services. All the Delta airline

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flights have been grounded after the company describes a system outage

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across the USA. The airline says it is working to resolve the issue. A

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damning report by the children's services Inspectorate Ofsted says

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there are growing levels of violence between young people towards staff

:38:19.:38:23.

at the Medway secure training centre in Kent. Reports say the centre has

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lost two thirds of its staff in the last year which means most people

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working there are now very inexperienced. The centre was run by

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GE for respite in March it announced it was withdrawing from the

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contract. British people are under reporting how many calories they

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consume by as much as a half. Tests show people eat 3000 calories a day

:38:47.:38:51.

on average but claimed to have eaten only 2000. The behavioural insights

:38:52.:38:55.

team warns that recent surveys suggesting dropping calorie intake

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be misleading. That's a summary of the latest news. Do join me for BBC

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newsroom live at 11am. Cheers, Ben. Now the sport. Let's get more on the

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success in the summing pool at the Rio Olympics for the Adam Peaty

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storming to victory in the men's 100 metre breast stroke final. He broke

:39:14.:39:17.

his world record a game just as he did to qualify for the final. It's

:39:18.:39:21.

the first gold medal won by a British man at an Olympics in 28

:39:22.:39:28.

years in the pool. Jazz Carlin one Great Britain second medal of the

:39:29.:39:34.

game winning silver in the women's 400 meter freestyle after missing

:39:35.:39:37.

the London Olympics back in 2012 because of an illness. She received

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her silver medal this afternoon, and set a new personal best in the event

:39:44.:39:46.

for some incredible performance from her. Lizzie Armistead, the cyclist,

:39:47.:39:52.

finished fifth on the women's road race on a course which afterwards is

:39:53.:39:56.

labelled dangerous. It was a difficult build-up for Lizzie

:39:57.:39:59.

Armistead following her three missed drug tests for that she missed out

:40:00.:40:02.

on a medal in the race which was actually really marred I what was a

:40:03.:40:09.

terrible crash to the race leader. Some cricket news for the England

:40:10.:40:13.

beat Pakistan by 141 runs in the third test edge Boston to take a 2-1

:40:14.:40:18.

series lead with one more test played -- Edgbaston. They could

:40:19.:40:22.

return to the top of the rankings if they win. The next match begins on

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Thursday. The latter Ibrahim vitch scored a winner. Man United beat

:40:29.:40:34.

Leicester in the Community Shield. A debut goal from the striker has

:40:35.:40:39.

recently joined the club, linking up with manager Jose Mourinho. Celtic

:40:40.:40:45.

made a winning start to the season. Scott Sinclair came off the bench to

:40:46.:40:50.

score with ten minutes left to go in the match. That win coming against

:40:51.:40:55.

hearts at Tynecastle. Only one story in town this morning and that is the

:40:56.:41:00.

success of Team GB's swimmers overnight in Rio. Cheers, John,

:41:01.:41:02.

thank you very much. Team GB's Olympic trampolinist

:41:03.:41:11.

Cat Driscoll, who will compete in her first event this coming

:41:12.:41:14.

Friday, and marathon runner Aly Dixon have been keeping

:41:15.:41:16.

a video diary for you. Here are Cat's thoughts after taking

:41:17.:41:18.

part in Rio's absorbing and sometimes surreal opening

:41:19.:41:21.

ceremony which was her first ever. There are some flashing images

:41:22.:41:23.

in her piece from the start. The first two British athletes

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across online today have guaranteed their selection for Rio. What a

:41:37.:41:39.

dream come true that will be for Ali Dixon. You are off to Rio, Ali!

:41:40.:42:07.

We're on the bus now. We walked around the village in formation

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getting ready for the opening ceremony. Bring it on. Very fancy,

:42:12.:42:19.

very British. We are very excited to experience the opening ceremony. We

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got to meet Andy Murray on the way round and have a chat with him which

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is really cool. We can chat to the big sports stars. Get to know a few

:42:27.:42:33.

more people. Everyone is excited. It's a privilege we get to be part

:42:34.:42:38.

of the team going. We are very, very excited.

:42:39.:43:17.

Just on the bus on the way back from the opening ceremony. Absolutely

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amazing experience. Really enjoyed it. Luckily we got to get on the

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front row. Just behind Andy, which was really, really cool. My first

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experience of an opening ceremony. I guess that's it. It's officially

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started now! We on the bus going to the village. We are with the

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Brazilians and the Germans. We're on the bus now. We will see a little

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bit of what they are doing in their qualifications. It's been a great

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start. Just watched the girls in their qualification event, which was

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our first, so it was really cool to see that. Feel the atmosphere.

:44:08.:44:12.

Really cool the British girls were in with the Brazilian team so the

:44:13.:44:16.

audience were going crazy, really cheering, so it was great to

:44:17.:44:20.

experience that. The girls did a great job, made the finals, which

:44:21.:44:25.

was a great challenge, so was good to get out of the village and see a

:44:26.:44:29.

bit of a competition and support the girls, so a very good day.

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Let's have a look ahead to what's coming up for Team GB

:44:41.:44:43.

Tom Daley is hoping to dive his way to a gold medal tonight with Dan

:44:44.:44:58.

Goodfellow in the synchronised ten metres. They took bronze earlier

:44:59.:45:09.

this year at the World Cup and silver leather there could be a

:45:10.:45:14.

medal for James died. The first-ever Olympic medals for rugby sevens will

:45:15.:45:17.

be awarded today. Great Britain are in for a -- with a shout after

:45:18.:45:28.

beating Fiji last night. Great Britain's men put in an impressive

:45:29.:45:32.

display on Saturday to reach tonight's gymnastics final. You will

:45:33.:45:39.

have to stay up until just after half past ten to find out how they

:45:40.:45:46.

get on. And however they get on, we will report tomorrow. Next, a

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damning report by Ofsted shows there are growing levels of Ireland's at

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Medway secure training centre in Kent. -- violence. Alison Holt is

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here. What do Ofsted say? Inspectors went in in June and looked at how

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the place was functioning. They say they found very high levels of

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violence and that they were growing. That this was between the young

:46:17.:46:22.

people there and towards staff. It comes after a troubled period for

:46:23.:46:28.

Medway. In January, a BBC Panorama investigation led to allegations

:46:29.:46:32.

that some staff were bullying trainees. It led to a police

:46:33.:46:41.

investigation, which is still ongoing, a number of arrests, and

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also G4S, the company running Medway, decided it would withdraw

:46:47.:46:51.

from the contract and handed over to the National Offender Management

:46:52.:46:56.

Service. That happened on July the 1st. This report is the last few

:46:57.:47:03.

weeks of G4S. What will happen to the Medway training centre now? The

:47:04.:47:09.

recommendations by Ofsted that will be implemented, it is a time of

:47:10.:47:14.

change. One of the things the report points to is the huge turnover of

:47:15.:47:19.

staff. They say in the last year, two thirds of staff have left. That

:47:20.:47:24.

means the people who have replaced them are largely inexperienced. That

:47:25.:47:29.

makes it more difficult to find ways of avoiding confrontation, to head

:47:30.:47:34.

of the problems. As staff become more experienced and there is more

:47:35.:47:39.

training, the emphasis will be on changing that. There is a new

:47:40.:47:44.

management team in there and it will be a tough job. What happens at this

:47:45.:47:51.

secure training centre? This is a place where children between 12 and

:47:52.:47:55.

18 are sent by the courts. It is meant to be different from a young

:47:56.:48:00.

offenders institution. It is meant to provide more rehabilitation and

:48:01.:48:08.

education for young people. G4S, they have sent us their statement.

:48:09.:48:13.

They say the report is deeply disappointing, coming as it does

:48:14.:48:17.

after a number of years in which Ofsted rated Medway as good or

:48:18.:48:21.

outstanding. They say they will learn from what has happened. Of

:48:22.:48:25.

course, they have now passed on the management of the centre. Thank you.

:48:26.:48:27.

New research given exclusively to this programme shows over half

:48:28.:48:30.

of boys at secondary school see eating disorders as an issue

:48:31.:48:33.

The study, involving 1,000 boys aged between eight and 18,

:48:34.:48:41.

shows that even some eight-year-olds are increasingly

:48:42.:48:42.

Evidence suggests that some of the children surveyed have even

:48:43.:48:47.

considered extreme measures such as steroid use and skipping meals

:48:48.:48:51.

to achieve what they consider to be a perfect body.

:48:52.:48:54.

Two thirds of boys questioned for the survey by a think tank set

:48:55.:48:57.

up by the advertising industry say it's unacceptable to airbrush

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the body shapes of male models in advertising.

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Let's talk to Mark Lund, the chair of Media Smart,

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a not-for-profit company that creates free educational

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Andrew Halls, the Head teacher at King's College

:49:14.:49:20.

And Dr Pooky Knightsmith, a director at the Charlie

:49:21.:49:24.

Waller Memorial Trust, a charity that works for more open

:49:25.:49:26.

discussion around mental health issues.

:49:27.:49:32.

Welcome all of you. I am going to start with you Andrew, as a head

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teacher. Is this an issue? It must be. The whole trend of the 21st

:49:43.:49:48.

century in the West has been towards a fascination with the individual

:49:49.:49:53.

self. I think what we have seen with girls has begun to impact on boys.

:49:54.:49:57.

They do care what they look like. We always did. I am sure boys in the

:49:58.:50:05.

70s as well. The preoccupation with perfection has become slightly

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nightmarish. I think that most affect boys. Obviously most boys are

:50:10.:50:15.

fine and get through life normally. The figures that are interesting are

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what evidence is there of a growth rate in problems? Even in 2011, the

:50:20.:50:28.

NHS was reporting a two thirds rise over ten years in males with eating

:50:29.:50:33.

disorders. It has got worse. The male grooming industry, that used to

:50:34.:50:39.

be a comical bit of splash on brewed for teenage boys in the 70s, 80s,

:50:40.:50:45.

has become a ?15 billion industry. Just this week in the press male

:50:46.:50:52.

body images have been everywhere, from David Cameron's stomach to

:50:53.:50:59.

Orlando Bloom in other respects. And Adam Peaty, which we see on our

:51:00.:51:04.

television screens. 20 hours training a week, looking ripped. It

:51:05.:51:11.

is definitely coming into the teenage boy consciousness and it is

:51:12.:51:20.

important to find ways to help them. How have your own experiences of

:51:21.:51:23.

anorexia when you were younger informed your work? In the interest

:51:24.:51:29.

of full disclosure, I am Indus -- recovery again from anorexia now. I

:51:30.:51:36.

was at a school which was very caring, very supportive. They did

:51:37.:51:40.

everything they could. However, there was not the help or advice

:51:41.:51:43.

available. There was an support for school staff to help them, to help

:51:44.:51:48.

their pupils. I truly believe my school would have done anything they

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could have. In my adult life I set out to try to put right that wrong.

:51:53.:51:58.

My experience is now, again, in recovery, trying to be in recovery

:51:59.:52:04.

from anorexia, mean that my passion is renewed, that I can identify

:52:05.:52:07.

again even more fully with young people facing the same issues.

:52:08.:52:16.

Including boys. Reading some of the stats, it is heartening, but some of

:52:17.:52:22.

it just points to adults, grown-ups, mums, dads, teachers, this is

:52:23.:52:25.

something we should take seriously with boys like we do with girls?

:52:26.:52:31.

With anorexia and other eating disorders, the sooner we can provide

:52:32.:52:35.

effective intervention, the more able we will be able to provide

:52:36.:52:39.

long-term sustainable help. From my own experience, if I had had

:52:40.:52:44.

different or better help at the beginning, I would not be

:52:45.:52:46.

experiencing relapse. It is very important for boys and girls. When

:52:47.:52:53.

working with schools up and down the country, this research will be a bit

:52:54.:52:59.

overdone OK, whatever a moment. We are seeing this on the ground all

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the time. Great to have research backing that up. It gives us a

:53:04.:53:09.

platform. Mark Lund, what is your organisation's roll? To work on

:53:10.:53:15.

behalf of the advertising industry to make young people better and

:53:16.:53:21.

users, better decoders of advertising and commercial images.

:53:22.:53:28.

On that point, 67% of boys say it is unacceptable to use digital

:53:29.:53:30.

techniques to manipulate the body shape of male models in advertising.

:53:31.:53:36.

Advertisers will ignore that, once they? No, they want, increasingly.

:53:37.:53:44.

Advertising exists only by the good grace of people who look at it and

:53:45.:53:47.

buy products from it. We move with it. According to this research,

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barely any boys register the fact that male models are airbrushed in a

:53:56.:54:01.

way that girls do? I think boys are less sophisticated in that area than

:54:02.:54:05.

girls have been, partly because they have been less concerned with it in

:54:06.:54:09.

the past. Research shows whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.

:54:10.:54:15.

22% of boys no change their own images before they post them on

:54:16.:54:18.

social media, whether it is making their teeth whiter, or putting a

:54:19.:54:25.

filter on. The fact is that boys are as much a part of the selfie

:54:26.:54:29.

generation. They are as much part of the smartphone users. Yes. But they

:54:30.:54:35.

are not as aware of the influence advertising has on them, according

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to this? They are less aware. I think that is a trend. What spooky

:54:41.:54:47.

and Andrew have said is that if you go into schools, teachers will be

:54:48.:54:52.

aware of that. That is why we have created this research, that is why

:54:53.:54:57.

we have created the materials to help teachers teach better

:54:58.:55:01.

resilience through a better understanding of how images are used

:55:02.:55:06.

and how body confidence can be created. Now is the right time. Are

:55:07.:55:13.

you shocked that half of all boys thinking -- think that dieting and

:55:14.:55:19.

extreme exercising I knew gentle nutrient issues? -- Curnow. I am not

:55:20.:55:25.

at all surprised. I think the media emphasis on some kind of perfection

:55:26.:55:34.

must trouble everyone. Your almost always weighing yourself up against

:55:35.:55:39.

other people. At the age of 13 and 14 if you have a slightly improbable

:55:40.:55:43.

faith in the perfectibility of self, and it was interesting in the

:55:44.:55:47.

research you did, that some boys felt if they did exercise enough or

:55:48.:55:51.

diet enough, they would get a perfect body... Some people are

:55:52.:55:58.

never going to get a perfect body. What I found heartening is that it

:55:59.:56:01.

is a pretty low proportion of boys who were worried about achieving the

:56:02.:56:09.

perfect body. Actually, let me just find it, I have written it down.

:56:10.:56:13.

Looking good comes really low on the list of things that make boys happy.

:56:14.:56:18.

What makes boys happy is spending time with friends and on computer

:56:19.:56:22.

games. They are more worried about doing well at school and perhaps

:56:23.:56:25.

being bullied at junior school than how they look. But how they look and

:56:26.:56:31.

how their friends feel they look is very important. If we look at

:56:32.:56:35.

secondary school boys, the biggest pressures on them to look good,

:56:36.:56:41.

friends, social media, advertising and then celebrities. Is that fair

:56:42.:56:45.

enough? That is the same for girls, isn't it? Sometimes we can fall foul

:56:46.:56:52.

thinking girls and boys are from different universes but they are

:56:53.:56:56.

really not. A lot of the things we have learned about how to support

:56:57.:57:00.

girls we need to translate to boys. When I'm working with school staff I

:57:01.:57:05.

am asking for them to look out for exercise obsession, very healthy

:57:06.:57:09.

eating in boys, things that might be in courage. In girls we might be

:57:10.:57:12.

seeing restricted eating. That kind of thing. Worse than girls it might

:57:13.:57:18.

become apparent because they might be, very thin, for a boy, it might

:57:19.:57:26.

seem a very healthy. We need to know it might look a bit different.

:57:27.:57:31.

Anybody, boy or girl, with a set of behaviours to do with food and

:57:32.:57:34.

exercise which they have to carry out every day, but the thought of

:57:35.:57:38.

not being able to do those makes them worry, and who value themselves

:57:39.:57:42.

very heavily based on how they look for their shape, their weight, their

:57:43.:57:46.

appearance, that is something we need to worry about. We need to have

:57:47.:57:50.

more Fassetts to our self-esteem than just that one thing of how we

:57:51.:57:52.

look. Thank you all. A quick message from Rich, who wants

:57:53.:58:06.

to talk about Adam Peaty. What a start, determination takes you far.

:58:07.:58:11.

What a family. A brilliant swim in an exciting final. But you can't

:58:12.:58:17.

beat the smile on his Nan's face. Fully deserved. Well done. Facebook

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live with Adam Deacon at 11 o'clock. Send your messages and your

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questions to add directly. Have a good day. The bye-bye.

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The weather is not looking too bad for most of us today. A bit fresher

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than it was yesterday. The winds strong in the north-east. Eventually

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fading as we go through the

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