10/08/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Already the most decorated Olympian in history, Michael Phelps now has

his 20 first medal. -- 21st. There's been more success for Team

GBs swimmers overnight, with silver medals for the men's

four by 200 freestyle relay team and for Siobhan-Marie O'Connor

in the 200m individual medley. It feels pretty unreal! I am trying

not to cry! But it is the best feeling in the world. When I looked

up and sat -- and saw the time and position, I was like, what?

We will have the latest on all of the Rio action.

And we will be talking to the wife of British rider William Fox Pitt

about his battle back from a horrendous fall

from his horse which put him in a coma for two weeks

Maureen Lound's son William was brutally murdered by a paranoid

schizophrenic with a long history of violence who was placed

in the community, despite telling doctors himself that he would be

better off remaining in a secure mental health unit.

In her first TV interview since the killer's conviction last

week, she will be talking to us about the care failures

And have you been sexually harassed at work?

Almost two-thirds of women aged 18 to 24 have been,

We'll be hearing what kind of things women have experienced and what must

Good morning, welcome to the programme.

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for all sorts of reasons - but if that is you,

if you're between 18 and 35 and you've got a degree,

are you thinking is it worth it right now?

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Record-breaker Michael Phelps won two more races in

It takes the American's tally of Olympic golds to 21.

It was also a great night for Team GB too.

It took until the early hours of the morning for any British

medals to be won on day five of the Games,

There were silvers for Siobhan-Marie O'Connor

in the women's 200-metre medley, and for the men in the

This is the difference between gold and silver.

Few expected Siobhan-Marie O'Connor to make it so close,

In her 200-metre individual medley final, she was up against

Hungarian Katinka Hosszu, known as the Iron Lady.

In the pool, the lady's not for catching.

Although O'Connor, just 20, almost managed it.

COMMENTATOR: Siobhan-Marie O'Connor is getting very close indeed.

The gold has just gone to Hosszu, but only just.

Hosszu can hardly have been pushed closer.

Silver can rarely have been so thoroughly earned.

But it is, oh, the best feeling in the world.

When I looked up and saw the time and position, I was like, what?

As so often at the Olympic Games, one medal inspires another.

Next, the 4x200 freestyle relay team.

By the final leg, they were chasing the Americans.

James Guy, on the right, was pipped for an individual freestyle medal.

He secured silver for his team behind the USA and the great Michael

That was Gold number 21 for Michael Phelps.

It was his second appearance of the evening.

The most decorated Olympian of all time said he would quit

after London, but in the 200 metre butterfly final he was back.

In the next lane to Chad Le Clos, the man who beat him

Into the final length and the stage was set for the Duel in the Pool,

but in an Olympic final, threats can come from anywhere.

Triumph fopr the greatest swimmer of all time.

The diving competition is held in another pool and it is not

Despite the unexplained green, it was safe for the divers.

Couch and Tolson tried to concentrate on style over tone,

And the canoe centre was full of confidence with David Florence,

after all, the world champion in the C1 category, however,

on turbulent waters, nothing can be taken for granted.

Fighting the torrents and the clock, one mistake prompted another.

Florence washed up in tenth, with all hopes of glory focused

In gymnastics, the waves are gentler, but the

America was so strong, they were to be enjoyed

Great Britain's hopes for a first Olympic women's team medal,

the first since 1928, ultimately fell away.

The beam is just ten centimetres wide and was

Britain finished fifth, but it was not a night

For most of the women's tennis, hope grows when Serena goes,

and Williams, Olympic champion, is out.

Shocked by Elina Svitolina, of Ukraine, who will be on a few

Not least Johanna Konta, who came down from Svetlana Kuznetsova to set

up a quarterfinal with the Wimbledon finalist Angelique Kerber.

And Konta is coming up with Jamie Murray for mixed doubles.

The Wimbledon champion Andy Murray is busy with the singles.

Fabio Fognini from Italy will play Andy Murray next.

Might Murray carry our sporting hopes for the second

In a few minutes, Sport will have more on Rio.

And as the the first of the rowing finals gets underway,

We'll be speaking to a former rower about what to expect.

Maxine Mawhinney is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

The cross-Channel Eurostar service is to be hit by seven

days of strike action, starting this coming weekend.

The action is being taken by train managers who belong to the RMT

Union, in a dispute over rosters and work-life balance.

But Eurostar says it will still be able to provide what it calls

a "good service" to customers, by making small changes

This weekend's stoppage by the RMT staff runs from Friday to Monday,

and there'll be a further 3 days of action over the Bank holiday

It's the third dispute to break out on the railways.

Southern Railway workers are on strike this week -

and the union has also announced there's been a vote

in favour of strike action on Virgin Trains East Coast.

NHS managers are considering closing an A department at night

United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust says it's

considering the measure at Grantham and District Hospital to help deal

A spokesman for the Trust said that failing to act "may

But the Royal College for Emergency Medicine says

the news is "disappointing, yet unsurprising".

We'll have more on this story in around half an hour's

time when we'll speak to our Health Editor, Hugh Pym.

Donald Trump has sparked fresh controversy by appearing to suggest

that gun owners could use violence to prevent Hillary Clinton

from taking away their right to bear arms.

He told a rally in North Carolina that if his Democratic rival forced

through constitutional change there was nothing anyone

could do about it - except perhaps gun owners.

A Democratic Senator said the remarks amounted

to an assassination threat - a claim denied by Mr

Our North America Correspondent David Willis reports.

Donald Trump has courted the support of America's gun owners,

but his latest comments in defence of their Second Amendment right

to bear arms have been interpreted by some as either a call

for an armed revolt or the assassination

Essentially abolish the Second Amendment.

By the way, and if she gets to pick...

If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is,

Astonishment at that statement wasn't confined to the man

Hillary Clinton's spokesman branded the remarks dangerous,

while Chris Murphy, whose district includes Newtown,

scene of one of the worst shootings in US history, said it amounted

to an assassination threat, seriously upping the possibility

The Trump campaign said they had been appealing to gun rights

campaigners to come and vote, but it eclipsed an embarrassing episode

for Hillary Clinton, after the father of the man

who killed 49 people in another mass shooting nearby was seen

in the audience at one of her rallies in Florida.

The Clinton campaign said Sadiq Mateen,

the man who opened fire in a nightclub, was not invited

Rather than seizing on that, Donald Trump has provided his

critics with more ammunition, just as his unconventional campaign

The TUC says employers should take urgent action after a survey found

that two out of three women under 25 said they'd been sexually

The majority of victims said they didn't tell their managers

because they were frightened it would harm their careers.

Theresa May has spoken to the Russian leader,

Vladimir Putin, for the first time since she became Prime Minister.

It's understood Mrs May agreed with Mr Putin of the need

to try to improve the strained relationship between

Downing Street said the PM told President Putin she hoped

they could communicate in "an open and honest way" in the future.

The UN is calling for an urgent humanitarian pause in fighting

in Aleppo, to deliver aid and repair damaged electricity

Rebel fighters and some jihadist militants have been battling

through government-held areas in the south of the city,

Syrian regime forces had surrounded the rebel-held east of the city,

cutting off routes for food and deliveries.

The UN says the supplies are urgently needed,

One of Britain's richest men, the Duke of Westminster,

The Duke was a close friend of Prince Charles,

who is said to be "deeply shocked and saddened".

He died at the Royal Preston Hospital in Lancashire

yesterday after falling ill on his Abbeystead Estate.

He owned large estates across the UK, including some

of the most expensive areas in Central London and a large part

A woman with a 100-year-old kidney she received from her mother

in the 1970s is thought to have the world's oldest

Sue Westhead received the organ in 1973, when her mother was 57.

Doctors usually estimate a transplant from a living donor

will last 20 years at most, but Sue's is still going strong.

I only expected my kidney to last about five years and here I am

My mother would have been 101 in November and it's really all down

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Back to Victoria. Thank you very much.

Let's get the latest on the Olympics.

John Watson is in the BBC Sport Centre for us.

Two more medals in the pool for Great Britain overnight, John.

I said it was a great night, it was -- and then all right, but it was a

great night if you compare what happened in 2012 for the British

swimmers, the Rio games have been really good.

Yes, if you went to bed last night thinking it was a shame we missed

out in the gymnastics and diving, it came good in the early hours in the

swimming pool, with two more silver medals. This is how we got them.

Siobhan-Marie O'Connor was going in the 200m individual medley and she

came through to take silver. She would have got Gold, three tenths of

a second away from taking the Gold. She set a new British record in the

process, incredible result from her as we got the first silver medal in

the pool last night. And we followed that in the men's relay, in the

4x200m freestyle. James Guy anchoring the British team home,

which was won by the United States. Especially impressive for him after

missing out on a Bronze medal so narrowly in the individual event. He

was clearly delighted to have finally got his hands on a medal at

these games. Hallelujah! I think the first few

days were a bit tough for me. I worked out I was going through an

adaptation phase and I changed it around and got faster and faster

each time and to get a medal finally. It has been a tough week,

but we got a medal now. The team here is just a great building team,

the youngest guy is 23. So by Tokyo, they will be fully grown men, ready

for that title. More success for Michael Phelps, 21

gold medals? Here is an absolute machine, coming out of retirement

having been pipped to the gold medal in London 2012 in the butterfly,

beaten by Chandler clock. He was determined not to be beaten again

and he put on an incredible performance or take the gold medal

in the 200 and is butterfly and he followed that with another gold

medal shortly after in the men's four by 200 m freestyle final. --

four by 200 metres freestyle final. His 20th and 21st gold medal.

Incredible performance. And he extends his lead with all of those

gold medals. Anyone close to him, he is the world's greatest Olympian,

adding to that once again. What a performance. And in the diving,

would you dive into Wood Green pool having changed from that lovely

blue-collar? -- into a greener pool. This is the diving pool, Tom Daley

and Dan Goodfellow won the bronze medal in this, and it is now green.

The British divers narrowly missing out on the bronze medal. But they

said they did not mind diving into that colour, they say it help them

see the surface of the water when executing their dives. She said she

has never seen anything like that but it seemingly did not put them

off last night. The organisers said it was OK, perhaps an investigation

should go into the chlorine content but officials said the water was

fine to dive into. Disappointment for the women's gymnastics team and

David Florence in the canoe slalom had a nightmare, finishing last. Not

what we expected? It was a disappointment, he was a world

champion and people that he would go very well. Almost certain other

metal but he finished in tenth place in the end so bitterly disappointing

Sony does have another go in another class and there is a chance of

getting a medal. That is look at the medal table. Two more silver medals,

Great Britain in 11th place at the moment. USA on top but more medal

chances to come later on with the time trial for the men and women's

cycling and we have the double trap at around one o'clock, more diving,

Jack Nowell and Chris Mears in action and some rowing medals up for

grabs as well. Anger is crossed we should be adding to that later on.

Thank you very much. -- fingers crossed. Chris Froome Going for Gold

and maybe, if he wins an Olympic gold medal, he will finally be

embraced by the British public because his three Tour de France

triumphs have not really lead to that love for him. That course is 54

kilometres, just around the coast, around this course with a number of

horrible hills twice. The men, anyway. 54 kilometres, including one

hill that lasts just over 2.1 kilometres. For Britain and the

woman, it is Emma Pooley in the time trials. Good luck to them! Do you

regret going to university? Research says one third of people who became

adults around the year 2000, if you were born in the naughties you have

not gone to university yet, that was my mistake! But quite a lot of

millennial 's say they wish they had not bothered because of the debt

they have to pay back. We will talk to people who recently graduated and

we want your own experience, money well spent? Have you achieved Cisco

-- success without a degree? Get in touch the usual ways.

Murdered because he was gay by a paranoid schizophrenic

who should never have been placed in the community.

William Lound who was 30 and studying at Salford University

was killed by Lee Arnold earlier this year in what was

described by a judge as 'transphobic and homophobic murder'.

Arnold has just been sentenced to 23 years in jail for the killing.

In a moment we'll speak to William Lound's mother who,

remarkably doesn't blame Arnold but blames the system that

released him from hospital despite him saying he couldn't cope.

First, here are the details of the case - some of

Lee Arnold had 19 previous convictions before he

He had a history of stabbing and killing cats and dogs.

In prison, he took a fellow inmate hostage at knife-point.

Arnold had spent much of his adult life in and out of mental health

units in prisons and had been diagnosed with

When he was last released from hospital he told doctors he was too

In February, he strangled and stabbed student William Lound

at his halls of residence in Salford in what the judge called

Adding it was brutal, premeditated and sustained.

The court heard that William was gay and sometimes cross-dressed.

Arnold had referred to him as a weirdo and a freak.

William had asked Arnold, why are you doing this, why me?

Arnold wrote on his bedroom wall after the killing,

In June, William's sister Virginia was found dead at the corner shop

Her family believe she ended her life because of William's murder.

Let's talk now to William and Virginia's mother, Maureen Lound.

Good morning. Thank you for talking to us. What you have experienced is

absolutely unimaginable. How are you getting through each day? I'm very

fortunate with the fact that I am a committed Christian and that helps

me very much because I don't really know how anybody could cope with

this on their own. Such horrendous events. You do not think they will

happen to you, there will happen to somebody else. Unfortunately, it did

happen to me. What did you learn about the mental state of Lee Arnold

during his court case? I discovered he had been in and out of mental

institutions and prison since he was a teenager. And he went to a school

for children with emotional and behavioural difficulties, it was a

boarding school, he was adopted as a three-year-old, having been abused

as a very young child. So he did not really have much of a chance in

life. Compared with the start of my children hand in life. He was

released from hospital around 2014, even though, as you learned in the

court case, he said to doctors he was much too institutionalised to

leave. What did you take that to mean? That he was too ill. He was

not really well at all. They released him. But I think the

release was down to money, in actual fact, because it costs a lot of

money to maintain people. Or to supervise them in the community? To

maintain them in hospital, in Ashworth, it must cost a fortune.

With the amount of security at treatment that they are given. The

thing they do is release them back into the community, if possible, but

I think sometimes that money drives them more than it should. I'm

guessing you do not believe that a hospital would release somebody who

they believe to be dangerous? Well, you do wonder whether they allowed

the financial aspect to override other considerations. Remarkably,

you do not blame Lee Arnold from what happened to your family? No, I

do not. I blame the system that allowed it to happen because of the

system had been a bit more generously supported, it may not

have happened. Because what annoyed me, when they released him, into the

first stage treatment in a hostel, to a hospital in Manchester which

was less secure than Ashworth, and then into the hostel, but when his

behaviour was too violent for the hostel, instead of thinking, maybe

he is not all right, maybe we will take him back into some sort of

custodial care, they did not. They put him the street. Which, to my

mind, is mind-boggling. That they could even think of that. And then,

of course, I believe he went to hospital and he said, he was going,

he was hearing voices and he was going to kill somebody. The hospital

patted him on the head and said, you will be OK and go away. After that,

he beat up some poor bloke with a house brick and this man did not

report it until after Lee Arnold had been arrested. And when he had been

arrested, he told them about what he had done. They find him down

alleyways starving cats and dogs with a knife. He was actually on

bail for some sort of violent crime, threatening somebody with a knife or

something, and the police lost him in the system somehow. They are

doing an investigation into it, Greater Manchester Police, but...

That does not solve the problem. How did they lose him? A dangerous

schizophrenic with a history of violence, they put him out onto the

street and the body was checking on him. He was not medicated, which

made him extremely dangerous. Why did it happen? It should not have

happened. Because the system failed. And the failure of the system cost

my son his life and as a consequence of that, my daughter. Are you clear

in your head that your daughter took her own life because she could not

cope with the fact that her brother had been taken from you? Yes. Can I

tell you the story about the cow? Apparently, in the dairy industry,

whether cow drops its calve, they leave it with the for 24 hours and

then they take it away to be hand reared. Usually, happens is the cow

will cry pitifully for 24 hours and then just forgets that it ever had a

calve and it goes back to normal. But occasionally one of them just

lies down and ties and there is nothing they can do. No matter what

interventions they make, it will die. He formally -- the farmer will

normally put it out of its misery, that is what happened with Virginia,

she could not cope, her father died in 2009 and then her brother, I

think she could not handle it. Did you know she was... Did she say she

was struggling? Nobody knew anything. She seemed very happy, all

you see she was very upset when it first happened. At the funeral and

whatnot. You thought she was coping? Everybody that she was coping.

Nobody knew, because some of the people offered to help, a friend of

mine was a psychiatric nurse. Another man who was a customer in

the shop was a listener at the jail, listening to people who were

thinking of committing suicide. And he had spoken to her the day before

and she never said anything to anybody. Can I ask you, what do you

want to happen or change to try to make sure what has happened to your

family does not happen to anybody else? When people with serious

psychiatric conditions, especially if they are violent, are released

from an institution, that they are much more carefully monitored. And

that there is, I believe there is some sort of withdrawal, whereby if

they do misbehave, they don't take their drugs and they misbehave in

the environment they are in, then they are immediately taken back into

some sort of custodial care. So that, if they present a danger...

There is a minority of people who will always present a danger because

of their psychiatric condition. There was nothing we can do about

that but we have to make sure they are safe and everybody else is safe

because we do not know how many other Lee Arnolds are walking the

streets of every town and city in the country. You just do not know

who they are. Thank you very much for coming to the programme. Thank

you. The Department of Health has

sent us a statement, saying: We have increased mental

health funding to ?11.7 billion and more funding

is coming on stream. We have already made ?400 million

available for crisis resolution and home treatment teams

which will help prevent people being admitted as inpatients

when they can be better cared Still to come: Drunkorexia -

heard of it? The phrase describes people who skip

food to save on calories so they can Research suggests almost half

of young people may have done it and I will be

speaking to some of them. And with the Premier League kicking

off this weekend, we'll talk to two of Leicester City's biggest

supporters about their hopes Here's Maxine Mahwinney

the BBC Newsroom, with Team GB have won two more

silver medals in the pool In the early hours of this morning,

Siobhan-Marie O'Connor took silver The 20 year old finished just three

tenths of a second behind Hungarian world champion Katinka Hosszu,

who herself set an Olympic record. Minutes later, Team GB

collected its second Stephen Milne, Duncan Scott,

Dan Wallace and James Guy took the medal in the 4-by-200

metre freestyle relay. They were beaten by the US team,

which included Michael Phelps - who won his second gold medal

of the night. He's now won 21 golds

in four separate Games. Eurostar workers are due to take

strike action this month, including Eurostar says it will provide a good

service by making small changes. The stoppage by RMT staff runs from

Friday to Monday with a further three days of action over the bank

holiday weekend from Auger test -- August the 22nd.

It is a dispute over rosters and work-life balance. Our members have

got long-standing problems over work-life balance and how they have

got very unsociable rostering patterns. It is not a new issue,

they have been trying to resolve it for a considerable period of time

now and they just got frustrated at the lack of response and progress

from their employer. We balloted for action and got in the large majority

in favour of industrial action and we informed the employee a week or

so ago the action is going to take place. Unfortunately, we have not

had much discussion to see if we can get resolution. We are desperate to

get resolution but if we can't, then the action goes ahead.

The RMT Union has said it's prepared to suspend a five-day strike

by Southern Rail staff tomorrow and on Friday, if the company

agrees to urgent talks without pre-conditions.

Rail passengers have been suffering severe disruption

because of the strike over the role of conductors.

Southern says it's not prepared to talk to the union,

unless it is willing to discuss its reform plans.

Hospital managers are considering shutting an Accident and Emergency

department at night, because of a severe

United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust has said it may cut

opening hours at Grantham and District Hospital in order

The Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has lots to

clarify controversial remarks which is Democrat opponents say amount to

an incitement of violence against Hillary Clinton. He appeared to

suggest gun owners could use violence to prevent Mrs Clinton from

plans to take away their rights to bear arms. His campaign team said he

was just encouraging gun advocates to vote.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Thank you very much. This message on Twitter, an amazing woman, Maureen,

raising vital issues -- permit such heartbreak.

Thank you. If you are in bed last night, thinking, we have missed out

on medals in the women's gymnastics and diving, it came good in the

swimming pool in the early hours, Siobhan-Marie O'Connor winning

silver in the women's race, setting a British record. Still with ongoing

health problems and she missed out on the Gold medal by three tenths of

a second, winning a silver. And the success did not end there, the men's

for by -- freestyle team also won a silver medal, Stephen Milne, Duncan

Scott, Dan Wallace and James Guy anchored the team home on the final

leg finishing just behind the USA. Especially sweet for James Guy as he

narrowly missed out on a Bronze in the individual event earlier in the

Games. Another astonishing night for this guy, Michael Phelps, the

world's greatest Olympian, winning his 21st medal of his career.

Anchoring the last leg home in that relay. Taking Gold before that in

the men's 200 metres butterfly. Incredible Olympian, the world's

best. That is a wrap-up of the Olympics stories. We will look ahead

to the big events also later. Thank you very much.

We will discuss new research later suggesting two thirds of women had

been sexually harassed at work. If that has happened to you, tell us

what happened and what impact it had and whether you could do anything

about it and whether you could say anything to your boss or it was The

Boss doing the harassing. Interesting to hear your

experiences. I would like to get you on the programme to talk to you

after ten o'clock so do get in touch.

As far as sporting comebacks go, there are none quite as remarkable

as that of Team GB's horse rider William Fox-Pitt.

Just nine months ago, he was in an induced coma for two

weeks after falling off his horse in France.

He suffered severe head trauma in the fall and was partially blind

Now, the two-time silver medalist is in Rio taking part

Even competing is an incredible achievement for the 47 year old but,

sadly, Team GB haven't won a medal at these Games,

after four successive Olympics finishing on the podium.

Last week, William Fox Pitt said he was just happy to be at the Games.

Other people thought, oh, God, no, I can't do Rio, surely?

And certainly, my family have put up with an awful lot and really

supported me to get me back being here.

I'm back on form and I've got a good horse.

I've had so much help getting me back.

I've had more help than you could imagine.

We will talk to his wife in a moment. Just having some technical

problems so we will keep trying. If you has watched some of the venues,

you may have noticed a lot of empty seats. We have been trying to find

out why. All of these spectators will have

taken at least two bus or train journeys, walked for a mile and now

they are in a huge queue just to get into the park before they can even

see any sport. The problem is that many of these sports, Rugby sevens

and hockey, not played in Brazil so there is little enthusiasm. And even

now at the business and of the tournament, at the semifinal and

final stages, the standard of play being really high, the stadiums are

almost completely empty. We have not sold 84% of available

tickets so far. So as Brazilians, we are late buyers so you can see a lot

now of momentum on our website. They are given to corporate sponsors

or the people who do not show up. And I think that is a problem at

every Olympics. They can't figure out the might be sold but the people

and there. So who are the ones to watch

during today's Games? Sally Nugent has the rundown

of the highlights. The first of the borrowing medals

will be decided later with Team GB's men competing in the quadruple

sculls at Rio's Lagoa Stadium. The cyclists are back in action with the

women and men's individual time trial. After missing out in the Road

Race, Chris Froome is going for Gold again, aiming to better his Bronze

at London 2012. And Emma Pooley is also hoping for a podium finish.

Commonwealth champions Jack Law and Chris Mears are diving in the men's

three metres synchronised. Team GB gymnasts narrowly missed out on

Bronze in the men's team final but Max Whitlock is aiming to win

Britain's first gymnastics title in the individual title tonight. He is

up against team-mate Nile Wilson for a medal. And the shooting continues

today with World Champion medallists Tim Neale and Steve Scott competing

in the men's double trap. The best coverage on the BBC, go to

the BBC website, BBC sport especially, and there is everything

you need to know about every single event so do get more information.

Let's try and talk to the wife of William Fox Pitt. She has just gone!

We will keep trying. It's been revealed that nearly

two-thirds of women aged 18 to 24 have experienced sexual harassment

in the workplace. Do tell us your own experiences, we

would like to hear after ten o'clock and we will have people in the

studio who will give their experiences. Get in touch in the

usual way. Let's try and talk to all is one more time. How are you? No.

That is not going to work. Really sorry. Hello! You can hear me!

Hello! No, it keeps freezing. I apologise, for a second time. I may

have to apologise for a third time, but I will be doing it!

In 2015, 31% of 18-year-olds in England were accepted

into a university place - the highest level ever recorded.

However, one third of millennials - people reaching young adulthood

in the year 2000 - that went to University now regret

doing so because of the debt they have been saddled with.

Research out today suggests that 49% of 18 to 35-year-olds believe

they could have got to where they are now without going to uni.

A leading debt charity yesterday said this year's graduates

will owe at least ?41,000 by the time they start paying

Yet add to that today's National Student Survey,

which points to 86% of respondents saying they were satisfied overall

Lets talk now to Ubaka Allanah, who regrets studying for a degree

Carl Reader, who left school at 16 and now runs

Len Shackleton, former Dean of the Business School

at Westminster University and now Professor of Economics

In Liverpool, we have Ellis Palmer, who graduated in July

From Leeds, Claire Young, a former Apprentice candidate

Alice, congratulations on your degree. Thank you very much. In

terms of the debt, how do you rationalise it? How'd you

rationalise it? I think a lot of people say, we need the degree to go

out and get a job. For a lot of people, that is the case, they can

get a job with their degree. For some people, it might be better to

do so in a six-year degree and work at the same time. My degree is four

years, I have spent two years living in Birmingham. A year in Barcelona

and this year, I have been between Liverpool and Birmingham and London,

working and studying. That is the best way for a what people to pay

off their student debt as they do it. It is just incredibly expensive

and you cannot rationalise it. Unless you say there is a graduate

premium. Which I think exists for young people these days. Does it

weigh on new order you think, I would just get a job and when I

start earning ?21,000, and will pay back a bit each month? That is the

way it goes. It is not immediate. You start paying back when you start

earning ?21,000. The repayment is something like ?6 per week and is

quite small. But part of that is the problem because it gets dragged on

and on. There is no easy way to say, I want to pay off my student loan.

If you pay off your student loan in one go -- in one go when you get

money, you get fined by the government to pay off that loan. But

after 30 years, if you have not paid it back, it gets written off. Yes,

or often, if you are outside the UK longer than five years, certainly

outside of the European Union, you do not have to pay it back if you

spent five years working in another country. Let me bring in Ubaka. Do

you really regret getting a degree? I do enjoy my time at university but

I felt that I could have, I did software engineering, I felt I would

have learned faster with hands-on experience. You know that now?

Because people I know that did not go to university and a software

engineers and they are ahead, more than most people who went to

university. I think that it can slow you down. Obviously, you have as

well how much? Over ?18,000. I pay back ?21 per month. Your

salary is about ?26,000? Is it OK to pay back ?5 every week? You have to

do it. It is something I would rather not do. But you did get the

loan. Len Shackleton, you're a professor at the University of

Buckingham. What does that make you feel like, hearing people regret

going to university? I think on average people do better when they

go to university. I think there was a problem, there is a tale of people

who will not get any significant benefit from university and

universities could be more honest about this. They tend to Hayes this.

In what we? They should say that it depends very much on what kind of

degree you are doing, how much effort you put into it, the quality

of the degree. It is not a magic ticket to a well-paid career. That

is something which needs to be reinforced. We can speak to Claire

Young. What do you think about so many millennials, who became adults

in 2000, regretting going to university? As somebody who went to

university, I have a science degree from Bristol, I thoroughly enjoyed

it and it would never have got my first job that that degree, it was a

requirement to even download the application. I find it frustrating

and I work in schools with young people now and I think it is so

important that careers advice is available and they get enough about

all options, university, apprenticeships, joining the career

ladder straightaway. That magic ticket may have existed when I

graduated in 2001, if you had a good degree, you got a good job. But that

magic ticket, that job guarantee does not exist any more so if you

are choosing to go to university, you have to think about the cost of

it, if it is right for you and if you will benefit. We can bring in

Sorana Vieru. Vice President of higher education at the National

Union of Students. Hello. Do you think people who apply really do

think hard enough about the type of degree, as Len Shackleton said, that

they will have to work hard, some degrees are better than others?

There are many complex factors going into the decision-making before

going to university and getting a well-paid job is only one of those.

People go to university because they want to experience student life and

make friends and their like a particular university or subject. Or

simply they want to get away from home, that is a reality. The choices

for applicants are getting more nuanced as the price rises. And as

it rises, undergraduates know they will come out with debt and that

does not stop it having an impact on them? Particularly their mental

health whenever they graduate? And also higher education is like

electricity, if the electricity company will trouble prices, you are

not going to turn the lights on, higher education can open so many

opportunities, you cannot turn your back on it. Tell us about your

experience. I left school at 16, in 1987 was unheard of. I fell into a

youth training scheme, as a hairdresser, it did not go well but

I really wanted to actually burn on the job and learn how to do it

rather than going to university for something that was not really suited

to me. -- 1997. Because I am not very academic by nature. And it has

turned out OK, everybody has their own journey, but I have no regrets.

Now, I am advising a lot of businesses how to run, I run a

successful accountancy firm and coaching from. You have to have

qualifications for accountancy so you did have further training and

education? On-the-job training, starting at the bare-bones, but

working through that I could earn a wage whilst learning the trade.

Listen to some of these e-mails and texts from people. Adam, I spent

over ?20,000 over nine years to complete a PHD. I can't get an

interview for love nor money and I am still doing the same job I was

doing before I started. Lauren is currently studying geography at

Derby University and my modules require me to be at university for

11 hours every week. And I am paying ?9,000 a year. I don't regret going

to university, I think we're being taken advantage of on a mass scale.

My education in total will amass a debt of ?38,000 and that is like the

added interest. I cannot comprehend why they would require so much in

tuition fees. Len Shackleton? There is a real case there. Our

universities are very badly organised, we work very largely on a

three term year. Large chunks of the year are on holiday and so forth and

my own university at Buckingham is different, there is a non-2-year

degree, there are four terms every year. I am seeing students today and

this is August. Universities should be more concerned with the whole

package they give to students and the opportunities they give to

students to progress quickly and cheaply. At the moment, a lot of the

money universities get his cross subsidising research of doubtful

merit in many cases and students are not really getting value for what

they pay for. Kevin says university is not for all, it seems to be a

mantra for union -- for politicians to say that you will only earn more

money if you have a degree. Simon says he can see why many millennials

Mike regret this, Laura on Facebook graduated in 2010 and she could turn

back time, she would. One of my other siblings did not go to

university and they have climbed the career ladder quicker than myself

and both bought their first house three years ago. I am always playing

catch-up and lagging behind because I want to university. I earn less

and struggle more to get a mortgage because the student loan counts

against you on your credit rating. It took a long time for me to get a

job in my chosen field and even then I degree is not necessary. I feel

like I have wasted three years of my life, I studied hard, I held down a

job and committed 40 miles every day to go to university. The only thing

I feel I got out of it was friends. Ellis, can you relate? Oftentimes it

is about having a diversity of rates available to get that magic ticket

and a lot of people seem to think university is the one rich to

getting the magic ticket and I don't think it is, more opportunities need

to be given to young people to go out there and study whilst holding

down work opportunities. One of the things I find quite useful was I was

studying 16 hours every week for 18 weeks every semester of the classes

were either morning or afternoon rest in the UK the classes are

spread out and there is no general sense, no sense that you can plan

your life and hold down a job whilst studying because the hours are often

very irregular or at least they wear at my university. Clare, what is

your advice to people who might looked edgy as a successful

businesswoman, you got that degree, you say you would not have got your

first job without it. What is your advice to people considering whether

to go to university? I work with a lot of your 11 and sixth form

students and I say that success comes from choice, but your options,

be proactive, get careers advice and is still lots of snobbery about

career options outside university and some schools, if you mention

apprenticeship, there is and gasps. Why do people act shocked? A long

time ago, when polytechnics moved to universities and became more

accessible for people who many did not particularly like academia, they

could all of a sudden having -- have the status of going to university

and there seems to be this split between smart, aspirational people

who went to university and others who are probably not good enough who

did other things whereas that is completely wrong. Different courses

for different horses, people are very practical and vocationally

lead, I cannot fix but I am good at studying reading. It is important

for young people to get good, objective careers advice and know

the facts and figures before they sign up. Know what you're getting

for your course and the fees and make a decision. Is it worth it?

Most importantly, are you going to enjoy it? Thank you, all of you, for

coming onto the programme. A hospital in Lincolnshire might

shut an accident and emergency department at night in order to cope

with a staffing crisis. United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS

Trust said it is considering slashing opening hours at Grantham

and District Hospital due Let's talk to our health

editor, Hugh Pym. Hello. This seems quite dramatic?

The trust has made clear that there is a serious problem in

Lincolnshire, a shortage of doctors, there are not enough in terms of

permanent staff, senior and junior doctors and they cannot get enough

people coming into the temporary placements. And I think the cost of

agency bills is probably a factor. They have three sites at Boston,

Lincoln and Grantham and they will keep Lincoln and Boston 24 hours

with A but they are seriously considering closing Grantham

overnight. And this is indicative of a wider problem and not enough

doctors can cope with patient demand. The government says it is

seeing recruitment of more doctors coming through in years to come. Why

is there any issue with recruitment of doctors in this country? It is

more of that patient demand has outstripped supply and it is that

mismatch between what was planned five years ago and what the NHS

needs right now. We had a hospital in Lancashire trolley which said it

would have to close A in April because of staff problems, with

doctors, so that raised the issue. It has to be said that the

regulator, it says it is going to work very closely with these

hospitals to deal with what it calls a temporary problem but I think

there is a wider issue with A working flat out across the country

although many are working 24 hours, seven days a week and doing a very

good job. If they go ahead, what will it mean for the patients? The

trust says it will be better for patients because it is realistic,

they will go to the two A rather than three of them but that means a

longer journey if you are in Grantham. In an emergency you will

be got to A quickly and there must be questions over whether that can

be delivered but certainly they are doing all they can to ensure patient

safety continues. Thank you very much.

Research suggests that two thirds of women have been sexually abused at

work. Hasn't happened to you? Please get in contact. -- has it.

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Let's get the latest weather update with Tomasz.

Thank you. It was rather fresh this morning. Really chilly across parts

of the country and we have had clear skies for a couple of nights. A

perfect opportunity to capture some shooting stars, not literally, but

this is the Perseid meteor shower, the pig is coming up in the next

couple of days, it has lasted for a few days. Fortunately, we are going

to lose some of those clear skies tonight. Some areas will have clear

weather but for the next couple of nights it will be pretty overcast

and today we have some rain on the way across north-western areas. The

general message for the rest of this morning and the afternoon is for the

Skystrater and cloudier and cloudy across western areas until we get

some rain across West Wales, Randy Irish Sea and the north-west but the

southern and eastern areas are hanging onto the sunshine, and it

looks like it shall stay dry across East Anglia and the south-east for

most the day whilst we get the rain piling into Scotland. May well be a

story across western Scotland in the coming days as I was sure you.

Tonight, clear skies are gone, it is overcast, muggy, moist air coming

our way so grey skies all over the place. 14 degrees of outbreaks of

rain and tomorrow, we have the weather fronts in the North and

clipping eastern Britain but high pressure just about affecting the

south-western corner, Devon West and throughout Wales but notice many

eastern and northern areas hanging on to the cloud. I suspect that

further north, the clouds will break up a little bit in the afternoon. 23

in London, 16 in Scotland. I mention that rain across western Scotland,

there could be quite a lot of it, I slipped areas could see 100

millimetres in some of the Western Highlands and in the North West of

Scotland. Lots of rain fall for this time of year and that rain keeps

coming and coming on that south-westerly wind and in London,

temperatures getting up to around 25. Back to you.

Hello, it's 10am, this is Victoria Derbyshire

Have you been sexually harassed at work?

Almost two-thirds of women aged 18 to 24 have been,

We'll be hearing what women have experienced and what must

Choppy waters in the lagoon for the Olympic rowers -

One British Olympian has said the conditions at Rio are amongst

So as the Olympic rowing finals kick off later today,

I'll be speaking to Katherine Grainger's former rowing partner.

And the people who skip food to save on calories so they can

New research suggests almost half of young people may have done it

and I will be speaking to some of them.

Here's Maxine in the BBC Newsroom, with a summary of today's news.

The cross-Channel Eurostar service is to be hit by seven

days of strike action, starting this coming weekend.

But Eurostar says it will still be able to provide what it calls

The stoppage by the RMT staff runs from Friday to Monday,

and there'll be a further three days of action over the Bank holiday

The RMT dispute centres over rosters and work-life balance.

Our members have got long-standing problems over work-life balance

and how they have got very unsociable rostering patterns.

It's not a new issue, they have been trying to resolve it

for a considerable period of time now and they just got frustrated

at the lack of response and progress from their employer.

We balloted for action and got a large majority in favour

of industrial action and we informed the employer a week

or so ago that the action is going to take place.

Unfortunately, we haven't had much discussion to see

We are desperate to get resolution but, if we can't,

There has been an offer to suspend the five-day strike by Southern

Rail. Rail passengers have been

suffering severe disruption because of the strike over

the role of conductors. Southern says it's not prepared

to talk to the union, unless it is willing

to discuss its reform plans. NHS managers are considering closing

an A E department at night United Lincolnshire Hospitals

NHS Trust says it's considering the measure at Grantham

and District Hospital to help deal A spokesman for the Trust said that

failing to act "may But the Royal College

for Emergency Medicine says the news is "disappointing,

yet unsurprising". The TUC says employers should take

urgent action. A survey found that two out of three

women under 25 said they'd been The majority of victims said

they didn't tell their managers because they were frightened it

would harm their careers. Theresa May has spoken

to the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, for the first time

since she became Prime Minister. It's understood Mrs May agreed

with Mr Putin of the need to try to improve the strained

relationship between Downing Street said the PM told

President Putin she hoped they could communicate in "an open

and honest way" in the future. The UN is calling for an urgent

humanitarian pause in the fighting It says the city has been

without water for four days, a "catastrophic situation"

for children and families, Rebel fighters and some jihadist

militants have been battling through government-held areas

in the south of the city, Syrian regime forces had surrounded

the rebel-held east of the city, cutting off routes for

food and deliveries. The UN says the supplies

are urgently needed, One of Britain's richest men,

the Duke of Westminster, The Duke was a close

friend of Prince Charles, who is said to be "deeply

shocked and saddened". He died at the Royal Preston

Hospital in Lancashire yesterday, after falling ill on his

Abbeystead Estate. He owned large estates

across the UK, including some areas in Central London and a large

part of Liverpool city centre. A woman with a 100-year-old kidney

she received from her mother in the 1970s is thought

to have the world's oldest Sue Westhead received the organ

in 1973, when her mother was 57. Doctors usually estimate

a transplant from a living donor will last 20 years at most,

but Sue's is still going strong. I only expected my kidney

to last about five years My mother would have been 101

in November and it's really That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. You're always welcome

to get in touch with us. Megan on Twitter says Micro

University did well for the older generations but mine is graduating

with debt and disappointment. This is from Mori, I went to a Scottish

university and graduated with a first in international hospitality

management in 2013. I did not need a group -- degree to get me where I am

but I do not regret it because the Scottish government paid for it and

I paid off my last student debt last year. If I was an English student, I

would not have gone to university, I would not have been able to justify

the cost. Here's some sport now

with John Watson. Let's look back on Day Four in Rio

is Team GB added two more medals to their tally, both in the pool. We

have already won more medals at this stage than in London four years ago.

Siobhan-Marie O'Connor taking silver in the women's individual medley.

And a silver medal in the men's freestyle relay. With a rundown of

the action, this is Patrick Geary. This is the difference

between gold and silver. Few expected Siobhan-Marie O'Connor

to make it so close, In her 200-metre individual medley

final, she was up against Hungarian Katinka Hosszu,

known as the Iron Lady. In the pool, the lady's

not for catching. Although O'Connor, just

20, almost managed it. COMMENTATOR: Siobhan-Marie O'Connor

is getting very close indeed. The gold has just gone

to Hosszu, but only just. Hosszu can hardly have

been pushed closer. Silver can rarely have been

so thoroughly earned. But it's, oh, the best

feeling in the world. When I looked up and saw the time

and position, I was like, what? As so often at the Olympic Games,

one medal inspires another. Next, the 4x200

freestyle relay team. By the final leg, they were

chasing the Americans. James Guy, on the right, was pipped

to an individual freestyle medal. But now he secured silver

for his team behind the USA That was gold number

21 for Michael Phelps. It was his second appearance

of the evening. The most decorated Olympian

of all time said he would quit after London, but in the 200-metre

butterfly final, he was back. In the next lane to Chad Le Clos,

the man who beat him Into the final length and the stage

was set for the Duel in the Pool, but in an Olympic final,

threats can come from anywhere. Oh, my goodness, it's

so close, Phelps has won! Triumph for the greatest

swimmer of all time. The diving competition is held

in another pool and it is not Despite the unexplained green tint,

it was safe for the divers. Couch and Tolson tried

to concentrate on style over tone, And the canoe centre was full

of confidence with David Florence, who is, after all,

the world champion in who is, after all, the world

champion in the C1 category. However,

on turbulent waters, Fighting the torrents and the clock,

one mistake prompted another. Florence washed up in tenth,

with all hopes of glory focused In gymnastics hall, the waves

are gentler, but the America was so strong,

they were to be enjoyed Great Britain's hopes for a first

Olympic women's team medal, the first since 1928,

ultimately fell away. The beam is just ten

centimetres wide and was Britain finished fifth,

but it was not a night For most of the women's tennis,

hope grows when Serena goes, and Williams, Olympic

champion, is out. Shocked by Elina Svitolina,

of Ukraine, who will be on a few Not least Johanna Konta, who came

down from Svetlana Kuznetsova to set up a quarterfinal with the Wimbledon

finalist Angelique Kerber. And Konta is paired with Jamie,

not Andy, Murray for mixed doubles. The Wimbledon champion Andy Murray

is busy with the Singles. Fabio Fognini, from Italy,

will play Andy Murray next. Might Murray carry our sporting

hopes for the second Let's reflect on the British success

in the pool. Olympic swimming coach Sean Kellie, who has coached the

country's top swimmers, joins me. London 2012, Team GB did not do

especially well, three medals, no Gold medals. But we have one Gold

medal and three swimmers, significant improvement, what has

changed? The reality is the swimmers are swimming quicker than they did

at the trials. At the GB trials in 2012, the swimmers did not move it

on when it got to London. And in Rio, they have stepped up their

performances and done best times and that is all you need to do at the

Olympics. Is the pressure off? It is an Olympics but the spotlights in

the London must be different to competing in Brazil. There has been

an effort by the management of the team to take the pressure away from

the swimmers and play down the trials, played under preparation.

Keep the water is nice and calm in the lead-up to the Games. And this

is the result. Let's talk about Siobhan-Marie O'Connor and her

success. Made even more notable because she has some ongoing health

problems, which probably affect her training. So to win a silver medal,

narrowly missing out on Gold, is impressive. Amazing and the way she

came back on the freestyle shows how she has moved on have training this

season. She has had a consistent season. A little less illness

playing a part in her preparation and she is consistently able to work

hard and prepare for Rio. And the men's relay team anchored home by

James Guy who missed out on a Bronze in the individual. He will be

delighted. The way he came past the Japanese guy and the Australian, and

it is always nice to go past an Australian! He will be delighted and

he deserves that, he is a great guy. And you have to talk about Michael

Phelps, the world's greatest Olympian, winning his 20th and 21st

Gold medals over a remarkable career. Incredible. It was not that

quick a time last night and it would have been beaten by Chad Le Clos if

he got his best time. But Michael Phelps said to be others, you have

to go past me, and they did not. He did not look tired in the relay,

anchoring the US to the Gold medal after already getting Gold in the

butterfly. I think he had one eye on James Guy and was relieved to

finish. And James was closing on him. Any longer and we would have

pipped him. Thank you. Fingers crossed for mum medal success on Day

Five. A chance of medals in the men's and women's Road Race at

around lunchtime, borrowing. And a time trial in the Road Race, it was

last weekend. And the man -- and the men's gymnastics, so plenty to look

forward to. Good morning.

New research published today shows that nearly two-thirds of women aged

18-24 have experienced sexual harassment at work.

The study - a joint project between the Trades Union Congress

and The Everyday Sexism project- was carried out by YouGov,

and its findings were based on responses from 1,533 women,

Let's talk to Frances O'Grady, who is General Secretary of the TUC.

And Laura Bates, who founded the Everyday Sexism Project,

which invites women to share their own stories of sexist

In Somerset, we also have Annie Ridout, Editor of online

Before setting up her own business, she was the victim of sexual

was working at an art gallery and river going to go to the pub and two

The Mail trustees I was creating a guide with, one was a photographer,

and he suggests that maybe my face should appear on the back of his

brochure, which didn't think was necessary, I told them that and they

ignored the land of the photographer said he was happy to take the photo

and the other trustees suggested it perhaps could be a glamour shoot.

Meaning what? Meaning that I could pose topless. Oh my gosh! How did

that make you feel? It made me feel very embarrassed. And because they

started laughing, I felt like they behave is taking it more seriously

than I should add it was just a joke, a bit of banter. But they have

this power over me because of authority figures in the sense that

they have control over weather or not I kept my job, to some extent. I

felt very small and disempowered and too young and not confident enough

to say anything. It is a part of me that thinks, you don't want them to

think you cannot take a joke? Definitely. There always is with

these sexist jokes. And I think this is part of the issue and Laura Bates

has been talking about this today. There is a great area and it is hard

work out where that is but I think if a comment is made that is

sexually inappropriate to a woman in the workplace and she feels

uncomfortable, it is inappropriate and harassment. Did you know it was

harassment back then or is it just looking back? I would not describe

it as harassment, I probably told people what happened. If it ever

came up. It is not something that has damaged my career my life but it

was something that was inappropriate and at the time I did not stand up

to them because they did not feel confident enough to. That is why it

is important, this report has come out and people like me come forward

and say this is happening and is not acceptable because younger women out

there are going through the same thing and it should be happening.

Let me bring in Laura and Francis, Annie says it is important people

like her speak out. One viewer says, it is anonymous, she doesn't want to

give her name, and that shows you, with regards to sexual harassment at

work, inappropriate comments are made about me at least once a week

and have been for the last six years, usually directly to me. I

have been propositioned by married clouds at conferences offering to

charge whatever I want at the bar back to his room number and meet him

at his room in 30 minutes. I have raised numerous complaints with the

HR department for the worst ones that have been told to keep quiet

because it will affect the business. Unfortunately, that is not

surprising, that will sound shocking to many viewers but these are the

kind of stories we hear about on such a regular basis. In fact, we

know from the results of the study coming out today that the woman who

did reported, and they are in a minority, of those who did, three

quarters said that nothing changed and a further 16% said they were

treated worse as a result. There is a massive problem with this not

being dealt with by employers, even when women say what is happening and

understandably, many women, particularly those on zero hours or

fixed term contracts, are terrified. What have people don't believe me or

I'll lose my job. Are you shocked? Two thirds of getting dashed

25-year-old woman harassed at work. We should all be shocked and Laura

correctly points out that women on an insecure contract are further

down the pecking order at work and they are more worried about speaking

out and this point about feeling that you will not be taken

seriously. And with good reason, in many instances. That is why I think

one of the solutions has to be about tackling that power imbalance at

work and one of the best ways of doing that in a practical way is to

join a union because you will get the back-up and support of the union

in taking a case. An e-mail says, I was sexually harassed in my first

job by my boss who thought he was entitled to chat to -- to touch up

his young female star. Also in my last job, crude sexual jobs,

offering to pay for an abortion when I told my boss I was pregnant. This

is normal working life in the UK, I am a normal, 45-year-old woman and

this is endemic in society. This is without having being -- having to be

paid less than male colleagues and putting up with workplace banter,

which is just a pile of sexist clap. City 3% of young women, we have

received about 20,000 testimonies over the past four years and it is

endemic in the sense that it is across a range of workplaces. We

hear from a woman in the city who was told to sit on her bosses lap

and she once Christmas bonus and a woman in a video store that says

when she grows up the ladder to get stock, her boss spanks her and a

woman standing at a Christmas party surrounded by colleagues when her

boss grabbed her breasts and everybody laughed, making her feel

it was normal. A woman who said she was in her first ever surgery as a

medical student, so excited, and the senior male surgeon made sexual

innuendos about throughout the surgery. What was going to change?

If men continue to do this, is it the mothers and sons, the way we

bring up our sons? What will change? There are a couple of things. Bosses

have to take responsibility and lots of them do. We have lots of good

agreements with employers who have positive policies for respect at

work, including cracking down on sexual harassment and making it

clear. Most women want to stop but they would rather it never happened

in the first place so if you can prevent this with a strong policy

and training and back that up, that is good. Secondly, ultimately, women

have got to know that they have rights. This is against the law. And

they can force those rights. We are asking for the government to scrap

the employment Tribunal fees. If you are experiencing sexual harassment

and if you do take an employment tribunal claim, at the moment you

have to fork out over ?1000. And even professional women would think

twice about finding the kind of money. But it means that women --

millions of women are priced out of justice so it is important that the

government scraps as the so that women can get the protection and

rights they should be entitled to. Have you experienced sexual

harassment at work? I have in the past, like most women. Over half of

women experience that. What happened? Like any woman, in fact,

in many ways, it was a more common form of sexual harassment. There can

be an appropriate attempts to touch but also a series of comments that

might be other sexual nature but I think it is a power game. It is

about making women feel small and embarrassed. Where do you stand? On

this, just banter, issue? We have been told this from years. -- for

years. But if the woman you are saying this to looks upset or

distressed or embarrassed or frightened, then that joke probably

isn't very funny. If it happened to you at work, what would you do right

now compared to five years ago? It would not happen to me because I set

up my own magazine so I didn't have to be put into these situations. But

in any environment. I would stand up to whoever said it. I am older and

feel more confident and I feel it is important to tell people when you

feel uncomfortable. Otherwise they don't always know, those trustees

were joking, they were not being malicious, it was inappropriate and

a misguided comment. And perhaps if I had said that his inappropriate,

or even if I said at a light-hearted way, and turned it around, just

reacted in some way rather than being silent, I think it would have

made them think twice about doing that again to somebody else and I

would not want another girl to take that role that I was in and be

treated in the same way. Thank you very much. Francis, can I ask about

the current Labour leadership contest? Owen Smith or Jeremy

Corbyn? I am a woman who represents millions of working people who want

to see a very strong and robust opposition in parliament and I think

all Democrats should want that. Mr Smith or misty Corbyn? The TUC is

affiliated to the Labour Party. But your own views? I am here to

represent working people and what many people want is a government in

power that stands up for working people. Thank you all very much for

coming onto the programme. Your experiences are very welcome in

terms of sexual harassment at work. Another text, a restaurant waitress

who was asked by her boss to dress as a bunny girl to serve food at his

party. I worried about losing my job as I was refusing that request. And

lives on Facebook, I was sexually harassed at work and a first hand

they said it was in my head and was told you are female and a male

environment, accept it. Really depressing... Right...

The first of the rowing finals gets underway later

Britain's really good at rowing as you probably know.

The Team GB rowing team are hoping they'll bring in between 6

and 8 Olympic medals, with the first of the finals

the men's quadruple scull today at 20 past 2 UK time this afternoon.

The team just missed the medals in last year's World Championships,

You probably know that rowing was suspended because of high winds

and choppy water on Sunday after competitors capsized.

Great Britain's Katherine Grainger said it was the worst Olympic rowing

Let's talk to retired Olympic rower Cath Bishop and over Skype

from Leander Rowing Club in Berkshire is the man who ran

Eton Dorney, the rowing venue during the London Olympics,

Welcome, both of you. Ivor, I think the Brazilian rowing Federation did

call you for advice heading into the Olympics. What did you tell them?

That was very early on, pretty much in 2013, when there was still some

time to go before getting it together. I have not been in touch

since 2013. What was your advice? Because you are an expert. It was

very much... They did not really know where to start. However, as

happened with London 2012, there was a lot of help from the IOC and the

international governing body for the sport. They were going to be brought

up to speed. Then more technical but said they were concerned about, we

had 35,000 spectators on South at Eden Dorney and it was very much,

however can be cooked with those numbers? A chilly, looking at the

grandstands and there are unfortunately some empty seats, I'm

not sure how many can pick up with. I don't think they are under any of

the pressure that 2012 was under to deliver the number of spectators we

knew would be coming. They sing you don't envy trying to row in those

conditions? -- I assume. It is not ideal. But we are an outdoor sport

and we know it is possible and our coaches meccas collide in all sorts

of other because it could be like this on the Olympic final and you to

cope. Nobody wants those conditions but in the same time we row in a

country with lots of wind in the winter and our crews are close to

sinking in March. It is an aspect of the sport but you don't want to go

so far that you have people capsizing. They did the right thing

by suspending on Sunday? Absolutely, there are quite a few rowing courses

that have issues with wind, even Eden Dorney. It is about making sure

that the international federation knows where to draw the line. When

it stops being fair or safe, we need to change the schedule to wait for

the time to be right. Eden Dorney is man-made, isn't it? The venue in Rio

is natural. That must make a difference? It does. Man-made cause,

you can limit the expanse of water. And looking in Rio, the biggest

problem was such an expanse of water either side of the racing lanes,

when the wind blows across the course, it picks up the water and it

has a dramatic effect we could see on Saturday. On a narrower course,

particularly man-made, they are made 150 metres wide, or thereabouts, and

you can contain the damage limitation, should the wind be

blowing but clearly the lagoons in the open lake, they will be subject

to wind and building up of water and seeing the whitecaps you could see

on Saturday. It is close to the sea, that does suggest it could get like

that. What about the hopes, we have the men's final in the quadruple

sculls, and we have various semifinals, women and men. 6-8

medals, realistic? That were set because we have looked at the world

championship performances over the last few years so it is achievable.

For the quadruple quadrsculls, that is a big ask, they had one of the

crew members, Graeme Thomas, go home early with the virus. They have a

substitute in the boat. This is a huge ask that they are in the final,

six crews, 50% will wind the medal, their capacity and capability, the

athletes in that, means they can do it but it is a tall order today. And

what about Helen Glover and Helen Starling? Would you expect them to

get into the final? Absolutely, unbeaten since 2012. One of the

flagship crews. They have been so dominant. They had a scare in the

heat? In a way, the fact they came through, they still want that. They

will be analysing that and they have a chance to get themselves back on

track in the semifinal. We expect them to come up with a really

strong, dominant performance. And Katherine Grainger? What will she

do? What an incredible athlete. And for Olympic medals and who would bet

against another? Really tough lead up to the Olympics, it has not gone

smoothly but that is real life. Behind-the-scenes things don't often

go smoothly. Great performance yesterday and that will give them

huge confidence. They have the capacity. It is an event without one

dominant crew, it is not like there is Michael Phillips -- Michael

Phelps in there, they have to build on what they did yesterday. They

will have to bring out their absolute best performance. If they

do, she will be on the podium. Watching it in Rio, it looks very

exciting. But in December in the cold and wet, probably less so!

Thank you very much. Thank you for your time as well.

More misery on the railways for passengers - seven days

of strike action on the cross-Channel Eurostar

weekend adds more journey uncertainty.

And with the English Premier League kicking off this weekend, we'll talk

to two of Leicester City's mot ardent supporters about their hopes

The cross-Channel Eurostar service is to be hit by seven

days of strike action, starting this coming weekend.

But Eurostar says it will still be able to provide what it calls

The stoppage by the RMT staff runs from Friday to Monday,

and there'll be a further three days of action over the Bank holiday

The RMT dispute centres over rosters and work-life balance.

We've been seeking an agreement with Eurostar

for nearly ten years now

on work-life balance, which is about rostering

the unsociable hours and shift work that our trained managers take part

That agreement has not been forthcoming and we are now

forced to take action, because the company has

ignored our demands and our point of view, and has implemented

a timetable and a set of rosters that are unacceptable

We're seeking an agreement with the company, and there

is still time in the next few days to get such an agreement.

The company knows exactly what needs to be done to settle this dispute.

If they come to us with some reasonable proposals,

But otherwise, we'll be forced to take the action

The RMT Union has said it's prepared to suspend a five-day strike

by Southern Rail staff - tomorrow and on Friday -

if the company agrees to urgent talks without pre-conditions.

Rail passengers have been suffering severe disruption

because of the strike over the role of conductors.

Southern says it's not prepared to talk to the union,

unless it is willing to discuss its reform plans.

Passengers have suffered severe disruption because of the strike

Hospital managers are considering shutting an Accident and Emergency

department at night, because of a severe

United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust has said it may cut

opening hours at Grantham and District Hospital in order

The mother of a man murdered by a paranoid schizophrenic has told this

programme she does not blame the man who killed her son but says the

system is at fault. Maureen says her son's Williams death may have been

prevented if more care had been given to people who suffer from

serious mental problems. I do not blame the Arnold, I blame the system

that allowed it to happen. Because if the system had been a bit more

generously supported, it may not have happened. They found him down

alleyways starving cats and dogs with a knife, for goodness sake. And

he was actually on bail for some sort of violent crime, I think it

was threatening somebody with a knife or something. And then the

police lost him in the system somehow. They are doing an

investigation into it, Greater Manchester Police, but... That

doesn't solve the problem really. Why, how did they lose him? A

dangerous schizophrenic with a history of violence. They put him

out on the street and then nobody was checking on him.

The TUC says employers should take urgent action after a survey found a

number of women claimed they had been sexually harassed at work.

Victims said they did not tell their managers because they were

frightened it would affect their careers.

Join me for BBC Newsroom live at 11 o'clock.

This is Victoria. Thank you, this is strong with the

sport. If you went to bed last night after Great Britain missed out on

medals in gymnastics and the diving, it came good in the swimming pool in

the early hours. Siobhan-Marie O'Connor winning silver in the

women's 200m individual medley, setting a new British record. Just

three tenths of a second from claiming Gold. That was not the only

success. More came in the men's freestyle relay. The team with

Stephen Milne, Duncan Scott, Dan Wallace and James Guy... And it was

anchored by James Guy on the last leg, claiming silver, finishing

behind the USA. Especially sweet for James Guy who missed out on a Bronze

in the individual event. And another astonishing night for the world's

greatest Olympian, Michael Phelps, winning his 20th and 21st Gold

medals of his incredible career, anchoring home the last leg in the

relay. Having also taken Gold in the men's 200m butterfly. Incredible

Olympian and standout performance the game from him. That wraps up the

Olympics. Big success last night once again for Team GB.

Thank you. Welcome to the programme. You might have heard the term

'eating is cheating' when it comes to a night out,

but what about 'drunkorexia'? It's being used to describe people

who skip food to save on calories Research suggests almost half

of young people may have done it. A survey of 3,000 people found that

40% of people age 18-34 admit they cut down their calorie intake

so they can drink more booze. With us to chat about this

is Alice Pitt, who's a 24 year old, who frequently eats

less to save up calories Dr John Giles is the Medical

Director at a private health care provider, Benenden Health,

who carried out the research. She's 28 and used to drink

without eating, but stopped Tell me about your routine with a

big night out. That does not happen everyday. It is definitely something

I have done quite often. You know you are going out that evening and

you think you will go out for drinks and spend time getting ready. You

might just have a big lunch knowing that is your main meal. And then you

have something small in the afternoon, evening because you start

drinking. And the thought process is what? Why is that a good idea?

Sometimes in a shallow way, wearing a dress or something high waisted

and you want... When you are drinking, you spend your entire

evening drinking, you do bloat. And you fill up with food and you get

lethargic and sleepy. So you do have your drinks and skip food because

the drinking makes use fall. Hayley, what is your experience? I did it at

university. At the time, it was almost the social norm. And it was

never a conscious decision. I would never go through the day planning

what I was eating. So I would skip a meal and go out. It was a case of,

well, I want to save money the night or I want to look good. I want to

get drunk quicker. So I am not going to eat. And at university, in this

situation I was in, everybody is going out and so much is going on,

you start drinking earlier and you do not have time. It is not

something I did on a regular basis at all. It was just something that

happened to occur as the day progressed. Doctor Giles, the Word

drunkorexia, how would you define that, what does it mean? This refers

to people who have perhaps skipped meals in order to have drink, or

drinking alcohol rather than eating. There are lots of reasons why people

do it. The research we have done at Benenden Health is to gauge the

public's attitudes to help engage with the public to understand why

the public behave in the way they do. And try and understand how the

public think about health and weight being. In terms of how they look

after themselves and also, how we address the funding gap looming in

health care in this country. What is the impact on somebody's health if

they skip meals for whatever reason, they have no time, they are excited

and getting ready. They do not want to be bloated, they want to look

flat, what is the impact on somebody's health if they go out and

get drunk without eating? On the odd occasion, it does not make much

difference. It is a problem if it is chronic and ongoing. People

consistently drinking alcohol on an empty stomach will be at risk of

gastric ulcers -- ulcers, it indigestion. Alcohol is part of a

well-balanced diet -- alcohol as part of a well-balanced diet has a

place. We have guidance we encourage people to follow. Long term, people

run the risk of certain types of cancer, vitamin deficiencies,

malnutrition, osteoporosis. If people drink excessively without

food, you will get more rapid intoxication. That means people's

tolerance, they might be more susceptible to the side-effects of

intoxication. Falling, violence, the other downside is that go with that.

Alice, you know all that! And Hayley. You do not think about those

things, do you? Eating is cheating, people just say it. They do not

really think about it. It is, eating is cheating! You do not think about

it. I agree, it is time as well. Suddenly, everything is happening

and you just... You do not think. And when you think you get drunk

quicker and you save money... Do have taken aback at end of the

night? Definitely do. Or you have something unhealthy at home. There

is nothing in the cupboard so you have turned mushy peace on toast. I

feel more unhealthy if I drink in the evening and have unhealthy food

at the end of the night. You will be bloated. And the hangover is worse.

If I have a dirty meal at the end of the night, I feel worse. I suggest

to you that broadly, people will not take drunkorexia seriously. Because

it is a phase, it is something you do. You grow up... I don't like the

term drunkorexia. Just because it denotes it is at the soda and it

takes away from eating disorders like bulimia and anorexia -- it is a

disorder. It is a lifestyle choice or most, a conscious decision. When

I was at you are invincible. You are young and stupid. For me as I have

grown up, I am a lot more health-conscious and I have

developed. I still look at calorie intakes and what I am eating, but it

is a lot healthier and a lot more sensible. It is important for people

to accept there are consequences to their actions. Everybody wants to be

in charge of their own lives but every decision we make has a

consequence for ourselves and others. We have to try and raise

awareness and make people realise if they make bad decisions, somebody

somewhere has to pick up the pieces. That sounds really apocalyptic!

Sometimes, as they have said, you just do not eat and you go out and

have a good night and you feel a bit rubbish at the end of the day, is

that the end of the world? I am not justifying it, it is so normal. Many

people. That is the problem, a lot of the research at Benenden Health,

there is a disconnect between myself choices and the impact they may have

on them in the future. People assume somebody else will pick up the bill

for it -- lifestyle choices. There is no personal responsibility and

accountability. They are too detached from the consequences of

their actions and do not think it is their problem. That is a big

generalisation, isn't it? It is and it pervades through a lot of the

previous reports we have looked at. Do you take responsibility for

yourself and what happens on a night out? I think so. I am a very normal

24-year-old. I understand everything is in moderation. I know the

consequences and I do take responsibility. Especially living in

London, you need to take responsibility. It can be quite

dangerous, getting a taxi home intoxicated and stuff. And I have a

cracking group and we look after each other. We take responsibility

for each other. So if you plan and you are not a complete fool, you are

all right. As long as you are responsible. I do not think it is a

coincidence the majority of people who do it, they are female. There

are so many links between how you look and the pressure of it and

going out. And in the age of Instagram. When I was at university,

there was no Instagram. Instagram and these comments coming out and

the fear of missing out, people want to live their best online social

lives. And these are the decisions people are being forced into almost

as a lifestyle choice. Yes, I agree. Thank you.

The cross-Channel Eurostar service is to be hit by seven

days of strike action, starting this coming weekend.

The action is being taken by train managers who belong to the RMT

Union, in a dispute over rosters and work-life balance.

But Eurostar says it will still be able to provide what it calls

a "good service" to customers, by making small changes

It's the third dispute to break out on the railways.

Southern Railway workers are on strike this week,

and the union has also announced there's been a vote

in favour of strike action on Virgin Trains East Coast.

Telus more about that dispute in more specific terms. Let us look at

what it means for passengers, you touched on that, seven days of

strike action spread over two begins, the first strike action

begins this Friday, running through the weekend and until Monday and

again we have another three days of strike action at the end of this

month running across the bank holiday. What impact will it have?

And different slant is being put by both sides, the union says it will

have very severe disruption but the company takes a different view. They

are drawing up this fresh timetable and they say that anyone who has a